List of contuctors: 1:20, Carlos Kleiber with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra 4:28, Riccardo Muti 7:29, Richard Strauss 9:08, Herbert von Karajan 11:57, Carlos Kleiber 14:24, Carlos Kleiber 17:17, Leonard Bernstein 19:27, Leonard Bernstein
I got more out of this 20 minute presentation than I did in my conducting class. This is interesting, informative and inspiring, if only all professors can teach like this.
Fantastic! Unbelievable how tere are so many peoplethat are ignorant and insensitive , unable to understand and feel the beauty of art...The way that Itay Talgam puts everything is incredibly simple and accessible! Love that all!Congrats
Love the idea of the happiness coming not from the conductor and his story as well as all the stories involved even those of the building, they all make the experience what it is.
I'm starting to get that conducting isn't so much about a single action controlling a few notes but the whole motion of the conductor sending a single message to the group that informs their performance together. That's a completely new concept for me.
Thank you so much for this ... these are CONDUCTORS, not dictators ... this was a wonderful lesson on leading highly competent people who are not chattel, not subordinates ... equally skilled people in different roles working in collaboration, with one with the responsibility of conducting the rest to where they all must go ... as a choir director and educator in a country that has so many people wanting to revert to domineering, to authoritarianism, this was refreshing and encouraging ... in Kleiber and Bernstein I also see what I strive toward in giving everything, freeheartedly ... joy, pain, motion ... and without fail, that opens the door for other singers and musicians to do the same!
absolutely and utterly superb! I love it when I put off watching a TED talk because the title doesn't immediately capture my interest, but then when I watch it I'm rapt the whole time. Very cool topic and great ending. A favorite of mine now.
La dirección por Itay Talgam La dirección no solamente se lleva de los músicos al director, si no como dice Itay Talgam, ¿la ovación?, ¿los aplausos para quien son?, entonces desde una perspectiva de conjunto la dirección viene desde el principio mismo de la construcción de un escenario, el trabajo y la dedicación de cada integrante de la orquesta en conjunto, como también el trabajo que se realiza en el salón de ensayo. Entonces la supremacía del trabajo en conjunto es contar las historias individuales, y el cuerpo de que mantiene en movimiento estas historias es la orquesta, y la comunidad que escucha o la sociedad receptiva es el público, contar las historias que no se ven son también importantes, la sala de teatro los instrumentos, como antes dicho son importantes en su conjunto y camaradería en conjunto para que el cuerpo de la orquesta exprese, esta es la verdadera experiencia de vida en la orquesta expresar estas historias. Ricardo Muti tiene una dirección más clara que no cabe en otras interpretaciones, sino que es en su dirección lo representa claro. Richard Strauss a la edad de 30 años escribió los diez mandamientos para los directores dos de ellos, en una manera satírica, dice: si sudas al final del concierto es porque has hecho algo mal, y el cuarto nunca mires a los trombones esto siempre los anima. Herbert Von Karajan a ojos cerrados dirige la orquesta pero los movimientos de las manos es más fluido, en este caso en particular delimita la dirección a los concertinos y encargados de sección, esto hace que todos en la orquesta se escuchen, dando una dirección no tan clara pero escuchándose entre sí, mientras que en su conjunto se exprese esas historias. En el particular caso del director, toma una postura no tan clara, pero no mal entiendan esto no está mal, esto lo hace para beneficio del oyente, en palabras textuales dice: que la peor cosa que podría darle a mi orquesta es darles una dirección clara porque esto impediría la unión, escucharse unos a otros, lo cual se necesita en una orquesta. Carlos Kleiber el lenguaje corporal mayormente importante que una cuenta de compases simplista, la expresión y dirección llevada de la mano con la expresión corporal derrochando así una capa extra de expresión a la orquesta, pero la autoridad no está peleada con este tipo de dirección, ya que si tiene que corregir un segmento no concreto está allí la autoridad que corrige rápida y efectivamente. En el momento en que todos estos procesos se consolidan, llega como figura de director un narrador contado y expresando esa historia. Con solo la gesticulación de la cara se puede dirigir, e allí el verdadero sentido de la dirección, y el verdadero ser de un director, que en su afán de trasmitir, de narrar lo que es el universo, lo contiene en si para expresarlo conjunto a la orquesta en una íntima sala de conciertos, solo figurando el narrador, el cuerpo y la comunidad. Escrito por: Roberto Ibarra Macedo.
I was totally inspired by your TED talk. I love the topic of leadership and conducting, but have long been frustrated that people who talk about leadership don't know anything about conducting. I recently had the honor and privilege of presenting at TEDx in Santa Barbara and gave a talk called "Breathing Together - Leadership Lessons from Musical Ensembles" - hope you find it interesting. For some reason I can't put the link in here but you can find it by searching for the title.
this video sent me ones a teacher from MBA studies, in fact great inspiring and wise man, we had HR lectures with him, its couple of years now, but still
A very pleasant ,informative and even in-depth presentation of the phenomenon of leading the orchestra. Bravo and thanks. The choice of the examples is superb. Kleiber to my taste is utterly amazing . Great pleasure..
Great talk, Itay !! Wonderful perspective of these great conductors. And that Haydn 88 - just like old times at Tanglewood, for Lenny's 70th in 1988 !!! Tony
I wasn't really expecting much clicking on this video. I like some classical music, but I'm not that much into it. And conducters always seemed sa tad silly to me. But this was awesome. I got a whole new appreciation for this - and it was wonderfully told, with lots of love and humor. Another excellent TED talk. Thank you :)
I am so moved by this talk. Gems of wisdom: You start, when you can't stand it anymore. Notice - all orchestras made beautiful music. Look at each other and start playing :)
Talgam argues that the best orchestra leaders are those who encourage some those playing the instruments to add their own story to the play. Similarly, effective leaders encourage their juniors to participate in the organization's running and decision making process.
Since everyone speaks and writes English, what I have to say in English too I came here from the technological university of Peru (UTP), someone else? And I must admit that it is the first time that I liked a video of this type so much
Some good insight here, but also lot's of "opinion" because a conductor's mettle (as well as earning the respect of the musicians) occurs in rehearsals when issues such as articulation, phrasing, balance, bowing, tempi, etc. are sorted out in the process of attaining a cohesive and musical performance. Yes, gestures, demeanor and baton technique are important, but any given performance is the result of many decisions that occur during rehearsals.
and I definitely add it is easy to be free and "not commanding" with the Vienna Philharmonic or the Concertgebouw, with 6 rehearsals. And I LOVE Kleiber's or Bernstein's conducting styles. But it is easy. Do that with two rehearsals with a normal Province orchestra, then I will be with you. Karajan is IN CONTROL to obtain exaclty what is in his mind. He used many rehearsals as well only because he had a precise idea to realise. Why criticising him, when he was so perfect in achievement?
There is a terrific UA-cam video of Karajan rehearsing the opening bars of Robert Schumann's 4th symphony in which you can see how he attains the desired results. Not all conductors will agree with his tastes and decisions, but it's a fascinating study, nonetheless.
Good point regarding the quality of an orchestra. The Vienna Phil. is not going to need much in the way of instruction when they are playing Haydn or Brahms.
On the one hand, rather inspiring. On the other hand, I completely agree with PUCCINIMUSICK's opinion: Do that with two rehearsals with a normal Province orchestra and I will be with you too.
Fantastic! But what we are forgetting here is the importance of the baton. I think of Von Karajan's Martinetti and Valsecchi Baton's. Of Andrè Previn's particular 'penchant' for the flimsy Nakamura batons. Tan Dun wouldn't TOUCH a Nakamura. He claimed they are "cheap and flimsy". Much of Von K's strength and appeal was due to his cherished Italian batons, let's not forget!
Can anyone help me? The description says there are six great conductors in the video, but I only see the names of five! What is the name of the sixth conductor??
List of contuctors:
1:20, Carlos Kleiber with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
4:28, Riccardo Muti
7:29, Richard Strauss
9:08, Herbert von Karajan
11:57, Carlos Kleiber
14:24, Carlos Kleiber
17:17, Leonard Bernstein
19:27, Leonard Bernstein
thank you. i had to watch this video for a project for school and now i haven't
Thank you, this helped with my conducting II video assignment
Uhhh can anybody tell me the name of the piece at 1: 20
Radetzky March - Johann Strauss Sr
@@orquestras.a.imaestroentre494 Thank you
This is one of the few TED talks that i replayed.
Love, love, love this! As Kleiber is the ultimate conductor to me, it was gratifying to have him shown! The presenter did a fantastic job.
I got more out of this 20 minute presentation than I did in my conducting class. This is interesting, informative and inspiring, if only all professors can teach like this.
Fantastic! Unbelievable how tere are so many peoplethat are ignorant and insensitive , unable to understand and feel the beauty of art...The way that Itay Talgam puts everything is incredibly simple and accessible! Love that all!Congrats
I really like the statement (at 16:57) that "control is not a zero-sum game [in leadership]"
This is a great man with natural talents in his presentations and music lead demonstations..
Also shows that there are almost so many types of leadership as leaders ... and a lot of them can be very effective
One of my favorite TED talks ever.
This is one of the best examples of different leadership types.
I came here through the FGV course...
What a pleasure it is to see people at their best. This talk is the perfect example of excellence. I love it.
"If you love something, give it away."
19:22-20:31
If you love something, give it a way :)
Love the idea of the happiness coming not from the conductor and his story as well as all the stories involved even those of the building, they all make the experience what it is.
Yes ... this wonderful meeting of all the love and joy and stories in that building ... all those people, being "conducted" in that!
이 영상을 몇 번 보는지 모르겠네요. 좋은 강연 감사합니다.
한국어다! 자막있는 영상이 있으면 좋겠네요 ㅠㅠ
loved it !! another great TED talk :). I hope all TED chats had about the same deepness.Beautifully conducted!!.
Wow ! Great insight. I noticed even while speaking to the audience his hand gesture were as though he was conducting too😊
I'm starting to get that conducting isn't so much about a single action controlling a few notes but the whole motion of the conductor sending a single message to the group that informs their performance together. That's a completely new concept for me.
Wonderful, can't express really what an amazing speech it was to me!
I listened to him in a congress last days, he is remarkable.
The best lecture... So joyful and charming... Great job, Itay!
Prachtig! Mooie voorbeelden, aanschouwlijk, hartelijk, zinnig🙏🏼
Thank you so much for this ... these are CONDUCTORS, not dictators ... this was a wonderful lesson on leading highly competent people who are not chattel, not subordinates ... equally skilled people in different roles working in collaboration, with one with the responsibility of conducting the rest to where they all must go ... as a choir director and educator in a country that has so many people wanting to revert to domineering, to authoritarianism, this was refreshing and encouraging ... in Kleiber and Bernstein I also see what I strive toward in giving everything, freeheartedly ... joy, pain, motion ... and without fail, that opens the door for other singers and musicians to do the same!
absolutely and utterly superb! I love it when I put off watching a TED talk because the title doesn't immediately capture my interest, but then when I watch it I'm rapt the whole time.
Very cool topic and great ending. A favorite of mine now.
This is an incredible video, as an aspiring professional conductor/musician this video is an incredible resource. Thank you
La dirección por Itay Talgam
La dirección no solamente se lleva de los músicos al director, si no como dice Itay Talgam, ¿la ovación?, ¿los aplausos para quien son?, entonces desde una perspectiva de conjunto la dirección viene desde el principio mismo de la construcción de un escenario, el trabajo y la dedicación de cada integrante de la orquesta en conjunto, como también el trabajo que se realiza en el salón de ensayo.
Entonces la supremacía del trabajo en conjunto es contar las historias individuales, y el cuerpo de que mantiene en movimiento estas historias es la orquesta, y la comunidad que escucha o la sociedad receptiva es el público, contar las historias que no se ven son también importantes, la sala de teatro los instrumentos, como antes dicho son importantes en su conjunto y camaradería en conjunto para que el cuerpo de la orquesta exprese, esta es la verdadera experiencia de vida en la orquesta expresar estas historias.
Ricardo Muti tiene una dirección más clara que no cabe en otras interpretaciones, sino que es en su dirección lo representa claro.
Richard Strauss a la edad de 30 años escribió los diez mandamientos para los directores dos de ellos, en una manera satírica, dice: si sudas al final del concierto es porque has hecho algo mal, y el cuarto nunca mires a los trombones esto siempre los anima.
Herbert Von Karajan a ojos cerrados dirige la orquesta pero los movimientos de las manos es más fluido, en este caso en particular delimita la dirección a los concertinos y encargados de sección, esto hace que todos en la orquesta se escuchen, dando una dirección no tan clara pero escuchándose entre sí, mientras que en su conjunto se exprese esas historias. En el particular caso del director, toma una postura no tan clara, pero no mal entiendan esto no está mal, esto lo hace para beneficio del oyente, en palabras textuales dice: que la peor cosa que podría darle a mi orquesta es darles una dirección clara porque esto impediría la unión, escucharse unos a otros, lo cual se necesita en una orquesta.
Carlos Kleiber el lenguaje corporal mayormente importante que una cuenta de compases simplista, la expresión y dirección llevada de la mano con la expresión corporal derrochando así una capa extra de expresión a la orquesta, pero la autoridad no está peleada con este tipo de dirección, ya que si tiene que corregir un segmento no concreto está allí la autoridad que corrige rápida y efectivamente.
En el momento en que todos estos procesos se consolidan, llega como figura de director un narrador contado y expresando esa historia.
Con solo la gesticulación de la cara se puede dirigir, e allí el verdadero sentido de la dirección, y el verdadero ser de un director, que en su afán de trasmitir, de narrar lo que es el universo, lo contiene en si para expresarlo conjunto a la orquesta en una íntima sala de conciertos, solo figurando el narrador, el cuerpo y la comunidad.
Escrito por: Roberto Ibarra Macedo.
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This was a wonderful, fresh and unexpected take on leadership! Perfect for the music lover: )
I was totally inspired by your TED talk. I love the topic of leadership and conducting, but have long been frustrated that people who talk about leadership don't know anything about conducting. I recently had the honor and privilege of presenting at TEDx in Santa Barbara and gave a talk called "Breathing Together - Leadership Lessons from Musical Ensembles" - hope you find it interesting. For some reason I can't put the link in here but you can find it by searching for the title.
12:31 I love this, when the cundoctor feels it
this video sent me ones a teacher from MBA studies, in fact great inspiring and wise man, we had HR lectures with him, its couple of years now, but still
Same. Thts y I am watching in 2021
I can’t stop myself watching this talk over and over again
A very pleasant ,informative and even in-depth presentation of the phenomenon of leading the orchestra. Bravo and thanks.
The choice of the examples is superb.
Kleiber to my taste is utterly amazing . Great pleasure..
Thanks @TED for excellent video, i watching this video again and again, also sharing with my colleagues.
Great talk, Itay !! Wonderful perspective of these great conductors. And that Haydn 88 - just like old times at Tanglewood, for Lenny's 70th in 1988 !!! Tony
Great comparison between leadership styles
I wasn't really expecting much clicking on this video. I like some classical music, but I'm not that much into it. And conducters always seemed sa tad silly to me.
But this was awesome. I got a whole new appreciation for this - and it was wonderfully told, with lots of love and humor.
Another excellent TED talk. Thank you :)
I am so moved by this talk. Gems of wisdom: You start, when you can't stand it anymore. Notice - all orchestras made beautiful music.
Look at each other and start playing :)
What he says about the audiences in Vienna is so true. You can't cough without getting very dirty looks from your neighbours.
This was excellent. So enjoyable.
Talgam argues that the best orchestra leaders are those who encourage some those playing the instruments to add their own story to the play. Similarly, effective leaders encourage their juniors to participate in the organization's running and decision making process.
@Maestroholic
Thanks for the list of music played. The second clip is Mozart, the overture to the opera Don giovani.
Simplesmente maravilhoso
La conduite au service du développement artistique de tous....
2nd is Don Giovanni ouverture by Mozart of course
言葉がない。完璧です。
Since everyone speaks and writes English, what I have to say in English too
I came here from the technological university of Peru (UTP), someone else?
And I must admit that it is the first time that I liked a video of this type so much
Magnificent talk, wonderful music!
What an amazing talk
Some good insight here, but also lot's of "opinion" because a conductor's mettle (as well as earning the respect of the musicians) occurs in rehearsals when issues such as articulation, phrasing, balance, bowing, tempi, etc. are sorted out in the process of attaining a cohesive and musical performance. Yes, gestures, demeanor and baton technique are important, but any given performance is the result of many decisions that occur during rehearsals.
The second clip is the overture to Don Giovanni by Mozart.
@Maestroholic -- the second clip is Mozart's Don Giovanni overture
Video #2 is the Overture to Don Giovanni, K. 527 by W. A. Mozart
The second piece is the Overture to Don Giovanni-Mozart
and I definitely add it is easy to be free and "not commanding" with the Vienna Philharmonic or the Concertgebouw, with 6 rehearsals. And I LOVE Kleiber's or Bernstein's conducting styles. But it is easy. Do that with two rehearsals with a normal Province orchestra, then I will be with you. Karajan is IN CONTROL to obtain exaclty what is in his mind. He used many rehearsals as well only because he had a precise idea to realise. Why criticising him, when he was so perfect in achievement?
loved it !! another great TED talk :)
Excellent.
There is a terrific UA-cam video of Karajan rehearsing the opening bars of Robert Schumann's 4th symphony in which you can see how he attains the desired results. Not all conductors will agree with his tastes and decisions, but it's a fascinating study, nonetheless.
Good point regarding the quality of an orchestra. The Vienna Phil. is not going to need much in the way of instruction when they are playing Haydn or Brahms.
#2 4:30 is Don Giovanni Ouverture
It's joy. Joy doesn't classify.
Thank-you!
First one is Carlos Kleiber, and last one Leonard Bernstein.
Watching Karajan conduct Beethoven is breath-taking.
@Maestroholic hey there, the 4:30 was MOZART (wow, surprisingly dark eh) Overture to Don Giovanni.
8:07 Valery Gergiev: "Am I a joke to you?"
Love this guy!
Napakagaling
I actually stopped watching this for a couple minutes to watch Rowan Atkinson conduct... Brilliant!
@stephenetienne a conductor is just a role on the participatorily created roller coaster. #TLCC
superb!
#2 is from Mozart's opera Don Giovanni - it's the start of the final scene where Don G gets dragged down to hell
Well, it's the overture but never mind.
that was great!
What was exactly wrong about the trumpet player at 14:24? Seems just the same for my ears
I think the first time the trumpet player plays the second note of the phrase too flat. Then plays it right on the next two.
@Maestroholic I believe its Don Giovanni by Mozart.
14:40 My favorite part~ how to chastisize a player~
すごいおもしろい！！
That was good, I liked that.
What is the music Bernstein is conducting at the end of this wonderful talk?
+Shantanu Goyal what was the other work Bernstein conducted?
Gustav Mahler, Symphony #10.
@Maestroholic at 4.30 its mozart: don giovanni - overture
On the one hand, rather inspiring. On the other hand, I completely agree with PUCCINIMUSICK's opinion: Do that with two rehearsals with a normal Province orchestra and I will be with you too.
I think is a Haydn symphony, Sorry but being so many I dont remember perfectly well by their numbers.
Que aula memorável, eterna, alienígena de tão gostosa, saborosa, um alimento para alma. Agradecido (São Paulo - Brasil) OSS
great !!!!
great
9:06 von Karajan was Austrian.
Very enjoyable. :)
Sorry about that, I don' think he said it but there is a small text to the right that says Mezzo, maybe he is called Mezzo?
Awesome! Who was the last conductor shown?
it's a shame there is no mention of Furtwangler
Cuidadito que te escuché 14:40
The musicians never looked to me like they needed the conductor.
Fantastic!
But what we are forgetting here is the importance of the baton. I think of Von Karajan's Martinetti and Valsecchi Baton's. Of Andrè Previn's particular 'penchant' for the flimsy Nakamura batons. Tan Dun wouldn't TOUCH a Nakamura. He claimed they are "cheap and flimsy".
Much of Von K's strength and appeal was due to his cherished Italian batons, let's not forget!
Not forgetting Gergiev’s toothpick, of course...
@planetdarwin Insightful. The musicians may not need a conductor. Do they contribute anything? #TLCC
@Maestroholic 4:30 Mozart Don Giovanni Ouverture
Can anyone help me?
The description says there are six great conductors in the video, but I only see the names of five!
What is the name of the sixth conductor??
@SuperHellbone Note the title: LEAD like the great conductors.
Does anyone know / can anyone hear what the trumpet player did wrong?
Exactly what I want to know. I could see the conductor's frustration but I couldn't hear the mistake.
I'm not sure but I think the trumpet player was a bit flat on the second note of that phrase. Second and third time he played the phrase it was good.
@Maestroholic #2 is Mozart, don Giovanni, Overture
@piotrezzz Luckily Berstein was a show off so we can see what is really going on in the great clip that Talgam wraps up with.
what song is that last one? very beautiful
Mahler symphony 10!