when you have 5 all star caliber players like the celtics you are a superteam at that point so no that doesn’t apply, and who else besides luka and kyrie is “Elite” on the mavs??? Worst take i’ve seen in the comments 😂😂😂
@@skeetskeet9433 I think he meant elite role players not elite players. I wouldn’t call PJ & Lively elite roll players, but they’re really good role players. Problem is Boston has 3 fringe all stars & 3 elite role players lol. I started religiously watching NBA in 2010, and this Boston team is probably the 2nd best team I’ve seen behind the KD warriors. When your 4th and 5th options are Jrue Holiday & Derrick White, you can get away with not having a superstar. Celtics don’t have a superstar as imo Tatum & Brown aren’t top 5 guys, but they have no weak link in the starting 5 or really the top 6 with Horford off the bench. Mavs could win a title if they got matched up with a normal eastern champ but not against Boston. Mavs would’ve beat the Heat team last year, prolly beat the 2022 Celtics, maybe the 2021 bucks although they were really good too, point is Mavs have a championship roster but so did the rockets in 2018, but when you run into a buzz saw like the 24 Celtics you’re not winning it all lmao
Because when u need him he misses , his playoff efficiency%. For the bucks was really bad. Even the year they won. Celtics had an easy road . If philly or bucks were healthy while everyone else hurt I’d expect them to be in the final.
Well after butler averaged about 36.5-37 on him last season as a bucks fan it’s quite hard for me to say he’s the best defensive guard in the league. Watched butler back him down and get fouls and floaters all day long. He’s an elite defensive guard, however I believe his sole 1 on 1 capabilities are a bit overstated honestly. With that being said, he likely does have the best defensive instincts in the entire NBA as he’s won multiple games through defense which is just insanely impressive
@@lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788he’s an elite defensive GUARD like you said. He defends GUARDS the best because of his defensive instincts and his size and presence. Against a forward like jimmy,that’s a baby. I’m not a bucks fan but I was rooting for them that year, it made me sick and the coach made no adjustment. He just let jimmy BUST HIS ASS one on one like it hasn’t happened in lever a decade in a playoffs no series. Your guy is getting murdered but coach just watching him continue to get murdered…lol
@@youngerudit2524 I believe the coach would’ve had giannis guard him if giannis was healthy. He locked Jimmy up to under 15 ppg and caused multiple turnovers while guarding Jimmy in 2021.
And the warriors big 3 wasn’t just " a big 3" like the suns. The warriors was AN ELITE 70 wins TEAM top to bottom with an elite bench. And to get him, they lost…Harrisson barn. Literally replaced him with kd. So they lost absolutely nothing and gained everything.
That definitely is. Him saying the bucks is a big 3 is whacky though, I don't think either Middleton or Jrue quite qualify. If they do then I guess Boston has a big 4 this year.....
A big three is three superstar players on the same team. Three players who are faces of a franchise( or at least those caliber of players) that team up are big threes. Curry and Durant would qualify but klay does not, he would be considered an elite role player
@@GODEXAULTS lmao Klay an elite role player? He was way better than that at his peak and would easily score 25 ppg+ as the primary scorer on a team while playing great defense. That's like calling scottie Pippen an elite role player
The Cavs were definitely a big 3! People forget the numbers K-Love put in Minnesota, and yes I know he didn’t win much, but he was putting AD type numbers without the defense tho.
@@rodriguezjesse274032 Of course when people get together they don’t average the same numbers. Less shots less points and assists. Kevin Love was considered better than Blake Griffin and everyone saw Blake Griffin as an Allstar.
@@BabylonGateLA k love put those up on garbageee teams… putting up good stats in winning basketball is different then Putting up stats down 20 all season
@@BerkinMusa But numbers don’t lie! K Love was putting 25 points and 14 rebounds. Nobody was doing that, not Blake Griffin, not Lamarcus Aldridge who were considered Allstar. I know the Wolves were not winning, but look at his supporting cast. The Cavs traded a lot for Kevin Love. That means he had pretty good value back then. I’m not saying he was a top 10 player, but to say they were not a big 3, then the Miami Heat wasn’t a big 3 with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh! Bosh was doing nothing in Toronto but putting up numbers. Same for the Boston big 3 since Ray Allen was just putting numbers in Seattle!
@@BerkinMusathat’s not true at all. K Love was considered a super star. The exact thing that happened to Bosh when he joined the Heat is what happened to K Love
@@user-oz5dz5lf3g but thts kinda the point. for a big 3 to work each has to be a superstar to compensate the loss in quality of the bench. beal isnt a superstar. booker is definitely a star but theres still question marks if hes an A grade superstar.
If you want a better team then two superstars is the way to go especially with the new cap rule. Having 3 superstars means your cap flexibility is extremely limited.
nah the warriors for sure. Curry KD Klay can’t be ignored. klay might not be the same guy now but he was him. not to mention they had draymond and later got Demarcus Cousins. that team was wild without injuries.
@MickeyMo600 u gota add draymond if u gona add kevin love, draymond runs the whole offense k love had a minimize role since he had to change his whole game
2 stars + role players is the move. Too many stars trying to eat usually never works unless everyone is bought in. The third in a big 3 will always experience fall off.
The issue with Big 3s is that you need to trade a lot of assets to get the players so your depth is paper-thin as a result. Reason Warriors were the last Big 3 to win is cuz they drafted those guys, they never had to give up nobody for them.
Jrue is about to win another Championship. He has been the best defending guard for most of his career and he can get buckets. He can be considered 1 of the big 3 to me.
You need both. All championship level teams have 2 clear guys and another guy that can be on that level on any given night, plus complementary guys that can do a lot of things at near star level. They’re “stars in their roles.” The building of championship teams hasn’t really changed ever
The 2019 off season was such a great event for the NBA. Superstars were pairing up which created a parity that still affects today. Hell the West was crazy as hell this year. It was so fun to watch games at the end of the year knowing the players are playing to win kuz it matters. Also shout out to the play in.. that’s been cooking since jts introduction
And it’s really to be specific 2 stars 1 scoring option outside of them and defensive role players if you have guards get more bigs if you have all star bigs get defensive guards
The big 3 archetype only worked if you could build it through FA or the draft. It has never worked through trades. Therefore, having elite role players and a deep bench was ALWAYS necessary. If you could build any of those big 3 teams that won right now, they'd still win.
Bucks wasn’t a big 3 and not only that but they needed just about every team they played to be injured… they probably beat 1 healthy team in that title run
Cleveland with Love was definitely a big 3 But that unit won as a TEAM. Thompson, Shump, Smith, Delly Boy, etc… and Golden State still gave em problems
Jrue showed up in Game 2 of the Finals, scored 26 points, 11 rebounds, and locked Kyrie's little ass up. Thanks Milwaukee for wanting Dame so bad that Holiday just fell in our laps. Go Celtics!!
I felt like the only person BEGGING Brooklyn not to trade for Harden a few years ago. I loved how balanced that team was without him. It doesn’t matter how great he is. You can’t trade your core away for one player and that mf only plays half the court. And then the only half he’s good at is nerfed because he’s standing next to 2 walking buckets. That ish was never going to work.
A big 3 should be defined as 3 max level players. They don’t necessarily all have to be making the max at the same time, but should be at that level talent/stature wise. Therefore it’s the league which has killed the big 3 with their luxury cap tax system. It makes extremely difficult for teams to fill out a good roster around 3 max players. That’s what we’re seeing with the Suns.
It's not the Suns that destroyed the "Big 3" builds. It's the new salary cap penalty that comes into effect next year. Not many people are gonna want to be way over the salary cap with how expensive the luxery tax is going to be starting next year. This is (hopefully) a big win for small markets. The only thing I'm afraid of is the Lakers looking at this as an (expensive) opportunity. I'm afraid the Lakers might go way over the Luxery tax just because they can and no one else except maybe the Knicks could possibly match them.
The big 3 can actually work, the issue is how the big 3 are constructed.. most of the big 3 that failed are most times all offensive players with little or mid or no denfense.
porzingis, tatum, brown and even jrue if u want to add him in Edit: the finals was the big three against a elite duo with role players the big three won
The media has convinced people that names equal game. And if you don't have a big name, that means you don't had be a big game. Jrue holiday sacrificed what he could have done anywhere else, so that they could win a chip. Kris Middleton was LITERALLY their closer for YEARS. And Giannis was just all out great. I'm convinced the media is ONLY for novice basketball guys who don't really understand basketball
@@papapear3540that big NETs team with Kai, KD and harden at the time was extremely unhealthy. Harden wasn't fit at the time. Kyrie with all the issues his facing at the time. KD with the burden of proving that he doesn't need GS and putting the team on his back at time because of serious injuries with Kai and harden. They both got injured indefinitely stopping them from playing the whole season. Plus they didn't have a main Coach or assistant. Their bench wasn't good either and yet they made it the playoffs and almost won against a more so healthy and younger bucks team at the time. That team would have rings if most or all things pan out for them in the end which it didn't. Which is why it failed.
It is completely unrelated to the video. If the main reason that pot of greed is banned is because there are no drawbacks and everyone would use it, how come cards like ash are unlimited.
It was the heat. Idk why they glossed over that. Klay was a roleplayer compared to Steph and KD. He could never be a first option which is what big 3 means. Chris Bosh was the man in Toronto. DWade was the man in Cleveland. DWade was the man in Miami
Pat, please come back to the Timberwolves this offseason. I know the fit isnt great next to Mike, but we need a lockdown defensive guard. We might not be able to give you more than the Vet's min. But maybe, just maybe, we can get you some hardware.
Two superstars and good role players would bring some people who stopped watching back to the tv screen. Good competition beat glits and glamour of a superteam. When NBC gets it back i know they're going to add grit back to the game. Different networks have different philosophies on how they want to market the league when its on their stations.
Middleton, no. He’s An amazing player and did a lot for that team and is nasty. Maybe deserves more recognition but to say “Big 3” nah. Giannis and Jrue. straight up
According to me, big 3 is when 3 elite level players are on same team with none or 1(maybe 2) being drafted by the same team. Tbh, every big 3 excluding the Miami Heat has failed. Heat and Spo should be given props because nowadays big 3 is a recipe of disaster. Simply look at Suns.
The thing about that Miami big three is it didn't just have 3 all-star level players. It had 3 all NBA level players and 2 of them were first team all NBA.
2 superstar and a deep bench with elite role players is definitely the way to go I mean look at the Mavs right now.
Fr that’s what I was thinking
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But 1 of the superstars need to be a top 7-8 player and the other one top 10-18ish, otherwise you got no shot with the 13th and 20th best players.
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And the Celtics , 2 elite players and lockdown defenders good role players d white , holiday , horford ( can’t wait for porzingis to get back )
2 superstars and elite players, basically the 2 teams left in 2024 nba finals
when you have 5 all star caliber players like the celtics you are a superteam at that point so no that doesn’t apply, and who else besides luka and kyrie is “Elite” on the mavs??? Worst take i’ve seen in the comments 😂😂😂
Mavs 2 superstars and scrubs, Celtics 5 all star
@@skeetskeet9433 I think he meant elite role players not elite players. I wouldn’t call PJ & Lively elite roll players, but they’re really good role players. Problem is Boston has 3 fringe all stars & 3 elite role players lol. I started religiously watching NBA in 2010, and this Boston team is probably the 2nd best team I’ve seen behind the KD warriors. When your 4th and 5th options are Jrue Holiday & Derrick White, you can get away with not having a superstar. Celtics don’t have a superstar as imo Tatum & Brown aren’t top 5 guys, but they have no weak link in the starting 5 or really the top 6 with Horford off the bench. Mavs could win a title if they got matched up with a normal eastern champ but not against Boston. Mavs would’ve beat the Heat team last year, prolly beat the 2022 Celtics, maybe the 2021 bucks although they were really good too, point is Mavs have a championship roster but so did the rockets in 2018, but when you run into a buzz saw like the 24 Celtics you’re not winning it all lmao
The Celtics has 3 players averaging 20 and over. They have 2 superstars and a star. Thats why they were the best team in the league by far this year.
the celtics are a big 5
If Rone had of said "its just big ME" i would have cracked up 😂
Yeah but he’s not a complete dork so he didn’t. Thank god
my brain was waiting for him to say that now im sad
Cringe
I thought he was bout to say that too 😂
Holiday just lead Boston in scoring and his D is absolutely the best in the league! Yes, that Milwaukee team was a big 3!😂
Love seeing Pat Bev talkin highly about Jrue. That man was a defensive monster, and Pat himself ain’t no slouch on D.
EXACTLY.. he slept on
Ayo! Pause 😂 No Diddy 😅
@@Inazuma163I was finna defend dude until I seen the adjective before the D 😂
Dray moooond
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why does jrue get sold as much as he does? the way he plays defense needs to be respected more because defense is fucking hard
Because when u need him he misses , his playoff efficiency%. For the bucks was really bad. Even the year they won.
Celtics had an easy road .
If philly or bucks were healthy while everyone else hurt I’d expect them to be in the final.
Well after butler averaged about 36.5-37 on him last season as a bucks fan it’s quite hard for me to say he’s the best defensive guard in the league. Watched butler back him down and get fouls and floaters all day long. He’s an elite defensive guard, however I believe his sole 1 on 1 capabilities are a bit overstated honestly. With that being said, he likely does have the best defensive instincts in the entire NBA as he’s won multiple games through defense which is just insanely impressive
@@lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788he’s an elite defensive GUARD like you said. He defends GUARDS the best because of his defensive instincts and his size and presence. Against a forward like jimmy,that’s a baby. I’m not a bucks fan but I was rooting for them that year, it made me sick and the coach made no adjustment. He just let jimmy BUST HIS ASS one on one like it hasn’t happened in lever a decade in a playoffs no series. Your guy is getting murdered but coach just watching him continue to get murdered…lol
@@youngerudit2524 I believe the coach would’ve had giannis guard him if giannis was healthy. He locked Jimmy up to under 15 ppg and caused multiple turnovers while guarding Jimmy in 2021.
he’s not on the level of someone like Chris Bosh or Klay Thompson. He’s an elite defender and a winner but he’s not that caliber of player
Big 3 hasn’t worked since Warriors with KD having dudes that know there roles and having a star wins it mostly
And the warriors big 3 wasn’t just " a big 3" like the suns. The warriors was AN ELITE 70 wins TEAM top to bottom with an elite bench. And to get him, they lost…Harrisson barn. Literally replaced him with kd. So they lost absolutely nothing and gained everything.
They weren't the BIG 3 they just had good shooters and helped spread the floor.
Nets just got hurt
@@youngerudit2524l8 but u legit watch ball like bro even Livingston was getting to it it wasn’t like just the starters was good
@pabros7314 You saying KD warriors weren't big 3?
Jrue holiday disperespect is through the roof
KD Klay and Steph idk how that’s not a big 3 in this scenario.
That definitely is. Him saying the bucks is a big 3 is whacky though, I don't think either Middleton or Jrue quite qualify. If they do then I guess Boston has a big 4 this year.....
A big three is three superstar players on the same team. Three players who are faces of a franchise( or at least those caliber of players) that team up are big threes. Curry and Durant would qualify but klay does not, he would be considered an elite role player
It’s a big 3 but it’s the exception to the rule. Because that’s literally the greatest team ever.
@@GODEXAULTS lmao Klay an elite role player? He was way better than that at his peak and would easily score 25 ppg+ as the primary scorer on a team while playing great defense. That's like calling scottie Pippen an elite role player
@@DanielDurham121Nah, Curry and KD are just too good together. Klay and Dray are role players. Curry and KD are the superstars.
Dang Pat called Jrue the best defensive guard the last decade. That’s respect, i thought it was you playboy
He is just hating on dame.
@@faatax1wtf that gotta do with what he said about Jrue lmao
@@TanNguyen510I would think this guy believes dame #1. That's why.
@@faatax1 dame is ass tho
@@MickeyMo600Defensive guard? Hell nah
The Cavs were definitely a big 3! People forget the numbers K-Love put in Minnesota, and yes I know he didn’t win much, but he was putting AD type numbers without the defense tho.
That was in Minnesota though not Cleveland so I wouldn't categorize them as a big 3, but to each their own
@@rodriguezjesse274032 Of course when people get together they don’t average the same numbers. Less shots less points and assists. Kevin Love was considered better than Blake Griffin and everyone saw Blake Griffin as an Allstar.
@@BabylonGateLA k love put those up on garbageee teams… putting up good stats in winning basketball is different then Putting up stats down 20 all season
@@BerkinMusa But numbers don’t lie! K Love was putting 25 points and 14 rebounds. Nobody was doing that, not Blake Griffin, not Lamarcus Aldridge who were considered Allstar. I know the Wolves were not winning, but look at his supporting cast. The Cavs traded a lot for Kevin Love. That means he had pretty good value back then. I’m not saying he was a top 10 player, but to say they were not a big 3, then the Miami Heat wasn’t a big 3 with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh! Bosh was doing nothing in Toronto but putting up numbers. Same for the Boston big 3 since Ray Allen was just putting numbers in Seattle!
@@BerkinMusathat’s not true at all. K Love was considered a super star. The exact thing that happened to Bosh when he joined the Heat is what happened to K Love
Pat bugging…boy KLove was an all star until he had to be just a shooter, solid defensive player and excellent passer. Just had less shine in Cleveland
Most definitely. I feel like people have a hard time now remembering how good some of the players on those cavs teams were
@@jjones6244especially Jr smith /Kevin love
Na man was putting up 0 point games in the finals… putting up stats on loosing teams is easier then doing it winning
K love was doo doo in Cleveland be serious
@@jjones6244like who
The suns big 3 showed that you can’t just put any 3 greats together. The team has to fit around them or they’ll fail spectacularly
to be fair, besides kd who is arguably a bit past it, the other 2 arent really superstars.
@@eddyededwin just because they weren't as great as we hoped don't mean they ain't I mean I get Beal but dbook is definitely
@@user-oz5dz5lf3g but thts kinda the point. for a big 3 to work each has to be a superstar to compensate the loss in quality of the bench. beal isnt a superstar. booker is definitely a star but theres still question marks if hes an A grade superstar.
@@eddyededwinI mean does any average Joe have the 70+ point ability.
@@MickeyMo600 so Donovan Mitchell is a A grade number 1 option on a championship team?
Jrue underrated af
Steph, klay, and Kd. The big 3
Curry and KD** Klay is not a superstar.
@IamNotTrey u trippen bra, Klay is definitely a superstar and sharp shooter, u trippen fr
More like a big 4 tbh
If you want a better team then two superstars is the way to go especially with the new cap rule. Having 3 superstars means your cap flexibility is extremely limited.
Denver - with an unselfish superstar + bordeline all star and great role players + good bench players
It really depends because before , big 3s were mainly guard ,foward & Bigs .. now mfs don’t care it be 3 guards that don’t compliment each other
The Last Big 3 were the Heat.
nah the warriors for sure. Curry KD Klay can’t be ignored. klay might not be the same guy now but he was him. not to mention they had draymond and later got Demarcus Cousins. that team was wild without injuries.
@elicynical Yeah, Heat-Cavs-KDWarriors. If you count Draymond as a dog then add the original warriors there.
@MickeyMo600 u gota add draymond if u gona add kevin love, draymond runs the whole offense k love had a minimize role since he had to change his whole game
"Last" is key
The heat team at the time was actually a super team. People forget ray Allen was on that Miami heat team back then with bosh,Wade, and Bron.
2 stars + role players is the move. Too many stars trying to eat usually never works unless everyone is bought in. The third in a big 3 will always experience fall off.
He might be on to something with two stars and elite roll players.
The issue with Big 3s is that you need to trade a lot of assets to get the players so your depth is paper-thin as a result. Reason Warriors were the last Big 3 to win is cuz they drafted those guys, they never had to give up nobody for them.
I agree but it always use to be two stars and great role players that could start for other teams
i think the only way for a superstar trio to work is if atleast 2 of the 3 players can play elite defense
Jrue is about to win another Championship. He has been the best defending guard for most of his career and he can get buckets. He can be considered 1 of the big 3 to me.
Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett
Thank you. Just saw this comment while hate-scrolling.
You need both. All championship level teams have 2 clear guys and another guy that can be on that level on any given night, plus complementary guys that can do a lot of things at near star level. They’re “stars in their roles.” The building of championship teams hasn’t really changed ever
How Pat gonna say that bucks had a big 3 and not the cavs🧐🤔🧠
The NBA has always been. A all star level guard and a all star level forward to win chips. The only exception to the rule was the warriors.
The 2019 off season was such a great event for the NBA. Superstars were pairing up which created a parity that still affects today. Hell the West was crazy as hell this year. It was so fun to watch games at the end of the year knowing the players are playing to win kuz it matters. Also shout out to the play in.. that’s been cooking since jts introduction
To classify as a big 3 they have to either all be all stars or all team (offense or defense)
kudos to Bev for starting an argument, realizing he was wrong and then embracing the other point of view. This is how debated have to go
And it’s really to be specific 2 stars 1 scoring option outside of them and defensive role players if you have guards get more bigs if you have all star bigs get defensive guards
Thats how the budget cap works too. You cant realistically have 3 superstars and a solid bench.
The big 3 archetype only worked if you could build it through FA or the draft. It has never worked through trades. Therefore, having elite role players and a deep bench was ALWAYS necessary. If you could build any of those big 3 teams that won right now, they'd still win.
I thought a big 3 is when you have 3 first options on the same team? Could be drafted, signed or traded for
Knicks about to break that mold. I actually hope we sign Pat Bev
Bucks wasn’t a big 3 and not only that but they needed just about every team they played to be injured… they probably beat 1 healthy team in that title run
Cleveland with Love was definitely a big 3
But that unit won as a TEAM. Thompson, Shump, Smith, Delly Boy, etc… and Golden State still gave em problems
Man!
The disrespect of drew holiday is unbelievable. No one respects defense in this league, but it is literally the reason these teams win.
How come Boston was left out with the “Big Ticket, “The Truth”, & Ray Allen along with Playoff Rondo
ya the original big 3 and won in first year
Jrue showed up in Game 2 of the Finals, scored 26 points, 11 rebounds, and locked Kyrie's little ass up. Thanks Milwaukee for wanting Dame so bad that Holiday just fell in our laps. Go Celtics!!
Facts.. JT and JB, plus role players
Two star/superstars, and elite role player with size. Celtics-denver-timberwolves.
Jrue holiday is very underrated look at the impact he brought to the Celtics.
Jru holiday is definitely part of the big three in that bucks championship. Jru is an underrated superstar
he scouting for the next team he’s gonna help win a play in spot
I felt like the only person BEGGING Brooklyn not to trade for Harden a few years ago. I loved how balanced that team was without him. It doesn’t matter how great he is. You can’t trade your core away for one player and that mf only plays half the court. And then the only half he’s good at is nerfed because he’s standing next to 2 walking buckets. That ish was never going to work.
K love was a franchise player when he came to Cleveland
Pat has been the best defense guard for the past decade. Not holiday. 😊
Jrue is the Michael Jordan of Pat Bevs
You gotta have one guy that could be the MVP on his own team, 2 guys that could either be a 1st or 2nd team All-NBA if they were on their own
Give 70+ game AD and LeMagic 2 decent role players and watch this shit shake up please I’m begging 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A big 3 should be defined as 3 max level players. They don’t necessarily all have to be making the max at the same time, but should be at that level talent/stature wise.
Therefore it’s the league which has killed the big 3 with their luxury cap tax system. It makes extremely difficult for teams to fill out a good roster around 3 max players. That’s what we’re seeing with the Suns.
It has to be a big 3 that complements each other very well.
I would love a series like this. Great idea.
I mean the Sixers got Embid ,PG and Maxy now,we will see if that works out
Bron Kyrie and Love aren’t a big 3, but Giannis Jrue and Middleton are?! What?!
It's not the Suns that destroyed the "Big 3" builds. It's the new salary cap penalty that comes into effect next year. Not many people are gonna want to be way over the salary cap with how expensive the luxery tax is going to be starting next year. This is (hopefully) a big win for small markets. The only thing I'm afraid of is the Lakers looking at this as an (expensive) opportunity. I'm afraid the Lakers might go way over the Luxery tax just because they can and no one else except maybe the Knicks could possibly match them.
Brooklyn flunked two “big 3’s” so they technically they killed it twice 😂🤦🏽♂️👌🏽
Big three are 3 top 15 players on same team
Big 5 is the future. Celtics winning the chip this season will be testament to that.
Big 3 is three superstars. Jrue and Khris are stars but not big time stars.
The disrespect Jrue gets is craaaya!
Branson and Randle was the best duo in the Eastern nobody on the East was stopping Brunson and Randle before randle got hurt
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Love was 100% the 3rd star. Check his T Wolves era. He WAS a star. Still was in Cleveland.
The big 3 can actually work, the issue is how the big 3 are constructed.. most of the big 3 that failed are most times all offensive players with little or mid or no denfense.
Mavs didn't win because Kyrie would do well in some games and Luka would do well in others, but nobody else would pick up the slack on a regular basis
Jrue is an elite defender capable of scoring averaging 20ppg.
Jrue holiday is the most underrated player in the NBA
Lebron, Kyrie, and Kevin love was definitely a big three team
We done forgot what a big 3 is.
I think, great drafting and development is more important. You can fill out a roster wit good vets. Its all easier said than done of course
What about the 2008 Celtics with Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen!
porzingis, tatum, brown and even jrue if u want to add him in Edit: the finals was the big three against a elite duo with role players the big three won
The media has convinced people that names equal game. And if you don't have a big name, that means you don't had be a big game.
Jrue holiday sacrificed what he could have done anywhere else, so that they could win a chip. Kris Middleton was LITERALLY their closer for YEARS. And Giannis was just all out great. I'm convinced the media is ONLY for novice basketball guys who don't really understand basketball
Nowadays big 3 is a backup plan in case of the players is injured or is demotivated coz he smoked too much..
We finally getting back to regular bball
Jrue is literally better than Bradley Beal
Ion know what Pat think a big 3 is 😂😂😂😂
People already forgotten the KD,KYRIE AND HARDEN BIG 3 NETS 🤣🤣🤣
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They could've won if they actually played together at the same time consistently
@@artetaDagoat i highly doubt it if they up against healthy boston
@@papapear3540that big NETs team with Kai, KD and harden at the time was extremely unhealthy. Harden wasn't fit at the time. Kyrie with all the issues his facing at the time. KD with the burden of proving that he doesn't need GS and putting the team on his back at time because of serious injuries with Kai and harden. They both got injured indefinitely stopping them from playing the whole season. Plus they didn't have a main Coach or assistant. Their bench wasn't good either and yet they made it the playoffs and almost won against a more so healthy and younger bucks team at the time. That team would have rings if most or all things pan out for them in the end which it didn't. Which is why it failed.
We really got the best of both worlds here in the Bean
who would've thought that having 2 stars and 4 really good players is better than 3 stars and a bunch of bums
It is completely unrelated to the video. If the main reason that pot of greed is banned is because there are no drawbacks and everyone would use it, how come cards like ash are unlimited.
The disrespect to K.Love is crazy.
It was the heat. Idk why they glossed over that. Klay was a roleplayer compared to Steph and KD. He could never be a first option which is what big 3 means. Chris Bosh was the man in Toronto. DWade was the man in Cleveland. DWade was the man in Miami
“Big 3’s are dead”….Celtics literally have a Big 3 rn 😂🤦🏿
Pat, please come back to the Timberwolves this offseason. I know the fit isnt great next to Mike, but we need a lockdown defensive guard. We might not be able to give you more than the Vet's min. But maybe, just maybe, we can get you some hardware.
Love was definitely a SuperStar
And before anyone says otherwise, Bosh was a SuperStar too.
The disrespect is awful 🙂
I rather have a trio then 2 duo the problem with the suns is that they don’t got a point guard and they put a random team together
2 superstars and the rest great role players for that team. Im with Pat ill take that over a big 3
We just gonna act like KD, Steph, Klay and Dray weren’t a big 4??
Two superstars and good role players would bring some people who stopped watching back to the tv screen. Good competition beat glits and glamour of a superteam. When NBC gets it back i know they're going to add grit back to the game. Different networks have different philosophies on how they want to market the league when its on their stations.
The Lakers in 2020… 2 superstars and the bench MOB!!
Facts jrue definitely was there defense 💯 they needed him for a chip
Middleton, no. He’s An amazing player and did a lot for that team and is nasty. Maybe deserves more recognition but to say “Big 3” nah. Giannis and Jrue. straight up
Damn I ain’t seen this channel recommended since that ESPN fiasco
Nuggets had a big three last season in Jamal, Nikola, and Gordon.. and they won the ship
ship
All u need is 2 dope playaz...
Scottie and Jordan proved dat.
Horace Grant? Rodman?
Curry and KD
According to me, big 3 is when 3 elite level players are on same team with none or 1(maybe 2) being drafted by the same team.
Tbh, every big 3 excluding the Miami Heat has failed. Heat and Spo should be given props because nowadays big 3 is a recipe of disaster. Simply look at Suns.
MIA big three were all elite two-way players
Bucks? Khris and Giannis were with the bucks 11 seasons, then Jrue was elite
The thing about that Miami big three is it didn't just have 3 all-star level players. It had 3 all NBA level players and 2 of them were first team all NBA.