I highly urge you to give it a try! It can be relaxing and rewarding. it can also cause a little pain in the hands, so take frequent breaks. Thanks for watching!
Looks good. I shot a video showing how to swap those out. I practiced before shooting the video so I didn't make myself look like a total tool. I had to do a swap weeks later for another video and was kinda fumbling about on camera. I think part of it is getting the muscle memory, but it is also breaking in the gun and spare cylinders.
Awesome job Sir! Your creation looks pretty authentic to me. You have me hooked on your channel, can't wait to tell my friends about you! Can't wait to see another one! Cheers from Texas!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I saw that one too. It was actually the first video I saw on here in the past, while looking for inspiration for holster making of my own.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Yes!...and a Quigley Scabbard would really compliment my Hawken rifle...just need to get to Billings and pick up some leather...thanks amigo!
Nice! looks like a fun project. I looked at the spare cylinder pouches and it appears the pouches are made with one strip of leather a little taller than 1/2 the belt height. It also looks like they used spring metal clamps to hold it to the belt. I think it starts pulling off when he pulls out the cylinder and he has to change direction to keep it attached to the belt. It also looks like they are moving cock-eyed against the belt. But that's just my guess.
One thing, though - all the guns in Pale Rider are cartridge conversions, and presumably that was done to allow the use of blanks, which was problematic in cap and ball revolvers, but they were supposed to play regular cap and ball revolvers in the film.
You are correct! I have both BP and Cartridge Conversions with the exception of his 1858 Remington Pocket he tucked in his belt. His Remington Pocket, was .31 and had a trigger guard, everything I've found has a spur trigger. The same was done in the "Dollars Trilogy" movies. Thanks for watching!
The only suggest I could make is to sew a 1/2" of leather thong to the belt laterally where the cylinder would rest against it. I doubt you would even see it with the cylinders loaded in the belt. I had to sew a weld of leather under a row of loops to support .45 ACP rounds. It works well and I can run. 45 Colt rounds over it if necessary (the gun has two caliber cylinders). Too bad the cylinder holder didn't just slide on the belt so you could just cut a leg that sewed on the bottom as support like modern speedloaders. Great job.
Great video, Pale rider is one of my favorite westerns to watch, you did a great job on that rig, also can you tell me what spool of thread you are using? is that the Tandy 8oz spool of teja wax thread? or some other brand, Thank you
They do make metallic cartridge cylinders for this revolver. I don't have any because they each cost just as much as the revolver. The movie used metallic cartridges because they are easily loaded as blanks for safety. Also carrying a loaded and capped, cap and ball cylinder is pretty dangerous. If they fall and hit a cap, they can go off.
I am quite impressed with your craftsmanship. Roughly how long did it take you, in terms of your labor? I am guessing the drying added a few days to the project. Do you have a video that shows how you did the stitching in some detail? Thanks again for your video!
Thank you! I worked on it a total of 3 days BUT, in those 3 days there were two holsters made. I did not like the way the first one fit the pistol. I cut 4 belt blanks until I found one I could use. I had to do my normal duties around the house too. Drying is usually overnight depending on how late you get it wet and how early you get up! I haven't done a video on stitching but I might if there's enough interest. Thank you for watching!
That would still have been a tight fit. I made the holster loop fit pretty snug on the belt to minimize movement. I also wanted to make the stitches on the cylinder loops look more like the movie holster. Thanks for subscribing and thanks for watching!
Unfortunately, I do not. The holsters I make are for my UA-cam videos and to show people there is a hobby out there that can be enjoyed by everyone. I may get into making them for sale when I reach retirement. Thanks for watching !
A question. When you have the front drawn out on paper, how do you determine how much more leather is needed for the bend and the back of the holster? It looks like you simply did this using the paper, but wouldn't leather require more material because it is thicker?
Leather absolutely will require more. Sometimes it's just by experience, and I have ruined a few pieces of leather doing it. You get the hang of it after a few times. You can use a thin piece of leather strap, sort of like a ruler and check the length at different areas. I have also seen people use craft foam for their pattern, it's a little cheaper than leather and easier to work with. Wet molding also helps out a LOT! Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I'll be giving it a try here shortly. I'm much more comfortable with kydex, so I know what you mean about getting the hang of the material needed/used up by the forming. And if you noticed a lot of views on this video today... it was me. LOL@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
Hey I know I got a lot of questions but I just got done dying my project with the Feibings Light Brown dye and it sat over night but came out darker than I would’ve liked, did I put too much on it?
Maybe. It's really kind of hard to say though. Sometimes different pieces of leather will take the dye differently though. Dye needs to be put on evenly to get good results. Just remember, you can always go darker, but you can't go back. Ask all the questions you want! I might not always have the right answer, but I can let you know what I think.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Okay awesome thank you for the information! I’ll be making a new one for maybe tombstone with Val Kilmers Shoulder Holster soon or a Buffalo Bill Cody rig so I’ll let you know if I have any other concerns!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thank you for subscribing!! It means a great deal to me!! I’ll put a video short up of the Pale Rider gun rig when it’s done :)
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Okay thank you and a couple last questions, what color dye did you use for the belt? And what weight is the belt/ holster? Thanks!
The Dye for the belt was Fiebings Pro Dye, light brown. Black for the holster of course. as for the weight, I don't remember exactly, but I like to keep them to around 8oz.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview the 1861 navy was an open top, the gun used by Eastwood in Pale Rider was an 1861 new army conversion. I read an interesting article by the guy who made Clints rig for the picture. He states that a lot of people were calling the gun the Remington 1858 which of course there is no such pistol. That designation came along in the 1960s for some reason. Great video I really enjoyed it thank you.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview truewestmagazine.com/what-was-the-make-of-revolver-used-by-clint-eastwood-in-pale-rider/ This is not the full article, but a quote from it. I was surprised as I’d always thought that the 1858 was the year and name of the pistol. We live and learn. Thanks again
Do you make Western Rigs for sale ?? I have Colt SAA's 1st Gen .45 cal....I need a Left hand in Black to fit a 5.5 inch barrel with a cross draw for a 4.75 inch barrel.
Great looking rig. You need to market this.
I wish I had time to make and sell them. Thank you for watching!
I realize it's an old video, but that changes nothing. It's a beautiful holster and you have instilled within an old man to learn a new craft. TY
I highly urge you to give it a try! It can be relaxing and rewarding. it can also cause a little pain in the hands, so take frequent breaks. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the reply and the advice. I was just shopping for leather. TY@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
I thought you did a great job filming. Overhead camera work is well done! Love that holster!
I usually dye first, then do Gum Tragacanth.
Thanks Santee! I think that's the way I'll do it from now on.
That is one holster rig no one makes a replica of, and it is Clint's best western! Great job!
Thank you very much! Thank you for watching too!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview not to mention, you have a new subscriber . Great channel
@@ReverendBow Thanks, that is greatly appreciated!
Nice touch with grabbing the holster and tossing in the clergy collar.
Lol, Sort of like in the movie! I just didn't have a Safety Deposit box to throw it in. Thank you for watching!
Yup ive learned this lesson the hard way. I never edge burnish till after i dye leather now.
Yeah, it can cause problems if you burnish first. Thanks for watching!
pretty good for you're 1st. one.
Thanks!
What a cool rig .
Thank you!
You did an excellent job of the holster Richard , well done.
Thanks! It was a lot of work but it was fun!
One of my favorite movies. Great job on the rig!
Same here! Thank you!
Well made holster and very well filmed and described. I really enjoyed this excellent video.
Glad you enjoyed it! I have others and more on the way!
great job, look very cool, one of my favorite movies.
Thanks! Same here
Thank you, for a excellent job making the holster, & belt.
Thank you and thanks for watching too!
Looks good. I shot a video showing how to swap those out. I practiced before shooting the video so I didn't make myself look like a total tool. I had to do a swap weeks later for another video and was kinda fumbling about on camera. I think part of it is getting the muscle memory, but it is also breaking in the gun and spare cylinders.
I have no problem making mistakes on camera, that's a lot of my content! Lol. Thanks for watching Squib!
Beautiful workmanship.
Thank you very much!
Awesome job Sir! Your creation looks pretty authentic to me. You have me hooked on your channel, can't wait to tell my friends about you! Can't wait to see another one! Cheers from Texas!
Awesome! Thank you!
Outstanding work.
Many thanks!
Your Clint Eastwood style gunboats rigs are awesome! I would love to see you make another one from another Clint Eastwood western!
Thank you! I did do the holster from The Outlaw Josey Wales!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I saw that one too. It was actually the first video I saw on here in the past, while looking for inspiration for holster making of my own.
@@Stuingtion I have a few more planned, I'm just not sure when.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I look forward to seeing them when you create them!
Well done...iv'e been meaning to build a scabbard for my model 94...thanks for the nudge!...woods
Go for it! I need to build a couple myself. I'm thinking Quigley down under! Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Yes!...and a Quigley Scabbard would really compliment my Hawken rifle...just need to get to Billings and pick up some leather...thanks amigo!
@@MTwoodsrunner glad I could help! Lol, be safe and have fun!
Holster making is something I've been interested in but I don't think I have the patience for it.
It only gets difficult when you're trying to film it while you're making it! Lol! Thanks for watching!
Nice! looks like a fun project. I looked at the spare cylinder pouches and it appears the pouches are made with one strip of leather a little taller than 1/2 the belt height. It also looks like they used spring metal clamps to hold it to the belt. I think it starts pulling off when he pulls out the cylinder and he has to change direction to keep it attached to the belt. It also looks like they are moving cock-eyed against the belt. But that's just my guess.
It's hard to say because there's not many really good shots of the holster. Thanks for watching!
Outstanding episode Richard
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Wow! Thanks Rusty!
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One day I want to try that
Go for it, it's a fun hobby even if it doesn't turn out to be the greatest holster of all time.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
Perhaps...
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
Awesome! Great talent beautiful work. 👏👏
Thank you very much!
Very nice work.
Thanks!
Good look in holster if I may say, thx for the vid.
Thanks for watching William!
Really nice sir. I'm going to make one just like it. Thank you.
Right on! Be careful and have fun!
Good Work, look Great to Me, i learned something new today. 😊 😊
Thank you!
Great job on the fun belt and holster.
I meant Gun
That's ok, it was fun too!
Wow!....you are very skilled...very interesting video!..I watched it 3x..bravo!
Thank you very much!
One thing, though - all the guns in Pale Rider are cartridge conversions, and presumably that was done to allow the use of blanks, which was problematic in cap and ball revolvers, but they were supposed to play regular cap and ball revolvers in the film.
You are correct! I have both BP and Cartridge Conversions with the exception of his 1858 Remington Pocket he tucked in his belt. His Remington Pocket, was .31 and had a trigger guard, everything I've found has a spur trigger. The same was done in the "Dollars Trilogy" movies. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview was that a pocket, or a police? The new model police had a trigger guard. Was a .36 though.
@@jakubfabisiak9810 IMFDB say's it was a Pocket in .31cal, so I couldn't say for sure.
Did the holster not go over the bullet loops, also?
Unfortunately no, it's a pretty tight fit on the belt.
Nice rig
Thanks!
Make the cylinder loops a little taller and add a toe that is sewn in. I believe that would make them fairly secure.
That would definitely work but might not appear like the original. The movie ones aren't always practical though.
Sam Browne stud inside cylinder pocket, holding cylinder up?
That's a possibility.
The only suggest I could make is to sew a 1/2" of leather thong to the belt laterally where the cylinder would rest against it. I doubt you would even see it with the cylinders loaded in the belt. I had to sew a weld of leather under a row of loops to support .45 ACP rounds. It works well and I can run. 45 Colt rounds over it if necessary (the gun has two caliber cylinders). Too bad the cylinder holder didn't just slide on the belt so you could just cut a leg that sewed on the bottom as support like modern speedloaders. Great job.
I may have to look into that. Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching too!
Very cool
Thanks!
Great video, Pale rider is one of my favorite westerns to watch, you did a great job on that rig, also can you tell me what spool of thread you are using? is that the Tandy 8oz spool of teja wax thread? or some other brand, Thank you
I believe it's a roll of thread I picked up from Amazon: amzn.to/3GiZgRz
It seems to be plenty strong and there's quite a bit on the roll.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Ok, thanks for replying back.
@@JohnnyUrbanWoodsmen absolutely!
Fantastic work! May I ask how wide the strip of leather used for the bullet loops was, and how thick was that? Cheers!
Thank you! They are 3/4" wide and I believe about 3-4oz.
Revolver cap and ball; Two extra cylinders cap and ball. What for the metalic cartridges?
They do make metallic cartridge cylinders for this revolver. I don't have any because they each cost just as much as the revolver. The movie used metallic cartridges because they are easily loaded as blanks for safety. Also carrying a loaded and capped, cap and ball cylinder is pretty dangerous. If they fall and hit a cap, they can go off.
Good job!
Thanks!
I am quite impressed with your craftsmanship. Roughly how long did it take you, in terms of your labor? I am guessing the drying added a few days to the project. Do you have a video that shows how you did the stitching in some detail? Thanks again for your video!
Thank you! I worked on it a total of 3 days BUT, in those 3 days there were two holsters made. I did not like the way the first one fit the pistol. I cut 4 belt blanks until I found one I could use. I had to do my normal duties around the house too. Drying is usually overnight depending on how late you get it wet and how early you get up! I haven't done a video on stitching but I might if there's enough interest. Thank you for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thank you for your rapid reply. I greatly enjoyed watching your video and look forward to more! Thanks again.
@@PanzerDave I try my best! Thank you for watching and see if you can get 10000 of your closest friends to subscribe too! Lol
Good job
Thanks!
very nice. great video
Thank you very much!
Very nice!!! How to subscribe.
One question though..... Why not thread the end of the belt where the cartridge loops are at through the holster loop?
That would still have been a tight fit. I made the holster loop fit pretty snug on the belt to minimize movement. I also wanted to make the stitches on the cylinder loops look more like the movie holster. Thanks for subscribing and thanks for watching!
Nice job!!
Thanks!
Nice work Richard! JimE
Thanks Jim!
I was wondering if you make the pale rider holster and belt for customers to purchase. If so I’d be interested in purchasing.
Unfortunately, I do not. The holsters I make are for my UA-cam videos and to show people there is a hobby out there that can be enjoyed by everyone. I may get into making them for sale when I reach retirement. Thanks for watching !
One of mine as well
Thanks for watching!
A question.
When you have the front drawn out on paper, how do you determine how much more leather is needed for the bend and the back of the holster? It looks like you simply did this using the paper, but wouldn't leather require more material because it is thicker?
Leather absolutely will require more. Sometimes it's just by experience, and I have ruined a few pieces of leather doing it. You get the hang of it after a few times. You can use a thin piece of leather strap, sort of like a ruler and check the length at different areas. I have also seen people use craft foam for their pattern, it's a little cheaper than leather and easier to work with. Wet molding also helps out a LOT! Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I'll be giving it a try here shortly.
I'm much more comfortable with kydex, so I know what you mean about getting the hang of the material needed/used up by the forming.
And if you noticed a lot of views on this video today... it was me. LOL@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
Watch as many and as much as you wish! Lol.
the loop in the back is at list 3 and 1/4 of an inch locking at the picture
I couldn't say for sure, there really aren't many good pictures of the rig to go off of. Thanks for watching!
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I did enjoy your video and I love your work:-)
@@cutiekk5008 thanks, I appreciate it!
Great job!....is there great difficulty in make the bullet loops?
Not really, it's just a pain to sew them. Wetting the leather so it will bend easier helps. Thank you for watching!
Now that is ....COOL ! :-)
Thanks!
What was the actual time you spent on the project? Looks good, great job!
If you don't count the filming, costume stuff and drying time, maybe 5-6 hours or less.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview gopd work
@@tomstepanowicz6191 thanks!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview you are welcome
Hey I know I got a lot of questions but I just got done dying my project with the Feibings Light Brown dye and it sat over night but came out darker than I would’ve liked, did I put too much on it?
Maybe. It's really kind of hard to say though. Sometimes different pieces of leather will take the dye differently though. Dye needs to be put on evenly to get good results. Just remember, you can always go darker, but you can't go back. Ask all the questions you want! I might not always have the right answer, but I can let you know what I think.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Okay awesome thank you for the information! I’ll be making a new one for maybe tombstone with Val Kilmers Shoulder Holster soon or a Buffalo Bill Cody rig so I’ll let you know if I have any other concerns!
You're absolutely welcome!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thank you for subscribing!! It means a great deal to me!! I’ll put a video short up of the Pale Rider gun rig when it’s done :)
Maybe a tapered fit for the cylinders would have worked well for securing them.
Hmm, I may be able to slip an extra stitch or two in there. Thanks for watching!
My 1858 needs that.
They're not terribly hard to make!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I've tried making similar things in the past and it came out horrible each time.
@@Seahawksl1969 patients and practice.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I may try again at some point.
Do you happen to have a pattern for this?
Just the one I made in the video. I don't currently sell patterns or holsters, maybe when I retire I might. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Okay thank you and a couple last questions, what color dye did you use for the belt? And what weight is the belt/ holster? Thanks!
The Dye for the belt was Fiebings Pro Dye, light brown. Black for the holster of course. as for the weight, I don't remember exactly, but I like to keep them to around 8oz.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thank you so much! That helps a lot!
Absolutely! @@madisonrodriguez634
It was an 1861 conversion
An 1861 is an open top revolver.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview the 1861 navy was an open top, the gun used by Eastwood in Pale Rider was an 1861 new army conversion. I read an interesting article by the guy who made Clints rig for the picture. He states that a lot of people were calling the gun the Remington 1858 which of course there is no such pistol. That designation came along in the 1960s for some reason. Great video I really enjoyed it thank you.
@@MaxRank interesting. Thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview truewestmagazine.com/what-was-the-make-of-revolver-used-by-clint-eastwood-in-pale-rider/
This is not the full article, but a quote from it. I was surprised as I’d always thought that the 1858 was the year and name of the pistol. We live and learn. Thanks again
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Do you make Western Rigs for sale ?? I have Colt SAA's 1st Gen .45 cal....I need a Left hand in Black to fit a 5.5 inch barrel with a cross draw for a 4.75 inch barrel.
Unfortunately, I do not make them to sell. Maybe someday when I retire. Thanks for watching!
Now that is ....COOL ! :-)
Thank you!