Wrong history. Ukraine was never a country. Kievan Rus is group of all Slav. Nowadays Ukraine was namely the cossacks. The name Ukraine occured very late in the history only. Russiam, Belarus and Ukraine in general simply share the same history. The real independent Ukraine occurs only in 1991
Kiev was attacked and subjugated by Mongol Empire, which led to the center of power shifting to Moscow (later, the Romanov dynasty, Ivan the Terrible, Peter and Catherine the Great, etc). Now, after Mongol power subsided, the area was filled in by other people, with a mix of Slavic, Polish, Tartar, Cossack, etc. Here emerges an identity known as "Ruthenes" who speaks the Ukraine language. (Correct me if I'm wrong, this is my understanding). In other words, if the Rus people view the Mongol invasion as "unjust", then indeed, Kiev should have belonged to them, and the later Ukrainian people merely "filled in" the space left behind by the unjust invaders. This is very much the same logic as Jewish Zionism --- the Roman Empire drove out Jews to a two-thousand-year diaspora, and now they're trying to claim back the "promised" land. But we overlooked the fact that Kievan Rus were also people who came from Scandinavia and invaded the land around Kiev. Likewise, the Jews were also outsiders who invaded Jerusalem, according to the Old Testament -- their own account. Even if the Bible could be fictional, we can be almost certain that Jews had seized the land from earlier settlers. In both cases, the historical record created an obsession in the minds of people, whereas the lack of historical records saved us from such obsessions. Land is vital for human survival and has always been fought over, even at the expense of human lives. I'm not saying I have the final answer, but by clarifying the historical context we may get closer to better solutions. The solution never exists in the past, it exists in the future. But we have to look into the past to figure out the future.
@@edmundedmund9248 honestly I am tired with most Hong Kong youtuber. They have not studied hostory carefully and then just talking BS to gain more likes only
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一年前講既野，今日2022年開戰了。
多謝分析！
谢谢分享。
我愛看 蕭大師笑。每次看他笑 我都會很開心。蕭大師是快樂的人。
65 歲，蕭生變成一個寬容，可愛嘅智者🙂
ThAnks SiuHK
香港人,加油
翻旧片看。谢谢萧生
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支持
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烏克蘭係 1991 年獨立。唔係 2010 年喎。後期處理可以標註字幕更正提示。
是否有個新的謎米香港
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👍☑️🏻✌💪 好人一生平安❤️
蕭生可否不要再時常讀錯普京作普丁，聽得好唔舒服
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有一個頻道同你呢個一模一樣，係咩回事呀請問？
是偷片，請report 佢地。
正版有746 K subscriber.
@sum loo
不需理會假嘢,就算找也立刻report佢
hi
字幕呢？這條片沒有字幕啊！
肖生口誤了，基輔公國的大公戰敗被俘而死於車輪之刑的戰爭敵手是蒙古不是羅馬
抜都..仁慈的沙皇!
蕭生係經常口誤，你識先知佢講錯。
He said Roman but mentioned Mongol on subtitle
克魯小夫是烏克蘭人
蕭生你的UA-cam channel 好似被hacked, 我发現竟然有两个謎米台
ua-cam.com/channels/4RdoZfRtu_6VdjtVE3tyLQ.htmlfeatured
就係呢個吧
@@jimrogers3776
有腦的都識分真假,小粉紅白廢心機
Kiev 被 蒙古帝國入侵，導致 俄羅斯人的權力中心 shift 咗去 Moscow (之後發展成 Romanov 王朝，亦即 Ivan the Terrible, Peter and Catherine the Great, etc). 當蒙古帝國離開之後，原本 Kiev 的地方被其他人侵佔，包括 Polish, Slavic, Tartar (有土耳其血統), Cossack, 等。 這些人的混合組成 Ruthenes 也就是講 Ukraine 語言的民族起源。 （如有錯誤請糾正，這是我的理解。）
換句話說，在 Rus 人眼中，蒙古人是不正義的入侵者，所以 Kiev 應該仍然屬於他們的。 而其後的 Ukraine 人只是佔領了從蒙古人撤退之後的空間。 這種邏輯跟 猶太人的以色列復國主義是一樣的 --- 猶太人被羅馬帝國逐出以色列，開始了兩千年的流亡，現在要重新佔領他們的 “promised land".
但我們忽略了，Kiev 其實也是 Rus 人侵略別人的土地，他們來自 Finland 等地。 類似地，猶太人，身為奴隸逃出了埃及，而戰勝了當時的以色列原居民 --- 這是他們自己的舊約聖經的說法。 就算聖經是虛構，我們也基本上可以肯定，猶太人曾經侵佔了以色列更早的定居者。
所以，正因為有歷史記錄，有些人對於他們祖先的土地，會有某種「偏執狂」。
土地向來是人類激烈爭奪的資源。 我沒有終極的答案，但我相信將歷史釐清是會幫助我們尋找更好的解決方案。 我覺得答案不會在歷史裏面，而是存在於未來。 如果淨係睇歷史，我們只會學到 曹操 劉備 那些東西。 歷史不可以不看，但答案並不完全在歷史裏面。
萧生！我天天都看你的视频！我是youtube看到！但是我也发现你的视频还有多一个新台吗？上次看到memehongkong2！现在又出现一个没有2的，和你视频好像一模一样的。我想知道那个是真的视频台还是假的！谢谢萧生，打扰了。
係蒙古唔係罗马。
萧生多讲俄罗斯既历史。
6:27 shaking :)
歷史上，烏克蘭 第一次獨立 是在 16－17 世紀。 當時 Cossacks 的遊牧民族 出現了一個領袖 Bohdan Khmelnytsky 帶領 烏克蘭人獨立，但佢後來同俄羅斯沙皇簽署和約，結果烏克蘭被俄國支配。 現在烏克蘭人視他為民族英雄，但亦因為他簽署的和約，在後世備受爭議。
蕭生有人copy你channel
你東西不分，俄国在東，不是西斯拉
史太林捉晒反抗集體制嘅地主，送去西伯利亞
因為識種田的人冇咗加埋高稅率，結果死咗好多人
制度很重要！能夠善用貪婪人性加上法治，社會才能進步，創新！
羅馬大軍是蒙古大軍吧
口誤
基輔羅斯
莫斯科在基辅东面
俄羅斯入埋欧盟/北约不是一天光晒嗎？他們根本就是老表關係。
美國做到公平、民主、自由，前提喺，GDP唔可以超過美國一半，綜合國力特別喺軍事、高科技唔可以脫離美國主導。俄羅斯、日本、德國，就喺樣板。
蘇聯解體后，已經 全面西化，普丁三次申請加入北約，結果點？
北约是冷战时代产物，过时了。 北约本身就代表了美国利益，在全球化过程中必然要被淘汰。
@@cs-en2um 北約所有成員國都要遵守同一部北約規章，沒有例外。(不似華約成員國都要聽前蘇聯指揮)
#要做老大做話事人確實入不了北約。(法國就曾彈出彈入)
係北京不是莫斯科奧運
俄羅斯人祖先=歐洲版吳三桂
蘇聯解體后，已經 全面西化，普丁三次申請加入北約，結果點？
若俄國消失，歐盟唔再需要美國
一個無限連任的總統叫西化？
If you can't beat them join them
萧生讲漏咗口：唔係「罗马帝国」打 Kiev，而係「蒙古帝国」打 Kiev……
將蒙古當咗羅馬😢
台灣蛋卷😅
见到一个假的迷迷新闻台。ᥬ😂᭄
........基輔羅斯不是烏克蘭，烏克蘭和俄羅斯都是這個古國的分支而已，燒山你個港大歷史學位點得來架？
俄羅斯自古以來都係烏克蘭不可分隔嘅一部分，亮劍💪
2010審1935年事件😂
中國係蒙古帝國故有領土😆
美國的土地以前都是屬於印第安人的~~哈哈
Wrong history. Ukraine was never a country. Kievan Rus is group of all Slav. Nowadays Ukraine was namely the cossacks. The name Ukraine occured very late in the history only. Russiam, Belarus and Ukraine in general simply share the same history. The real independent Ukraine occurs only in 1991
Kiev was attacked and subjugated by Mongol Empire, which led to the center of power shifting to Moscow (later, the Romanov dynasty, Ivan the Terrible, Peter and Catherine the Great, etc). Now, after Mongol power subsided, the area was filled in by other people, with a mix of Slavic, Polish, Tartar, Cossack, etc. Here emerges an identity known as "Ruthenes" who speaks the Ukraine language. (Correct me if I'm wrong, this is my understanding).
In other words, if the Rus people view the Mongol invasion as "unjust", then indeed, Kiev should have belonged to them, and the later Ukrainian people merely "filled in" the space left behind by the unjust invaders. This is very much the same logic as Jewish Zionism --- the Roman Empire drove out Jews to a two-thousand-year diaspora, and now they're trying to claim back the "promised" land.
But we overlooked the fact that Kievan Rus were also people who came from Scandinavia and invaded the land around Kiev. Likewise, the Jews were also outsiders who invaded Jerusalem, according to the Old Testament -- their own account. Even if the Bible could be fictional, we can be almost certain that Jews had seized the land from earlier settlers.
In both cases, the historical record created an obsession in the minds of people, whereas the lack of historical records saved us from such obsessions.
Land is vital for human survival and has always been fought over, even at the expense of human lives. I'm not saying I have the final answer, but by clarifying the historical context we may get closer to better solutions. The solution never exists in the past, it exists in the future. But we have to look into the past to figure out the future.
@@CyberneticOrganism01 very well said bro!
Good job!
Never mind the topic! This guy is nonsense as always!
@@edmundedmund9248 honestly I am tired with most Hong Kong youtuber. They have not studied hostory carefully and then just talking BS to gain more likes only
@@saeedtuoba1408 Your totally right! This guy is popular idiot and nonsense in HK. We are shame on him.
Xie
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