Shady is a flat out hypocrite. He knows that's bs. He played rb. If every single tackler dove at his knees to injure him on purpose or if they did the same to the QB he would be the first one yelling about how dirty the player was, isn't it the other teams job to win at all costs? Even at the expense of someone's career? That's what Shady is saying. Sports is not conducted this way. Taking his point at face value bounty gate was perfectly ok. Intentionally injuring players is perfectly alright. Shady's POV is garbage.
Wrong person, wrong position since there aren't many rules protecting the ball carrier or running-backs in general. There are most def tacklers and defensive players looking to put players out of commission. Plus he's on record saying the game is way too soft in regard to the qb (hence why he dismisses Acho's qb analogy in this video). Now do I agree with him yes and no. Was the play dirty and disrespectful, yes. Do you have to be prepped for dirty players or the potential of em in games, most def.
Bro I really was hoping Shady would keep it real and he did not smh he gave typical Ninja answer Andy Reid what have cut Winston next fking day Be real man lol
Shady talks nonsense and then Joy tries to justify his barely intelligible nonsense. It's becoming quite a boring shtick from them two, I would consider replacing them both. Bring back Dave and Rick
I don't know how that would take more than a single episode, lol. I'm going to assume you didn't see him before he was on his show. My man's professional!
Its not about going full to the last moment, its about going full in the victory formation. The next time a Mahomes takes a knee in a victory formation dont cry foul when defenders go take a shot at him! That is the future you want!Never change an unwritten gentelmens rule without thinking about the future!
I agree. Theyre opening the gates to defenders wrecking offensive players and them getting hurt then getting fined and called a dirty player. But if the offense does it its not dirty. Sure🙄
@@nathanhundley5347 That is on the SAINTS and their players no one else. Other 31 teams, for the most part, have class. May have to get NFL Sunday Ticket in 2024 just to watch Saints/Falcons next season.
@@byronsmith3152I mean James technically did ask him about it. “What if the DT come off the ball and rocks you while you chillin” I forgot what shady said to that but I know what ever he said he’s lying. He would be ready to fight and possibly talking about it in a post game interview about the DT being dirty
@@kylemorganmitchellii62 bro defensive players get to the quarterback when they know they’re coming that’s called a sack Now imagine if they think everyone is chilling, but somebody like Aaron Donald just decides to go full speed
@@EastSideRudeBoy injured and hurt are two completely different things 😂 do you think it would hurt if 350 pound lineman fired off of the ball when you kinda stood there with your guard down. Yes I’m sure it hurt but if you meant to ask if anyone was injured, which I think that’s what you were getting at the answer is no. Thankfully no one sustained any serious injuries but easily could have
This is my thought as well. What if the Bucs had lost so the Saints got into the playoffs, but somebody got hurt on this pointless play and their playoff run was hurt because of a pointless score.
@@rve420 that’s like saying “line up in a offense like men” when they do a fake punt or saying “throw the ball normal like men” on a slew flicker. Trick plays have been in the game since football was made.
The next time Jameis lines up in victory formation and gets smashed behind his head because a defender thinks he’s going to pull some gimmick like this. Pls come get Shady to go fight for him. My biggest issue is that he disrespected his coach, you don’t show your coach up like that.
If they lined up normally... the coach would of called a time out and put the backups in... they were trying to get the rb his only td of the season... knowing their season was over. If ppl think that's terrible then those are terrible ppl🤷🏾♂️😂🙏🏾 Kat Williams would of done the same thing🥴🥴🥴🤣☠️🤣☠️☠️🏃🏾♂️✌🏾🏈
@@haloiscool1235if you are relaxed and I ran into you in your back with all force I can break your back, your spine, give you whiplash. Whatever. The d front is not even trying. You could of rolled over they’re legs and ended somebody career. I feel like it’s a difference of disrespect and being down right dirty. Calling timeout with 1 sec left and going for it is disrespectful. Diving at me when game is technically over. If Jessie Bates shot a gap in that formation and boomed Jamies Jessie would be labeled “dirty asf” “no play in the league for that”. And Jamies would of complained too
I remember a few years ago the Bucs (I believe under Greg schiano) would try their hardest to force a fumble on victory formation and the football world went nuts saying it was bad and it’s time to give up in that situation. If you’re supposed to always be ready on victory formation then you can’t be mad when teams rush the qb out of that formation too
The only person to question the fact that the players didn’t listen to the coach when he told them to kneel, is Joy and not the former players on the set is pretty telling.
Exactly. People are too focused on the wrong angle. I can tell you as a Saints fan that it was a simple matter of the team trying to look out for Jamaal Williams, who had an TD incentive. It wasn’t so much they were trying to be disrespectful or dirty, they were trying to do right by their teammate. Besides, people can say what they want about Dennis Allen’s predecessor, but the team would’ve never went rogue on Sean Payton. That should tell anybody what they need to know about Dennis Allen’s “leadership”.
Winston should be cut. Even Dennis Allen said that it was completely disrespectful and wrong. McCoy saying everything is dirty is a perfect example of what young players should not be taught.
I see a lot of people not understanding/ignoring the point. And acho explained it well, nobody cares that the saints scored. It’s the way in which you scored. There is a right and wrong way to do things. And the saints did it the wrong way. It was deceitful and disrespectful. They violated a league tradition and understanding that your not running a legit play when you are in that formation. They spit in the face of good sportsmanship.
If it was to get a bonus, then yeah I could see why you'd go for it but just to go for it just so you can say you scored 1 TD the whole season seems kinda lame, and do it out of victory formation, that's weak. All in all, there was just no honor in it, it was a punk move.
Why don't NFL do it like MLB and if they going intentional walk a batter, they just tell the ref and be done with. The issue isn't really about fake V formation but the players go against their head coach Dennis Allen's call. What kind of respect do they have for their head coach? They might as well fire Allen as he lost the locker room.
If a team fakes a victory formation, all their opponents should take it as a green light to go all out when the QB is trying to take a knee moving forward. I said the same thing when I saw a QB fake a slide and then score. If I was the opponent, I would have taking the 15 yard penalty the next time he slid, just to send him a message that you invite people to injure you when you do something shady like that.
Just the Saints. Other teams have class and do not do this. Cowboy fan and when the Cowboys are in Victory and do the old Landry Shift EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE TAKING A KNEE. Because of total respect for Tom Landry and football in general they would NEVER pull s stunt like this.
@@dodgerforeman678because I think Kenny Picket faked a slide in college. Like when you slide the QB is “giving themselves up” so the defender can’t hit them so if the fake the slide they’re really taking advantage of a rule that’s in place to keep them safe which is unsportsmanlike
Shady never been up against a Brazilian jujitsu fighter. They are trying to bring you as close to death as possible, as fast as possible. Aaron Donald is a sledgehammer and is scary but Royce Gracie was like a boa constrictor in his prime.
@@tonyg3644 If the ball hits the opposites jersey, it's fair game. Floyd Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz when he tried to offer an apology in the ring and Mayweather 2-pieced him. Is that a dirty move also?
@@kefirosites I saw that fight. There’s more to that than the play in the game. Boxing is a one on one. He apologized once and then one more time. He had his gloves down so I do consider it dirty because although Ortiz did foul him, he was being over apologetic and mayweather knocked him while he tried to apologize one more time. Bottom line is Coach called something and Winston went against it.
@@tonyg3644 The team went against it. I can’t lie as a Saints fan, I’m pretty excited to see them on one accord and making that decision together. DA lost control of the locker room and it shows. None the less it’s football. Expect the unexpected.
One thing that always drives me nuts about Shady is he has a strong opinion based on nothing more than his feelings and then just tries to make an argument, and its usually very weak lol.
If teams start running plays out of Victory Formation, then don't be surprised when defenses no longer respect Victory Formation as a soft play. When offensive players start getting hurt because when they are actually in Victory Formation and the defense still goes full speed, remember when the Saints opened these floodgates.
Jameis Winston put a target on his back. I'm waiting for the day he is QB in a victory formation, and defensive players blast him into nothingness. I want folk who think what they did from victory formation to keep that same energy!
I have a problem with it because if the head coach told you and the offense victory formation and you do something else that shows total disrespect to the head coach and you should be cut
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m jameis said it was a team decision so I’m assuming they knew it was supposed to be victory formation but I wasn’t in the huddle idk 🤷🏽♂️
I found it more interesting that they basically gave their own coach a big fu and did what they wanted to. They obviously don’t respect their own coach
I don’t care to share my opinion on this, I’m just so happy it happened, & OF COURSE it was JAMEIS FKN WINSTON! This 1 meaningless play will go down in history. It’s absolutely Legendary.
Shady is ridiculous on his take. I’m sure the Falcons would not have cared if the Saints just lined up and ran a pay. Don’t score from the Victory formation. This play made the Saints look weak…. and this is why Jamies does not play.
Go Saints. Falcons thought they were something during the first meeting they beat us. Had ludicrous bouncing from roof in concert style and all that. Revenge is butter sweet even in victory formation. Who dat
Next year the Saints go in victory formation edge rushers gonna come and sack Carr cause the game is not over yet right? Victory formation is an understanding that the game is over we wanna get of here healthy good game fellas. Now Jameis going rogue and disregard what the Coach said? He better not be in victory position.
My problem with the offensive mindset of “then stop us” is that you aren’t keeping the same energy for jamaal williams who you were getting the td for. If your mindset is just stop us then your mindset for the offense should be to earn it. Jamaal ain’t special. I guarantee you there’s other guys on that offense who didn’t get tds this year. He should have to earn it just like everyone else. So to line up in victory formation and make the defense think you’re kneeling it out and get basically an uncontested td for a guy who didn’t earn it is bogus. Line up in a regular formation and make him earn the td and 2 yards.
I love it. I'm a falcons fan. I HATE the Aints the same amount today as last Friday... I guess I can see victory formation. Jameis understand the rivalry
How many people are not understanding that this was something done to get the players paid somebody? If not, everybody invested in this game we got realize that betting is legal in football. This was done to win some money.
They aren’t saying how this was done for a teammate, aren’t saying how DA wasn’t trying to do a good deed for his player, aren’t saying how DA refused to do it when asked by the players, aren’t saying how Winston isn’t throwing players under the bus like DA and Carr have all season, & aren’t saying how this was a team decision instead saying/framing it as a Winston decision.
@thesouthgotsomethingtosay2204 / @@ranndyburnside613 but if they wanna punk us (Falcons) atleast punk us... like men not by doing it when the other team isn't coming. Atleast when Sean Payton would do it he wasn't hiding it. What they did was cheap but hey a rivalry is a rivalry and I get it.
She’s saying if you don’t want them to score. Stop them? How can you stop somebody if both teams saying okay game over and then still run a play. I didn’t care when they did it. But I do have a problem with the excuses. Jamie need to just say man I haven’t played all year. I wanted to feel like I at least did something. They say something all the time about players making a lay up at the end up basketball games. But now it’s oh if you don’t want them to score stop them
Somehow I knew Shady wouldn’t understand honor among men! That’s like going to shake a man’s hand and while the other man has his hand out you punch him in the face! If you want to punch me get them hands up! Don’t try to get me while my guard is down! But of course Shady wouldn’t understand that!
We should not attack anybody on this panel for any reason, especially not their intellect. But about that “victory formation rpo” from the one yard line while up 41-17…disrespectful in the most respectful way possible. Iron Fist In A Velvet Glove. 👏🏾👏🏾
Yeah he’s an absolutely goof. This is one of his worst takes. It also shows that he didn’t acknowledge or listen to anything that was said during the segment before him.
I respect James Jones Super Bowl ring more than I respect Shady’s 2 Super Bowl rings 😭 Mans spent his career with the Eagles and then ring hopped for those 2 rings
Victory formation is the same is a tap-out in the ufc (for the defense). I want the falcons to go full effort next time and earhole them. See if it’s cool then.
I can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet, or thought to say it on air. But if the Saints were lined up in any other formation, except for victory, then the coach would know that they had something up their sleeve and call a time out. for them to be able to accomplish what they needed to which was get Jamal Williams a touchdown they had to run out of the formation that the coach called.
Exactly this! I'm sure the players weren't thinking about the look of it... They wanted to get Jamaal the TD and knew if they lined up the coach would've stopped it. The story is that Dennis Allen has no control over his players and nothing else.
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Shady is a flat out hypocrite. He knows that's bs. He played rb. If every single tackler dove at his knees to injure him on purpose or if they did the same to the QB he would be the first one yelling about how dirty the player was, isn't it the other teams job to win at all costs? Even at the expense of someone's career? That's what Shady is saying. Sports is not conducted this way. Taking his point at face value bounty gate was perfectly ok. Intentionally injuring players is perfectly alright. Shady's POV is garbage.
He’s trying to get his tik tok clip.
Wrong person, wrong position since there aren't many rules protecting the ball carrier or running-backs in general. There are most def tacklers and defensive players looking to put players out of commission. Plus he's on record saying the game is way too soft in regard to the qb (hence why he dismisses Acho's qb analogy in this video).
Now do I agree with him yes and no. Was the play dirty and disrespectful, yes. Do you have to be prepped for dirty players or the potential of em in games, most def.
He’s an idiot
Bro I really was hoping Shady would keep it real and he did not smh he gave typical Ninja answer Andy Reid what have cut Winston next fking day Be real man lol
Man, James Jones is becoming my favorite. His takes make the most sense. Shady just says nonsense every episode.
yup agree
Way better than the guy they had before
Shady talks nonsense and then Joy tries to justify his barely intelligible nonsense. It's becoming quite a boring shtick from them two, I would consider replacing them both. Bring back Dave and Rick
Shady is envious of James Jones .. James jones is my favorite..
I don't know how that would take more than a single episode, lol. I'm going to assume you didn't see him before he was on his show. My man's professional!
And now you know why they call him shady. 😂
That's not being shady, that's being sneaky. Defending a spineless TD
A "Not So Slim" Shady?
😂
Lol😂😂
@_MRB_Dumb, young, ignorant comment.
Its not about going full to the last moment, its about going full in the victory formation. The next time a Mahomes takes a knee in a victory formation dont cry foul when defenders go take a shot at him! That is the future you want!Never change an unwritten gentelmens rule without thinking about the future!
Exactly she totally missed the point
Exactly...good thing Winston is a backup and rarely plays.
thats already happened before.
This is why I hate Josh Allen. Dude flops for rtp calls
Send backups in for victory formation!
I don't think anyone has an issue of running up the score. Running a sneak play for victory formation is bush league.
The play call was victory, that’s the only reason they ran it from that formation
@@Iog0utthey can change the play they can change the formation
The defense was ready to play and fired off the ball. Find a new excuse to cry
They had to trick their coach to get that young man a td.... if it was at the expense of a Rivals feelings then so be it.
@@flacko_jody2130 not they didn’t did you watch it that is the dumbest take
Honestly, after this you can't get mad if teams get into victory formation, and DTs burst through the line and go for legs.
I agree. Theyre opening the gates to defenders wrecking offensive players and them getting hurt then getting fined and called a dirty player. But if the offense does it its not dirty. Sure🙄
They'll be calling for player bans if mahomes is in victory and a dt breaks his leg on snap 😂😂😂
@@nathanhundley5347 That is on the SAINTS and their players no one else. Other 31 teams, for the most part, have class. May have to get NFL Sunday Ticket in 2024 just to watch Saints/Falcons next season.
@@davidroman1654 that's fair. Falcons will remember this
Yea but going below the knees Is illegal regardless so that’s dirty. If defense just burst through and does a legal tackle i doubt a mf cares
Shady probably would have fumbled in victory formation too
🤣🤣🤣
Joy every episode “I agree with Shady…To Shady’s point I agree” 🤣
I mean they did let her go before him so maybe they caught on lol.
@thesportsfanatic2106 they disscuss their takes before the show comes on.
yeah it is super boring now, turning me off the program
He clapping them cheeks that's why
ur an incel fs
Its the equivalent of throwing a sucker punch
OK, so what happens when the defense decides to take victory formation serious, while the offense is chilling, and somebody’s quarterback gets hurt
That should have been the response to shady. Hey shady, what if a defender jumps over the line and smashes Hurts, breaking his leg
You would have to run thru a person to get to the qb.. and everyone would be on alert instantly🤷🏾♂️😂🤣☠️ that's what would happen
@@byronsmith3152I mean James technically did ask him about it. “What if the DT come off the ball and rocks you while you chillin” I forgot what shady said to that but I know what ever he said he’s lying. He would be ready to fight and possibly talking about it in a post game interview about the DT being dirty
@@kylemorganmitchellii62 bro defensive players get to the quarterback when they know they’re coming that’s called a sack Now imagine if they think everyone is chilling, but somebody like Aaron Donald just decides to go full speed
Exactly. Players are going to get hurt because nobody knows if the victory formation is respected anymore.
Who cares about the Falcons coach, what about the DISRESPECT to the Saints head coach? That's the real issue that everyone is glossing over
💯!!!!
Yup. If I was that coach I’d let the players come up with next weeks game plan and play calling
@@ezshottah3732only problem aimt no next week for em....
@@cleanergreenslawnandlandsc8842 who won the division?
Well, DA isn’t well received by the Saints faithful and that might be spilling over to the players
It's extremely dirty. It's no different than a QB faking a slide. Don't come crying when the next time you "slide" you get your head taken off.
Facts
Another crazy take by shady. Victory formation is literally there so no one gets injured and to prevent a turnover.
It’s football. Fans want rivalries then are shocked when rivalries happen. Can’t win I guess.
Did someone get hurt on that play?
@@EastSideRudeBoy injured and hurt are two completely different things 😂 do you think it would hurt if 350 pound lineman fired off of the ball when you kinda stood there with your guard down. Yes I’m sure it hurt but if you meant to ask if anyone was injured, which I think that’s what you were getting at the answer is no. Thankfully no one sustained any serious injuries but easily could have
@@Thenostolgicdude someone is a little dramatic.
@@plutotech have you seen Shannon sharps take on it 😂 dramatic gtfoh
Victory formation is a form of giving you mercy and letting the game carry on without the need of anyone getting hurt.
This is my thought as well. What if the Bucs had lost so the Saints got into the playoffs, but somebody got hurt on this pointless play and their playoff run was hurt because of a pointless score.
If they scared to get hurt then the scout team should be in 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@lawrencemalone-px6qe Lineup in Goal Line like men.
@@rve420 that’s like saying “line up in a offense like men” when they do a fake punt or saying “throw the ball normal like men” on a slew flicker. Trick plays have been in the game since football was made.
In the words of Jimmy Graham… F the Falcons!
James Jones has to be permanent host on speak. He has been a upgrade
The next time Jameis lines up in victory formation and gets smashed behind his head because a defender thinks he’s going to pull some gimmick like this. Pls come get Shady to go fight for him. My biggest issue is that he disrespected his coach, you don’t show your coach up like that.
“Everything is dirty…”. Spoken like a man you do not trust and deserves no mercy from beginning to end.
Why is shady always so stupid? Seriously, this guy is the king of terrible takes.
Dude is salty because the eagles aren’t going into the playoffs playing well. He’s just throwing his little tantrum and can’t win an argument.
Y'all a bag of chips. Salty af
Every show needs a Skip Bayless.
Shady has to have some dirt on the producers because dude adds ZERO intellect to a conversation about football he played years for.
It’s entertainment and as much as I dislike him, I do think he brings the entertainment value to the show.
@@joes2828 Yeah Shady is there to entertain the low IQ fans
A little bit, however he acts like he still in the locker room with his bias!
Completely agree. He comes off as an idiot.
@@errondeloney1396 Just keeps proving the fact that "YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID"
Shady needs to stop it. It’s disrespectful out of that formation period
That’s why they did it… to be disrespectful.
yup i knew he was looking he was gonna be a clown and say it was okay
He's just wrong and he's leaning into his wrongness.
If they lined up normally... the coach would of called a time out and put the backups in... they were trying to get the rb his only td of the season... knowing their season was over. If ppl think that's terrible then those are terrible ppl🤷🏾♂️😂🙏🏾 Kat Williams would of done the same thing🥴🥴🥴🤣☠️🤣☠️☠️🏃🏾♂️✌🏾🏈
@@haloiscool1235if you are relaxed and I ran into you in your back with all force I can break your back, your spine, give you whiplash. Whatever. The d front is not even trying. You could of rolled over they’re legs and ended somebody career. I feel like it’s a difference of disrespect and being down right dirty. Calling timeout with 1 sec left and going for it is disrespectful. Diving at me when game is technically over. If Jessie Bates shot a gap in that formation and boomed Jamies Jessie would be labeled “dirty asf” “no play in the league for that”. And Jamies would of complained too
Lmao Shady really said "everything is dirty in sports" 😂😂😂
As a former madden player I can confirm this was disrespectful
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Jamaal Williams should be shamed
Exactly, his only TD for the season is worthless.
😆 good one.
Lol
Shady has the dumbest takes. 😅
yup a clown
I honestly don’t know how he keeps his job
2nd dumbest. Joy always beats him in that category.
Shady takes dumb to new levels.
Shady talk real. And y’all mad.
Shady argues just for the sake of arguing 😔 dude take the L with your L take and go home
Nah he had a good point
It’s a debate show. I’m sure he was told to take the opposing stance.
@@Doatello1991 Had to be told because he is so challenged to make a point on his on.
@@bbking3797 No he didn't. Dude was talking out the other end of his body
Nah he sit there rolling his eyes and huffing puffing like a lil bih@@Doatello1991
The real issue here is the locker room disconnect.
And Jameis just effectively announced his retirement with that interview.
I remember a few years ago the Bucs (I believe under Greg schiano) would try their hardest to force a fumble on victory formation and the football world went nuts saying it was bad and it’s time to give up in that situation. If you’re supposed to always be ready on victory formation then you can’t be mad when teams rush the qb out of that formation too
It was Detroit
@@blacklac100 well then it was also Detroit, Bucs did it back in 2012 too
My bad it was the Rams that pushed the lions who were in victory formation
Shady missing the whole point…
Immature af
Shady need to go like Dennis Allen!! He’s the odd ball up there. Go Saints🥰⚜️⚜️⚜️
The only person to question the fact that the players didn’t listen to the coach when he told them to kneel, is Joy and not the former players on the set is pretty telling.
Exactly. People are too focused on the wrong angle. I can tell you as a Saints fan that it was a simple matter of the team trying to look out for Jamaal Williams, who had an TD incentive. It wasn’t so much they were trying to be disrespectful or dirty, they were trying to do right by their teammate. Besides, people can say what they want about Dennis Allen’s predecessor, but the team would’ve never went rogue on Sean Payton. That should tell anybody what they need to know about Dennis Allen’s “leadership”.
@@tmc31390 Imagine getting that TD from victory formation. That’s sad.
Shady don't even believe what he's saying. He just wants to debate and argue for the show 😅
Shady lost me with this one. Now when defense starts firing off the ball at the QB everyone gonna be mad 10:42
Shady got his soul taken the past 6 weeks 😂😂😂 i love it
Shady say’s some crazy stuff lol
Winston should be cut. Even Dennis Allen said that it was completely disrespectful and wrong. McCoy saying everything is dirty is a perfect example of what young players should not be taught.
I see a lot of people not understanding/ignoring the point. And acho explained it well, nobody cares that the saints scored. It’s the way in which you scored. There is a right and wrong way to do things. And the saints did it the wrong way. It was deceitful and disrespectful. They violated a league tradition and understanding that your not running a legit play when you are in that formation. They spit in the face of good sportsmanship.
If it was to get a bonus, then yeah I could see why you'd go for it but just to go for it just so you can say you scored 1 TD the whole season seems kinda lame, and do it out of victory formation, that's weak. All in all, there was just no honor in it, it was a punk move.
Why don't NFL do it like MLB and if they going intentional walk a batter, they just tell the ref and be done with. The issue isn't really about fake V formation but the players go against their head coach Dennis Allen's call. What kind of respect do they have for their head coach? They might as well fire Allen as he lost the locker room.
I had the over😂😂😂😂
If a team fakes a victory formation, all their opponents should take it as a green light to go all out when the QB is trying to take a knee moving forward. I said the same thing when I saw a QB fake a slide and then score. If I was the opponent, I would have taking the 15 yard penalty the next time he slid, just to send him a message that you invite people to injure you when you do something shady like that.
Just the Saints. Other teams have class and do not do this. Cowboy fan and when the Cowboys are in Victory and do the old Landry Shift EVERYONE KNOWS THEY ARE TAKING A KNEE. Because of total respect for Tom Landry and football in general they would NEVER pull s stunt like this.
Gonna be open season on the saints every time they get in victory formation next season.
How you gonna compare a knee to a slide 😂😂😂
@@dodgerforeman678because I think Kenny Picket faked a slide in college. Like when you slide the QB is “giving themselves up” so the defender can’t hit them so if the fake the slide they’re really taking advantage of a rule that’s in place to keep them safe which is unsportsmanlike
@@tristingarcia4347 ok now understand gotcha 👍
Shady never been up against a Brazilian jujitsu fighter. They are trying to bring you as close to death as possible, as fast as possible. Aaron Donald is a sledgehammer and is scary but Royce Gracie was like a boa constrictor in his prime.
Shady all time Eagles rushing leader with 6,792 yards, Cowboys Emmitt Smith with 17,162 yards. Don Perkins has 6,217 is #4. Great "record" there buddy
Shady in his feelings. His almond joy melted in his hands 😢😂😂😂
A guy calls a fair catch and gets hit anyway. Yeah it was a dirty play and whoever was in on it should be cut like Shannon Sharpe said.
Yeah but if he Muffs it, and gets hit then it's a different story. You always have to be prepared
@@kefirositesyea be prepared to catch either way but if he calls fair catch, he can’t get hit.
@@tonyg3644 If the ball hits the opposites jersey, it's fair game. Floyd Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz when he tried to offer an apology in the ring and Mayweather 2-pieced him. Is that a dirty move also?
@@kefirosites I saw that fight. There’s more to that than the play in the game. Boxing is a one on one. He apologized once and then one more time. He had his gloves down so I do consider it dirty because although Ortiz did foul him, he was being over apologetic and mayweather knocked him while he tried to apologize one more time. Bottom line is Coach called something and Winston went against it.
@@tonyg3644 The team went against it. I can’t lie as a Saints fan, I’m pretty excited to see them on one accord and making that decision together. DA lost control of the locker room and it shows. None the less it’s football. Expect the unexpected.
“That’s why we talking about it cause it don’t happen”
JJ Killed Shady wit that one… see his face? 😂😂
He most definitely did. Shady didn't have no comeback for James after that and I love it
One thing that always drives me nuts about Shady is he has a strong opinion based on nothing more than his feelings and then just tries to make an argument, and its usually very weak lol.
Exactly. He sounds ridiculous all of the time.
Shout out to Jameis Winston for the controversial touchdown and his interview afterwards. He cemented himself in history😂😂😂
Shady & Joy are really holding this show back from being one of the best and that’s fact!
If teams start running plays out of Victory Formation, then don't be surprised when defenses no longer respect Victory Formation as a soft play. When offensive players start getting hurt because when they are actually in Victory Formation and the defense still goes full speed, remember when the Saints opened these floodgates.
Acho would know that’s the only time he saw the field is in victory formation 😂😂
Taysom Hill was the only one on the field clearly embarrassed by the play call. At least one of those guys has some integrity.
He better stay quiet tho. He can get shipped with Dennis Allen.
I noticed that too.
He lined up so deep he was past the refs
Jameis Winston put a target on his back. I'm waiting for the day he is QB in a victory formation, and defensive players blast him into nothingness. I want folk who think what they did from victory formation to keep that same energy!
Keep waiting. Wishing bad on another man that you don’t even know is a feminine trait
I have a problem with it because if the head coach told you and the offense victory formation and you do something else that shows total disrespect to the head coach and you should be cut
I’m a saints fan a lot of saints players said they agreed with jameis so should they be cut too they obviously don’t like their head coach
@@bbking3797But the head coach told Jameis victory formation so it’s Jameis job to delay the message to the guys on offense
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m jameis said it was a team decision so I’m assuming they knew it was supposed to be victory formation but I wasn’t in the huddle idk 🤷🏽♂️
@@bbking3797So did the defense know about it? And Jameis isn’t even the starter
@@bbking3797right! They all agreed and they did it. It was g his idea.
Victory formation is for the end. Its over. You wanna score come out goal line like men.
I found it more interesting that they basically gave their own coach a big fu and did what they wanted to. They obviously don’t respect their own coach
As a saints fan I don’t respect the coach either. Saints should have easily owned this division
@@bigt9821💯
Bruh this is a real rival of the city of New Orleans not just the saints
The Coach said take a knee.
I don’t care to share my opinion on this, I’m just so happy it happened, & OF COURSE it was JAMEIS FKN WINSTON! This 1 meaningless play will go down in history. It’s absolutely Legendary.
Shady is ridiculous on his take. I’m sure the Falcons would not have cared if the Saints just lined up and ran a pay. Don’t score from the Victory formation. This play made the Saints look weak…. and this is why Jamies does not play.
Fake QB slide is kinda same, the D will stop the play, but doing this out of the V formation I've never seen. It's disrespectful and changes things.
Go Saints. Falcons thought they were something during the first meeting they beat us. Had ludicrous bouncing from roof in concert style and all that. Revenge is butter sweet even in victory formation. Who dat
Believe dat‼️⚜️Who dat⚜️‼️
Shady not being honest is hilarious 😂
Joy was having a blast 🤣🤣🤣
Hmmm..."Shady" thinks a disrespectful play is fair game, very Shady.
That's why shady is shady..
People be forgetting lol
WHY WE TALKING ABOUT IRRELEVANT TEAMS?
Next year the Saints go in victory formation edge rushers gonna come and sack Carr cause the game is not over yet right?
Victory formation is an understanding that the game is over we wanna get of here healthy good game fellas. Now Jameis going rogue and disregard what the Coach said? He better not be in victory position.
This is a rivalry
If I'm the Saints GM/Coach, no way that dude in my locker next season.......Winston is a bum and a disease.....
I normally agree about running up scores who cares but in this case the coach told you not to so Jamis needs to hit the road
Cry about it
My problem with the offensive mindset of “then stop us” is that you aren’t keeping the same energy for jamaal williams who you were getting the td for. If your mindset is just stop us then your mindset for the offense should be to earn it. Jamaal ain’t special. I guarantee you there’s other guys on that offense who didn’t get tds this year. He should have to earn it just like everyone else. So to line up in victory formation and make the defense think you’re kneeling it out and get basically an uncontested td for a guy who didn’t earn it is bogus. Line up in a regular formation and make him earn the td and 2 yards.
Exactly. It's basically a charity TD. If you actually had any self-respect you wouldn't want it.
I love it. I'm a falcons fan. I HATE the Aints the same amount today as last Friday... I guess I can see victory formation. Jameis understand the rivalry
And we SAINTS fans hate ya'll FAILCONS just as much as ever too. WHO DAT!!!
I do not think this was about the rivalry. I think this was Jameis and the team showing up DA bc he has lost that locker room
Pay back...
It's mutual
Shady looks like someone from the back has stole his lunch and is eating it infront of him whilst he is on set 😂😂😂😂
I think that no team will give the Saints a Victory Formation again.
Atl vs NO is a rivalry and always has been
How many people are not understanding that this was something done to get the players paid somebody? If not, everybody invested in this game we got realize that betting is legal in football. This was done to win some money.
The fact that every media member is against the decision makes me like Jameis’s decision even more.
They aren’t saying how this was done for a teammate, aren’t saying how DA wasn’t trying to do a good deed for his player, aren’t saying how DA refused to do it when asked by the players, aren’t saying how Winston isn’t throwing players under the bus like DA and Carr have all season, & aren’t saying how this was a team decision instead saying/framing it as a Winston decision.
Joy code-switching with this panel is hilarious!😂
Saints and Falcons is a big rivalry…Score as much as you can score
Exactly... We Hate each other. They need to look up what happens at Saints Vs Falcons Games. Before During and After
@thesouthgotsomethingtosay2204 / @@ranndyburnside613 but if they wanna punk us (Falcons) atleast punk us... like men not by doing it when the other team isn't coming. Atleast when Sean Payton would do it he wasn't hiding it. What they did was cheap but hey a rivalry is a rivalry and I get it.
Falcons fans and Saints fans already over it. Everybody else making it a big deal worry about yalls own rivalry..
If it’s about respect tell the Falcons to put the Saints name on the score board instead of visitors, now that is disrespectful
“Ain’t no shook hands in Brooklyn”
-B.I.G
🤙🏻
0:53 it is the real real, boxers have got knocked out or punched in the face and just like this play, they scored.
She’s saying if you don’t want them to score. Stop them? How can you stop somebody if both teams saying okay game over and then still run a play. I didn’t care when they did it. But I do have a problem with the excuses. Jamie need to just say man I haven’t played all year. I wanted to feel like I at least did something. They say something all the time about players making a lay up at the end up basketball games. But now it’s oh if you don’t want them to score stop them
Somehow I knew Shady wouldn’t understand honor among men! That’s like going to shake a man’s hand and while the other man has his hand out you punch him in the face! If you want to punch me get them hands up! Don’t try to get me while my guard is down! But of course Shady wouldn’t understand that!
Sorry I love Jameis but you don’t line up in victory formation and then sneak In a play when you’re up 24. Great way to get someone hurt.
Shady with the smooth brain take once again
There’s a reason Jameis is on the bench. Dude is corny 😂
Long live Jameis Winston!! WHO DAT!!!
Y’all call football soft these days but cry about a team running up points on the team their going against. Y’all are literally hypocrites
I agree with acho, to both points 🤡
We should not attack anybody on this panel for any reason, especially not their intellect.
But about that “victory formation rpo” from the one yard line while up 41-17…disrespectful in the most respectful way possible.
Iron Fist In A Velvet Glove. 👏🏾👏🏾
The Saints scored! It was a team decision…It’s a rivalry game…It is what it is….
Classy Aints fan
@@ADUSN and you are classless being blocked lol bye bye
Shady sitting over there thinking real hard trying to find something stupid to say.
Yeah he’s an absolutely goof. This is one of his worst takes.
It also shows that he didn’t acknowledge or listen to anything that was said during the segment before him.
U a goof too . U never play and u soft af
I respect James Jones Super Bowl ring more than I respect Shady’s 2 Super Bowl rings 😭 Mans spent his career with the Eagles and then ring hopped for those 2 rings
He named Shady for a reason guys
Shady is such a clown!
Acho the first person the give context on why the touchdown was so important. I been waiting on somebody to point that out
The point is the coach told them to take a knee and Winston went rogue
Ever heard of an audible?
@Rayunicorn1 that wasn't an audible.
Victory formation is the same is a tap-out in the ufc (for the defense). I want the falcons to go full effort next time and earhole them. See if it’s cool then.
I can’t believe no one has mentioned this yet, or thought to say it on air. But if the Saints were lined up in any other formation, except for victory, then the coach would know that they had something up their sleeve and call a time out. for them to be able to accomplish what they needed to which was get Jamal Williams a touchdown they had to run out of the formation that the coach called.
Exactly this! I'm sure the players weren't thinking about the look of it... They wanted to get Jamaal the TD and knew if they lined up the coach would've stopped it.
The story is that Dennis Allen has no control over his players and nothing else.
No problem going for a TD but not that way. Acting like you’re gonna line up in a victory formation then sneak it in is a cheap way to do it.
Shady makes James jones look smart
wtf you talking about? James jones always on point. You just wanna run yo mouth
@@traplordso985 I been watch sports talk all my life ik what I’m talking about
People don't understand, we DESPISE the Falcons as a staff, an organization and a front office, F**k the falcons its not that complicated WHO DAT ⚜️💯 and any saints fans who have a problem, go to Atlanta!