David Lynch in conversation with Susie Pearl: The power of TM meditation, creativity & the Art Life
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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Susie talks to iconic film director, David Lynch about life, art, movies and meditation..
Susie and David chat about the power of TM meditation, David´s daily routine, how he approaches ideas and creativity for his films, and what living the Art Life means to him.
David talks about why coffee and cigarettes are important for him to get started, how to catch big ideas and how to know which ideas to act on. He discusses having a set up as an artist to work and what this means. He tells a personal story about John Lennon and Maharishi in India and how to keep your best ideas. David has been a meditator for 46 years and has meditated every day twice a day. He has not missed one session..
David talks about diving within for ideas, his daily routine, where ideas come from and how to grab them, writer's block, his process as a painter and his story with Ibiza, making music with DJs from this island.
An engaging and personal interview with one of the world's most creative and loved film-makers and visual artists. David is talking from his home in LA and Susie from Ibiza. Feb 2019.
Rest in peace, dear David. Jan 2025.
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I've fallen down a David Lynch UA-cam rabbithole and I don't want to get outt
Me too!😂
Me too 😊❤
Ditto 🤩
me too ❤
Same
I fucking love the fact that David promotes meditation but also equally promotes caffeine and tobacco. I think a lot of people who might be curious about the benefits of meditation get scared off because they feel like it HAS to be combined with a super healthy physical lifestyle, but this guy is a living example that you can do whatever the fuck you want.
I meditate everyday since 1975
I drink coffee...2 cups and then meditate
I stopped smoking 22 years ago but always loved smoking and coffee ....and meditation
"LOL" is kind of like saying " H a " @@Thesaurcery4U2C
Loser shit
@@Joe_Black_Rockil ne buvait plus depuis des années et ne faisait pas l’apologie de l’alcool…
❤
David Lynch has been my unofficial guru during this quarantine.
Me too, Birdhouse.
hehe. same
@@susiepearl Your story is amazing! Can you, or anyone else for that matter, describe for me the qualities of the transcendental state? I try lots of techniques, with varying results - but I still don't know if I've achieved what is described by David in this video.
Same 😂
It's like a college course. nothing less.
"I'm also busy trying to catch ideas.....yeah.." - David Lynch is the bestttt
David Lynch is my grand wizard master. His words, his work, his wisdom helped me and will continue to help me throughout life
I've been hesitant to try meditation for many years but listening to David explain it in such a simple, intelligent way has made me decide i'm going to give it a chance. I'm very sad he's no longer here with us. I adore his work so much but i'm even more grateful he shared his love of meditation with as many people as he could. ❤
I was convinced he was hanging upside-down when I started watching this. I'm four minutes in and I'm still not convinced
RIP Mr. Lynch, my only regret is not having found your content/movies sooner! Loving my first watch of Twin Peaks, profound stuff ❤
Im gonna miss this man, the world was a better place with him in it, just hearing him talk made me feel happier, from TP to TM to a fine cup of Joe to an amazing list of films to sounds he created, worlds he invented. Goodbye David and thank you.
Love - thank you
I just love that twinkly thing David Lynch always does with his fingers to make his point, as if sprinkling magic dust over the thing he is trying to explain
Me too. Just love it Andrew
I thought of a piece of assemblage artwork that could be entitled "Essence of Lynch" composed of three things: a large quiff of hair in his style, large shoulder pads and a hand moving in that way with the fingers. That's all that's needed to convey the essence of Lynch. 😊
Beautiful interview of a beautiful genius. I love you and miss you so much, David. Rest in bliss. You’re irreplaceable.
He sprinkles magic. Something in the air ✨🥹🙇♀️🙏 thankful for this illuminating and enlightening conversation. Thankful for meditation, sadhana and for David’s continued immortal reminder that we have the power to transcend *boundaries and that blissfulness is right here right now* 🥹🙇♀️🙏❤️🔥✨
What an amazing interview. I've heard many with David but in this one you've managed to break away from all of these cliche questions and he opened up more than usual I think. Good job, love this guy.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I started TM this week after a decade of anxiety and misery and negativity. I can't believe I found something that works for me.
It is so powerful to help with negative thoughts. Happy it is working for you.
Ah bon ça fonctionne pour vous... espérons que ça continue !
the jackhammer was just knockin' bliss into me :D
This interview is gold, Susie. So glad you were able to spend this time with David - I appreciate him so much. And appreciate you for making this interview happen and sharing it.
thank you @miggseye
It's nice to see David so engaged. I did TM for 4.5 years after seeing him push it so relentlessly, unfortunately I never got to experience anything close to what these two describe their first meditations as being. Throughout those 4.5 years I found the technique to be tedious and a chore, full of incessant thoughts, and never felt like I was making any progress or transcending in any way, and nothing my teacher suggested helped either. Eventually I gave up and switched to mindfulness/vipassana and have finally begun experiencing transcendent moments while meditating this past year, along with all the other benefits David mentions. Which is all to say, I completely agree everyone should meditate, but I don't approve of this notion stated by David so many times that TM is the only technique everyone should do and the only one that works - this claim to exclusivity is based in ignorance. If it works for you, great do go ahead and do it, but it might not and in that case don't bang your head against the wall for years like I did thinking it's your fault that it doesn't work, try something else. There are other incredibly effective techniques out there, both ancient and modern, and many of them are also accessible to less wealthy members of society (which TM isn't necessarily).
Hi Eric, we all look for the thing that works best for us. Glad you found something you like and that works for you. Great!
Thank you Susie :) just to clarify having re-read my post I feel like it might have ended up sounding more aggressive or anti-TM than it was meant. I absolutely recommend people to try TM if they feel like it is the right path for them, by all accounts it has done amazing things for a great many people. I'm just trying to encourage more open-mindedness towards other approaches.
@@empireoflightz Thank you. Yes, whatever works for each person is the best approach.
@ Eric B. Thank you for this honest EXPERIENCE you wrote about. Creativity is so much more than meditating.
I.Q. has so much to do with it including elements totally unknown. I bet Lynch's I.Q.is barely above a 100, he is no genius in that department, just a good talker. If TM alone could do it, there would be a lot more Picasso's, Kandinsky's, Tarkovsky's, Man Ray's, Einsteins, Gödel's and Ayn Rand's in the world, (none of whom TM'd by the way, and are all VERY creative individuals) The fact remains there are not.
@@fromthepeanutgallery1084 Ayn Rand? Ha.
He seems like such a sweetheart. I love to hear him talk.
Yes, what a lovely man, isn't he Charl
@@susiepearl6061 and a mensch.
Susie asked some amazing questions! And they make sense with regards to chronology of the questions that kind of helped evolve the conversation. And she is able to listen❤ (Susie is).
wooooow, David usually looks like he can't wait for the interview to be over. He is so engaged with every question here, I love it!
Yay - what a great chat we had. Loved talking to this icon and beautiful man
he has respect for Susie and it shows .
But not in the very ending haha
Was so abruptully. Whatever, great interview. I'm feeling so confident and engaging to meditating and start again to writing , that I will started right away - it will be my "december 1st".
i know the exact feeling David talks about with forgetting ideas. I've written music all my life and the amount of songs I've woke up in the night and heard in my head, then got up, figured out on guitar, play it with the lyrics i hear, and then go back to sleep thinking 'that's so good, i wont forget' then the next morning I can never remember how it went. devastating
Record.
"coffee & cigarettes just go hand in hand"
Love your story Susie. So happy your here with us. You are truly a miracle, and inspiration. Keep up the amazing work. We love you!
Thanks WPP. Its always lovely to get some support and kind words. Thank you so much. Susie
So happy about this idea business ... I’m pretty sure my TM teacher said not to write down ideas that come during TM. She said that if it was meant to stick it would ... you’d remember it. Which did mess me up as I had some amazing ideas in TM... that struck me like lightening... but then I forgot them.
I’m very Excited to allow this new process of writing things down to unfold. 🤘❤️🤘🙏
Yes, the magic of capturing ideas. And the yellow pads.
Hi Suzie- ! I just wanted to let you know that this video conversation with David is what turned me on to TM four years ago. Because of this video and because of Davids and your passion for meditation, I decided to pursue finding a teacher in the middle of the pandemic just wanted to say thanks because I’ve revisited this conversation many times since then And I’m always inspired. Thank you!
great David
What a brilliant interview. Thank you so much.
coffee and cigarettes are artful and do go hand and hand 👐🏻
Meditation has brought me closer to all religions and more empathy to the people I care for...🎑✨
Me too - made me more human and more compassionate with empathy for everyones situations. Life is complicated for humans!
suie your questions were exactly pointed to viewers expectations. Thank you for made this quality content with the legend.
Much love for David
Interviewer: "Do you do any mindmapping when making your films?"
Lynch: "MInd what?"
What a great interview though. Lynch is a beauty and a great original. You can tell that all his work is entirely from his mind and experiences, and that's what makes it so fascinating. The links that he describes between TM, surrealism and art are very compelling.
Lynch is the best. He always brings a smile to my face.
Wooooooooow this is great!!!!!
Thanks!
All ideas come from Source. The Universal Mind. We connect with our Higher Self in meditation which is really at one with all other peoples Higher selves and there is no division.
I saw the short video first about writer's block and then had to watch this whole video. This is WONDERFUL! THANK YOU for doing this interview and for sharing it with the world. You and David are blessings to us all. Once everyone is doing TM at least twice a day the world will recognize itself as one human family and all war will end. I'm envisioning this day coming much sooner than anyone might have expected. Join with me in this vision. It's already happened in my mind, I'm just waiting for it fully fully manifest into our plane of existence. God bless you for the good work you're doing. I'm a writer too. I'm subscribing to your channel and I want to read this book once you've finished it. In closing, I'm so happy for you and the wonderful work you're doing in service to our Creator and Lord, God, who is LOVE. Love is the answer.; the problem matters not. God bless you. Be well and keep being the love you wish to see in this world, my sister.
Thanks Seth, so glad you enjoyed watching this. TM meditation is a game changer and helps to make this world a better place. Keep your good vision strong. Susie
Amazing. I have a very small art gallery and I end up doing a lot of cleaning and arranging myself. I never really thought about it but I now think this is my form of meditation. When he talks about the jackhammering, somewhat of a constant here in Hanoi, I recognize what he is saying about it being a sound to which he can meditate. I know that I go through a tremendous range of emotions when I am doing the menial tasks that I have to perform to keep my place clean. I remember being brought to tears after a reasonably successful exhibition where I sold nothing but really enjoyed the experience. Other times, I just feel joy in hanging pieces that have survived the rigors of the many moves I have had to make and their time in art shows, restaurants, hotels and other places where they have been hanged. I think I sometimes imagine myself hanging there with them. I guess at the end of the day, it is true, it is me that is on display...
Hi Ron, thanks for sharing your great story. It{s amazing that tasks that let our. mind wander takes us into a dream-like meditation state. All good wishes to Hanoi. Thanks for watching, Susie
I hope that the white lodge is filled with lots of painting supplies for Mr . David Lynch ❤️
I believe we are all born meditating, that what we call "meditation " in adulthood " is something that we all knew what and how in childhood. I am referring at those reflection moments, day dreaming, revering moments a toddler has and in adulthood might become a nap time or siesta time and other habits. My point is we all have this knowledge, like many other notions, but growing up we leave it aside or learn how to leave it aside. Thank you for this lovely video! ❤
As for David Lynch, sir I want to thank you not only for this video but also for being who you are! ❤
i love both of you so so much you have no idea how much love i hold for the both of you im so grateful for this talk
So glad you found it useful and like it. Great to know Spinnertopia! Thank you
Great interview + the 2d lamp in David’s background 😅
:)
This was beautiful, blessed be Susie & David.
Thanks Jani - so glad you enjoyed it!
great interview Susie always love to hear how Lynch's processes art
Thanks Deep. Really glad you enjoyed it : )
I love this interview. I have transcended. I happened all the time when I was a child. Right before falling asleep, just like David says, I would feel very very big, and very very small. Back and forth. Like I was part of the universe, huge, out there and then I would become very small, tiny. It is/was amazing. I love the way David talks about getting rid of negativity. I do agree. Sometimes when I feel great, things go so well, all sorts of synchronicities. Everything is easy and magical. Then sometimes, there is a down period, when things feel hard, isolating. Anyway, I could go on and on. Amazing.
Thank you for writing this, I have hardly ever heard anyone else describe what as a child I started calling the big-little sensation. And I still experience it and it is amazing.
Wonderful interview. Lovely questions. You were very respectful and really gave him the floor to speak his mind without interrupting him. And your personal story at the end was very touching as well. I have a personal belief that we're not dead until we're dead, so live and don't let statistic's and someone else's diagnosis get you down, and you proved my belief. Take care Susie, live and be happy :)
This is such a special treat to have Mister Lynch doing an interview like this! Thank you for this beautiful moment. He’s been my inspiration since the 90s when I first watched Twin Peaks. There’s no other like him! A true artist!
What a lovely interview. Such a fascinating passage by yourself at the end, too. What an amazing advertisement for TM. Thank you for this!
As a Muslim I pray five times a day, or am supposed to do so. I can't say I always pray on time. But that prayer is meditation and definitely transcending.
I do believe we definitely need to connect to the soul and to the One.
To each their own, and each one does it their way, but meditation and introspection is key.
To live as if it's normal to live -to me- is the peak of arrogance and sheepishness. How can you not question, wonder and be AMAZED of everything in this psychedelic world??
I can not understand that.
Salaam ou haleikoum/Peace be upon to you.
Quick question what do you mean by, "to live as if it's normal to live"?
Prayer and Meditation is different.
You don't need to meditate 5 times a day, Religion is expecting 72 virgins and heaven but Spirituality is realizing heaven is within us.
@@redpillmatrix3046 thats your exrtemely idiotic perception of what my religion is.
It has become completely 'ok' to trash it.. and also very cliché. But it says a lot about the person doing it. I think you would benefit from.some more meditation.
@@Stoney-Jacksman I think you need to read your holy book more. I'm a kafir.
Truly amazing, truly elegant, truly art.
Glad you loved it!
Thank you both for such an inspiring talk.
Glad you enjoyed it Sharon!
@@susiepearl I want to wish you well with your book. Meditation has changed my life and it is so wonderful that people like you and David are taking the time to spread the word. I look forward to the future when we teach children from an early age how to meditate. Keep up the wonderful work!
@@SharonAFox Thank you Sharon. Will do!
Sweet love to you david, cool guy. Rest easy.
Love Davids eyes .
Great interview! I've been a meditator since 1998 and have never missed a day. So I know it works. I had a close friend who sadly died of a brain tumour in 2019, so I'm glad you healed yourself, Susie. :-)
Thank you Trevor. Great you have got into meditation and found your rhythm with it. Sorry to hear of your friend. Its something that is so widespread these days. I was very lucky to get through it.
I've spent many many many hours watching David speak, soaking up his wisdom. Have read some of his books on TM and creativity. But this is definitely one of the most lucid, expressive and in depth interviews of his I've seen.
another word for love is affinity. we choose what we have affinity for, whether it's a person, what car to drive, what music to listen to, where to live etc
I have not been in the course. But on TikTok, I tripped across a very short excerpt of him, explaining where this quantum field is. And everyone that knows TikTok it keeps repeating itself, and Wally was talking. I slept off, and I want to put displace and I meditated for years often on without consistency and I could vibrate and actually leave my body so this was different. I went to this placewhere things that I loved existed it was a plane and I was with two animals that I loved the gardens and the place around me or so detailed and accurate and perfect and every sense of the word. Absolutely loved it if I could afford to take these classes I would do it.
David is an angel
20:36 Ha !!! How many cartoon ideas I've forgotten !! I really identified with this.
Thank you for this interview, love David. Glad you beat the tumor, you got a new sub.
Thanks for the sub!
David i love you so much
You will live through generations 💙
6:50 wow that is fantastic
Glad you enjoyed Redshift :)
Great! thank you
for memory work autistic telepathy. Rest In Power David Lynch & Chris Boyd. True Artists
I feel when we sleep our consciousness gets disconnected from our bodies and becomes free and goes back to the source, the pool of thoughts, other realities (we remember them as dreams) Then when we wake our consciousness needs to find its way back to this reality but like a radio it may not get back to the same radio, how do I know this? I don't, I feel it. I woke the other day and I was still in my dream and had not idea where who or when I was for a few seconds. It's a great feeling and not scary at all, I'm gonna start TM soon and Mr Lynch is how I discovered it through him beautiful art.
He's much more open in this format, perhaps because he's in the comfort of his home; usually he's guarded and mysterious.
Hi, Susie! I arrived here this afternoon because I was researching Twin Peaks. I already write, and was intrigued by what Mr Lynch said about transcendental meditation helping his process. I paused the video to google it, found there was a free online introductory session this evening with my local centre, and booked. The website acknowledges the disparity of income in the UK, and there is a scale of fees for the initial course in TM depending on income. I feel they haven't quite got it right, since those earning £40k would pay 1.475%, whereas an individual on Universal Credit would pay 70% of an entire month's income, equivalent to 5.895% annual income. (I mention it here because I read some of the previous comments and people had referred to various costs.) I'm interested to learn about TM because although I found Twin Peaks obtuse in many places, I perceived David Lynch to be a warm and genuine person, which he clearly communicated through his acting in Twin Peaks, and again here, chatting with you, Susie. Your personal story of defeating a brain tumour was surprising and encouraging. Thank you for sharing your story. I've had an enlightening afternoon!
OMG, isn’t he dreamy!? ❤️💗❤️
Totally wonderful !
This is such a wholesome interview!
Glad you loved it Simon!
I'm glad this was in my UA-cam recommendations ❤️
Wonderful interview. Grateful practitioner of meditation (and namely the technique of TM) for almost 5 years now. He is speaking truth!
Also you don’t need to pay for a mantra but it does help to be taught be an official teacher but for some it also isn’t necessary, I learned and was given my mantra by my spirit guides and his idea of writing things and ideas down, as a writer it’s so true. I use voice memos and notes and small journal pads for my writing.
Everyone has their own habits and there’s only one DAVID LYNCH so be the only YOU there is in the universe, and currently that’s You, so, Let’s Rock!
What a wonderful meaningful interview. Thank you so much for this. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thank you for the interview.
Thank you Mr. Lynch, for being an outsider artist, so to speak, for being uncomprimising.
I as an artist, need examples of artist who truly challenge the outside of the outside of expectation.
I also appreciate your comments on meditation.
Also DUNE rocks.
They just weren't ready for it.
Much LoVE
thank you for conversation. it was very interesting. meditation is a really great thing!
It really is!
This is my 7th time watching this and it gets better every time! Loves from Japan!!!
I feel blessed to understand what he's saying, through my own personal experience. Although I didn't meditate to reach this state, but I found this inner alignment through my spiritual awakening journey. I wonder what amazing things could happen if i actually started meditating ..lol
This interview is a great find! As a highly creative person and someone who is prone to anxiety and have tried meditating in the past with truly zero results I've been looking for something that might work for me. So, as a big fan of David I learned some years ago that he was an advocate of TM but in recent times I feel it's something I need in my life & as David is someone that has always felt like a true kindred spirit & a voice of trust I decided to dig a bit deeper into his world. I came across a 16 minute video where for once I got a brilliant explanation of the mechanics of the process & how the unified field is strongly tied in with TM. So, I have been attempting TM for the past week with varying results, no true transcendence or anything but at times a feeling of calm and a brighter mood [My thoughts still very intrusive] So far for me that only true escape for my over active mind has been during my creative processes, where my sense of time & space seem to dissolve which I imagine that TM must be similar. Anyway, I'll keep practising & maybe one day it will click with me. Btw, your story at the end was amazing & you two seemed to be so much at ease with each other. Thank you.
love you David Lynch! i'm the same on the cofffee/cigarettes and meditation! xxxx
this is the greatest advertisement for TM i'm seen
Great interview!!!
Thanks Murad. Glad you enjoyed it!
I love it
I meditate once a day usually
I started to meditate in 1975
Very simple
Sometimes I just lie in bed and meditate before getting up
Love to regularly do it twice a day again
Coffee, cigarettes and meditation. Genius.
Glad you enjoyed it, Liliana!
I was looking for something on Adobe Indesign, but UA-cam knows me better than that. Somehow I hopped into these 41 inspirational minutes. Thank you for posting this, Susie. David always draws me in and inspires me, and your story added to it greatly.
Wonderful Jessi. Glad you enjoyed it. What a conversation this is!
Amazing interview Suzie. Love to see more people like David in the future.
I look forward to the day when educators recognize the importance of integrating meditation into our daily curriculum starting in kindergarten.
Wow.
love it! Im a coffee fan
Happier and more energy. Sounds great!
I pray this way of meditation helps me😇tysm
You are both so inspirational. Thank you David and Susie.🦋
Thanks so much Wild!
Such a legend.
Thank you 🍃🌸🍃
Thank you for sharing... both of you.
Your a nice person david.
Wow,
Incredible story Susie - about your cancer recovery
Thank you for sharing ! X
Thanks Adam. Glad you enjoyed listening : )
Lovely to share this with us, thank you
Susie, thank you for the great interview and your excellent questions. I think David thoroughly enjoyed talking with you. Sympatico!
I think the hardest thing for me about mediation is just showing up to fish on a regular basis. I love the power of the fishing process, but often fail to just damn well sit and fish. But when I have, even for just a few minutes, I've found that I look at the world differently. I remember when I was meditating for just short periods each day - perhaps just 3 minutes - the power of it influenced how I saw the world move in front of me.
One day during my more faithful mediation period, I found myself sitting at a long stoplight in rush hour traffic. Having grown up in Boston where driving is a contact sport, I would normally be impatient at stoplights and bottlenecked traffic. But this day I decided to be mindful and meditate a bit while I waited for things to sort out and start moving. I sat in my car, and objectively listened to my motor hum and watched cars pass, turn, suspending any judgement, anticipation, anxiety or thoughts about why they didn't turn this way or that. I became aware of this beautiful symphony or randomness, which unfolded before me without any prodding or effort on my part. My usual impatience and frustration with people moving too slowly or indecision just fell away. Instead of feeling disorder and chaos at the light, I felt bliss with the random order - a movie of sorts unfolding in front of me.
As I describe this, I feel it now. I can feel the subconscious being able to lift its head up from underneath the cover of the judging mind, which is after all, so often overactive in today's world. To be at my creative best is to be able to get back to child's mind and the first impressions of the world as though you are experiencing them for the first time. This is the beauty of which I feel David speaks. The only difficult thing is just remembering to go sit quietly and fish. If one does JUST that one thing on a regular basis, the natural world provides a symphony.
Yes George, it is about getting a healthy daily routine and remembering to show up regularly to sit quietly and wait for the fish. When I show up to this, i find i get lucky and life goes smoothly. Funny that... :)
Yes it takes discipline to show up daily, but so worth it
susie, thanks again for your great insights.
@@georgefulton8152 Thanks for being there George ;)
Smoking on yt almost looks as spectacular as nudity at this point.
I never understood the aesthetics of smoking. It doesn't look good to me. And it certainly doesn't smell good.
L-L-L-L-Look at you, GAMER
@@AndreasDevig Thank you for sharing this. Smoking looks very glamorous to me. It's been roughly half my life lighting those butters, and now I'm on my 2nd week out. The road is icky and full of bullshit. But it is very tempting and good looking... just fucking programs
@@TheKer7
Stay strong, brother. You can do it.
Kert Mõttus I encourage you to continue also! I smoked 2 packs a day starting at 15 years old as a troubled teen and fluctuated the amounts through my life and through divorce. I finally quit for good about 15-18 yrs ago. (Sorry my memory’s not as good as David Lunch’s, haha). After quitting, when I’d drive by bars and see ppl outside smoking, I was so happy that I didn’t have to have one in my hand and at my mouth. It seriously feels like a ball and chain has dropped off of me! We are no longer enslaved to IT! Keep on brother, I really hope this encourages you! Xx 💖
Love it tm 4 everyone b such a beautiful world 💚
Love TM. Helps me make good records.
it sure does - A Drive :)