Not my preference, but another great video and a fair assessment of technology. I appreciate the merits of Apple products, they're great machines and I understand why people like them; but for my workflow, which includes Notch, TouchDesigner, and Resolume I would rather spend Mac money on a Windows beast. We also only use XDJ consoles or CDJ's for performances, no laptops; but Apples makes undeniably great looking computers that compliment clean DJ setups.
I appreciate you finding value in this video. The internet has not been kind to me for this one lol. Windows isn’t bad, but it’s definitely harder to use than Mac. That’s the main reason I recommend Mac for DJ use. It’s user friendly and you really have to try to break them.
Back in 1995 I started out with a Mac, but realized that so much more was available on PC, so I made the switch. And 30 years later, PC has worked pretty well. No big issues to report.
I’ve managed both on a large scale. I’ve had way more issues with PCs than Mac’s. However, everyone’s experience is different. I’m happy yours is a positive one.
What a ridiculous premise. DJs should use what works for them. Period. Hard stop. End of story. If you want to use a controller, use a controller. If you want to use the sync button, use the sync button. If you want to advertise on the Knot, do that. If you want to use a laptop with Windows, OF COURSE, you should do that.
Never seen a real dj without an Apple unless it’s a USB stick into hardware. Not talking about wedding dj’s, show business, concerts, it’s all Mac. Same with recording studios. Sorry. Statistics.
Well..my DJ Laptops windows based are only for DJing and never touch the internet. So they are a closed system. They only run VDJ. So I have no concerns about multiple programs and virus issues. Music only gets added by a music only HDD that I transfer music onto from my work PC and which is fully scanned before connecting to my DJ laptop. So it's as close to a closer ecosystem as possible. The never hit the web. At events I use Spotify on my iPad in the unlikely event I need a quick song from the Web. I suppose if someone is using their DJ laptop for other things, which sounds weird to me, then maybe Apple might be better. Or if they are streaming their music, they may be safer from malware and hackers. Performance wise, at this point, Lenovo Think Pads are tanks. Today's performance of even slower processes can handle any DJ software.
@@djtechtipsif paying extortionate amounts of money is what you want to do, then Mac is perfect. If you want a working system where you are the owner of your own hardware, get a PC. Though if Rekordbox would run on Linux I would have installed Linux. But at least I get to choose the hardware and don't support a scummy company like Apple.
Youre really stretching the phrase "working system". Windows only works well with users that are able to properly manage them. If you want something that just works all of the time then Mac is the only way to go.
@@djtechtips a few years back, maybe. Nowadays Windows is much better. My 2014 machine still runs on the Windows installation of the first day... From Windows 8 to 10 to 11 (ok, unsupported, but bypassed with Rufus). 3 upgrades. No problems. My 2018 machine is reinstalled from the Microsoft ISO, so no vendor crap at all. Also no tuning done for audio or whatever. With Mac "the things Apple allows you to do with a Mac" work. If you want to venture outside of those things you're in for a ride... Also the artificial hurdles they put in place to make it impossible to repair or upgrade the machine you've bought for example. I could get the ram as it's part of the SOC. That has an advantage. But the SSD's that aren't upgradable don't have an excuse. That's pure greed. And Mac OS lacks stuff that drives me crazy as well. The window management is atrocious. You need a separate tool for it to have any. Lol. Whenever I see Apple fanboys shout how much Windows sucks it's because they compare their expensive Mac to the bottom of the barrel crap laptop. If you don't buy cheap crap PC's they also just work.
I can't agree. My video editing/gaming rig is a spec beast. I went stupid overboard. I still run into issues every now and again. Luckily I have experience in IT, and can troubleshoot and fix. I will always say the safest way to go for the common user is Mac.
As a fellow IT tech, I've worked with both Mac and PC as well. Personally, I am very content using a Windows PC. Currently, I have a gaming laptop with an i7 running Windows 11 Pro 64 bit and the most current version of Serato. It originally came with 16 GB and 512 GB of storage. I've upgraded the memory to 64 GB and will be upgrading the SSD to a 2 TB and adding a 4 TB. The points you raise are valid but I'm usually on point with updates of Serato and Windows 11. I have had zero problems with my system freezing, crashing, etc. But the key with Windows is to ensure that the updates (hardware and software) are done before the event.
And that’s why I recommend Mac. You’re an IT tech, so you know what goes into keeping Windows running right. Macs don’t need as much TLC. Thank you for the watch, I really appreciate it.
@@djtechtips My view is that most DJs don't always take the time to ensure the drivers and Windows are updated before the performance. I personally tend to go several days out and even the morning of to make sure I don't get surprised.
@@djtechtips Absolutely. I deal with that issue almost every day because someone at my job didn't do the necessary updates. Case in point, I just updated my DJ laptop to Win 11 Pro 24H2, and Serato 3.2.3.
@@djtechtips To me, it's not about the tool used but the skill, music, and the craft itself. I have heard some DJs who use Macs blend atrociously where some PC based DJs flow smoothly.
I remember when my brother had the Macintosh for making music, it didn’t make sense to me because I used all of the actual hardware etc, and this was in the late 80’s to early 90’s. I had gotten into producing music with PC but always had a problem for some reason until I switched to Mac, my wife converted me to Mac lol and now that I’m also back to DJ’ing it’s Mac. It’s been good to me so I’m good with it. Thanks for the video, very informative.
@ so true, I’m cool with PC, but I found myself having to be an IT guy instead of being creative with music, even though I learned enough by watching how to videos and buying books. But I needed something that wouldn’t take up my time and just work straight away.
@ yup that’s why I test it. I gotta M1 but I never really tested it outdoors much because my last MacBook got cooked but since you say the m1 can survive the heat I trust your words wise one 😁💪🏽
I have a 4k dollars windows laptop and it never had any probs or crashes. And of course u just need more ram and storage which the lower end windows usually lacks
I have used Windows in the music and tech area since WIN95. I am system admin with 25yrs experience. If you know what you are doing, you can use Windows. If you want to be lazy and let apple control your life, switch. Also, if you are looking to flex that, you have money to waste, switch. Besides, there is a "be the cool kid club like all the other DJ;s". ---- But dude, honestly, you sound like someone (Apple) is paying for this video. Thanks for wasting my time with your misplaced ad.
You sound like you know what you’re talking about and it’s clear you’re very passionate about Windows, but I use what I know works for me. I wish Apple was paying me lol. Sorry you feel that way, but thank you for the watch!
They work... until they dont...and you, the user, want to do anything that apple doesn't want you to do. Price to performance... mac is not worth the price of entry.... less flexibility, no upgrade path, and refusal to comply with industry standards... nah i wont go back.
FYI - with automation/AI, ANY OS that has an exploit WILL be attacked because of the ease and number of attacks that can be launched without much user intervention & monitoring. Hacking has become easier.
I've been using Macs since before Steve Jobs came back and the most important thing about the New M1/2/3/4 series chips is that Apple is the only company offing Desktop Level Chips in a Laptop chassis. The M1/2/3/4 Max Chips offer you more than any other option on the PC side. Sure you can get a Beefy mobile CPU (not close to desktop level) and Nvidia Mobile GPU but your battery life will suffer and the trade offs are Mobile lower wattage chips, and they don't look like adult computers. Most PC laptops that compete with the Macbook Pro look like a unicorn vomited a rainbow of RGB lights instead of making the laptop work great. I would rather have a great trackpad than swirling lights that cause seizures. Any PC that looks like it was made for adults will be terribly underpowered compared to the 16 inch Max variant Macbook Pro. Also Core audio is far more stable than any ASIO and the audio/midi setup app in the utilities folder is a game changer for anyone wanting to work with controllers and keyboards.
The M series processors are ridiculous. The fact that the same processor can power a tablet, desktop, and laptop is wild. Windows laptops in general suffer from battery issues. Especially the gaming laptops.
@djtechtips iOS and MacOS keep forcing icloud down my throat even though I had jumped through every hoop and flipped every switch, turning it off... I wanted my content stored locally pushed to my iPad through regular cabled syncs, and at every update of iOS, this "feature" kept getting turned on... resulting in me losing all of my built playlists within itunes/music and somehow all of my crates in serato...... the ecosystem removes any sort of granularity or control in favor of what would seem like a clean appearance... it's curated and engineered to get you to pay more for them to handle things like regular backups instead of the individual taking responsibility for it....(Sheep) and then when it breaks, they say, "Oh well, you should have done X-Y or Z, so sorry, buy the latest and greatest, and you won't have these problems... but no guarantees... I've moved on... won't go back if at all possible, and even then, it will be plug in and unplug... dont want to corrupt my hard drives with foolishness
If Rekordbox would be available for Linux, I would kick Windows and Mac to the curb, instantly. Sorry, but Mac hardware is not rugged enough and way overpriced. Everything Apple makes is made to be unnecessarily slim. Macs are not upgradable. Do not even think about repairs. Hackintosh is some kind of a good option, if you have the right hardware and get it running. But they aren't future proof and there are some legal obstacles. This leaves me with Windows for now. Windows 11 works fine, when doing some research on the hardware and how to setup it up properly.
I've used PC's for years and years and just yesterday purchased a M4 2024 Mac Air just for Stems, another dj friend got a Gaming Laptop for DJing and we had to spend weeks trying to work out why every so often the audio would skip/glitch, and this is a brand new laptop fresh out of the box, only for VDJ. It just isnt optimised for Audio intense programs We will see how Mac performs but everyone else I know uses mac for Stems / VDJ
That’s my point. You have to get a PC to work right some of the time. Macs just work right out of the box. Congrats on your purchase! Welcome to the dark side lol.
@djtechtips Yeah, turns out it was some Dolby software causing the glitching and windows decided to put the gpu on low power mode all the time! Only on the dark side for the DJ rig not any of my other machines ;) cant get rid of Windows for everything lol
Another ridiculous video with lots of questionable information, most of which is not DJ Focused. I love that you put in a section "this isn't really DJ Focused" when 99% of your video wasn't DJ Focused. I've been using PC forever. Never had a problem and never felt like I had to be a high level technician to make my PC work with Serato and my controllers. As much as you don't want this to be a "fanboy" video, your lack of specific and tangible differences between PC and Mac, specifically make this a fanboy video. I may give you one more watch to see if I can stomach any more of your content...
Just because you felt that way doesn’t mean everybody else does. Have your opinions my guy. At the end of the day there are people who found value in this. Sorry you’re not one of them 🤷🏻♂️
@djtechtips i just went through some of your other videos, which you directly contradict most of what's in this video. Pretty sure this was AI Written clickbait. Good luck with the channel.
Everyone commenting who uses windows most likely has never paid their mortgage or rent as a DJ. Same with recording studios. Apple statistically dominates the space for a reason. Unix, battery performance, durability, speed of repairability, and access to the exact same model that can run the exact same OS. Please don’t cry, it’s just business.
There is a reason why all the big names use Apple. It’s user friendly, secure, and the performance is amazing. Windows users hate to hear it, but it’s the truth. Not bashing windows because I love my editing computer (windows). I just know first hand that it’s easy to mess up something in windows. Mac keeps standard users far away from critical files. Thank you for watching!!!
Not my preference, but another great video and a fair assessment of technology. I appreciate the merits of Apple products, they're great machines and I understand why people like them; but for my workflow, which includes Notch, TouchDesigner, and Resolume I would rather spend Mac money on a Windows beast. We also only use XDJ consoles or CDJ's for performances, no laptops; but Apples makes undeniably great looking computers that compliment clean DJ setups.
I appreciate you finding value in this video. The internet has not been kind to me for this one lol. Windows isn’t bad, but it’s definitely harder to use than Mac. That’s the main reason I recommend Mac for DJ use. It’s user friendly and you really have to try to break them.
Back in 1995 I started out with a Mac, but realized that so much more was available on PC, so I made the switch. And 30 years later, PC has worked pretty well. No big issues to report.
I’ve managed both on a large scale. I’ve had way more issues with PCs than Mac’s. However, everyone’s experience is different. I’m happy yours is a positive one.
What a ridiculous premise. DJs should use what works for them. Period. Hard stop. End of story.
If you want to use a controller, use a controller. If you want to use the sync button, use the sync button. If you want to advertise on the Knot, do that. If you want to use a laptop with Windows, OF COURSE, you should do that.
Absolutely, but the fact still remains Mac’s are faster, more efficient, and more secure.
Never seen a real dj without an Apple unless it’s a USB stick into hardware. Not talking about wedding dj’s, show business, concerts, it’s all Mac. Same with recording studios. Sorry. Statistics.
@@thisaintart Do you believe that wedding DJs are not DJs?
Ever since I started watching your videos I’ve turned DJ career around. I now book 70-80 events a year and have a 4.5 star rating on yelp
😂
I've used a PC since Serato came out.
If it works for you it works.
I dont take advice from DJ's with uncentered audio.
This video is unwatchable due to feeling like I'm going deaf in one ear, LMAO.
That’s on your end dude. It’s coming out fine over here. It’s recorded in stereo. Definitely a you problem.
Well..my DJ Laptops windows based are only for DJing and never touch the internet. So they are a closed system. They only run VDJ. So I have no concerns about multiple programs and virus issues. Music only gets added by a music only HDD that I transfer music onto from my work PC and which is fully scanned before connecting to my DJ laptop. So it's as close to a closer ecosystem as possible. The never hit the web. At events I use Spotify on my iPad in the unlikely event I need a quick song from the Web.
I suppose if someone is using their DJ laptop for other things, which sounds weird to me, then maybe Apple might be better. Or if they are streaming their music, they may be safer from malware and hackers.
Performance wise, at this point, Lenovo Think Pads are tanks.
Today's performance of even slower processes can handle any DJ software.
You’re a disciplined user. Not everyone is. That’s why I recommend Macs. You really can’t mess them up as easy.
@@djtechtipsif paying extortionate amounts of money is what you want to do, then Mac is perfect.
If you want a working system where you are the owner of your own hardware, get a PC.
Though if Rekordbox would run on Linux I would have installed Linux.
But at least I get to choose the hardware and don't support a scummy company like Apple.
Youre really stretching the phrase "working system". Windows only works well with users that are able to properly manage them. If you want something that just works all of the time then Mac is the only way to go.
@@djtechtips a few years back, maybe. Nowadays Windows is much better. My 2014 machine still runs on the Windows installation of the first day... From Windows 8 to 10 to 11 (ok, unsupported, but bypassed with Rufus). 3 upgrades. No problems.
My 2018 machine is reinstalled from the Microsoft ISO, so no vendor crap at all. Also no tuning done for audio or whatever.
With Mac "the things Apple allows you to do with a Mac" work.
If you want to venture outside of those things you're in for a ride...
Also the artificial hurdles they put in place to make it impossible to repair or upgrade the machine you've bought for example. I could get the ram as it's part of the SOC. That has an advantage. But the SSD's that aren't upgradable don't have an excuse. That's pure greed.
And Mac OS lacks stuff that drives me crazy as well. The window management is atrocious. You need a separate tool for it to have any. Lol.
Whenever I see Apple fanboys shout how much Windows sucks it's because they compare their expensive Mac to the bottom of the barrel crap laptop.
If you don't buy cheap crap PC's they also just work.
I can't agree. My video editing/gaming rig is a spec beast. I went stupid overboard. I still run into issues every now and again. Luckily I have experience in IT, and can troubleshoot and fix. I will always say the safest way to go for the common user is Mac.
As a fellow IT tech, I've worked with both Mac and PC as well. Personally, I am very content using a Windows PC. Currently, I have a gaming laptop with an i7 running Windows 11 Pro 64 bit and the most current version of Serato. It originally came with 16 GB and 512 GB of storage. I've upgraded the memory to 64 GB and will be upgrading the SSD to a 2 TB and adding a 4 TB.
The points you raise are valid but I'm usually on point with updates of Serato and Windows 11. I have had zero problems with my system freezing, crashing, etc. But the key with Windows is to ensure that the updates (hardware and software) are done before the event.
And that’s why I recommend Mac. You’re an IT tech, so you know what goes into keeping Windows running right. Macs don’t need as much TLC. Thank you for the watch, I really appreciate it.
@@djtechtips My view is that most DJs don't always take the time to ensure the drivers and Windows are updated before the performance. I personally tend to go several days out and even the morning of to make sure I don't get surprised.
Thats huge. Good on you for being proactive. Not many people realize how important keeping you drivers up to date is on a PC.
@@djtechtips Absolutely. I deal with that issue almost every day because someone at my job didn't do the necessary updates.
Case in point, I just updated my DJ laptop to Win 11 Pro 24H2, and Serato 3.2.3.
@@djtechtips To me, it's not about the tool used but the skill, music, and the craft itself. I have heard some DJs who use Macs blend atrociously where some PC based DJs flow smoothly.
Interesting I might consider the idea
It’s the way to go.
I remember when my brother had the Macintosh for making music, it didn’t make sense to me because I used all of the actual hardware etc, and this was in the late 80’s to early 90’s. I had gotten into producing music with PC but always had a problem for some reason until I switched to Mac, my wife converted me to Mac lol and now that I’m also back to DJ’ing it’s Mac. It’s been good to me so I’m good with it. Thanks for the video, very informative.
PCs are great if you want to put the effort into optimizing them. Macs just work right out of the box. That’s why I love them so much.
@ so true, I’m cool with PC, but I found myself having to be an IT guy instead of being creative with music, even though I learned enough by watching how to videos and buying books. But I needed something that wouldn’t take up my time and just work straight away.
Thats where Macs shine the brightest.
1:53 "There are those programs out there that have their own unique user interfaces"
*Looks at DJ software*
He's talking about all y'all
100% lol
In Vegas we just care that they can last longer in the sun heat! Lol
Vegas heat is a whole different animal.
@ yup that’s why I test it. I gotta M1 but I never really tested it outdoors much because my last MacBook got cooked but since you say the m1 can survive the heat I trust your words wise one 😁💪🏽
I mean Pauly D doesn't seem to have an issue.
@@djtechtips they let him do whatever he wants
ARM Protocols are the real reason DJs should use
I agree. Windows is starting to get into ARM, but those machines usually aren't great.
I have a 4k dollars windows laptop and it never had any probs or crashes. And of course u just need more ram and storage which the lower end windows usually lacks
I think it’s all about how you maintain your setup.
I have used Windows in the music and tech area since WIN95. I am system admin with 25yrs experience. If you know what you are doing, you can use Windows. If you want to be lazy and let apple control your life, switch. Also, if you are looking to flex that, you have money to waste, switch. Besides, there is a "be the cool kid club like all the other DJ;s". ---- But dude, honestly, you sound like someone (Apple) is paying for this video. Thanks for wasting my time with your misplaced ad.
You sound like you know what you’re talking about and it’s clear you’re very passionate about Windows, but I use what I know works for me. I wish Apple was paying me lol. Sorry you feel that way, but thank you for the watch!
They work... until they dont...and you, the user, want to do anything that apple doesn't want you to do.
Price to performance... mac is not worth the price of entry.... less flexibility, no upgrade path, and refusal to comply with industry standards... nah i wont go back.
Which for some users is a really really good thing.
FYI - with automation/AI, ANY OS that has an exploit WILL be attacked because of the ease and number of attacks that can be launched without much user intervention & monitoring. Hacking has become easier.
That's a really good point.
I've been using Macs since before Steve Jobs came back and the most important thing about the New M1/2/3/4 series chips is that Apple is the only company offing Desktop Level Chips in a Laptop chassis. The M1/2/3/4 Max Chips offer you more than any other option on the PC side. Sure you can get a Beefy mobile CPU (not close to desktop level) and Nvidia Mobile GPU but your battery life will suffer and the trade offs are Mobile lower wattage chips, and they don't look like adult computers. Most PC laptops that compete with the Macbook Pro look like a unicorn vomited a rainbow of RGB lights instead of making the laptop work great. I would rather have a great trackpad than swirling lights that cause seizures. Any PC that looks like it was made for adults will be terribly underpowered compared to the 16 inch Max variant Macbook Pro. Also Core audio is far more stable than any ASIO and the audio/midi setup app in the utilities folder is a game changer for anyone wanting to work with controllers and keyboards.
The M series processors are ridiculous. The fact that the same processor can power a tablet, desktop, and laptop is wild. Windows laptops in general suffer from battery issues. Especially the gaming laptops.
If you use a PC give me some reasons why you won't make the switch.
The ecosystem is why I won't ever,willingly go back to mac...
Oh man the ecosystem is my favorite feature. Then again it might just be stuck in it so I grew to love it.
Because the OS is simply the middle man between the hardware and software. Turn on the pc and launch the software no time to see the OS.
@djtechtips iOS and MacOS keep forcing icloud down my throat even though I had jumped through every hoop and flipped every switch, turning it off... I wanted my content stored locally pushed to my iPad through regular cabled syncs, and at every update of iOS, this "feature" kept getting turned on... resulting in me losing all of my built playlists within itunes/music and somehow all of my crates in serato...... the ecosystem removes any sort of granularity or control in favor of what would seem like a clean appearance... it's curated and engineered to get you to pay more for them to handle things like regular backups instead of the individual taking responsibility for it....(Sheep) and then when it breaks, they say, "Oh well, you should have done X-Y or Z, so sorry, buy the latest and greatest, and you won't have these problems... but no guarantees... I've moved on... won't go back if at all possible, and even then, it will be plug in and unplug... dont want to corrupt my hard drives with foolishness
I am unwilling to get caught up in the endless upgrade loop. You sound like an end user. There are Mac specific viruses
I started on pc when i first started djing on laptops. I switched within 3 years. I was getting too many viruses and malware on the pc
That’s why I recommend Mac. They take way more effort to mess up.
If Rekordbox would be available for Linux, I would kick Windows and Mac to the curb, instantly. Sorry, but Mac hardware is not rugged enough and way overpriced. Everything Apple makes is made to be unnecessarily slim. Macs are not upgradable. Do not even think about repairs. Hackintosh is some kind of a good option, if you have the right hardware and get it running. But they aren't future proof and there are some legal obstacles. This leaves me with Windows for now. Windows 11 works fine, when doing some research on the hardware and how to setup it up properly.
Windows is a great option if you know how to manage it properly. I’d also love to see a major software adopted in Linux.
I've used PC's for years and years and just yesterday purchased a M4 2024 Mac Air just for Stems, another dj friend got a Gaming Laptop for DJing and we had to spend weeks trying to work out why every so often the audio would skip/glitch, and this is a brand new laptop fresh out of the box, only for VDJ. It just isnt optimised for Audio intense programs
We will see how Mac performs but everyone else I know uses mac for Stems / VDJ
That’s my point. You have to get a PC to work right some of the time. Macs just work right out of the box. Congrats on your purchase! Welcome to the dark side lol.
@djtechtips Yeah, turns out it was some Dolby software causing the glitching and windows decided to put the gpu on low power mode all the time!
Only on the dark side for the DJ rig not any of my other machines ;) cant get rid of Windows for everything lol
I totally get that. My video editing machine is a PC. However, all of my DJ tech is Mac.
Another ridiculous video with lots of questionable information, most of which is not DJ Focused. I love that you put in a section "this isn't really DJ Focused" when 99% of your video wasn't DJ Focused.
I've been using PC forever. Never had a problem and never felt like I had to be a high level technician to make my PC work with Serato and my controllers.
As much as you don't want this to be a "fanboy" video, your lack of specific and tangible differences between PC and Mac, specifically make this a fanboy video.
I may give you one more watch to see if I can stomach any more of your content...
Just because you felt that way doesn’t mean everybody else does. Have your opinions my guy. At the end of the day there are people who found value in this. Sorry you’re not one of them 🤷🏻♂️
@djtechtips i just went through some of your other videos, which you directly contradict most of what's in this video.
Pretty sure this was AI Written clickbait.
Good luck with the channel.
Everyone commenting who uses windows most likely has never paid their mortgage or rent as a DJ. Same with recording studios. Apple statistically dominates the space for a reason. Unix, battery performance, durability, speed of repairability, and access to the exact same model that can run the exact same OS. Please don’t cry, it’s just business.
The biggest name recording consoles use windows. Look up a new NEVE console. Over $50,000 for a console.
There is a reason why all the big names use Apple. It’s user friendly, secure, and the performance is amazing. Windows users hate to hear it, but it’s the truth. Not bashing windows because I love my editing computer (windows). I just know first hand that it’s easy to mess up something in windows. Mac keeps standard users far away from critical files. Thank you for watching!!!
Windows has its place. I recommend Mac because they are more user friendly and secure, but if you’re tech savvy you’re fine with either platform.