Lol, I can't disagree 😅 but I said this is aimed at someone who been living with a 125 for a while and is looking for an upgrade. Or at least this is how I done it anyway back then. The new emerging 400cc market didn't really exist back then, which I am open to explore my self in the future before i start dissing 400cc bikes👍
I just came back from test riding the 765RS. Definitely NOT a beginner bike. I am coming from a 48hp 500cc, and even then I could feel that if I wasn't careful I would fly off the back.
@@stefaandeswert377 You get your entry lesson on a category A licence motorcycle? How can a category A be an entry level, if its the most advanced licence?
I don't agree, i own a Street Triple RS, I've ridden a bit of everything in my life and I can say with certainty that it IS NOT a bike for beginners, mine with full titanium exaust, filter and map, has 130 hp at the wheel (almost a Moto2 GP ) and then weighs only 160 kg. (with flip-on titanium exhaust). In the mountains you can fight with the Hyper 1000 without problems... Being a naked one it also has very short gears, no my friend, it's not a bike for beginners at all. I've never tried the Aprilia and I can't comment on it.
I can't disagree with what you are saying, but this goes for any bike. There are no slow bikes anymore, but you can certainly ride to your own ability. I have a friend who started on the triumph after being on a 125cc for less than a year and because of how easy it is to ride it has given him alot of confidence to build his speed on it. Now, I am sure he also realises that there is plenty of power under him that can bite him at any time.
And then there is the KTM Duke 890R. More torque More fun. Better handling than the Triumph. Way better on rougher road surfaces (which unfortunately we have a lot of here) And you can turn the Wheelie controll off without disabling the tracktion control off completely. Before buying I test rode the 765 RS, the new Ducati Monster, Ducati Hypermotard 950SP, the new MT-09sp. Tried to test ride the MV Agusta Brutale & Dragster but could not find any demo rides. For me the KTM Duke 890R was just better than any of those. 22000km later I still love it.
The rs660 has been the best bike I’ve owned and I’ve owned 1000ccs and yes there fun asf but can’t beat how much more fun you can have in corners with a tuned 600
@@22Epic No it's not. 1st and 2nd gear are neutered in Commute. A little better in Dynamic and the front wheel comes up in Challenge. You would need to actually use full throttle to discover this.
Ktm duke 250 is a beginner bike but again not a first bike because for a first bike it should be a below 100cc engine. I myself ride a Ducati monster 821 from 2016 and also Triumph street triple RS 2014 model but I started riding a 97cc scoter first for 9 years before buying my first bike which was a yamaha 150cc bike . so start slow and be good at it before upgrading. You will drop your first bike keep that in mind.
Rs660 is in a weird price bracket. It costs way too much and for about the same money you can get a very lightly used panigale V2 which is drastically better.
Non of those are beginner bikes. 400/500s and lower are beginner bikes. Those have way too much power for someone that has never ridden a motorcycle. Sure you could stsrt on a 1000cc sportsbike but that is definetely not ideal.
Not really though. I've ridden both these bikes and others with well over 600cc. No experience except for test rides and my license tests. I understand what you are saying but I believe what they mean with starter niks is CAN you ride these bikes as a beginner. And that answer is hell yes
"These two incredible machines are in the market targetting beginner riders someone who started on a 125cc and looking to step up to a bigger bike" End of the joke.
Both bikes are for sure not really "beginner bikes"... Or is every bike under 150 bhp a beginner bike in today's world 🤣😅🙈 ???
Lol, I can't disagree 😅 but I said this is aimed at someone who been living with a 125 for a while and is looking for an upgrade. Or at least this is how I done it anyway back then. The new emerging 400cc market didn't really exist back then, which I am open to explore my self in the future before i start dissing 400cc bikes👍
I just came back from test riding the 765RS. Definitely NOT a beginner bike. I am coming from a 48hp 500cc, and even then I could feel that if I wasn't careful I would fly off the back.
Lol here in Belgium we get our entry lessons on a 650 so .. I guess so yeah
@@stefaandeswert377 You get your entry lesson on a category A licence motorcycle? How can a category A be an entry level, if its the most advanced licence?
@@Cobalt1520 because that's how it is here. If you got for an A license and not an A1 you get your lessons on a 650.
Didn’t watch the video but will answer your question. Both bikes are not beginners bike.
In what world 100(+) hp and cost over 10k are bikes for a new rider?
I don't agree, i own a Street Triple RS, I've ridden a bit of everything in my life and I can say with certainty that it IS NOT a bike for beginners, mine with full titanium exaust, filter and map, has 130 hp at the wheel (almost a Moto2 GP ) and then weighs only 160 kg. (with flip-on titanium exhaust). In the mountains you can fight with the Hyper 1000 without problems... Being a naked one it also has very short gears, no my friend, it's not a bike for beginners at all. I've never tried the Aprilia and I can't comment on it.
I can't disagree with what you are saying, but this goes for any bike. There are no slow bikes anymore, but you can certainly ride to your own ability. I have a friend who started on the triumph after being on a 125cc for less than a year and because of how easy it is to ride it has given him alot of confidence to build his speed on it. Now, I am sure he also realises that there is plenty of power under him that can bite him at any time.
Idk. I started on an R3. The rs 660 is my next choice. Gonna try to get one next riding season.
Not sure a 100hp Aprillia would be a good idea for a beginner...let alone the triumph..😮 Great comparison video though.
These 2 and the duke 890r are exactly the bikes in which i am considering.
Good vid very informative, maybe an RS vs R vid next?
Possibly mate👍
And then there is the KTM Duke 890R.
More torque
More fun.
Better handling than the Triumph.
Way better on rougher road surfaces (which unfortunately we have a lot of here)
And you can turn the Wheelie controll off without disabling the tracktion control off completely.
Before buying I test rode the 765 RS, the new Ducati Monster, Ducati Hypermotard 950SP, the new MT-09sp.
Tried to test ride the MV Agusta Brutale & Dragster but could not find any demo rides.
For me the KTM Duke 890R was just better than any of those.
22000km later I still love it.
Totally agree all the dukes are amazing
890 duke is a sick bike but too many horror stories with them. Can't trust ktm at the moment.
The rs660 has been the best bike I’ve owned and I’ve owned 1000ccs and yes there fun asf but can’t beat how much more fun you can have in corners with a tuned 600
How's reliability been?
dont tell anyone but none of them is a beginner bike
You are in Commute mode on RS660. Change to Dynamic and you will see huge torque difference.
Thanks 👍
Torque is the same in Commute and Dynamic modes.
@@22Epic No it's not. 1st and 2nd gear are neutered in Commute. A little better in Dynamic and the front wheel comes up in Challenge. You would need to actually use full throttle to discover this.
@@samanthagregoryurich4167 You're the one not using it, maybe an issue with your wrist? Hope you get better soon!
@@22Epic Nothing like hostile ignorance to brighten my day.
Ktm duke 250 is a beginner bike but again not a first bike because for a first bike it should be a below 100cc engine. I myself ride a Ducati monster 821 from 2016 and also Triumph street triple RS 2014 model but I started riding a 97cc scoter first for 9 years before buying my first bike which was a yamaha 150cc bike . so start slow and be good at it before upgrading. You will drop your first bike keep that in mind.
Yes mate that's fair but that's the route I took my self I had a 125cc then a 600cc and it turned out to be just 👍
No it's not
you cant compare these 2. its more tuono 660 vs the trident 660.
Rs660 is in a weird price bracket. It costs way too much and for about the same money you can get a very lightly used panigale V2 which is drastically better.
That's a beast of a bike
zx6r and r6 are inline 4, this bike is a twin
Non of those are beginner bikes. 400/500s and lower are beginner bikes. Those have way too much power for someone that has never ridden a motorcycle.
Sure you could stsrt on a 1000cc sportsbike but that is definetely not ideal.
Not really though. I've ridden both these bikes and others with well over 600cc. No experience except for test rides and my license tests. I understand what you are saying but I believe what they mean with starter niks is CAN you ride these bikes as a beginner. And that answer is hell yes
The RS660 can be restricted, so it's a nice beginner bike. Maybe expensive for a beginner but definitively not too much power.
You're high on some shit if you think either one of these are a good bike to start on.
Im trying to find a Guy that don't like this bike
"These two incredible machines are in the market targetting beginner riders someone who started on a 125cc and looking to step up to a bigger bike"
End of the joke.
Beginner bike? I dont think so ,is not a 125 cc ,more of 60 hp for the city and road its just to much