James O'Brien's theory on climate change deniers | LBC
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- James O'Brien argues climate change deniers have a 'desire to believe that dangers don't exist' and want a simple solution to a complicated problem.
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“There is always an easy solution to every human problem-neat, plausible, and wrong.” H. L. Mencken.
My favourite HL Mencken quote...because it's most likely true.
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary"
@@thomasbroleen4241 nuclear weopons?
@@noobadocThe infamous weapons of mass destruction?
@@noobadoc I'm aware of the reality that is nuclear weapons, they make quite a bang by all accounts, not sure what point you're making Iain?
@@thomasbroleen4241 "My favourite HL Mencken quote...because it's most likely true.
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary"" - In
the United States, you almost perfectly describe Trumpism and Republican party for the past few decades. Often times, those hobgoblins are nothing more than scapegoats chosen because they are easy targets for the bigots, that seem to be drawn more to conservative politics than not, to focus on.
People believe whatever makes them feel safe and comfortable which is why religions are so successful despite their glaringly ridiculous assertions.
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So very, very true.
Beautifully stated
Yep. Covid conspiracies...climate change conspiracies...to believe these things weren't real feels much better. Religion is a massive one for sure.
Could just as easily be talking about religion here.
Conspirituality
Amen to that
One creates the other.
Never met an athiest who said covid was fake.
Yeah! And it goes both ways! When you are an atheist, you find new kinds of religion to supress your existential angst! This is what "climate change" represent to most of you, TOTALLY ignorant, people! A new religion that politicians exploit to deceive and rob us all!
I think it's the feeling that "it can't be my fault as I'm just doing what everyone else is, just like on the tele, and the adverts, and I don't want to give up my aspirations. If it is all true then I've been lied to so relentlessly and constantly..."
Some people would rather be a fool than look like one.
@@CaptainRetroStation Or they would rather look like a fool than admit to themselves that they have been fooled?
All it needs is the right business model. Green technologies need to find that. Affordability is important but it needs all the other ingredients to be successful. Climate is not the sales pitch. That will not sell. Green tech needs to be affordable and desirable. Then whatever the side of the debate you sit everyone will buy into the Green tech without a second thought.
Tbh I think its "If saving the planet causes a minor inconvenience to me idgaf. I'm sure it will outlive me anyway so who cares"
@@paulwbafc73 first you look whether there is an actual problem to solve. If the problem is mass delusion and panic for a "problem" that is NOT a problem. You just let it be cured in time! This is the most embarrassing mass delusion event in the history of modern mankind! I guess Eugene Wigner was right when he stated "Stupidity is a general human property"!
There are two things involves in believing in conspiracy theories.
1. Some people find it difficult to believe that other people can do things that they can't do themselves.
2. Some people prefer to believe that someone is in charge overall, even if that person is completely corrupt, rather than the fact that no-one is in charge.
it boils down to fear of losing control and fear of being left out. First for have-s and second for have not-s.
@The Rain or worse.. humanity as a whole is in control. Same thing scares people of actual democracy and they lean to dictators.
@Cian MacGana utter nonsense. Of course humans are influencing the climate it's not arrogance it just evidence..
Humans and their livestock now make up over 95% of the world's biomass.
And I like how you start by trying to insult me rather than the arguments Luckily I have enough experience in life to be beyond being insulted.
@Cian MacGana And it's a collective effort. Not just Andrew from Portsmouth whoever he is.
@Cian MacGana I didn't feel insulted. But you used the And Hominem fallacy.
Literally nobody is denying the climate changes over time.
What we object to is the notion that if we just surrender all of our money and rights to the government, they will fix it somehow.
@MadArticDriver that is literally the solution they are suggesting. That's why they are demanding the goverment take action. Not the people. Groups like extinction and insulate aren't being an inconvenience to make people act, only to pressure goverment to act.
What?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure you really dont know what climate change really is. Your might try learning about it .
James himself states that the simplest answers are most often correct (Occam's razor)
The divide in society over the question of anthropogenic global warming is exactly the same divide as that of the politics of left and right. Simply put, everybody understands that the only solutions to AGW are all collective in nature, and since one side of the political divide view any and all forms of collectivism as socialism aka communism, they *CHOOSE* to deny that the problem that requires the collective action to solve it actually exists.
Spoken like a true academic.....ergo...out your behind!
@@iant4060 Whatever you say. It doesn't matter to me.
Notwithstanding that you don't seem to have anything resembling a counter argument that's worth responding to, but that is also typical.
Just like the debate about whether Covid-19 is natural or man made, we can do something about it, so why refuse to solve the problem? We could end Covid if all the wealthy countries ignored the expense, and vaccinated the entire world. Likewise, If all countries shared their knowledge, research and breakthroughs, rather than trying to gain an advantage, we could beat climate change.
Main stream media (and politics) seems to want to divide and rule. Get gullible and naturally angry people to vote for what is bad for them / do what's bad for them / think what's bad for them / want to "stick it to the man" and you have a collective who are lead to destroying society and robbing everyone else of their freedoms.
Why are they angry? Years of austerity, deprivation, low wages, being fed the "poor me - I'm a victim" narrative and feeling powerless.
This is why we have years of Tory governments and Brexit.
@@rjy8960 "Why are they angry? Years of austerity, deprivation, low wages"
Which they themselves keep on voting for because Rupert tells them to.
For me it is still the same simple instinct that humans always had. Fight or Flight! And when it comes to the Truth, the only way to flee it is to deny it.
People always forget about freeze
But, What is the truth Victoria?
Nonsense.
In the first seconds after reading this, it seemed like a plausible idea. But then I thought further. Firstly, it implies that truth is a danger - this isn't implicitly true. Secondly, the alternative to flight is fight, and arguably whether you are fighting or fleeing, you're still trying to deny the truth.
I still think you have a point - people want to deny the truth, possibly as some kind of survival instinct. But not necessarily as part of a fight/flight response.
Denial of the truth is the very basis of religion.
"The idea of death, the fear of it, haunts the human animal like nothing else" Ernest Becker. ...What you are describing is well documented particularly Terror Management Theory or TMT.
Doesn't particularly bother me. I just accept my existence and will do the best I can whilst I can. Dying is just an inevitable eventuality. Just enjoy what time you have. Given the current lifespan of our Sun we have around 5 billion years left before the Sun destroys Earth as it evolves into a red giant. The human race will be long gone by then lol.
Momento Mori
@@odiedodieuk indeed...but apparently it is more difficult than we can comprehend, we are hard wired to avoid it!
It will happen to all of us that one day you'll be tapped on the shoulder and told not just that the party's over but slightly worse, the party's going on, and you have to leave. That's the reflection, I think, that most upsets people about their demise.
@@simonpearce9076 And you and me will be gone about 5 billion years before that happens...our time is immeasurably minuscule, that's what scares me at times. Although if I really think about it, the death of those around me is slightly more terrifying.
Yes James. It's called burying your head in the sand. Some species do this in a very literal way. Others construct metaphorical sand (such as conspiracy theories). Little children hide under their blankets (which provide nothing more than a psychological defense).
A real Einstein, here
Really. Its another point of view. Banning other points of view is not science. Its a disgrace.
@@mielerodriguez5678 Climate change denial has not been banned. But you are entitled to that fictitious point of view (even if it doesn't solve the problem of climate change). 😏
@@rww805 Does it take an Einstein to recognise why people resort to denial?
@@ColaSpandex I bet you think your comment is really profound.
We want to believe in the illusion of control. That we are not tied to entropy and death.
And yet you think that we can control the earth's temperature from heating by 1.5 degrees. Climate change will still happen regardless of what we do. The climate has always changed
@@victoriarose1840 Or we could listen to experts and try and get the fossil fuel companies to reduce their output...
@@victoriarose1840 yes, we are not in control, we are just another cog, another input in upcoming climate disaster.
This denial was at play when we all watched the virus get to our doorstep before taking action.
But we didn’t “all” do that. Some of us used our common sense and watched world news and shut down long before Johnson was forced to call for the first lockdown.
Says Al Gore said in 2009 that “the North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming.”
So therefore climate change isn't happening 🙈🙉🙊
It is actually next year or the year after that when that will happen.
@@SmileyandTheUnderclass well done...
@@SuperMic00 so you're one of those people " unless I see it with my own eyes it won't happen".
Great logic there pal.
@@SmileyandTheUnderclass Keep the faith son!
And the brainwashing continues
The challenge with living in a world where life is fragile means that one must be actively aware of one's surroundings. We cannot continue to live in a half asleep fog. That's not intelligent living. To be aware means knowing you're vulnerable. But it also develops your intelligence to be able to embrace the challenge and use creativity to deal with it. Hence, you're not helpless anymore.
Yes, now we've just got to export that awareness to the countries that are the main culprits. Global warming=global effort to counter otherwise it's simply no use.
"I don't want to sound patronising, but..."
This guy knows very little about everything he talks about he is utterly arrogant.
I think he might just be a little bit dence.
@@Kellyjellycones78 "I think he might just be a little bit _dence_ ." Ohhhh such irony!!
@@Kellyjellycones78 nice spelling
@@Kellyjellycones78 - You are incorrect...
You don't "think".🙄
@@Kellyjellycones78 Love this comment, especially considering he's speaking directly about people like. How ironic.
Pretty much spot on. Beneath the surface it's just basic human psychology like survival, fear and protection of ones own character. The lies being told and spread today are simply more appealing to people than the objective truth, so confirmation bias is pretty much just wreaking havoc in this age of information.
And I bet that you and him are experts of psychology, not me with doctorate studies in the field! He's talking NONSENSE! Especially in the field of science around climate. Textbook Dunning-Kruger! If I hit you with terms, such as radiative forcing, ECM, albedo effect, LIA, GATs, cosmic ray atmospheric ionization hypothesis, "smoothing of data", and so on, you'd start searching what they mean. Yet, here you are claiming that you understand better than me, a skeptic of the "climate change" narrative, who has been studying the climate for 15 years straight!
3:26 really think this is at the heart of much of the modern malaise
To me, it IS an enormous leap to go from what I want to be true, to what I believe is true. In fact, it's a leap I cannot consciously make. I'm constantly on the lookout for instances where I can be shown to be wrong, and adapting my viewpoint accordingly.
What I want in my limited decades of life, is to understand as many true things as possible and reject as many untrue things as possible. (And leave as 'don't know' all those things for which there's no strong evidence for one way or another).
I agree but would substitute the word frightened with the word insecurity. Most of us are living our lives running from our insecurities.
If he says this about complex problems then why is his answer/view on the complex problem of whether a country should belong to a union of 27 countries or be outside that union so simple?
He is immature. But has absorbed the English dictionary. Which gives the impression of intelligence.
Because LBC likes to employ hypocrites to lower the standard of broadcasting in the uk
Because he just trips out cliches to suit his agenda.
very interesting, i'm just going to watch laura dodsworth now before thinking about it, she seems to say there is no climate emergency
Is there a way for me to catch recordings of his full show?
Turning a blind eye to the truth has always been a coping mechanism. It's just denial.
Please address the issue of global population growth.
that's what the jab is for
Why James do you look down on people who have a different opinion to you.
because their PoV is dangerous and based on mis-truths
@@johnfrancis8913 🙄
He's a patronising get.
@@johnfrancis8913 The end of the world is nigh!
What are they denying? They don't understand how a light bulb works let alone anything about science/data. They should stick to playing with blocks.
People are taught from an early age to believe things that are not true because it maintains the status quo. A daily act of religious assembly in school mandated by UK law from the age of 5.
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I think it's even simpler, James. People don't believe in what they can't immediately see. People are too weak to acknowledge their responsibilities and change their comfortable status quo.
Most of these people are religious or 'spiritual' though.
I have a fix for “don’t believe what they can’t see”... one involves electricity and another involves a vacuum (as in no air).
@@rwags6848 yes. But this wont take away the immense feeling of entitlement that goes with the above. They feel 'entitled' to air, and wont believe in anything that threatens it until it is taken away. (by which time it is, as with your experiment - too late!)
Gareth Icke, Right Said Fred, Peter Hitchens, Neil Oliver and Ian Brown have all had terrible pandemics. Lost their minds.
You clearly have not found your mind.
They lost their minds before the pandemic.
@@mielerodriguez5678 you take your advice from right said Fred mate 😂
We talking about the flat earthers and their concrete trees that actually grow? 😜
This is the world we seem to be living in these days. Politicians have always lied. But the level it's reach with Boris in No 10 is ridiculous. It's mostly down to social media. We're in an age of fools and cons managing our expectations!
my verdict on james o brien hes barmy.
Cool
I strongly recommend going to the 'Voice of
reason' with Alex Belfield he's spot on 🙂
The woke brigade would have the vapours after five minutes of Alex!👍😂
@@bronte6364 out of interest, who do you define as “ the woke brigade”? I find the expression “ woke” is consistently misused and misunderstood, in order to use it as an insult.
Don’t know much about him -so won’t comment on whether he is the voice of reason or not - but he is about to go to court on 8 charges of stalking….
@@Lynnefromlyn Anyone who see's themselves as the voice of reason probably isn't and i would suggest Alex is the right wing version of that.
@@Lynnefromlyn I too don't particularly like the term woke but in this instance and not using it as an insult almost all the LBC audience are stereotypically 'woke'.
Well put, if only you could put that whole speach into a 5 or less word slogan, then the other side might chant it regardless of understanding it. It might move the needle a bit... probably not?
Amazing that science can never be debated anymore.
You are right. Even if you quote a scientist who is outside the group think solution you are still dismissed as being unscientific and a conspiracy theorist.
Science was never debated in the past.
The denial could be called 'normalcy bias' which is indeed an evolutionary response to potential disasters.
stupidity is an evolutionary response?
sure buddy
In the US there is a definite match between the deniers' mind-set that you just outlined, James, and right-wing ideology. That is the scary part, and it's coming to a cinema Near You!
‘My Dad’
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Ahahahahaha omg I get it! It's because he's adopted!! Ahahahahahahahahahah I'm in tears, you're so witty!!!
If that's so it's an insult to your farther, son.
How do you compete against the claim that building a win turbine has a larger carbon footprint than power the wind turbine will ever create? This is the latest argument I’m up against and can’t find any research on it. I’m talking from mining, smelting, building, transportation to construction. Any help would be appreciated
When science becomes partisan, it's time to worry.
Science is never partisan
This guy is a clown.
Individualism divides us and makes us vulnerable to the predators that sink to fleece. No matter what the issue.
I think this is very fundamental to a lot of problems with the world today globally.
It's nice to see the comment section before it's been 'tidied up'.
And there goes James who accuses the government of lying on brexit but believes every word about climate change
@Pale Rider Do the right wing not believe in Climate change?
Very true, their pants were on fire when they told us about Brexit but now every word is set in stone. James believes what suits.
@Pale Rider no he isn’t
Because the evidence is based on science you utter melt
@@jameshansing5396 more than one kind of sicence open your mind little man in your mother's back bedroom
Blaming oneself is a symtom of self loathing. A very common problem these days.
Listening to this explanation kind of brought me back to childhood.. when Santa was real.
It’ll all be down to Brexit though won’t it James?
Of course, EVERYTHING is
i guess you think brexit has made things better ?
@@petermeichan3160
ere we go, hahahahahaha. Get back in your basket!
@@petermeichan3160 My god....a throwaway remark about O’Brien’s obsession and you fall for it, hook and line. Get over it mate and get on with life.
@@nick1065 I was just asking you a question, was I too subtle
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. "
- Theadore Dalrymple
Not relevant here. James is talking about the Right's denial of science.
@@Mogwai-ug9op
It's his general tactic...
Employed against anyone who dares hold a different opinion.
That's certainly part of it no doubt.. The other part is selfishness, which also is an evolutionary trait that's been fueled by multiple streams that helps to exasperated the problem.
Yes, selfishness seems to be a large factor as well.
As is authoritarianism.
Each time I try to empathize with deniers, I forget what I'm trying to do.
There's a big grey area between deniers and climate Alarmism ( which he adheres to), which is all a bit too technical for O Brien.
@@hufclufc
Climate alarmists are the only ones telling the truth as it is, because climate change will have a domino effect. This coming from someone studying climate change
James o'brien deals with absolutes. Which in layman's terms means intolerance and a lack of ability to understand or empathise with people who have had a different life experience.
This is the perfect description of O'Brien himself
As someone who listens to him, I disagree.
The fact that you have gone out of your way to write that suggests more about yourself than anything else
@@jameshansing5396 You sound clever.
@@andrewburman9469 pretty much the expected level of response though 👍🏿
Tasmania was once part of Australia James. Due to the climate changing the ocean rose and it went under water,but no one was around to let carbon off James. You peddle absolute propaganda. Bet you drove to work James
and Europe and the British Isles were connected by a land bridge as were Alaska and Russia. There was also no landbridge between the North and South Americas, the Mediterraenian sea was smaller, the Sahara was green steppeland, the region that now is Iran and Irak was birthplace to the first civilisations with lush vegetation.
What everybody who is earnest about climate change will tell you - in case you care to listen - is that it is not only the change itself but the SPEED of the change that is worrysome. What you mention and what I listed changed over the course of thousands of years. What we are seeing right now will change within a 100 or maybe 150 years. Which is too fast for any ecosystem to adapt. Therefore we will see a vast mass extinction of animals and plants. And it may also be too fast for humans to adapt.
Is this change taking millions of years too? What a facile argument 🙄
@@lazytitan9987 what exactly is meant to take millions of years?
@@toono21 climate change and the separation of land masses.
@@lazytitan9987 and is it not? besides dogger were here just few thousands years ago and so were scilly isles as a part of gb.
Not just what we're told about climate crisis, but all the other bits that many people may not even be aware of. Like urbanisation, monoculture, soil conservation, mineral extraction, ocean acidification, etc.
discomfort with ambiguity, need for epistemic closure, and poor executive functioning.
Another nothing statement from this man. His omission of logic in his ability to reason his positions is almost infantile. Why don't you try and defend your position rather than merely discredit those that don't agree with you?
@MadArticDriver I did say "almost". 😉
Barley lasted 20 seconds b4 mentioning brexit
Bless the soy
@MadArticDriver
Ohhh noooo
Another one that's afraid of different views
Bless the sheep
My ninety plus year old mother, was complaining/commenting on the unusual weather where she lives, and when I replied that it’s because of climate change, she rolled her eyes, and said that I was being silly..!..!..!..
Unfortunately, she has swallowed the lies from the tories, and big business, which means that she is unable to listen to the facts of climate change, and even though she will comment on how unusual the weather is, she is unable to see what is causing it..!..!..!..
This phenomena has always existed (I'm a bit older to say that). It is nowadays heavily amplified due to the existence of social media. In seems to be part of humanity's (sometimes odd and not homogeneous) learning curve. Strong religious belief seems also to be a branch of this kind of experience, in my view which is part of a very specific learning curve and might be assessing all this wrongly. Or right. This theory assumes that learning curves spans over multiple lives (nobody keeps dumb forever! and the engine of humanity's evolution is the difference) Brgds
His opinion of climate deniars is very similar to my opinion of him and grooming gangs
This is essentially why we need to start looking at religion. A publicly accepted form of belief in nothing. We live in the 21st century, we know better. We need to start treating the belief in things that aren't there as a social negative and we need to start with religion.
My life as an Atheist is a lot easier without the fear of man made gods and ridiculous afterlives. But if you think you can prevent the brainwashing of children into whatever religion parents or others believe in so they can pass it on to their children then you are setting yourelf an impossible task there. It is a religous technique that has stood the test of time for milleniums. Take Care. 👍
I would consider myself a religious person. But also recognise the absurdity of this position. In many ways (and for reasons I won't bore you with), I kind of have to force myself to believe in religion.
But I absolutely agree with you, at least in terms of taking religion of its pedestal. If someone wants to believe in something, then fine, but religious beliefs should not be given the level of protection that its given.
@@harryp7346 Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I understand that perhaps my comment may not be sensitive enough for those who are religious. I respect you as a person and more so now after your comment. We see similarity in religious belief, anti covid vax, the great trump lie and other ideas all wrapped up in the ability to suspend reality. I just feel that we need to come to terms with this. Have a wonderful day.
Can we have a theory on people who use vast amounts of electricity to tell people what to think.
What?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 your village is missing you
Nails it.
*Provide one shred of evidence!*
With regard to what?
@@howler6490 ANYTHING! /s
Only if you promise to not automatically dismiss it.
I find James amazing. On every issue he is always right and other people, who he can read the minds of, are always wrong.
The desire to believe that dangers DO exist is equally as strong, if not more so. Thus, the simple decisions that have been made recently may not be the answer to a problem that might or might not exist.
I refer to this as wishful thinking, believing what you want to be true rather than what the evidence says you should.
Yawn!
Cool comment bro
I see James O'brien, I downvote
Awesome video.
I legit sometimes wonder if I'm the crazy one. SO many people are so sure about such batty into that I just cant believe the insanity.
My goodness this person is seriously deluded. I know he prides himself on his intellect but basic common sense and reality is beyond him. He truly does live in a tiny world of his own.
@MadArticDriver Do you people cut and paste the old Facebook ,UA-cam accusation? Tut tut. Very lazy.
@@bronte6364 97.7% consensus on climate change amongst climate scientists and you think "hes living in a tiny world of his own". If he is its inhabited by the experts.
The idea that a tiny fraction of our atmosphere (carbon dioxide) magically "accumulates heat" contradicts the laws of thermodynamics - Do they think we were born yesterday?
who said it does it magically ?? Just because you dont understand it doesnt make it magic haha.
@@joedowning2428 he hasn't answered you joe
- Stick to your gender studies son....
@James Smith Well, James, to many science is "magic". You better get wise and learn some physics.
@@Stefan_Dahn
James Smith
16 hours ago
- Stick to your gender studies son....
i think joe might have lost the argument here lolol
It's easier to ignore the facts that's the bottom line unfortunately
We're not deniers, we're just a bit exasperated that it's us, the poor, who will disproportionately have to foot the bill (it's happening already anyway in the case of the enablement of electric cars). Also, and probably more exasperated by the fact that there isn't some kind of invisible cordon in the skies above the likes of china and russia preventing their massive pollution from seeping out despite people here basically acting as if there is. This is essentially nimbyism so china can continue to do what they do, paid for by the people who can least afford it. Not an ideal state of affairs and if we're not careful about this we will basically just create the conditions for the suffering of certain social strata sooner than we've even been predicting.
For sure. A person who doesn't want to be hanged because there has been a miscarriage of justice isn't a capitol punishment denier.
I love James. I live in the U.S. and I search for him everyday. He speaks my language. However, his beautiful classy English accent is much better than my Brooklyn, NY accent. 😀😷
You sound desperate.
So, when will Gob be having Patrick Moore or Judith Curry on his show? I guess that's about as likely as him reducing his own huge "carbon footprint", or moving to a "diverse" part of London.
He earns a lot of money pretending to agree with whatever the far-left Twitter banshees are screaming about. In many ways, one can't really blame him for taking advantage. Privately, I'm sure he detests his rabid fanclub as much as anyone does.
And as if by magic, you prove his point entirely
You know if you get a million scientist who agree and a hundred that don’t, you do not go with the 100 that do not, because you go with the consensus
This is why we cannot have nice things, dumb takes like yours
Pretty sure Patrick Moore died like 9 years ago, pal. Are you lending him your time machine?
@@brettarmer3584 absolutely. This person is the prime example of how the dunning-kruger effect works.
I don't think he does. He's found a niche and ain't gonna let it go. Wish he would leave then they get Swarbrick on a bit earlier.
I live in a state where we have heavy snow every winter since I was a child. This year we only had a few days of very light snow. It was mostly in the 40 all winter. The is a major difference. The greed and stupidity of man's suicidal nature.
It's people who will take not one step backward on their greed tapping into the contempt of mean-spirited people towards what they are told are people acting self-righteously.
No to discriminatory vaccine passports
Why?
Agree !
Get a grip
You do realise that vaccine passports (or paperwork) have been around a lot longer than the current pandemic.
Yes to requiring proof of vaccination to prevent infecting others and spreading the virus!
Some iteresting points of view im reading in the comments section a truly great debate hmm? I can remember when the public went crazy in the 80s to early 90s with the ozone layer issue saying we had only 20 years at the most left untill the world would be too hot for mammal life to survive... amazing that we are still here living and kicking almost 3 decades later and the topic hasn't been mainstream in years at all tossed aside hmm? I do believe it was damaged but no way to the extent lead to believe back then, I think it's because thoses in government and the bunch of gov backed scientists around them have said so much in the near past what hasn't come to pass leaving many in doubt to what such orgsnisations say in the future like in the term "fool me once fool me twice but not a third time" I personally do believe we have a issue but again the seriousness I believe is blown far out of proportio. What i do know is the earth can heal from anything destructive we throw at it considering we are just another existence on it as in "the plate cant be broken but the food can always be replaced wether by going bad only to rot away as in self harm or be cleared away by the actual eater alone" hmm but yeh great debate
You do realise that the very chemicals which were found to be damaging the ozone layer were globally banned? This worldwide action has resulted in the hole in the ozone layer shrinking and luckily we did something quick enough to reverse the damage....
@@nipstyler yes I have heard of a world unity ban on some bad materials a while back but remember not all countries get along with each other and that filters down to leading companies in thoses countries its fragile ground for break ups in world deals arrangements treaties of the like especially when money is at the hilt billion dollar/ pound/ yen etc whatever territory quite a few companies with power slip through unfortunately theres many loopholes in the law biggest companies use this and recieve a hand slap but if navigated smartly by judges they find a way to continue to do their thing. Just out of the spotlight less attention it happens unfortunatly
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@@damienhowell3727 Are you seriously saying we shouldn't bother because a small percentage of the world ignore the law..?
@@nipstyler let's not put words in my mouth all I can say is not everything is as it seems and one should never put all their cards on the table and following the masses as no coin has every only had one side to it even if that's what some choose to believe but again it's a choice
It's also the reason people believe in God's, afterlife, heaven and supernatural nonsense
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In that case people should be free to deny global warming, climate change nonsense,
Investigate what morals Eton teaches. John le Carre taught there and he wrote a new afterword in his first novel that an Eton student is firstly an Etonian first and a Citizen second. Cameron and Boris were both Etonians.
That's fascinating; I'd love to hear him talk about that some more.
Well done. I’m an American living in Dublin. I appreciate your comments. Brilliant. 🙌
Have you got a decent excuse for being subscribed to MSNBC?
What does that even mean Laura?
I'm still waiting for the second ice age that doom mongers said was a definite certainty in the 1970s ,bring them to a tribunal to answer for their false predictions
@MadArticDriver - They thought it was true then and it’s no different to today. Science could change in another 40 years and they start telling us we’re cooling again. Why is today’s science the right one all of a sudden that can never change and will always be infallible ?
_I'm still waiting for the second ice age that doom mongers said was a definite certainty in the 1970_
How about you name those doom-mongers and list the publications where they sold that doom... if you do that, you will learn a very valuable lesson about what science actually said and what people 50 years later are claiming science was saying. Here's a hint to get you going: the scientific consensus in 1970 was that the earth was warming and would continue to warm as a result of human activity.
@@colliehouse3133 the preponderance of evidence is that there is an increase in average global temperatures that grew faster at about the time that humans started burning large amounts of fossil fuels. If this is not controlled the ecological damage will be immense. The majority of scientist could be wrong but if they are not, doing nothing will cause harm to the planet and a lot of human suffering
@@colliehouse3133 They didn't. Lots of people say things about what climate science was saying in 1970, but they never cite the papers that made those claims.
@@molybdomancer195 -Then why has Germany turned off all their nuclear power plants and are burning thousands of tonnes of coal to create their power now? This was quite recent and as you say, the climate change science was known then and they still did it.
As an individual the only thing you can do to make a measurable difference is to vote out any government who is not willing to act.
I think people creating their own beliefs, claiming it is Christianity, or any mythology even, is responsible for people creating their own delusion of how the world works.
It's democratisation of the truth. The truth today, is what people choose to believe is true. People today are tired of scientists telling them things they don't understand.
Really????
Then why are the majority listening to them?
Go back to your cave.
@@coppershark1973 if the majority were in fact listening, we'd have a green party government.
@@coppershark1973 majority is listening to them while doing nothing for the last 40 years? Lol
I think cave suits you more than anyone else.
I understand Junk in Junk out models.
@@mielerodriguez5678 I bet you don't.
Flat earth should be on your list, James
People believe what they want to believe.
If you try to tell someone a fact that isn't in their interests they'll demand extensive proof and look for the slightest pretext to disregard it.
If it exonerates them or otherwise is in their interest they'll kick in their own lies to back you up
depends on who you ask ....The climate crisis is becoming a financial crisis.
This month, the largest homeowner insurance company in California, State Farm, announced that it would stop selling coverage to homeowners. That’s not just in wildfire zones, but everywhere in the state.
Insurance companies, tired of losing money, are raising rates, restricting coverage or pulling out of some areas altogether - making it more expensive for people to live in their homes
“Risk has a price,” said Roy Wright, the former official in charge of insurance at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and now head of the Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety, a research group. “We’re just now seeing it.”
In parts of eastern Kentucky ravaged by storms last summer, the price of flood insurance is set to quadruple. In Louisiana, the top insurance official says the market is in crisis, and is offering millions of dollars in subsidies to try to draw insurers to the state.
And in much of Florida, homeowners are increasingly struggling to buy storm coverage. Most big insurers have pulled out of the state already, sending homeowners to smaller private companies that are straining to stay in business - a possible glimpse into California’s future if more big insurers leave.
I can refer you to Dunning-Kruger.
Yes, when you boil most thinking down, it’s wishful thinking.
True , why else is religion not dead .
As an american watching this. His impression of his own people is spot on lol
Hes a simplistic character.
An evolutionary drive to believe things that are not true doesn’t make sense to me. I’d have thought that the survival instinct would incline us to consider/take threats seriously rather than bury our heads in the sand.
People always go for the cheaper option. If the governments make green tech financially attractive to the peoples pocket whatever side of the debate you sit is irrelevant.
Affordability is why most people buy what they buy. Green technologies need a viable business model that will be successful. If it is right people will buy into it regardless and without over thinking it.
James O'Brien should have been invited to stand up at Cop26 and repeat exactly what he just said here.
Why? It was tedious and irrelevant.
@@hufclufc ...and yet you watched it till the end. If not then you are not in any position to comment on it.. If you did then it obviously wasn't that tedious.
@Pale Rider ...and yet you watched it. If you are not one of the 10 people then why do you watch people you don't like?