6.5 Creedmoor vs. 243 Winchester
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Today we're comparing two light recoiling calibers for hunting purposes. Which do you like better? Sound off in the comments below!
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If you are calling this test unfair or not "apples to apples" then you're showing how little you know about bullets.
This is a fair test because...
1) There is no factory loaded 100gr for 6.5 and no 120gr for the .243
2) These bullets are of the same bullet construction, a bullet construction I'd use on anything in Alaska except the biggest brown bears in these calibers.
3) The sectional densities are similar.
4) The Ballistic coefficients are similar
5) They're both shot out of 22" barrels.
6) They're both mid range bullets for their caliber.
If you comment that this test isn't fair, you're showing how little you know about bullets and calibers and ammo.
@keith johnson
AB you exactly correct. You used similar weight bullets for caliber as demonstrated by the same BC and SD.
How can you say this test is fair, you didn’t shoot through the same density pieces of meat, nor did you hit the water bottle the same. I would suggest a more controlled test for penetration if that’s what your after. Thanks for the video.
Got the meat as close as possible
@@AlaskanBallistics
I understand, no big deal. Keep up with the nice videos, much appreciated. ✌️😎👍🇺🇸
Call me crazy or just a traditional caliber kinda guy but the way I see it the wheel wasn't broke, so I'll stick with the 243!
Fair enough. They'll both with fine. .243 certainly is faster.
@Jake Berry yet is crushed by the 6.5 prc
I've never had a deer take another step not one with a 243. I don't own a 6.5 Creedmoor but I can tell ya texas gun trader is full of them. I'll keep my little ol 243 so I can laugh when someone says not a ģood enough blood trail.lol no because it stops where you pull the trigger and shoot cheap 100gr remington core lol. And this is based on way over 50 deer on high fence doe çulls
@@leshemby9430 you must not have been hunting very much, if you shoot often every year, you could be shooting a 300 win mag and you’ll still have a few deer “take one step” at the very least.
Not if you neck shoot them. .223 Rem in Georgia was the only caliber I never had a deer run off from. But i shot does over foodplots and put it at base of the brain stem.
Pains me that people call it a youth or ladies gun. Love my .243 semi
Those people have small PPs
@@Milo_1368 can't judge when it's just a semi
Ladies gun? Hardly.
@David Pallin my wife prefers my .338win mag
The 243 was actually made for woman and youth look up the history. also for those that flinched on recoil
I like 243 and it is a fast accurate round that works for me. It is less expensive tp load as well. There are many loads for 243.
I've got a little H&R break action .243 that I use to hunt whitetail out of a tree stand. Excellent cartridge for small to medium game. Plus the lighter stuff will zip right through all level 3 and most level 4 plates. I want to build an ar10 around the .243.
I've not seen a video of .243 stuff going through a level 4 plate.
@@AlaskanBallistics sounds like a good idea for a video.. maybe "common hunting calibers vs level 4 plates"
I tried a solid copper 7mm Rem Mag 120gr at 3570 fps at a level 4 plate
@@AlaskanBallistics i have a 7mm, did you load 120gr cause I’ve never seen it at stores
Good comparison. A 243 or 7-08 brackets the 6.5 nicely. I have always been a 243 fan. With 100gr ammo it is a beast👍🇺🇸
Love my. 243 with 100 grain. Super accurate and easy to shoot!!
@@jacob-webber-outdoors yes sir👍🇺🇸
I dopped multiple deer with either 100 gr or 95 gr in 243 win. But I have both. 6.5 creedmoor better for elk or beer out to 400 to 500 yards. Past that doing 300 Win Mag.
@@RegularGunGuy yes sir, I like the way you think👍🇺🇸
The .243 can do a lot with a little. I'm not selling mine anytime soon... The 6.5, to me at least, can do a little more given the circumstances. I just have to find a sticker that says "Ladies gun" for mine now...Ouch guys....Much Love! - Hedge
Wonderful test. Thank you. My husband has a Remington model 700 chambered in 243 that he is going to give our Grandson. It was his Grandfathers from the early 70's and only fired a handful of times. He is taking him white tail hunting next year. Again, thank you.
You're welcome. I'd recommend this ammunition
That's cool! Pass em along!
“My first rifle was a .243 papa gave daddy and daddy gave to me.”
@@arturovizcaino1934 Those are the best of family traditions.
My wife took her first deer with her Dad's 30-30, I took our oldest out last season and she shot her first with Grandpa's 30-30. Hope to do the same for my grandkids some day. 😉
I am a simple man. I wake up, have my coffee, jump on YT, see a new Alaskan Ballistics video, I Click. Greetings from Nevada. Great content as always.
Thank you brother!!!
Totally agree
Thank you
"that's just something they dont understand"
@Jay Klink
Nice test. I'll stick with my 243
I shoot 143 grain for 6.5 and i like it but 243 is a great rifle might buy one for my mom some day
I’m not interested in switching. Here in the Southeast the .243 is an excellent dual purpose caliber. Light bullets for coyotes and heavy bullets for hogs & whitetail.
The 6.5 Creedmoor didn’t hit the bottles as square as the 243 did, and it did not retain its weight as well, it also didn’t expand as much. So I would have to go with the 243. I’ve used it for hogs and for deer, it’s an all-around fantastic cartridge.
243 has been around a lot longer, ammo is probably more easily available. And it's no doubt effective
Until the ammo shortage I'd say it's the other way around. 6.5 is better in more energy, better long range Ballistics, heavier bullets.
Looking at the numbers, the Creed is a K.O. As good a round as the .243 is, the Creed out does it.
I see more 243 than 6.5 at shops.
Comparing the recovered bullets , i suggest the 6.5 expanded more but penetrated much further which ( for want of a better way of putting it ) folded the expanded part of the projectile back against itself. The extra weight shed can be directly attributed to the much greater penetration.
Not to say that the 243 is not a good cartridge, just that 6.5cm is a more capable one.
By the way , i have neither, i do have and handload 6.5 x 55, which can out perform 6.5 cm.
i've never used anything lighter than 100 grain in 243 as my old remington 788 shoots lights out with it.
I wouldn't change it then, though these 80gr are as long as a 100gr being a copper
Barnes 85 gr TSX shoots very well for deer and pronghorn.
Roger that.
Love the .243 and will stick to the old school.
To each their own
No disrespect to 6.5 or it's devotees but, I've had many years of success with .243. I haven't seen any videos, printed or anecdotal information to make me buy one.
@mopesrus no offense taken, if you had been able to buy a 6.5 back then, you would probably say the same thing about .243
Both good cartridges
@@AlaskanBallistics You have a very valid point. I just might buy a 6.5 to see for myself what it's all about after the current silliness settles down. Never can have too many toys.
@mopesrus thanks for watching and the commenting. Godspeed and good hunting
Thank you for this comparison. My wife wanted a 243 ultralight hunting rifle . So I bought one with a 1:8.5 twist. And then I throated the barrel out .100" so that she could shoot a Berger 115gr VLD Hunter. That gun shoots single digit ES and SDs as well and is an absolute joy for accuracy. The work cost me about 100 bucks, to throat, the gun out myself with a reamer. It is now a very much different. 243. Cheers!
That's awesome. Good hunting to both of you!
My experience on whitetail deer is that the 6.5 Creedmoor doesn't deliver the goods like the .243. It is a great hole puncher but it seems to just cut through where the .243 dumps all into the animal, when considering comparable bullet construction. I guess the 6.5 would be better for larger, heavier game.
Hmmm... I'm thinking you used the wrong bullet. You want an exit wound to drop the blood pressure.
@@AlaskanBallistics My experience is .270 absolutely blows a .243 away hands down without any doubt in the world if the little extra kick is acceptable. Don't notice it that much myself although it is a little more kick. Same brand and series of ammo used in both.
Well yeah it's got way more case capacity, not even the same category of cartridge
@@AlaskanBallistics I know lol. I don't see that the kick feels that much worse. Is it really that much different to some? I see it on the specs to be a lot different but just doesn't feel that much different I guess. Maybe I'm crazy? The .223 is way lighter kick though. I've been wandering how the .308 & 6.5 cm compare to the .270 for deer at 400 yds though. The .270 that much better than .308 too? I have a .270 but keep considering a .308 or 6.5 cm to replace it. But hate to be disappointed in the end as many of my shots are in an open field at 300 to 500 yd.
Mr. Jones,that’s absolute crazy talk
I never saw the big deal about the 6.5 Creed, now an experienced reloader working with 25/06, that is another story altogether.
Thanks for watching
I took my first whitetail with my dad's 243. Fast forward 24 years (almost to the day) and I just harvested my latest whitetail with the same rifle. I've been looking at retiring it and going with something newer. Been debating between 243 and 6.5. The rapid energy dump and expansion of the 243 makes it an ideal whitetail cartridge. I don't think I will be switching.
Wow! Some of the comments are pretty intense. I personally went with the .243 caliber over the 6.5 Creedmore when I purchased my Henry Long Ranger because of ammo availability. Performance does not matter if the shelves don’t have 6.5 on them. Not to mention I wanted the .243 to fill a gap in my toolbox going from varmint to deer. From deer on up I have other choices for ammo that make more sense for me than 6.5 Cr.
Great video by Alaskan Ballistics and great job on the comparison!
Thank you very much. As a handloader i didn't really think about ammo availability. Godspeed and good hunting.
Founding hit the nail on head. Thanks 🙂
Great rounds.... I have yet to buy a 6.5 CM mainly because I am tooled up for reloading 243 and 308. I don't see the gain that I would get dropping money on a caliber change. Both of the old cartridges drop animals just fine.
Yes they do...
For hunting there not really a reason to change over to 6.5 creedmoor... but long range paper shooting is where the creedmoor shines
@@AlaskanBallistics and if you want a dual purpose hunting rifle/sniper rifle "just in case"
Agreed by caribou went down like she got hit with a meteorite in the head with my 6.5 @Yew Dude Syde
@@AlaskanBallistics ohh very nice!
I have shot a lot of antelope with a 243 ranging from Springbuck to Blue Wildebeest. We had to cull a herd of Springbuck on a cattle farm during a drought. We shot 79 in 3 days. The 243 running 95gr Balistic Tips did a great job. We shot a lot at night as we rarely got shots inside 450m during the day. We used exactly 82 rounds and did not lose a single animal.
It shoots flat enough to be forgiving if you get the range wrong and hammers animals.
I will stick to my 243 and 30-06 for everything in Africa besides the big5.
For some reason the .243 Win gets lost in the vast ammo mix. I have one that I purchased for my son to use to hunt with a few years ago. It’s a great round and available at a lot of stores.
That's good. Even 3006, 270. And 300 win mag are running low here. Happens during hunting season but happening worse this year
i have no prob with .243 , last stop at the ammo spot 2 days ago all they had was 6.5 creedmore , .300 win Mag and .300 Ultramag , ,all the shelves were bare , it took me a week to find 2 boxes of .30-30 for the winchester levergun , its crazy out here right now .
@@johnwallace1729 wow. Yeah 6.5 is really available here too
Alaskan Ballistics availability was a big reason for me deciding to pick up the Tikka in 6.5.
@@InSightFreedom how do you like it? What model did you get?
I started out hunting with a 243 forty years ago. Used it for varmints and deer. Preferred 87 grain spire point for deer; 80 grain HP for groundhogs. Every deer hit in the right place, which ever way they turned, if they didn't just fall over, the were never more than 50 foot from where shot! These were big well fed country deer too.
It'll certainly do the job! Thanks for watching!!!
Same here. Bought my mod. 700 in 1968. BDL for $150 at a western auto store. 243. Bought a RCBS Jr press and with 87 gr. Hornady fur saver, 42 grains of Dupont IMR 4350 I've had good all around game taking. Super accurate out 400 yards. Love it.
@@thomashoward9806 That's a great all around load you mentioned with the IMR 4350. I stepped on my load for 80 grain's a bit, though not necessary, to challenge the 22-250 guys. As you said, it's a 400 yard gun. Happy shooting, brother!
My longest shot with a 243 was 225 yds. Drop the whitetail in his tracks. All my deer were taken between 175 and 225 yards with Cord-lokt 100 grain only one shot. Great video but I'm staying with what I'm comfortable with.
I don't blame you there
But not legal in most states and has the same kinetic energy as a 9mm round from a pistol. @Harry Dick
Just because you can doesn't mean you should
.243 Winchester has a LOOOOOONG history! Mine was made in 1955 and has performed everytime. I know .243 Winchester is available almost everywhere. Can't give you an opinion on 6.5 Creedmoor. Don't own one, haven't shot one. I'm happy with my .243 Winchester Model 70 featherlight!! No It's not For Sale........
Great man. I'd definitely keep that feather light
I also have the model 70 Featherweight classic in .243, and i`m in the uk, they`re difficult to get over here, and mine`s not for sale either ;)
Glad you have a great .243 over there brother! @jonnytimerider
After watching this video the conclusion I’ve come to is that 270 wins
Just barely 🤪 ua-cam.com/video/REmi-DkpCzs/v-deo.html
I invite you to research the 2506
@Paul Austin I invite you to watch my whole .25-06 playlist
.25-06: ua-cam.com/play/PLgyCOrlBEzeBxEh6q6wNbolqRl_G368BD.html
I have an H and R .280 shoots flat just hard to find rounds. I live in northern Michigan
Good luck reaching a mile with a .270. Come back when your powder weighs are in the 40s 🤣
I've always been a huge fan of the 243. I carried winchester 90gr(?) for years hunting blacktail in Western Washington near Ranier. The deer would go into shock on impact, their legs would stiffen and they'd slump over onto their sides.
.243 is popular in my household. 100 grain Nosler Partition loaded to 3000 fps. Shoots through both sides of just about anything.
Cool what powder do you use?
Thanks Brother. The 6.5 surprised me. I still choose the 7mm-08 over the 6.5. I wouldn't want to get shot with a 22 short. Stay Safe and GOD Bless 🙏🕊🇺🇸🦅
7mm-08 is a great caliber
Nothing wrong with the 6.5 but we already had the 7mm-08 and other calibers. They needed a new caliber to make more money imo. Lol
@@exothermal.sprocket I've never fired the 6.5 so I'm admittingly not knowledgeable about it. I just know that for what I do and not shooting competition that the 7mm-08 would suffice. I'm not knocking the 6.5 and are sure that it's good for competition shooting. I need to see some results from people that have taken game with it.
@@exothermal.sprocket k, I'll do some further research.
@@jasonsliger5430 Everybody has different results, but my buddy who is a great shot picked up a 6.5 and downed two whitetails in their tracks at 100 yards on back to back days. Both deer didn't take 1 step but also both shots were perfect heart shots as well.
Heavy versus heavy-the difference is conversational. The 243 and a 100gr soft point equals poison on whitetail.
True, 120gr soft point from a 6.5 would do the dange thing
Alaskan Ballistics most differences are purely conversational. I have said this many times-Winchester has it right in 1963: 220 swift, 243, 257 Roberts, 270, 30.06, 35 Whelen, 264 win, 300 win, 308, 375 h and h, 458 win. Not much has been improved on since
I agree... I've said caliber debates are dumb, but people like watching it on UA-cam
@@exothermal.sprocket and before 30-30 spears and arrows dominated white tail
@@mattjubie and they were way better at hunting.
Ive always used the 100 gr bthp in my .243, a consistent tack driver, great on mule deer and smaller. The 80gr is designed to be a long range coyote/rock chuck round, of course it will penetrate less (as designed).
But i bet this copper bullet will penetrate well as well a bthp in things like deer
I've become a big fan of the .243 due to it's versatility and easy to reload for accuracy. I tell folks I'm shooting a 6mm08 and let them figure out what it is. If I was shooting out to 1000 yards, I might invest in the 6.5 but I'm sticking with my old friend. :)
Nothing wrong with that
No 243 ammo in Mo. But, snicker snicker, got plenty of reloads. 87 gr. Hornady fur savers, IMR 4350. Bad to the bone.
The ELD bullets in 243 will easily touch 1k yds. A lot of long range competition guys have gone over to 6mm Creedmoor, which is effectively the same round as the 243.
I’m not criticizing the test but did the 6.5 go between the ribs and the .243 broke through the rib before hitting the water bottles?
If i remember correctly the 6.5 got a piece of bone hence why it deflected
I absolutely love my Ruger M77 in .243, it's hard to beat such a nice cartridge. I don't have a 6.5 Creedmoor, and neither have I shot one, but I would love to shoot one, and see the difference between the two cartridges. I don't really think there will be a huge difference though, they are pretty close to being the same cartridge.
A old hunting buddy of mine when I was a kid was the local taxidermist. He hunted around the world with just a .243 killing many animals most people wouldent even think of shooting with a .243. He did it cause he didn't like fixing big holes in hide and liked the weight/recoil on .243. I have used a .243 as well for most of my life from elk to black bear on down with 85 grain barnes bullets and they do a hell of a job for internal damage. My only thought on this test is that penetration isn't everything. That 6.5 sure did penetrate well as it weighed 150% of what the .243 bullet weighed, but it didn't open nearly as well. If you are only planning on 300 yard ish shots at max you really are not getting any negligible benefits from the 6.5 in wind drift resistant on the high bc bullet and the .243 will shoot flatter overall. I will say most animals I have hit with a .243 hump up and fall right over with a head flop or two. I would suspect it does so well on game because it doesn't over penetrate and actually dumps most of its energy inside the animal (bullets have always exited animals for me), not into the ground behind the animal. Most of the deer and elk I have gutted that were shot with a .243 were missing a whole ventrical of the heart and one of the lungs (the exit side lung) was usually just gel/unidentifiable/missing. I have had more deer run off on me when I shot them with a 30-06 than the little .243. Sometimes you can have too much pen.
I credit your barnes bullets. They work great. Especially the lrx and ttsx. By expanding and going through they drop the blood pressure into the shock range very quickly.
My barnes bullet did that to a caribou in 6.5 creedmoor too.
Godspeed and good hunting! Keep putting meat on the table.
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I shoot and reload a lot of calibers (22,222,223, 243,6.5, 270,280,308,3006,300,338,...). Leadfree for hunting. The 243 (Twist for light bullets) ist one of my favourites. Easy to reload, super accuracy, very good for smaller Deer.
What bullet do you use?
@@AlaskanBallistics Barnes ttsx, tsx, xlc (discontinued)
@@peterhert9350 Peter what twist are you talking for the .243 and is it an off the shelf gun or custom? looking for a new .243 recommendation and I heard there are different twist rates available and wondering what makes sense for light rounds (coyote, fox, rabbit, chucks, etc)
I'm actually most impressed with the fact that the 6.5 was that close to advertised velocities as it was !
I like Hornady ammo , but they are notorious for not meeting published velocities on their products .
Very true
Interesting, but no surprise. The 243 always seems to need a longer barrel to perform with light bullets. As to why that is, I have no clue, my Sako with a 26 inch barrel tosses them very well. The 6.5 is a great round, wish I had one.
@@oceannavagator easy, for a set burn rate powder the barrel spends less time in the barrel. If you are reloading and have not try a faster powder.
@@thetriode Yeah well, just look at the ballistic tables for yourself, a faster burning powder makes for higher pressures in the chamber. All this can screw with your accurateness of the rifle.
I like them both i will never hate on another gun they are both beast in there leage
If you like to shoot thousands of rounds at the range, the 6.5 barrel (specifically the throat) will last quite a bit longer.
Well said, and the 6.5 Creedmoor has a good selection of high BC bullets for accurate long range shooting.
Got 243 and love it, not changing
Fair enough. Godspeed and good hunting
Another great test!! Came out about like I figured. 243 is a smoking little round for whitetail here in PA. Plus does double duty for woodchuck/varmints. Be really cool to see the 120 gr creedmoor and 100gr 243. Be a little closer in weights.
LOL hear in south Western Pennsylvania we use 300 win mags for 🦌 .
Chris I’m up in north/west. Lucky if I get a shot past 50-75 yards. Around here it’s mostly 30-30’s. The old timers think my.308 is excessive 🤣
@@miketreen7403 yeah down here cornfields and pastures easy 300 to 400 yard shots, we site in two and a half inches high at 100.🤣
Are you shooting them at 600 yd?
EXACTLY! I think 80 vs 120 gr is a terribly misleading comparison. If you are going for a true 🍎 to 🍏 comparison, the old reliable needed alittle more weight to it. I'll take me 243 any day over the fan boy round.
I've killed several elk with my 243 here in New Mexico. Always does a good job of wrecking the boiler room. You can't go wrong with either one.
That is awesome! What load do you use?
I absolutely love the .243. It's extremely effective against deer and hogs. The best part is the very light recoil. My daughter and wife absolutely hated the 30-06. But both of them have 0 issues with a .243..... For those reasons, I pick the .243.
But on a side note, I don't care about recoil. My universal round is the 30-06. In my opinion, it works for any game being hunted.
Agreed. Love the .30-06 killed my first caribou with one.
@@AlaskanBallistics I have shot plenty of deer and pig. But a Caribou? I am envious!
My Tikka 243 w 58 grain superformance varmint is my go to for coyotes, wicked little pills! Furthest so far is 495yds and had a exit hole the size of a tennis ball... not fur friendly. 100 grain soft points for deer size game makes it a super versatile caliber!
That sounds like a fun load to shoot
Over 3800 fps of fun!
Thanks for the comparison. I'm a fan of both cartridges. They are in the sweet spot of my collection with the .243, 25-06. 6.5 x 55 Swede and 6.5 Creedmoor. My 7mm Mauser is close to the rest. All shoot flat and hit hard.
I'd love to shoot the 6.5x55 Swede
How does the 6.5x55 compare to 6.5 CM in your experience? Waaay before it's time.
IMO, these are the two top general purpose cartridge around for anyone looking at deer or smaller. They're just so good at so much, you could make out pretty well with either as your only rifle for a LOT of uses. The .243 with a monolithic of high sectional density can penetrate like a much larger round.
Very true sir. Thanks for watching and the comments
Deer or smaller? Nah, I've used .243 for several elk out to 400 yards. Shot placement is key!
I know a guy that hunts elk with a 243 and it works fine for him
With the right shot placement and bullet construction it will work.
Great video. I have had the pleasure of shooting and hunting with both calibers. I am a fan of each of them. If I was looking to buy my first rifle. I would get the 6.5 Creedmor. Since I already have a 243. With all the bells and whistles that I want. In 1990s money. The ballistics gain of switching, couldn't justify the cost. At least for my hunting situation.
Now that the 6 creedmoor is available, you can do an apples to apples comparison. Would be interesting to see if the faster twist rate makes a difference in penetration, or deflection
Agreed. Got one i can borrow?
I just bought the 6mm Creedmoor shoots amazing and really great groups
The 243 was designed to be ran in 24+ inch barrels. It takes at least that much barrel length to burn all the powder. A lot of the lost game nightmare stories you here about a 243 is because they weren't running a long enough barrel. Do that same crono test with a standard 24" barrel and watch how much faster that bullet travels with just the 2 extra inches. The secret to a 243 is speed. Once you get the speed up it is extremely devestating 👍
And a 24" Barrel helps the 6.5 creedmoor too
Hey, good video, man - the Creedmoor did great!! The 243 is a terrific round, but I love that the 6.5 Creedmoor is getting so much attention. Directs the ammo guys to do a ton of work on sub-7 mm rounds. I feel like the big recoil “tough guy”rounds have held the spotlight for a long time, so it’s good to see these lighter-recoil-but-hard-hitting hunting rounds get some love. Gives us more choices and more fun stuff to talk about. :-)
I love my 6.5s thanks for watching and the comments
6.5 Creedmoor is the greatest cartridge no one ever needed. What does it do that the 260 Remington or 6.5x55 does not do. None of them can do anything the 7mm-08 cannot do.
Agreed... but i have two of them and it's here to stay.
Alaskan Ballistics Understand completely. The Creedmoor is an excellent round. It was just a little confusing for some of us why the development was done other than it was a new shiny toy to market. I wish Remington would have been this aggressive with the 260 back in the day. Great channel. Thanks for the work!
Thank you
Mark Walker the Creedmoor has specific advantages over the .260- it’s not just marketing. First, Remington gave the .260 a 3 degree throat, while the modern convention is now 1.5. The .260 has a standard 9 twist; creedmoor is 8tw. You can’t shoot the highest bc bullets in the SAAMI.260. The twist is too slow and the oal is too long for a standard 2.8” oal as the bullets will be seated too deeply. If one does his homework, he learns that clever marketing isn’t the reason the 6.5 succeeded where the .260 didn’t, but rather Remington screwed up the .260 the way they screwed up the .280 and 7-08.- obsolete reamer design and twist too slow. The 7-08 with a 8.5tw in a long throat could have been the single greatest all around short action cartridge ever, doing everything the .308 could do better.
overall probably use heavy for caliber bullets in a 308 length action. It was a niche round that broke through and became popular. 6 creed has a 40ish fps gain over 243, slightly less powder use and may have better barrel life due to the shoulder angle. The creed rounds also tend to have more modern factory loads than 243 which really needs a face lift imo
Both performed great but the 6.5 Creedmoor is really impressive for sure even with it being a heavier round than the .243. I've always wanted to make an AR in .308 but with the gaining popularity and performance of 6.5 Creedmoor I'll probably end up going that route when I'm able to. Excellent as always Chuck, you and the family have a blessed weekend!
Yeah I'm thinking of building an 18" 6.5 Battle rifle
AR 10, fun
I've had dpms, 2 diamond back, pof, chambered in 308's. All were Good!
Then pof in 6.5C. amazing!
Fast, accurate, consistent!
Why do you think the heavier round is a bad thing? You get a better BC, plus way better terminal ballistics at longer ranges, which means better penetration. Yes, there will be a little more bullet drop, but as a trade off, with the BC, less drift from wind.
I would like to know. what do you think is a better bullet for close to mid range whitetail hunting? I dont want something that will just zip on through at 50 yards. I use a .243 win. Max maybe 200 yards
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Great video Chuck. The problem with the .243 is it's twist is usually too slow to shoot mono metal bullets of decent sectional density. The fast twist of the 6.5's doesn't have the same issue.
Makes sense sir... Godspeed tip you and yours!
This is exactly how 243 gets a bad name from some pl, and it's just not knowing that a 243 was a varmint cartridge that pl started shooting deer with, ps love the 243 with the right twist its a beast,
@@Nanooky don't knowif there's an optimum, but keep the weights to 80g unless u ha e a 1n8 twist, then u can go heavier, not to say some 1n10 will shoot the 100 g hunting bullets, just not the longer target stuff
I would call the .243 the winner for hunting because it seemed to dump a lot of energy quickly. Also because I feel like the penetration of the 6.5 is good for some things, but I’d rather have the round go in and, as I said, dump a lot of energy to have more area to shatter bones, rather than go through them.
Usually when it dumps a lot of energy , it doesn't cause enough blood loss. For whitetail hunting you might be fine. Anything else you'd want more penetration
@@AlaskanBallistics well that’s exactly what I use it for is whitetail. And I’ve gotten a couple of spine shots that end up making a hole in the spine about 3 inches wide. Drops em pretty quick. But from my experience the .243 is a good all purpose round as long as you can get proper shot placement. But that’s just my opinion.
Proper shot placement and bullet construction are 99% of the battle. Caliber and power is only 1%
@@AlaskanBallistics exactly
The Two Forty Three is in "My Opinion" absolutely the best rifle caliber of all time. Simply I Love it.!!! 🤔
Glad you like it
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It’s one of my favorites, that’s for sure!
Wow. That's saying a lot. (I bet a lot of folks would disagree. Some call it barely adequate). I already have a Savage 110 in .243 and an old Winchester 30-30. Looking to buy a new rifle and I think I'll stick with .243. The comments here are about 10:1 in favor of .243. I never realized how popular and well-regarded it was. I bought it because I knew about Savage accuracy and .243 flat-shooting characteristics. But I always felt like it was a child/woman's rifle until I started researching it. I never believed the child/woman thing was legit.
I'm always blown away by what the indigenous people use... 243 is a very popular... just recently I was talking to a buddy from Kodiak trying to decide between a 308 and a 30- O6 and he told me to get the 30-30...... I shit you not this guy goes brown bear hunting with a 30-30 on Kodiak where he grew up.....
Use what you have
@@AlaskanBallistics yeah man... this guy had quite the collection of pre 64 Winchester all in 30 30.... another guy who married a native woman and lives out in one of those villages his hunting rifle is a break action 243.... both the above guys have plenty of money,,,they chose to stick with what they knew I guess... it ain't none of my business and I'd never tell somebody what to do.... it's just interesting
@@exothermal.sprocket Not so , i have a .300 Rem Ultramag , A .300 Win mag , and i still cherish my reliable winchester 30-30 ! ,the grandson is getting it and i made him promise to never let it go , it stays in the family .
Don't have a 6.5 but do have a .260 Remington that I have been using for 22 yrs and it is deadly on deer. I guess I never could get into the 6.5 because the 260 has always performed so well. The 243 is a excellent deer cartridge also. Thanks for the video.
I'd live to do a 6.5 vs 260 video. Thanks for watching bro
@@AlaskanBallistics that is a video I would like to see!
I guess no one remembers the 25-06. Mine did fabulously on both white tails and Julie's with either 110gr accubond or 117 gr8 factory.
26 cal is 6.5mm, the 260 rem is a 6.5/308, comparing the 2 I would go with the 260, to use the full potential of the 243 (6mm/308) you need a faster twist rate barrel & heavier projectiles, I prefer the 26 cal over the 24 cal if your game is becoming larger & ethical distances, enjoy the vids 🍻😊
.260 is good just not as available these days and Hornady got the twist rate right out of the gate.
I may be behind on this but I really think a comparison or dual review on these 2 guns as budget friendly hunting rifled would be a real help to our hunting community. From you guys, your opinion has alot of weight. Thanks Chuck.
Good idea
I would be very interested to know which you would chose and why if you could only have one in any given caliber.
The 6.5 CM is a fine round, but its like reinventing the wheel to me. Its sandwiched in between rounds that have been around for decades, with tiny little differences in performance.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Great marketing by the 6.5CM guys
It does allow for high b.c. bullets in a short action with short burning powders
not a kids or ladies gun. its all about grain size determining what caliber u want..243 flatlines to 200 yards…great deer cartridge no matter ur age
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I love these comparison videos! I shot a box of superformance through my 6.5 and they have some nice stank behind them but never got a chance to group them and see how they stack. I did catch one first shot though and it did expand very well into milk jugs. My buddy has a .243win that i have yet to catch a bullet for him. I guess i'll ask him to borrow it and see how it does in the jugs.
Yeah let me know how it does!!! If you've hit a video leave a link here
@@AlaskanBallistics i dont have the superformance bullet catch on video because i was shooting with the family and its awkward to film in front of people for me still yet but i did catch the 140gr remington core lokt in 6.5 and i believe it was 150gr in .30-06 on camera. I got a lot of crap on that video for my yard being a mess but i had lost my grandfather and had to get all of his belongings off his property because trash scumbags were stealing his stuff for scrap. So in a couple videos the yard is a mess but i think i lined them out pretty good in the comments haha i have several bullet catch videos from 22mag to 12 gauge that seem to do pretty good. I really appreciate you letting me post my video links to your comments, it means a lot for the support of another fellow youtuber. I will post a link to the playlist pew pew shenanigans that should have all the videos on it but just in case they dont i will go through and make sure they are all added to the playlist. Again, thank you.
I found the video entertaining. The fact that this ammo was what you can find in the store. Is very relevant. I can get 6mm Credmoor and 6.5 Creedmore, but not 243.
Some of the other popular UA-camrs have all kinds of charts. But no shooting the ammo. So anyone who shoots water jugs, paper plates or reams of paper. Gives us useful entertainment and science.
I do consider the information from at least a dozen UA-camrs. As part of my buying decisions. But when I bought my 6.5 Creedmoor it took 5 months before I could buy ammo for it. So now I buy ammo, then buy the rifle.
Thank you for watching. I how you get a lot of ammo for your 6.5 creedmoor. Barnes 127gr LRX is the best hunting bullet I've found so far. The Caribou didn't like it.
243 is the best SHTF round. 6.5 rounds/components could be hard to find while 243 has been around a long time and is relatively plentiful. If your life depends on the choice the 243 makes more sense.
How would 6.5 be hard to find? Makes ZERO sense.
It's popular but you can still find components and ammo all over the place. .243 is available too but that's because no one wants it in Alaska
I don’t understand why everyone compares grain to grain for calibers. Each caliber has their own set of weights and speed to weight ratios. They have different diameters and each have their pros and cons. It’s honestly like comparing a 30-06 150gr to a 308 150gr and it just isn’t a fair comparison. 30-06 150gr is on the low grain weight and pretty fast meaning it should expand better, but in 308 150gr is about the middle of the grain weights and most are around 2700 fps in the 150gr. If the comparison isn’t the lowest grain weight to the lowest grain weight then I don’t think the tests are fair. Honestly I’ve tried to understand why people go for the same grain weights when comparing calibers, but it seems pointless to me. An even better comparison is a 180gr 357 mag to a 180gr 44 mag. A 180gr 357 is heavy, but for a 44 it’s super light.
I hope you read this and understand what I’m saying. I’m not trying to be an asshole, but comparing light weights to heavy weights just isn’t a fair comparison to me. I’ve seen hundreds of brands, bullets, weights, and ammo tests here on YT, but most don’t seem fair. I like comparing lightest to lightest weights and heaviest to heaviest weights. I understand that it’s a lot more tedious for comparisons and is extremely difficult to find the ammo that’s needed for these tests, but I just needed to get this off my chest because I’m kind of frustrated with everyone comparing the same grain weights and seen people talking about it not being fair.
Actually you can get 55gr or 70gr for .243 and 110gr for 6.5 (handload only)...
So these are both medium weight bullets for their calibers. Thanks for the comment brother
Alaskan Ballistics I’m not saying that your test was unfair. I enjoy you’re testing videos and the data you show. I just get irritated by people trying to compare completely different grain weights in different calibers. I’m not trying to discredit you or your tests, I’m just kinda pissed at people trying to compare different calibers that are worlds apart with completely different grain weights. I’m just a little upset that most people test rounds near the same grain weight even if it’s rare or hard to find the ammo in the same grain weights.
@@disninja8285 i understand... .22lr vs. 50bmg next😜😜😁😜😁? Just kidding. Thanks for your opinion man!!!
I agree, I have a 257 wby mag and a 250 Savage .
The wby is effective to 600yds and the Savage out to 200yds. I use Barnes 100gr TTSX bullets in both. Both are effective in their respective ways.
The wby is more effective on long clear cut shots and the Savage is better suited for the timber. No deer or elk has ever been able to tell me the difference in the two at their effective distances.
6.5 for a do everything caliber, kinda like the 7mm-08. But the .243 would seem a excellent companion to a .308 or larger caliber rifle. Thinking whitetail and smaller for the .243 and 30-06 or 300 magnum for the occasional elk/moose, hog, or bear. But a 6.5 creedmoor/swedish or a 7mm08 would be a fantastic first rifle as a gift to a child or grandchild, much more so than the .243 since it's so versatile it could be the only gun they would ever need. Great video, thumbs up!
Thank you kindly.
I'm putting together an AR10 chambered in .243 currently, with a 1:8 twist (running 80gr or higher bullets, leaning towards the 100s) and plan on using it as a dual purpose target/deer rifle. 20" barrel, looking at a Primary Arms 4-16x44 with R Grid 2b Reticle.
Why the US Military never adopted the .243 is beyond me. It would make for an AMAZING DMR round, or even in a semi auto sniper system. The 100 gr BTSPs are capable, even in a 20" barrel, of making it to 1k supersonic.
Some of the 109 grs with Hogdon Superformance powders can make it there with around 1300-1400 FPS or more, even in a 20"
Yeah it's a great round. Let me know how the build goes. I just built a .22-250
I used to run a 85 grain boat tail hollow point at 3900 fps with my 243. I wasn't interested in penetration, I was interested in making sure that all the energy from the round was expended on the target and it was.
Up here where we have moose that will stomp you and bears that will eat you, Penetration is a factor.
What load were you using for 3900 fps? That's smoking?
@@AlaskanBallistics Sierra 85 gn boat tail hollow point, IMR 4350 powder but I don't remember the weight. I know it was a bit over the top of the loading table but there was no sign of the bolt binding and the empty cartridges were fine for size and shape. In my Tikka it would shoot 1/2m at 100.
That's a really deadly combo for sure
Smart make the 1 shot kill.
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I've got to hand it to you. That was an awesome test. Real meat, real distance. Plenty of data. A+
Thank you kindly. I appreciate it more than you know. Godspeed and good hunting to you
100 grain 243 cartridge would have been a fairer comparison, in my opinion.
But not the same kind of bullet... I'm assuming you would like see it go against a 140gr 6.5 Creedmoor... that way they both have their heaviest bullet and similar sectional density
Not super scientific, but certainly a comparison that demonstrates the two cartridges across a couple of regimes. However, 243 is available in 100 grain loadings, which would help it in penetration.
Either way, the 6.5 is a purpose designed long range cartridge. It was designed to take very long length bullets to get exceptional ballistic coefficients for that purpose. The rifles made for it have faster twists than factory 243's as well (needed for really long bullets). Sharper shoulder angle for more powder capacity in a relatively short case, etc, etc. The thing was built for long range. 243 was created 68 years ago, way before we had the understanding (and desire) to be shooting at 1,000+ yards and designing cartridges to do it.
243 could easily get very close to the 6.5 with changes to a rifle's throat and twist rate as it has a slight case capacity advantage (53-54 grains for 243 and about 52-ish for 6.5). But, in that case, I think you really end up more in line with the 6mm Creedmoor....
Yeah unfortunately there's no 100gr loading in an all copper bullet
I like the .243 because it can used for groundhogs, coyotes, mule deer, hogs and yes with the right shot Elk with the 100gr. soft point ammo.
Easy to shoot with great accuracy! The 6.5 is also a great cartridge and has it's merits! It is a matter of preference
The room mate that used a 243 on brown bear 2 questions. Is he still with us and what bullet did he use. I can't see using the round you just shot being used on bears.
1 yes... 2 i have no idea.... 3. This .243 round would do for in a central nervous system hit. Through the body heat shot, it'd be questionable
You know there are a lot of people out there that says that the bigger the better and I'm not that way lol the smaller calibers are ok in my book it's no different then using a bow it's all in the shot placement if you are not confident in ether one your not going to do well and anyone can start bitching at this statement that's fine I'm no pro by any means it's just little ol me and my opinion happy hunting guys
@@cjheer6686 But even with a bow you are going to use proper equipment. Some .243 rounds are made for varmits and almost explode in groundhogs. Not what you would want for hunting big game. I was questioning the load because of how fast the bullet opened up. While I'm sure a .243 would kill a bear, after all almost every animal on earth has been killed with a .22 long rifle at some point. PS Have your ever hunted Brown bear with a .243 because most outfitters wouldn't allow it.
@@johnkendall6962 oh believe me I get that I do it's for safety reasons but all I'm saying is that it's all in shot placement you even said it yourself I'm sure there isn't an animal around here that has not been killed with a 22 lol but it can be done lol that's all I'm saying ?!
Binge watching all your older comparison vids at work
Sweet man thanks. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
I love how you have your bald eagle looking on with interest at the ballistic testing!
Thanks i got lucky with that photo.
Both are great small to medium deer out to 400 yards IMO. 6.5 beats 243 in every area. But 243 is still excellent deer chambering. Even Elk & Caribou within reason. Shot placement is always critical. I choose 7mm-08 in these comparisons. Thanks Chuck.
Yeah for hunting 7mm-08 is best low recoiling hunting round
243, is a perfect amount of energy. Never leaves the body.
That's bad, won't drop the blood pressure. You'll end up wounding and not finding a lot of animals
Great video... the 6.5 is a great round, to me the .243 is a Li’l better
Thank you. Godspeed to you and yours
Tell me what you think of episode II
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They are both great calibers for the majority of hunters hunting most game. Nice video to compare the differences between them.
Thank you Chris. Godspeed and good hunting!
Too much emphasis on the 6.5 creedmore!!!! Everyone forgets Remington came out with a cartridge several years earlier that does everything the creedmore does but just a wee bit better. It’s called the.260 rem. And it is directly derived from the.308 win just like the 7-08. The 6.5 is not. Tapers and shoulders have been changed. Just like the.30-06, .270, and .25-06 all use the same case, the later two being derived directly from the.30-06, so are the.308, .7mm-08, and the.260 done the same. So if you are going to talk about the creedmore being so good, you need to talk about the .260 as well and let people decide for themselves after showing the actual facts and differences of the two. If I had to pick for reloading, .260 hands down over the creedmore. And yes, by the way, I do own a .260 and it shoots amazing. So, I implore you to check it out for yourself and see the differences. Can’t praise one without the other! Keep your powder dry and shoot straight my friends!!!!
Remington came out with the .244 Rem when Winchester set up the .243 Win. Rem made a mistake in the twist rate making the .244 into a light bullet rifle. When they smartened up the changed the name, twist, making it a better cartridge than the .243. BTW, the new name was 6mm Remington. And no, it didn't sell because of adverse publicity plus it was considered a foreign cartridge since it was a metric. Change the name again and it sold better. I had a Win # 88 in .243. It was ok, butI found a Swedish Mauser 6.5x55 nice little carbine. Not fast but fun. Sorry for my .02cents.
Thank you for that info
The problem with the .260 is that Rem took a great idea and screwed it up (again) with too slow a twist, too short a freebore, and that stupid 3° leade they afflict everything with. If you take the .260 and fix it so it will shoot a 140 optimally at mag length, has a better reamer design, and the proper 8 twist standard, you get the 6.5.
Now, if you want to go custom with an improved reamer, get a .260 AI and never look back. It's a heck of a round and can hit 2900 with 140s in some loads with acceptable pressure. Brass is stable and accuracy excellent. But it's not SAAMI and your box stock 260 rem ammo won't give you the speed in that chamber when FFing. Also, the 260 with long match bullets will be longer than most box mag setups can feed. Which you don't want to anyway because of the 9 twist.
For a SAAMI option ready to go, it's no contest that 6.5CM>.260. There's simply no reason to saami .260 instead of 6.5. The differences are far too small to give up the better overall design of the 6.5CM for SAAMI lengths. And I can still hit 2900 with RL26 and a 140 in my 6.5 (26"). Warm, but OK in SRP brass.
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Good video Chuck I enjoy all your videos how do you get the energy of those bullets if it's not written on the box is there a formula that you can figure out thank you and God bless I have a 243 and a 6.5 Creedmoor and I think there excellent deer guns
Fps squared x bullet weight in grains. All over the constant which is 450240
Im a fan of the 6.5 because it out performs my beloved 308 at longer range. but theres way more cheap ammo for the 308 thats why i have chosen it
That is very true sir. I think normal hunting ranges the 308 will really out perform the 6.5cm
I wouldn't say there's cheap ammo for 308 or pretty anything else anymore.
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@Reel-Lentless out to 300 yards absolutely does. Plus more loadings available for it, more bullet choices
@Reel-Lentless If you think an animal is going to notice a couple of hundred ft/lbs of energy difference at closer ranges you're on dope. 308 only has a 10% energy advantage at the muzzle and both calibers produce more than enough energy to harvest game at close ranges. However at longer ranges when the energy begins to diminish and thus is needed most 308 fails to deliver. 308 pays for that 10% energy advantage at the muzzle by being 30% behind by 1000 yards because if you think hunting is only valid reason to own a rifle then you're a fudd. But what 6.5cm does best is chap the asses of 308 owners because envy is a fickled little bitch which brings me to the nature of your comment.
Chuck I absolutely love the .243 for killing deer sized game. I don’t currently own one. However a friend of mine’s fiancé has taken some very nice whitetail bucks with .243. As for me this year I will be taking a deer with my husqvarna 30-06 using 180 grain partition.
That'll work!
I’ve always thought the 243 was a great Whitetail round and performs better in the field than on paper
The 6.5 CM is basically a modern 6.5x55 .. which has taken just about everything.. Im sure the 6.5CM would probably do even better
I really don’t see the 6.5CM performance is much better .. it seemed not to expand as well .. so that was the reason for increased penetration…
I think the the 6.5 CM would excel with 140gr bullets .. not top shelf bullets
The 6.5 X55 built its reputation on Moose using 140 to 160 gr bullets …
The 243 shines with cup & core 100gr on whitetail
Personally give me a
308 Winchester and a $25.00 box of 150gr SP ammo call it a day
That .308 will work
I own both. However, I have harvested dozens of deer with my .243 over 25 years of hunting. My 6.5 Creedmor is brand new.
That's great! You've eaten well! I like both too
ladies gun? 243? man, it's one of the most popular rounds in Oz and does everything we need for 95% game. you guys must have some seriously big game. great show of the two cal's, the 6.5 is a very impressive competitor for the 243. only reason i would choose 243 is maybe for factory round cost and availability in Australia. the 6.5 cr is impressive, and worth considering for reloaders..
We do have game that hunts you back up here
@@AlaskanBallistics not like you guys. pigs can have a go, wild dogs maybe, snakes and salty crocs. but you guys with your bears, far out, you'd have to be on your toes.
We have no snakes though
Yep. I'm so tired of every .243 video calling it a youth or beginner caliber. Just stop it.
@jdsalinger73 well maybe that's because it is. Sure I'll take you grizzly bear hunting with it and 80gr barnes tsx bullets, but most purple use it as a youth/beginnner gun.
My 11 year old niece took a moose with one
Perfect timing. These are the loads I'm looking at for my son's first deer rifle. I'm considering the Ruger American Go Wild Compact with 16.1" barrels. What should I expect for velocity and energy decrease given the barrel length? Considering bullet penetration from your 22" barrel, looks like the 6.5CM will be his gun.
I get about 75 fps more in the 6.5 in my 24" bergara than my 22" savage featured in this video. So if that holds true it's 450 fps loss. If you handload you can negate by faster burning powders and a magnum primer, just don't load to more than 80% of max with a magnum primer.
Thanks for another great comparison video
Good comparison. I noticed the lower velocity on the .243. That round was designed for a 24" barrel vs. the 22" barrel used. Having said that, I'm a big fan of the 6.5 Creedmoor.
yeah that .243 is a bit over bored
Heavier slower 6.5 will not expand as much as a faster 243., so it(the 243) won't penetrate as far.
Would comparing the 6.5cm to .308 be a better comparison ? FYI : it's August 2024 and in my town , there are more 6.5cm rifles and ammo on the shelves in stores .
I've done that video too. The point of this was to compare two light recoiling rifles.
That 6.5 creedmoor is a harder hitting bullet. The three deer I shot this year with it have all broke down at the exact spot they were shot at. I have two 243's that kill real good too. But as far as breaking one down; I'll give it to the 6.5!
Good shooting and good hunting to you
@@AlaskanBallistics I appreciate it, thanks!
I am borrowing someone’s youth w43 it has a very short barrel and for regular deer season I need to give it back. I have been looking at getting a 6.5 creedmoor and this video gave me an idea of what it will do thanks
You're Welcome. They're both good for deer, but the 6.5 is just a bit better. Thanks for watching. Godspeed
They both had great expansion👍🇺🇸
.243 is the winner for me better expansion and weight retention plus less meat damage.
Fair enough
Great video. Love seeing these tests. Would love to see 6.5 creed vs 6.5 swedish.
Me too but I don't have access to a 6.5x55 swede... if I get one, I'll definitely do the video.
@@AlaskanBallistics That would be Great. Keep the videos coming. Big thumbs up from New Zealand.
By the numbers the 6.5 CM is a little hotter, but they are close.
I do have a 6.5 creedmoor vs. 6.5x284 Norma. And a 6.5x284 Norma vs 6.5 prc video.
@@AlaskanBallistics I've never seen the Norma in stores. There's lots of really great calibers you don't see a lot. I'm on the fence with 7mm-08. I like the idea a lot. Short action, flies well, has power, not that pricey. Harder to find than .308.
Between my children and I, we've killed close to 30 deer with the "good ole 243" and my last 6 bucks were taken with a 6.5 creedmoor here in WV / MD. I couldn't tell which one killed them more! Lol.....in my opinion both are great whitetail calibers. Great review, keep them coming!
Thank you sir. Yeah put a well constructed bullet in the right place, and it doesn't matter what caliber you use.
Hey let's neck down Creed case to 243, new wild cat, or wait there's a 6 mm Creed available.
Dude check out the 6mm mongoose, basically a reshaped 223 cartridge for max case capacity and sends 243 projectiles. About as hotrod as you can safely get out of an ar15 with standard AR mags.
This is a great video and great comparison. Both great rounds.
Thank you kindly.
Good luck finding Creed more ammo!!! I'll stick to .243!
Lol neither here and c I've seen more creedmoor trickle in than .243
I haven't checked into it, but are the rifle barrels equal length on both rifles? Seems to me if there is a variance of length, twist rate, bullet weight, powder charge there will be a significant difference. With that being said, thank you for taking the time to spur conversation, and this is great info for any and everyone. Keep them coming.
Thank you for watching! Both barrels were 22"
Great video! I know. Between calibers weight will never be identical, but the brand and bullet type are. I have a T/C Compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it always hits exactly where I aim.
Not sure what I enjoy more, the comparison videos or the comments! I wonder if you compared the 6.5cm to the .458 win mag, how many people would say the .458 is the better cartridge, just to spite the 6.5!
Personally, I have a ton a favorite calibers, including some that I still own and shoot. Not much overlap except between the .30-06 & .270, and I am usually loathe to consider new cartridges but recently picked up a 6.5cm Bergara B-14 Hunter as my light recoil "fun" rifle. Having previously had a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in .260rem (loved it but sold it regrettably), I wanted something similar.
This previous deer season I promised to outfit a female first time hunter/rifle shooter friend and even the recoil and muzzle blast of my .270 was uncomfortable for her, so I ended up lending her the '06 with Remington low recoil ammo. I think this is one area the 6.5cm will shine. I don't compete and if I ever make it out west to hunt elk and there's a possibility of needing to make a long follow up shot, I would be toting my .300RUM model 70.
Use what you like and can shoot well, choose good bullets, shot placement is everything and if you develop a flinch, shoot a brick of .22lr!
Well said. My 6.5 creedmoor bergara took a caribou at 282 yards. 127gr barnes LRX. Good bullet, good shot placement, good eating