In-Depth Fractal Design Define R6 Case Review Tempered Glass Edition
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Watch Mosquito and Bill Owen's in-dept 30 minute 4K video overview of the new Define R6 Tempered Glass edition in Gunmetal Grey for $149.99. The Define R6 is packed with a lot of new features! Fractal Design's Define R6 is tastefully designed and engineered and could be the best mid tower case of 2017.
Since 2007, Fractal Design built their brand by catering to both Silent PC & Liquid Cooling PC enthusiasts. I've had the pleasure of knowing this company and it's staff since 2009. I was the first on UA-cam to review the Fractal Design Define R2. In 2015 Fractal Design invited me to work alongside their engineers in giving them feedback during development stages of their products.
Fractal Design Define R-Series has been their flagship cases since they launched the brand in 2007. The Fractal Design Define R6 was designed from the ground up. Development stages of the Define R6 took several months with stage being meticulously discussed and voted on by staff of Fractal Design HQ in Sweden and U.S. office.
Fractal Design Define R6 Case Pros:
Top ModuVent Vented Filter Panel Latching design. It has metal cover and push button Rear Quick Release
Vented Filtration
Fractal Design Define R6 Seamless Tempered Glass panel design
Simple 3.5 / 2.5 Tray Mounting design.
Cons:
Heaviest Define case to date, but is this really a con?
No front top cover on the PSU shroud of the Fractal Design define R6. Mounting slots are visible, but cover was deleted from final production.
The Define R6 PSU Shroud has rivets instead of screws for easy removal.
The Fractal Design Define R6 is outfitted with a new onboard fan controller. Unfortunately it only has three PWM pins.
Fractal Design built their brand by catering to both Silent PC & Liquid Cooling PC enthusiasts. The Define R-series case has been the Swedish based company's flagship product since their launch in 2007. Fractal Design has always focused on offering the best sound deadening features.The R6 with Tempered Glass panel is the heaviest case in the Define series at 39 pounds. The front door is also insulted for sound and allows reverse mounting. If you're content with the two 140mm GP-14 Define R6 fans included, you can run your R6 in silent mode out of the box.
Correction: the bezel faceplate is brushed aluminum, not plastic. I've published more details and photos of the R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Dear Bill , can you kindly from now one post the link to Alibaba supplier of all these PC cases, so that finally we can get case manufacturers step up the game into selling decent quality stuff instead of this usual Chinese 20 dollars cases that are marked up one million percent?!...please do not get me wrong,,,Case manufacturers do need to be profitable and what they mark up as long as it sells it is fine...but what is not fine is that they selling the same stuff over and over and over for years now...while i think they should be at least 10 years or more ahead in pc case design and quality and features...why do we still need to see 1980 paint, 1980 steel and 1980s plastic? why do we have to be pushed 20 30 dollars stuff at appalling prices that is obsolete even before it is manufactured?!...please if you do want to wish to make cases become better just post the ALIBABA link for these cases that are sold there so case manufacturers will move on into making something new and better that suits contemporary computers rather than end of 1900s ones
Is the top vent wider than the R5? I had to give up trying to place my Corsair H110i cpu cooler radiator/fans up their because the top heatsync of my motherboard stuck out to much. Considering buying this R6 even though I have just completed this build for the window and the better design and filters. Disappointed in the lack of USB Type C inclusion.
when the R6 will be available for sale?
at least in Australia 31-01-2018
Can the 5.25 Bay still be used if you move the drive bay cage-panel back as shown here ua-cam.com/video/R63WqvhK4hA/v-deo.html I was hoping to use the 5.25 bay without the HD cage. Thanks and Great review!
I just bought this case in the blackout version. I looked at a LOT of reviews before I made the choice. Yours was definitely the most detailed. Greatly appreciated!
I will buy the case versus asking for sample, so we don't have to appease the manufacturer with overly positive feedback to ensure future FREE samples. Thanks for watching! Have a Great day! - Bill at www.mnpctech.com
Hi, Did You do something to the free space that is around the filter on top? I mean what about dust getting in to the case? People mod this thing or leave it that way?
Can you remove top mounting panel if you dont use it and just leave mesh filter?
I'm glad they keep the 5.25 bay. I use it for my Blue-ray.
Awesome, Thanks for watching and commenting! Bill at www.mnpctech.com
This is the case I'll be using for my new PC in the next month or so. I'll be going with the solid side case because I can't see the sides of my PC where it's located and I'd rather have the extra sound deadening. I very much appreciate that it includes a decent cooling solution with quality fans. Between that and the features to make it as easy as possible to do a good build, it's really not that hard to justify the cost. I especially appreciate the lack of RGB lighting. Count me as somebody who wants their PC to call as little attention to itself as possible. Having access to an optical drive is still something I want, but having it out of sight when not loading or unloading a disk is a really nice design.
that's great to hear, and thank you for watching! btw I enjoy making stuff for your PC’s in my workshop. visit my store, mnpctech.com and use my DISCOUNT code, MNFAN at check out.
One of the best reviews that i ever watched! I love this case, it has everything that I need.
5 and a quarter inch bay is still somewhat important for me so i am glad it is there
Thats awesome! Thank you for watching! I make other cool stuff for your PC, visit my store, mnpctech.com and use my DISCOUNT code, MNFAN at check out for 10% off your order
It was basically 50% of my purchase decision in getting this case. And this is a 2020 build. So they aren't dead yet.
The only thing I dislike is that there is only a single 5.25 inch bay. A customer of mine ordered a system with optical drive + cardreader. I've solved it by using a Icy Dock MB343SPO, fitted with a 3.5 inch cardreader and a slim line slot load optical, but it drove up the cost of the build (slot load slimline drives are getting rare and are a lot more expensive than regular slimline drives nowadays, but the slimlines that have a tray don't have the feel of quality I strive for in my builds).
This is probably the best current case for custom watercooling. Pre-drilled mounting point for fill port is a stroke of genius. Am so looking forward to seeing what a skilled modder such as Bill can do with this case
That task is up to Mosquito now, I give him the case for helping me. He does excellent mods too, so it's in good hands. Thanks for watching and sharing your comment. I've posted photos and PDFs of the define R6 here for anyone interested, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Im glad they didnt take out the 3.5 drive bay. It doesnt hurt to have it.
yeah im going for a bluray player to have my PC being a multimediastation and completely get rid of my TV, which i mostly dont use anymore anyway, except when i want to watch my Blurays. So having a bay available is a good thing in my case (pun intended). Sadly with this one this will not work.
@@argentum746 same here, I'm going for a multiple display setup so I can still use my PS4 and PS3 too. Cause without a TV, I can put my desk where my TV currently is and totally open up my basement
I'm using mine. 2020 build, 5.25 bay, optical drive confirmed.
Thank you for the INCREDIBLY in-depth review! Definitely going to be buying this case I think
I'm totally getting this case. Late holiday gift to myself!
1 thing I wish reviewers would do more is mount some radiators with fittings just to get an idea of how the case fills up with those components. I know the manual shows what radiators can fit where but it is hard to visualize some of the combinations form the spec sheets. I would love to do a dual 360 but it seems like the end tanks may get in the way and cause clearance issues depending on fitting placement. But this was a very good in-depth review and being a month after launch I dont have much hope for it getting cleared up.
It would be great if we had the time to replicate every liquid cooling layout, or at least the most popular setups, but we're both very busy with other commitments. I own and operate www.mnpctech.com full time. Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback!
Bill Owen I totally get the crunch for time. Especially at the end if the year just some reviewers used to show it and now with all the new hardware it isn't getting that as well. Thanks for what you did do.
You can order a PSU shroud cover for the hole in the front from Fractal for 7 dollars, I got one and it really cleans up the overall look with 2x 140mm fans.
That's an awesome case! May need to pick one up for a custom loop in the future. Great review as always guys
Thank you John! btw Merry Christmas and Happy New year, Hope 2018 is great year for you and your family.
Bill Owen Merry Christmas to you as well! Also wish you and your family a great 2018.
I like how both of us praised fractal on Facebook and boom they release this amazing case.
I like the idea of 1- 5.25 bay just in case, the way the tempered glass panel is attached and so many other things. What needs to be changed IMO is they should've kept the fan speed controller switch on the front and already included the front panel type c instead of using the R5 front panel connections. On top of the case I would've liked to have seen just the solid moduvent cover but a magnetic full length dust cover that came with the gold and white fractal design R5 anniversary or whatever edition that one was. And of course it goes without saying about that shroud thumbscrewed instead of rivets as well as including that other panel for the shroud.
Really great review! I ordered the blackout one and its arriving today. For some reason the Type C option is cheaper than the regular non Type C option here in Korea. So bonus for me. :)
Holy shit this is perfect as far as I can see. I’ve watched everyone’s take on it by now, and I’m sold. Radiator support is nice, fillport hole is awesome, and all the little features are great. The single out of the way 5.25” is perfect for an Aquaero. I’ll have my current custom Ryzen build in my Define S, and my inevitable 8-Core i7 in this bad boy at some point. Thanks for the quality, in-depth review!
Thanks for watching and commenting, I've posted the PDF product sheets and photos of vertical GPU installed here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
You can still put in two 3.5" drives on the back of the plate if you move back/remove the drive sledges.
Also i think there are twelve slots for harddrive sledges, not eleven. You can fit eleven 3.5", but between the two bottom ones you can slide in another one for a 2.5" making it twelve in total.
Great discussion of this case (potentially my next one). Thumbs up.
(the constant showing of hands reminds me of the Mr. Bill skit from Sat Night Live, LOL)
"Ohh Nooo, Mr Bill!! haha!.....it's a great case, we are doing full custom case mod build series with the S2, first video should be published in couple of weeks, Thanks for watching, mnpctech.com/
Great review. I ended up buying this thing as consequence.
Excelent, Best review so far. Slow, explained, showed. Keep up!!
Thank you Adrian, we try to cater our reviews to genuine enthusiasts like yourself! fyi: I've posted product PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Looks like the side panel has the lip that maybe also works well as almost a door hinge....at least enough to move it open and pull it off. I like that it doesn't have that obnoxious push all the little notches in and slide it over thing and hope one doesn't pop out while sliding. I know at least with HP's and the like they can be quite the pain to put back on.
I am a simple man,
I see finger print magnets.
I click like.
I have one of these cases with the USB type C upgrade on the front panel. Very nice case. I have installed an Asus ROG Maximus XI E-ATX motherboard and an Asus ROG RTX 3050 3 fan GPU. Everything fits nicely except the E-ATX mobo does cover the front leading cable pass throughs.
Thanks Bill. Do you know when the R7 is due, to fix the couple of bugs in the R6. I can imagine R7 will be perfect if they listen re the roof and airflow and PSU shroud not removable. P.S: Totally out of place the laughing re the optical drive. Coiiuld not imagine having a computer without the ability to easily load an installation CD, play a DVD or create a DVD for family. Crazy they are disappearing - ridiculous.
My guess is early 2020, their history shows cycle of new model every 2 years. I understand your frustration in terms of archiving, but the demand for optical drives has diminished in the DIY market. Thanks for watching, Bill at mnpctech.com/
@@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods Thanks for your response Bill. 2020 . . . well, I may have to bight the bullet and get the R6. Such a bloody shame they felt the need to make that PSU shroud non-removable as I have a lovely Seasonic Titanium to show off - as would many others I'd imagine. Why hide such a great bit of kit? Just beggars belief! I hope they are reconsidering this. If they can't make it non-removable for some reason then a 'cut-out' enough to show off the PSU would be great. The rest of the case is fantastic.
This is the best-hands-down case of 2017. Too much rgb madness.
agreed, however I do believe RGB can be great, when used in Moderation.. haha, Happy New year Victor! fyi: I've posted product PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
"You really don't get any airflow when you have the top metal cover on". But is it manageable as an exhaust option with 1/2/3 fans if keeping the metal cover on for an airflow-silence balance? I can't notice how much of a gap there is between the metal cover and the chassis.
I ordered mine !
Same model.
Vertical GPU mount and CPU watercooling !
And it's soooo silent ! I was surprised by the silence.
Before that, my config was in an old HAF X case !
Another world.
I found the HAF X cooler than this one. But it's a good case.
Many options possible for your hardware, very beautiful and so silent !
Thank you for watching .... Bill at www.mnpctech.com
How's temperature on GPU?
It seems like Fractal uses a "base" chassis for most of their designs and we may/probably see features from this chassis show up in a new Arc Midi or something else more enthusiast oriented, like an extended PSU shroud.
Yes. The define R6 is newly designed, and slightly wider chassis, and very likely to see this new layout re-appear in other cases in their new lineup, I've posted additional photos and diagram for radiator options here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
I don't get why they went for a top 5.25' drive bay. It prevents installation of a 360 radiator in both the front and the back. Do you think its feasable to turn the front 180deg so that the bay is on the bottom? Most of the front looks rather symmetrical. I believe the main issue would be the cutout in the plastic door part for the IO port block.
Great camera work. Helps with considering moding option being so close to all the details. My r6 will be here in 2 days!
Congrats! where did you order yours from? If youre on Twitter, please TWEET your finished R6 build @Mnpctech
I got it from SCAN as soon as it was in stock as far as i can tell. Ive been moding the hell out of my 750D but this thing has design features i was basically driving towards, like the case door i replaced with a clear acyllic sheet with magnetic strips for a super clean look and ease of taking it off, but the R6 just craps on it, i just had to buy it. Its perfect. Still waiting on the Primochill Vue fluid to hit the shores of the UK too to really set the build off. Anyway im getting over excited again, I'll TWEET it if it all works out lol
Watch out, I've been warned by my fellow online retailers to stay away from PRIMOCHILL VUE. It's clogging and separating in customer loops. You'll find photo evidence online posted by people in community forums as well.
Interesting, Jayztwocents implied it cleaned his system lol.
What primochill didnt tell consumers up front is that VUE is for SHOW use only, not to be used 24/7. Read their Customer Support response to customer here, www.overclock.net/t/1642095/primochill-vue-coolant-users-club/570#post_26545366
Not sure about this case the R5 has 3 modu vents so you don't have to have the whole top open if you want to put 1 fan in the top, the drive caddies are removable and movable in the R5, although the R6 does have some neat solutions. I cant work out how you control the 3 pin fan hub. PWM 4 pin hub goes to the Mobo cpu fan pins and controls all the 4 pin fans. I looked at the instructions online! but where is the speed switch for the 3 pin fans its not on the front like the R5. The solid side version don't have the side fan vent like the R5 either. You cant put a 140mm fan in the rear like the R5 either On the plus side it looks great, I like the PSu shrouds HD covers and the tempered glass. I'm going to buy either the R5 or the R6 I am just not sure which.
I bought this case because it has a 5 1/4 Optical drive bay !
I have a question. I guess you didn't mention anything about 3.5 hard drives. especialy 7,2k ones. What about noise/vibration comming from hard drives mounted in these metal bays? They don't look good to me (I don't see any rubber). Did you check it? I bought Antec P101 Silent and ... it isn't silent, this tower is AWFUL because vibration and noise comming from hard drives! That's why I'm looking for other tower...
All I want is a simple Define S with tempered glass, the top of the R6 to help improve air flow and one of the Front Mods from MSPC Tech and be near MY ideal case.
TG to display custom water loop
Ample room to plan a clean looking loop
Good airflow to help keep temps down
Decent storage in the back for some SSDs and HDDs
My gut says Fractal may offer an "S "version of the R6, like youre describing later this year Brian. I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Bill, is the top fan/rad bracket able to be flipped so that the fill port is closer to the back? Even if it can't, Fractal Design has done a superb job with the R6. Definitely ordering once made available!
It can't due to the "pop-up" push button release for the top panel, great question tho! I've published some photos of the R6 here, along with diagram showing radiator options, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
So anyone know if there is an option out there, aftermarket or not, to purchase a shroud to cover the open area in the front of the case when the drive cage is recessed?
We'll have one available this June, - Bill at www.mnpctech.com
Need that tempered glass attachment system on the Define C and Meshify C series asap!
would be really cool!
Seems to have covered everything - in lengthy detail... great review.
thanks for post Marc, and thanks for watching, mnpctech.com/
For the psu shroud area, it seems like its the same as the ones in the meshify/define C cases so maybe the part that fits into the front of the shroud on them might fit this one as well? That's what I'm assuming since it seems to have the same latching points, but I also assume they didn't include it for a reason, probably compatibility but idk still seems weird to leave uncovered.
the R6 is wider chassis, so shroud cover from those cases may not fit, but worth a try....
R6, 543 x 233 x 465 mm
C, 399 x 210 x 440mm
need an itx version of this!!
Beautiful review. I was wondering, do you by any chance have experience with having 3 gpus in there and how do they behave in terms of thermals. since one has to be vertical?
Just to confrirm, you can do EKWB 140MM CE in the back, CE 280MM in the front and 360mm PE in the top. I have it running right now, works great and it fits! Will also do another 120mm PE in the bottom, cheers!
Isn't that the nice thing about the Nexus Smart Hub? It takes non-PWM fans and makes them PWM with the PWM cable that connects to a PWM fan header on the MoBo.
Just a little FYI for those thinking of building a white-themed PC in the Refine 6 White TG; for some odd reason Fractal design decided to make the front panel black in stead of white, more information here www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r6-white-tg
IMO I think the case looks weird with the black front panel, and I can't think of a real reason why they would have made this design choice.
Just my .060 cents CAD
great work! finally a review that really covers all of it in depth!
I have just one question. i'm planning a custom loop for it but i can't undertand if what i have in mind could fit. I was thinking about a front 360 rad and an aquaero on the 5.25 bay using the open configuration. From what i've understood it's not possible with the standard options, but do you think it is possible to make it work with some minor mods?
Thank you for your kind words and watching David. You could go with 280mm radiator in front and still use the 5.25 bay. If you want 360mm in front, the radiator will block the 5.25. Depending on Radiator thickness and PSU length, you may have enough space to mount the aquaero in the PSU shroud, between PSU and the radiator, I've posted diagram of radiator sizes allowed along with the product PDFs here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Bill Owen ok, thank you for the reply. I will definitely look into the aquaero on the shroud!
Just to confirm... With the open configuration, the 5.25" external bay mounting bracket can be re-installed so we can mount an optical drive? (And a 280mm radiator will work beneath it...?
I was hoping to learn the same.
A. Nonymous yes, I saw someone in a review doing it, if I can find it again I will post it.
Man, because I'm into silent rigs and also don't care about internal aesthetics I always disregard windowed cases, but fuck me that thing is gorgeous in gun metal gray with a window. I might have to sacrifice some silence... damn.
Ordered mine!
Thanks for showing 6:15 i was going insane how i can remove it but it just needs force
The 5" mount is "fun....I guess"....? I can't EVER run a half decent PC without access to a cd-rom drive. Not everyone has every single thing they've ever done on a PC backed up on a hard disk (and that's a pretty stupid idea to anyway), plus the ability to chuck a music CD on while you're doing stuff on PC, plus some of my older games always want to read off the cd/dvd disc itself before they will even start. Steam is not the be-all and end-all of games - and neither is any other digital copy. Tons of games I will always want to actually OWN (as opposed to rent from Valve (read your SSA if you think you own your Steam games). Plus borrowed media on a disc, plus many other reasons - don't be so quick to laugh off the inclusion of what is still an essential part of any *practical* PC build.
The cable management area needs to be wider they keep making them thinner and thinner and you cant cable when you put alot of drives , etc in your computer, come one manufacturers will 2 inches wider kill you ?
Very valid points, Thank you for your feedback! . I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Very nice,,, however, I also wish that they included that shroud cover at front.
yes, cost saving decision, to keep retail price down. I've published more details and photos of the R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Great overview! It'd be nice if it had a USB C Port included and not as a add-on, but not bad for the price.
Dang my interwebs has blown up with Fractals just released case.
For some reason, I am just not feeling it; And type C port is optional?
Seems like a well thought out case though, Sure it will make someone very happy.
At 13:00 you delve into that PCIe ribbon cable.
Will or has someone developed a regular cable like the 24 pin that could be routed?
Bill has some great new GPU mounts that would greatly benefit from a routable cable.
haha, very true.... Fractal knows how to blanket the interwebs with a new release.
thanks for the video,case of my dreams
and Thank you for watching! I've published more details and photos of the R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
I think this is a near perfect design, certainly its a huge leap of improvement of the R4 and R5 though I feel it should have come with the USB Type C front panel connection as standard. Having said that, as I had the R4 and R5 I feel a bit bored with its design even though I do love the nice glass side. I feel I am craving a design such as the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass even though I hate that it only comes with 2 USB 3 front headers and no USB Type C and the rear psu filter pulls out the rear of the case, otherwise I love the design. I am so conflicted :'(
I own the EVOLV, it's a great looking design, but overall airflow ventilation is very poor. Thank you for watching, we try to cater our reviews to genuine enthusiasts like yourself! fyi: I've posted product PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Bill that was a great review! How is the airflow in that case with the solid front panel? I currently have a NZXT H440 with a rad in front and rad on top and airflow sucks big time. I’m trying to decide if I want to do your airflow mod to my case or upgrade to the R6. Would it be significantly better than what I have?
The R6 would be "slightly" better, it has bottom opening, and vents on BOTH sides, versus the NZXT H440 bezel has bottom opening too, but only has vents on right side. ........Record your temps with and without the front bezel on, Do you see significant difference in temps and performance without the bezel on? If so, you may consider performing the bezel mod for more airflow.... I can't say the R6 will yield better or worse results for your individual configuration. Everyone's system and environment is different.
Bill Owen I have done that. I see a 5 to 6 degree C difference in temps with front cover on vs front cover off
What water cooling will fit to the top after installing the 5.25 drive? 280mm/360mm can you fit?
if my choice it be gun metal grey
Do you how long the psu can be, if 2 fans are installed on the bottom?
Id like to see a cheaper version with maybe no fans/controller , no sound proofing, mesh style front with like 2 of each drive trays. also with the optional type c i/o they want 30 bucks for separate. Some where in the 100-115 range with the temp glass panel still. And maybe do like corsair and CM does and sell extra drive trays or fan controller . I personally like the lay out more than the meshify c, but for the price it's a lot of stuff i'm not going to end up not using , doesn't seem worth it. Where in the 50-100$ range you can find so many good cases.
At 3:44 you can see that the IO panel sticks out and doesn't align with the case (since its removable as you can order one with USB-C port). Does this persist as a defect or were you able to align it properly ?
Would like to have seen an option for a Meshify style front panel door (airflow).
But then that's what Modders are for :) lol
so true, Thank you for watching and supporting the channel, if we don't talk before 25th, Merry Christmas and Happy New year, Hope 2018 is great year for you and your family.
Meshify is just a second model line. They will probably release more meshify models too.
I think you can completely remove the front door in order to have better airflow...
the purpose of the define line is to be as quiet as possible
Randy sure. But taking off the front panel would be the obvious v2 design. All of the sudden, now its "designed" for air.
Worth noting GN measured ~ -10c drop by doing that.
If I want to use NZXT x62 on its ceiling, can I still fit in my BluRay drive at the 5.25" bay?
I like this question.. as I am getting an x52 or x62 and definitely want this case
Thanks for a very good review. Yes, great case, about as close to perfect we may get - possibly the best in it's class currently. I just hope the next version (R7) has a REMOVABLE PSU shroud. It is REALLY ticking me off that it is not removable. If I'm paying $300+ here in Australia for a Seasonic Titanium Or AXi Corsair PSU WHY oh WHY would Fractal force me to cover it up with that damn shroud when the gorgeous glass window affords such a great view of a magnificent high end PSU. It is a modular PSU so making the cables look neat is easy! No need for a shroud - OR, make it removable! Couldn't have been rocket science difficult to make it removable, surely Fractal?!! Oh, and they need to make the top twin piece roof easier to separate. Does anyone, including the reviewer, know when the R7 is due please? If these two things are fixed I will be insisting they take my money !
Hi Brian, we've worked with Fractal as consultants since 2010. They do listen, but we havent heard of any news on an R7. I'm guessing they won't release a new design for their R-series for at least another year or two. btw I'm editing more PC-related videos, Hope to See you soon! Bill - mnpctech.com/
@@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods Thanks Bill. That would be such a shame to wait 2 years for the R7 because if they made the changes now they could have the absolute perfect case NOW. Silly to have such a great case in the R6 with such silly little EASILY fixable 'bugs'. I have to buy 'something' for my first 'real' build early next year after Z399 motherboards are released and it will probably be this or a Darkbase but I'd really love this R6 with the issues fixed. Cheers and thanks for your response.
When you remove the drive trays and move the panel back for the “open “ config can you still use the top spot for an optical drive and mount a 360 radiator on the front?
drive trays? ..... no, 5.25 optical drive won't fit.
Bill Owen
At 22:45 you showed the conversion where the drive trays are removed. After you move the wall/partition. There is a slot above the front fans that would fit a dvd drive. What I was asking if after setting it up in the more open mode you can still use the dvd drive slot above the front fans
Realy a good review.
Awesome review!
Thank you for watching Liam! Are you a fan of Fractal's cases? I've also posted some photos and PDF on the R6 here, if youre interested, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Oh thank you for the photos! Actually although i have enjoy fractal cases in the past they havent been a first pick but they are really winning me over with the r6 im considering it for a upcoming build.
Hey I really like that “lazy Susan” you’re using in this video. Is that available for purchase?? Thanks!!
Contact us to have one made here, mnpctech.com/contact-us.html
Bill Owen Thanks Bill! Will do
Is it possible to move the motherboard from left to right ?? and the same with the tempered glass panel can be moved from left to right?
If I wanted to leave the HDD enclosure and trays in the front, how thick of a280 mm radiator would fit in the front?
Is the case fairly scratch resistant?
I just bought this case and It actually is cool.
I have one question, anyway: why would I connect fans to the PWM Board provided an not directly to the motherboard?
Their fan controller isn't mandatory. It will allow you to control three fans with or without PWM connections via Motherboard. You can plug into motherboard instead, if you prefer.
If I don’t have a DVD drive how can I play old games?
There is one 5.25 bay, so you can install CD/ROM drive for your old games ;-) I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Can you use any other pcie risers other than the one they're going to sell? I can't find any other info on that. I plan on mounting my gpu vertically but their riser is not released yet and I'm thinking of just choosing another one
Yes, we use these 16x PCI-Riser cables, mnpctech.com/case-mods-gaming-pc-liquid-modding-custom-computer-mnpctech-overclock-cooling-fan-grills/cable-pci-e-riser.html
This case or be quit 801?
So, we are so old that we remember danger den :D
haha, GOOD PEOPLE, I miss their site dearly. check out our hangout with Dennis sometime, we delve into DD's history, he's a genuine and awesome guy, ua-cam.com/video/amy84B_ik88/v-deo.html
Would i be able to mount a larger gpu vertically? I have an msi rtx 2080 super gaming x trio. It appears I will most certainly need to remove hard drive mounting plate but im more worried about gpu thickness as i dont want it to hit the front glass.
space wont be issue, but mounting that beastly GPU alongside tempered glass is going to effect airflow performance in this case.
There are only 2 things I don't like about the case that I have seen on videos. 1. There isn't a cover that can be placed to complete the psu shroud.
2. USB type C isn't supported natively.
very valid points, I suggested to Fractal to consider an exchange program for anyone who wishes to update their I/O panel to the C-Type version, otherwise it;'s waste to throw away your old I/O panel, after spending $29.95. Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback. I've posted photos and PDFs of the define R6 here for anyone interested, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Yes, I was really disappointed to see no USB Type C till I found out they will have it on offer though obviously at extra cost, should have been in it in the first place.
Don't get why they put a dustfilter on the top exhaust vent. You should keep dust from getting in, not out, imo..
it's also to prevent particles from getting into your system, Thanks for watching and commenting, everyone at www.mnpctech.com appreciates it
Because it can also be used as an intake...
do U think I can mount my corsair h110i gtx on the top side? (280mm rad+140mm fans)
Yes, it fits 280mm in the top, as stated in the video.
thanks for the kindly reply. what do u think about cooler master quality vs fractal design?
Which Cooler Master model are you referring to? All case manufacturers offer cases at different price levels.
the mastercase series, like the new mc500m
Fractal design is far superior design and quality, and less plastic.
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I see an ODD opening, but is there no ODD cage?
is the front area (after relocating the panel) enough space for a 280mm rad in push pull configuration?
Yes! I've posted a radiator options diagram here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
21:20 Did you mean 360 or 240? Not 360 480?
hey probably will sell it to us later down the road for the mid plate
Is the case able to fit dual 30mm 360 radiators at the top and front?
yes, here is radiator options, mnpctech.com/images/companies/3/define-r6-radiator-size-front-top-bottom-fractal-design-mnpctech.jpg I've published more details and photos of the R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Could you do a review for the Evolv Shift and evolv shift X
Please help us by telling Phanteks you would like us to review their products. I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
when the R6 will be available for sale?
Are you in US? Releases 1/15/18, You can pre-order the Define R6 for $149.99 on Newegg here, tinyurl.com/y9vfw9jk
Con Sticker Rubber Feet ...... Pro : but i like Bills Anker Bolt Down Rubber Feet Makes Cleaning the Case lot more Ezy
best review ever
Thank you for watching! Have you seen our S2 overview?, that one is 45 mins!!! Bill at www.mnpctech.com
@@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods will look into it..this one gonna be my next case. thanks
Captive thumb screws would have been nice. On the side panels.
good eye! we noticed the lack of them as well. Thanks for watching and posting your comment.
thatrandomperson I personally feel that leaving them out on the side panel was good because I believe it looks so much cleaner without the thumb screws.
thatrandomperson I just realized that the captive thumb screws wouldn't do anything considering the way most people have their case oriented. I would be able to see them with the way I have my cases.
When does thisbcase come out?
Hi Scott, the Fractal Desgin Define R6 was supposed to have been listed on Newegg when this overview was published on UA-cam. Bookmark and Keep checking this Newegg link, cause once they get stocked, they will go fast here, www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%2050014581&IsNodeId=1&Manufactory=14581&name=Computer%20Cases&SpeTabStoreType=0&isdeptsrh=1
I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Could you review the Dan-a4 sfx v2 case?.
we would love to, can you please tell DAN about my channel, thank you
Will it fit a 420 rad?
Yes, in top, here is radiator options, mnpctech.com/images/companies/3/define-r6-radiator-size-front-top-bottom-fractal-design-mnpctech.jpg I've published more details and photos of the R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
But can I do a 420 in the top, a 360 in the front, and a 280 on the bottom all at the same time?
Yes you can, but you can only mount 2 3.5 inch hard drives if you move that plate to the back
You can also have tempered glass on the other side... just need to buy one separately.
Yes, and show off your cable management skills! I've posted PDFs and more photos of the Define R6 here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
will a res fit ? tube res
You can relocate the vertical name plate to be positioned alongside the MB for mounting reservoir.
this or NZXT S340 Elite?
DIY Watercooling your build?, then I'd go Define R6 for more Radiator options, otherwise S340, Bill at www.mnpctech.com
Still cant buy the Gunmetal R6 TG or the Connect D1 in US!!! ARGH...
Newegg has it now
Can I fit three 140mm fans in the front? Thanks.
they've posted diagrams and specs here, mnpctech.com/fractal-design-define-r6-case-riser-cable-type-c-kit-review.html
Thanks for the reply. However, I can't find my answer on that page. In the R6 manual, page 27, for open layout, it suggests you can put two 140mm fans in the front. However, it appears that there's room for one more. I've emailed Fractal and hope to get an answer soon.
Another problem (at least for me) is that the link you provided states the case has 3 pin fan connectors. Does that mean I can only buy fans with 3 pin connectors? Obviously, I'm not very knowledgeable. Thanks.
According to the manual, the case only fits two 140mm fans in the front.
You can connect THREE 4 pin PWM cooling fans of your choice to the fan controller hub in the R6 case. If you have more than THREE 4 pin PWM fans, check your motherboard for 4 pin PWM header power connections. The R6 fan controller hub also allows SIX three pin fan connections. (As noted in the video)
Overview of 4 pin PWM fans
www.ekwb.com/blog/what-is-pwm-and-how-does-it-work/
Hey, I understand the pins now. I'm convinced to get 4 pin PWM fans. Thanks a lot. My motherboard has two 4 pin connectors. If I don't have enough 4 pin connectors, and I'd like to control the speeds, I may have to another get a hub (despite the R6 one). I appreciate your time.
surething, and Thanks again for watching my video! Bill at www.mnpctech.com
RIP Danger Den ;(