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Thank you for speaking out. It's people like you who makes a positive impact in our industry. Truckers where making $0.45 per mile in 2005, which supposed to be $0.95 per mile today. Most truckers are making $0.65 or less which is just ridiculous
You are 100% correct brother about questioning Authority and nonsense policies. Just as everybody in the country should be questioning the last 3 years of all this nonsense
Steven's Transport did the same thing to me. I wised up quickly and left them. I will never do otr for anybody cause of the low pay. The don't respect the veteran drivers with experience
In 2006 they tried to get you to lease a truck. The only way you could possibly make any money was to lease and drive as a team non stop. I rode with a trainer who’d leased. He gave me all the in and outs but I know they made no sense and weren’t profitable. Luckily I decided against it and he drove until his lease was up and he left. I’m still fb friends with him till this day. He said it was the smartest thing he did was to get out from under his lease. He said he would go broke unless he had a trainee or 2 onboard at all times.
After losing my factory job I had for 35 years I got my CDL through the state for being a displaced worker. I started at Roehl with the intent of doing a year or two of OTR and finding a local driving job. After six months my wife had her fill of my being gone and so did I and I quit. I was 55 years old and no job. I applied for a city bus operator job for the city of Toledo OH and was hired immediately, the CDL was a huge help even though I had to retest for the passenger endorsement. Was paid for every minute behind the wheel and for sitting in the bullpen on report, I was not the only former truck driver there and retired after 10 years.
Got my cdl with England in 2011. What a horrible company. Thankfully I only was with them 9 months because I was in the military. I'm still receiving money from a class action lawsuit with them. You have to not be afraid of finding a new job, it's your best option.
I find it funny you failed to mention the ONE thing that would make trucking fair and quickly change.. To be paid BY THE HOUR!! It was exempted almost 100 years ago from the Fair Labor standards act.. With technology today.. There is not 1 reason truckers cannot be paid by the hour with overtime!!
Very well said my friend. I don't know how long you've been driving but you seem to have a lot of insight in the trucking industry. You make a lot of sense and I'm hoping these new drivers watch this. Glad to see I'm not the only one voicing my opinion on the career I love... God bless....
That's 90% of every trucking company😂 prefer to hire tons of new drivers than pay more to the skilled drivers! I've hopped so many trucking jobs in the first year of getting my CDL. Local jobs want to pay $20-$23 an hour for driving 80k lbs and backing into tight spots in the city and the jobs that pay CPM want to pay 40-45 cents disgusting
Kudos to you for sticking with CRE for 2 years brother! There are plenty of smaller operations out there that will see your dedication as a positive. Even if CRE fires you for speaking the truth, that's a truth that these small companies already know. You should have no problems finding a job with a decent company. Best wishes for you and yours man!
My cousins first job was a bank teller, no college, worked up to management as a branch manager for 20 years making pretty good money, bought a house in orange county, nrw lexus' all the time, then bank was bought out, and she was replaced, also asked to train her replacement 20 years her junior and getting paid half, there is no secure job.
Word of advice. If you are driving on the highway and you see an ENGLAND truck, stay as far away from that truck as possible. Between the two people in the truck....there maybe ( and I stress maybe) 1 year of combined experience. They are more dangerous than swift. And that say alot.
Had one hit me backing in to a dock - 6 doors open and he tried to blindside right next to me - took off my mirrors, steps and almost punctured my tank before he pulled forward and ripped his brand spanking new trailer door off. I had to call his safety because he didn't know how - he asked me if I thought he was in trouble, told him to find a new career. 6 weeks total driving experience and was by himself. Sad thing was I was driving LTL and was ahead of schedule on a Friday lol.
@@bonniegardner1154not bullshit... there are many Create drivers making 6 figures. With the per mile pay plus extra stop pay and the safety/productivity bonuses, a Create driver can make over $100,000 a year.
You're speaking facts, brother. I gave trucking 5 years of my life I could not see myself doing anything else but, I'm just done with it all after think about all the bull crap you deal with it's just not worth the mental stress I rather be home and happy than dealing with bullcrap.
I just saw something about this on ET transport where he was explaining that companies want to get rid of their veteran drivers to save money. The companies would rather hire new drivers for the lowest pay while teasing the top dollar pay as if after 5 years they will be topping out.
Run, run as fast as you can from C.R england. That family that runs it is all lawyers. Do you know how many lawsuits they have and had? Terrible company!
I used to work there. I can tell you that company sucks. Now I'm working for a small family-owned company and I'm very happy here and making much more money.
I started out at England in 2016. I got on the trainer track and started training six months in. I know a lot of people freak out about people who start training early, but at least in my case, I stood by it. Training brand new drivers is an amazing learning experience. But in addition to that, I was new enough that I could get into the heads of new drivers. I went on to train again in the future, but I was better at it when I was new. Anyway, I was at England for a year and a half, out for 5-6 weeks at a time, home for a weekend. My next job was a big pay raise, running solo, low stress, five days out. I should have gotten out so much sooner. Now I'm running local, making six figures on 50-55 hours a week. Know your worth, folks. There's good jobs out there. They're even sometimes at the big carriers. Just gotta find em.
Experienced trucker here, my advice is to boycot these multi million/billion dollar companies by not working for cheap. They dont pay you for working your life away, don't work for them.
BRO UNION TRADES (I.e plumbing, roofing, electrician, etc) make 55-60 hr after 4 years you get 40% of that to start no experience!!! You get raises depending on hours you do because apprenticeship is completed within 8k hours. Mon- fri 8 hours a Day. Plenty of OT!!!! Holidays is double time. Something trucking never takes into consideration. You are bulletproof on a skill not many can do. Side jobs! You aren’t limited to DOT BS laws. Become journeyman
Side jobs are still subject to city inspectors which can be just as bad as d.o.t I worked in construction for years and saw a lot of contractors get screwed by city inspectors. Trucking is still a good trade you should get back into it, you told me you were making good money more than 60k I don’t know why you quit.
This is some of the reasons why I went and bought my own truck. I get my loads from two different load boards. Best thing I ever did. God bless truck driver's.
Will said Augustine I started with that company 25 years ago. Worked with them for six months left the company and never look back. There’s too much money to be made running local home every day I haul fuel locally and I make $2000 a week Monday through Friday 10 hours a day
What company if you don’t mind me asking bro? I finally got all my endorsements. My hazmat endorsement should be in the mail today. TSA already cleared it. Now I have doubles triples, tankers and hazmat endorsement. About 20 months experience. 🤔
Jat energy out of Chattanooga Tennessee. They only run local. They have a office in Cartersville, Georgia and a satellite office in Nashville and Birmingham Alabama. But their main office is in Chattanooga Tennessee.
I work for Swift and we’re gone through so many pay changes too. Like you said they rely on the school … difficult times in the trucking industry right now .
Telling facts. I worked for another Mega trucking company, and they violated my Home Time. They left me in PA and had to pay my own way home to Cali. It’s just sad how the trucking industry is now and am in the process myself looking for a local job that pays by the hour
Years ago CR England had a great Name for Trucking. Then years later they had a crappie name for their Way to do things to the people who work for them. I thought it was 2 different companies but it was CR England. Crazy how it was the best then it was the worst. I never drove for CR England. I would have 35 years ago but I haven’t heard a good thing about it since
I worked for them as a trainer and kicked drivers off the truck all the time. I would tell them to meet me at the yard at a specific time to start their phase 1. If they were not there with in 15 mins of that time I failed them and left. I would get to the yard to drop off my current student and take a 10 hour brake so I would be fresh for the new guy and was always under a load when changing out drivers so I couldn’t wait for them. Besides if they can’t be there to start on time they can’t be expected to make their deliveries on time. I had some real scary students; 1 guy pulled a knife on me because I told him he had to drive a full shift not just 4 hours. Another student I caught smoking crack, another guys drive off and left me at a test area when we stopped to hit the head. Never checked to be sure I was back in the sleeper when he got back. He drove past me totally oblivious to what was going on around him as he drove off. Had my cell phone and everything else in the truck. I had all students leave their Phones in the sleeper while driving to avoid distractions. Had to call the state police and send them after the truck to tell the guy to turn around and come back for me. And it only got worse from there. cRE wasn’t scrapping the bottom of rhe barrel they where digging under it to put asses in seats.
DAM you hit the nail on the head !!! i cant even put in my 2 cents you covered everything !Your too good of a driver and have alot of people skills to land any job you want ! You are more educated than alot of college grad i"ve worked with in my 30 plus years in the corprate world ... Good luck in your endeavors.
It's been like that since I've been alive 49years..once you know too much in any industry your not hire-able...They call it over Qualified...Basically don't want you coming in strong minded know just as much ,most of the time even more than a lot of the Bosses, associates...Your supposed to have started your on business at that point..In trucking you can speed that process up by decades...Absolutely anybody can drive a Rig in a week or so of training..Question is who will last...10-10 Truckers can become Dispatch and brokers but 1 out of 10 brokers/Dispatchers can become (Truck Drivers)...The only way is to out preform by staying out 2+ months at a time, once any Trucking company tries to cut my pay I leave...also stay away from Driver/Mill companies..Go with a small fleet company or a nitch like fuel/oil fields etc...Get hired Directly from the place your drop&hook at [Walmart] you'll be treated much better all the way around
Yes sirrrr just lasted 1 month at a smaller trucking company. Finally found a local flatbed job no touch freight that pays well!! Theres still good jobs out there. All u have to do is keep looking while employed at the bad company. Idc about my history of hopping companies. The companies always ask me what happened, i tell them the truth.
You got the right attitude I retired seven years ago after 24 years on the road. Try and find a smaller company with maybe only a couple hundred trucks you might do better good luck.
If you have a banana tree in the back yard, the bananas in your kitchen will lose it’s value. This is the philosophy of mega carriers who has a trucking school system.
Sorry that happened to you, I started with CR England & I stayed with them for 2-1/2 years on a dedicated account which was Abbott Nutrition I had a good run for the most part best outcome I had was training & had a great trainer which I was fortune for that because I know others in my class had it rough with trainers but long story short I drove for CR England, Pro Truck Lines, Trimac & the 3-1/2 years with Walmart private fleet has been the best company I’ve been with & best decision only thing I regret on my end is I should’ve came sooner but hey late is better then never lol. You almost got the experience to apply for Walmart keep your head up wether you go with a different company or not when you get the 30months apply for Walmart & see how it is for you I mean you already know how the work is but this time you’ll get all the perks that Walmart offers!
A recruiter called me just yesterday! 😂 Those 15 dollars are going to be the new norm for new drivers! Jb-hunt is doing the same thing! Letting drivers go or firing them too! Its less miles for more cpm or more miles les cpm. New drivers with less pay to make it seem normal to the next generation. So basically, trucking is going to be slave pay! 😅
Just know that many states are now trying to pass legislation that will allow undocumented immigrants to obtain a CDL. They're already allowed to get a regular driver license in more than 20 states. Our borders are wide open and these people are willing to work for extremely low wages. Once that happens, driving a truck will become a minimum wage job.
You hit the nail on the head. They do not want smart, confident drivers who know they're worth. That's why they take these guys off the street and train them.
This a great video, you couldn’t have explained what’s going on in the trucking industry any better. I hope you have much success in your future endeavors. 👍🏿
Employers get a tax credit worth thousands of dollars for hiring people out of public assistance. These people never last long, but employers still get to keep the credit, and they depend upon this churning attrition to keep generating more tax credits. Lucrative!
I agree especially the stuff about training. I just had an almost identical thing happen with Ashley PNW. They cut our local pay from 75.00 flat rate for local & 125.00 for California to $15.00/hr! The same for detention after the first 2 hrs. I left them fri the 20th because of that and too many other things to name. Thank you for putting this video out there. Drivers do need to organize for sure, as a driver who drove truck back in the day when most our work was done for free I don’t want and can’t afford to go backwards!
I met a new CR England driver on a dollar general account while I was with Werner. I by no means loved Werner but they guaranteed me 1400 a week minimum at the time as long as I was on that account. The CR England guy was capped at 700 a week on that account. If they dropped a rolltainer they would be charged 50 per rolltainer. They couldn’t keep CR England drivers ok that account and it showed why. For the labor and bs and that pay … it’s sad. Companies treat new and experienced drivers like shit. We’re all expendable. There’s no “family” or rewards for “loyalty” at the end of the day were a necessary cog in a poorly maintained machine and if they think we can be replaced to up productivity or increase profit we we will be.
This is the case with so many companies. They forget all too quickly, when things go south, who got them where they are!... and it ain't the noob, straight out of school! For this reason alone, many companies are eliminating their overhead, getting rid of experienced drivers, bringing in shit talent. Then the "new, inexperienced" drivers cost them more money in damages, late fees, no shows, complaints ( both customers and drivers), OS&D category, wear and tear on their equipment, CSA scores go through the roof. Then after the "new" school guys have run their course, these companies look for "new, old school" talent, bump the pay up, but keep all the stupid rules and regulations and ball busting morons in charge, who require you to work overtime for shit pay, drive the once new, now shitty equipment, work holidays and weekends, and sacrifice your home time and good benefits to serve them. These companies can't understand, that it was their 1st step in cutting good drivers, that ruined them for life and put them in this endless cycle.
The mega carriers are putting the little guys out of business, by offering huge discounts on shipping rates. Making it hard for the small companies to survive. They are cutting your pay so they can kill off the competition. Back when I started in 2006. We were paid $.28 per mile and it was air miles so you would often have to drive hundreds of miles a week for free.
Congratulations you just figured out there business model! Leave them as quickly as you can. You’ll be amazed how much more there is out here. I was with them for 8 years as a trainer. I did buy and pay off a truck with them. Took that truck to Landstar and never looked back.
I started at CR england in 2014 my contract was 9 months I left in 4 months and only had to pay about half what they tell you in the class because they pro rated it and the do it in monthly payments you dont pay it all upfront. I still drive truck today but starting to think about finding another career because they have too many idiots out here and the automatic just means no one is learning how to drive the truck.
England never gave a dam about their drivers. They are a rotating door out to work there newbies for 5-6 months and then terminate them n charge them for 3 weeks of driving school that they charge 6k for. Then England charges you 18% interest on a 5k loan! So it's a win win for England.😢 thats why all the professional drivers out there Hate England n there newbie drivers!
That has to be illegal they can’t just terminate a driver for no reason and then still charge for the schooling just a FYI they are paying a big fee for charging y’all for the school each check you get when it was suppose to be free after a year of completion, I’m glad I don’t work for them and glad I got pulled over the day of my test we them causing me to be let go of the schooling with no strings attached!
Thank you Agustin for what you have done at CR England sometimes we don’t get the appreciation that we do for other people (companies) or other people I’m gonna be coming on board in a couple of months. Thank you for all the info.
Let me give you insight on dedicated accounts. CR England has a contract with Walmart, which means they provide trucks and drivers specifically for them. Since you guys experienced a pay cut, I'm guessing the contract ended and was renegotiated. If that's the case, considering the current freight market, it was probably renegotiated at the current freight market rate, which is lower compared to before. Many mega carriers that have dedicated accounts ending this year or next will likely face the same outcome. Now a lot of companies driver will feel what the owners operators are feeling on current situation.
You are absolutely correct, As you mentioned, basically new drivers can easily replace you guys. Unfortunately, from a business perspective, that would be the best approach since they have new driver coming left and right. Additionally, I have noticed that many local job postings now require a minimum of two years of experience.
I worked at c r england in 1987 and 1988. They had 105 trucks. We were treated like gold. Good drivers good company. The grandsons took over and they seemed to want to grow at any expense The easiest place to cut expenses was driver pay.
Quit. There’s better out there and desperately hiring too. I’m local $32 an hour at clock in. In California as well. Plus $4 or $6 an hour for every hour work towards pension. Plus free medical. We make $90,000-$110,000 minimum a year start. Don’t be afraid brother. Teamsters. Non union is shit. You get brainwashed and taken advantage of
I walked out last week due to this similar issues. No extra paid for staying out waiting for load. Any trucking accepting no experience will absolutely not paid driver what they are worth. I move on and found another trucking with a week. Experience paid!! Don't comply with low cent paid
The CEOs and other C-level employees will never take pay cuts. It'll always fall on the workers. I drove line-haul (relay) for years and it is good to be unionized. We were part of the Teamsters and I never had to pay a dime for health insurance, including expensive hospitalizations. I was making $0.64/mile just 2 years in. As you get older that kind of 100% paid insurance goes a long, long way.
Thank you for speaking out. It's people like you who makes a positive impact in our industry. Truckers where making $0.45 per mile in 2005, which supposed to be $0.95 per mile today. Most truckers are making $0.65 or less which is just ridiculous
You are 100% correct brother about questioning Authority and nonsense policies. Just as everybody in the country should be questioning the last 3 years of all this nonsense
And sentencing Jan 6ers and the orange clown.
More like the last 40 some years. Reaganomics only helps the rich
Steven's Transport did the same thing to me. I wised up quickly and left them. I will never do otr for anybody cause of the low pay. The don't respect the veteran drivers with experience
@@willmann30explain how much better things are now ya jacka$$
Yes. Go to a school company.
Leave school company.
I am running 2800 miles a week at .70 a mile. CREngland got me to this point.
You’re on point.
They make money off the school first and loads second.
Oh, I didn’t mention their truck leasing scam.
Tell us about the truck leasing scam or it can be good
In 2006 they tried to get you to lease a truck.
The only way you could possibly make any money was to lease and drive as a team non stop.
I rode with a trainer who’d leased.
He gave me all the in and outs but I know they made no sense and weren’t profitable.
Luckily I decided against it and he drove until his lease was up and he left.
I’m still fb friends with him till this day.
He said it was the smartest thing he did was to get out from under his lease.
He said he would go broke unless he had a trainee or 2 onboard at all times.
After losing my factory job I had for 35 years I got my CDL through the state for being a displaced worker. I started at Roehl with the intent of doing a year or two of OTR and finding a local driving job. After six months my wife had her fill of my being gone and so did I and I quit. I was 55 years old and no job. I applied for a city bus operator job for the city of Toledo OH and was hired immediately, the CDL was a huge help even though I had to retest for the passenger endorsement. Was paid for every minute behind the wheel and for sitting in the bullpen on report, I was not the only former truck driver there and retired after 10 years.
Every single Mega carrier is responsible for the horrible state of trucking
It’s their plan by design
Got my cdl with England in 2011. What a horrible company. Thankfully I only was with them 9 months because I was in the military. I'm still receiving money from a class action lawsuit with them. You have to not be afraid of finding a new job, it's your best option.
What was the lawsuit for
I worked for them in 2003-2004.
I got mine through them, quit after 6 months, now I am doing local and pay way good more then what I was making at CR
Come to UPS. We have sleeper teams and they get PAID. Plus retirement and health benefits COMPANY PAID
Thank you for your insight! You are a good ambassador for truckers . . . I appreciate your integrity.
I find it funny you failed to mention the ONE thing that would make trucking fair and quickly change..
To be paid BY THE HOUR!! It was exempted almost 100 years ago from the Fair Labor standards act..
With technology today.. There is not 1 reason truckers cannot be paid by the hour with overtime!!
Very well said my friend. I don't know how long you've been driving but you seem to have a lot of insight in the trucking industry. You make a lot of sense and I'm hoping these new drivers watch this. Glad to see I'm not the only one voicing my opinion on the career I love... God bless....
That's 90% of every trucking company😂 prefer to hire tons of new drivers than pay more to the skilled drivers! I've hopped so many trucking jobs in the first year of getting my CDL. Local jobs want to pay $20-$23 an hour for driving 80k lbs and backing into tight spots in the city and the jobs that pay CPM want to pay 40-45 cents disgusting
Kudos to you for sticking with CRE for 2 years brother! There are plenty of smaller operations out there that will see your dedication as a positive. Even if CRE fires you for speaking the truth, that's a truth that these small companies already know. You should have no problems finding a job with a decent company. Best wishes for you and yours man!
Meanwhile he was paid millions on salary thinking about how he can cut your pay.
All Mega Carriers Are The Same, Only Difference Is The Color Of Their Trucks
You right, I unload truck,all i see is young new drivers. Some of the drivers tell me they only train for 2 weeks
I had one tell me they hadn't been driving for more than 2 days.@@wesleyperkins9038
My cousins first job was a bank teller, no college, worked up to management as a branch manager for 20 years making pretty good money, bought a house in orange county, nrw lexus' all the time, then bank was bought out, and she was replaced, also asked to train her replacement 20 years her junior and getting paid half, there is no secure job.
What's the lesson here?
@@kevinreynaga6340maybe don’t be faithful to a company . As soon a something better and something that you feel tu ou will stay for a while go there
@@kevinreynaga6340The golden rule, they crap on you, you crap on them.
You are absolutely right and great person for speaking out.
Word of advice. If you are driving on the highway and you see an ENGLAND truck, stay as far away from that truck as possible. Between the two people in the truck....there maybe ( and I stress maybe) 1 year of combined experience. They are more dangerous than swift. And that say alot.
Had one hit me backing in to a dock - 6 doors open and he tried to blindside right next to me - took off my mirrors, steps and almost punctured my tank before he pulled forward and ripped his brand spanking new trailer door off. I had to call his safety because he didn't know how - he asked me if I thought he was in trouble, told him to find a new career. 6 weeks total driving experience and was by himself. Sad thing was I was driving LTL and was ahead of schedule on a Friday lol.
I was on the DG fleet out there in CA bro I left CRE after three years this past April 2023. When it’s time to go, it’s time to go! God Bless
We're you based on Lebec, CA?
That's where they Got the Advantage , because they Paying for the School they benefit off of it
CR England never had top tier talent 😂. They are a training company. You know nothing, you learn a little and you leave, that’s it!
Fact
fact thats what i did
Facts😂 i did the same thing! This company is a joke!
Werner and swift also
Yup that's what I did as well
If you can do OTR come over to Crete buddy, I'm making 6 figures comfortably.
Bullshit
I heard the guys over at Shaffer made good money
@@SannarClaus i currently make 0.66 a mile, plus profitshare and safety bonuses.
Just don't run for Crete Carrier dedicated... Only OTR.. work for Costco dedicated waited hours for loads for free...
@@bonniegardner1154not bullshit... there are many Create drivers making 6 figures. With the per mile pay plus extra stop pay and the safety/productivity bonuses, a Create driver can make over $100,000 a year.
You're speaking facts, brother. I gave trucking 5 years of my life I could not see myself doing anything else but, I'm just done with it all after think about all the bull crap you deal with it's just not worth the mental stress I rather be home and happy than dealing with bullcrap.
I just saw something about this on ET transport where he was explaining that companies want to get rid of their veteran drivers to save money. The companies would rather hire new drivers for the lowest pay while teasing the top dollar pay as if after 5 years they will be topping out.
Run, run as fast as you can from C.R england. That family that runs it is all lawyers. Do you know how many lawsuits they have and had? Terrible company!
I used to work there. I can tell you that company sucks. Now I'm working for a small family-owned company and I'm very happy here and making much more money.
CR England is in trouble they about to go broke. Boss comes down and you loose pay.
That is why Every New Guy Last About Ninety Days.
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I started out at England in 2016. I got on the trainer track and started training six months in. I know a lot of people freak out about people who start training early, but at least in my case, I stood by it. Training brand new drivers is an amazing learning experience. But in addition to that, I was new enough that I could get into the heads of new drivers. I went on to train again in the future, but I was better at it when I was new. Anyway, I was at England for a year and a half, out for 5-6 weeks at a time, home for a weekend. My next job was a big pay raise, running solo, low stress, five days out. I should have gotten out so much sooner. Now I'm running local, making six figures on 50-55 hours a week. Know your worth, folks. There's good jobs out there. They're even sometimes at the big carriers. Just gotta find em.
Experienced trucker here, my advice is to boycot these multi million/billion dollar companies by not working for cheap. They dont pay you for working your life away, don't work for them.
Listening to this guy for 13min reminds me that truckers are not brain surgeons. Thanks for sharing 😂😂😂
Don't be a d
BRO UNION TRADES (I.e plumbing, roofing, electrician, etc) make 55-60 hr after 4 years you get 40% of that to start no experience!!! You get raises depending on hours you do because apprenticeship is completed within 8k hours. Mon- fri 8 hours a Day. Plenty of OT!!!! Holidays is double time. Something trucking never takes into consideration. You are bulletproof on a skill not many can do. Side jobs! You aren’t limited to DOT BS laws. Become journeyman
Side jobs are still subject to city inspectors which can be just as bad as d.o.t I worked in construction for years and saw a lot of contractors get screwed by city inspectors. Trucking is still a good trade you should get back into it, you told me you were making good money more than 60k I don’t know why you quit.
I'm considering switching to a trade after this year. This industry is horrible.
@@meadows-GFCsame here! This is the least respected job out there and it’s not a life skill to hold onto I mean all you do is hold a steering wheel
Lol I work 50 a hour driving trucks for the city and I barely drive like that , trucking is good to me 😂
This is some of the reasons why I went and bought my own truck. I get my loads from two different load boards. Best thing I ever did. God bless truck driver's.
Will said Augustine I started with that company 25 years ago. Worked with them for six months left the company and never look back. There’s too much money to be made running local home every day I haul fuel locally and I make $2000 a week Monday through Friday 10 hours a day
What company if you don’t mind me asking bro? I finally got all my endorsements. My hazmat endorsement should be in the mail today. TSA already cleared it. Now I have doubles triples, tankers and hazmat endorsement. About 20 months experience. 🤔
Jat energy out of Chattanooga Tennessee. They only run local. They have a office in Cartersville, Georgia and a satellite office in Nashville and Birmingham Alabama. But their main office is in Chattanooga Tennessee.
I work for Swift and we’re gone through so many pay changes too. Like you said they rely on the school … difficult times in the trucking industry right now .
Telling facts. I worked for another Mega trucking company, and they violated my Home Time. They left me in PA and had to pay my own way home to Cali. It’s just sad how the trucking industry is now and am in the process myself looking for a local job that pays by the hour
When an why
Years ago CR England had a great Name for Trucking. Then years later they had a crappie name for their Way to do things to the people who work for them. I thought it was 2 different companies but it was CR England. Crazy how it was the best then it was the worst. I never drove for CR England. I would have 35 years ago but I haven’t heard a good thing about it since
Go to local job like LTL, Fuel hauling, or food service.
Company suggestions?
Even if you're young, in today's America the way they work you like a slave, your health will be gone in no time way before you hit 60.
I worked for them as a trainer and kicked drivers off the truck all the time. I would tell them to meet me at the yard at a specific time to start their phase 1. If they were not there with in 15 mins of that time I failed them and left. I would get to the yard to drop off my current student and take a 10 hour brake so I would be fresh for the new guy and was always under a load when changing out drivers so I couldn’t wait for them. Besides if they can’t be there to start on time they can’t be expected to make their deliveries on time.
I had some real scary students; 1 guy pulled a knife on me because I told him he had to drive a full shift not just 4 hours. Another student I caught smoking crack, another guys drive off and left me at a test area when we stopped to hit the head. Never checked to be sure I was back in the sleeper when he got back. He drove past me totally oblivious to what was going on around him as he drove off. Had my cell phone and everything else in the truck. I had all students leave their
Phones in the sleeper while driving to avoid distractions. Had to call the state police and send them after the truck to tell the guy to turn around and come back for me. And it only got worse from there. cRE wasn’t scrapping the bottom of rhe barrel they where digging under it to put asses in seats.
DAM you hit the nail on the head !!! i cant even put in my 2 cents you covered everything !Your too good of a driver and have alot of people skills to land any job you want ! You are more educated than alot of college grad i"ve worked with in my 30 plus years in the corprate world ... Good luck in your endeavors.
Thanks for the support! Stay safe out there.
I see lots of foreign drivers on the road. They work here and send their money back home to their country
I been trucking for 23 years I agree with you 💯 👍🏼
It's been like that since I've been alive 49years..once you know too much in any industry your not hire-able...They call it over Qualified...Basically don't want you coming in strong minded know just as much ,most of the time even more than a lot of the Bosses, associates...Your supposed to have started your on business at that point..In trucking you can speed that process up by decades...Absolutely anybody can drive a Rig in a week or so of training..Question is who will last...10-10 Truckers can become Dispatch and brokers but 1 out of 10 brokers/Dispatchers can become (Truck Drivers)...The only way is to out preform by staying out 2+ months at a time, once any Trucking company tries to cut my pay I leave...also stay away from Driver/Mill companies..Go with a small fleet company or a nitch like fuel/oil fields etc...Get hired Directly from the place your drop&hook at [Walmart] you'll be treated much better all the way around
Companies that treat their employees like crap, will pay dearly eventually.
Don't be hammering us old timers
72 yo
Current medical classA ,hazmat ,doubles ,tanker
Rich people dont understand how expensive it is being poor.
Yes sirrrr just lasted 1 month at a smaller trucking company. Finally found a local flatbed job no touch freight that pays well!! Theres still good jobs out there. All u have to do is keep looking while employed at the bad company. Idc about my history of hopping companies. The companies always ask me what happened, i tell them the truth.
You got the right attitude I retired seven years ago after 24 years on the road. Try and find a smaller company with maybe only a couple hundred trucks you might do better good luck.
If you have a banana tree in the back yard, the bananas in your kitchen will lose it’s value. This is the philosophy of mega carriers who has a trucking school system.
Sorry that happened to you, I started with CR England & I stayed with them for 2-1/2 years on a dedicated account which was Abbott Nutrition I had a good run for the most part best outcome I had was training & had a great trainer which I was fortune for that because I know others in my class had it rough with trainers but long story short I drove for CR England, Pro Truck Lines, Trimac & the 3-1/2 years with Walmart private fleet has been the best company I’ve been with & best decision only thing I regret on my end is I should’ve came sooner but hey late is better then never lol. You almost got the experience to apply for Walmart keep your head up wether you go with a different company or not when you get the 30months apply for Walmart & see how it is for you I mean you already know how the work is but this time you’ll get all the perks that Walmart offers!
I figured that out after a couple of years with them, I don't regret it because I had to start somewhere, but I'm happy I left.
A recruiter called me just yesterday! 😂
Those 15 dollars are going to be the new norm for new drivers!
Jb-hunt is doing the same thing! Letting drivers go or firing them too!
Its less miles for more cpm or more miles les cpm. New drivers with less pay to make it seem normal to the next generation.
So basically, trucking is going to be slave pay! 😅
Well said my friend. Speak the truth.
Hey, glad to see ur channel growing, especially all the views on this vid. U put in the work, u deserve it!
I hear HM England pays good. One requirement is that you love tea. Cheers.
Tell England take this job and shove it
"I'm unionizing my feet and I'm applying at jobs" 😂😂😂
Just know that many states are now trying to pass legislation that will allow undocumented immigrants to obtain a CDL. They're already allowed to get a regular driver license in more than 20 states. Our borders are wide open and these people are willing to work for extremely low wages. Once that happens, driving a truck will become a minimum wage job.
Lower standards, ha. When no one else would hire me, well here I am. You said it best, it's a start.
You hit the nail on the head. They do not want smart, confident drivers who know they're worth. That's why they take these guys off the street and train them.
Our local hospital is looking for ER doctors, you should apply.
Hee hee 😜
Haven't heard very much good about C.R. England
ORGANIZE WITH YOUR UNIONS. IT WORKS
This a great video, you couldn’t have explained what’s going on in the trucking industry any better. I hope you have much success in your future endeavors. 👍🏿
Employers get a tax credit worth thousands of dollars for hiring people out of public assistance. These people never last long, but employers still get to keep the credit, and they depend upon this churning attrition to keep generating more tax credits. Lucrative!
Also they get a big tax break for vets and bigger for disabled vets.
@@theTIVANshow I don't think you get my point.
@@JG-tt4sz the point is your driving a slow truck , making 1/2 what the national average is for a company driver and not happy
I agree especially the stuff about training. I just had an almost identical thing happen with Ashley PNW. They cut our local pay from 75.00 flat rate for local & 125.00 for California to $15.00/hr! The same for detention after the first 2 hrs. I left them fri the 20th because of that and too many other things to name. Thank you for putting this video out there. Drivers do need to organize for sure, as a driver who drove truck back in the day when most our work was done for free I don’t want and can’t afford to go backwards!
They're looking for slaves nothing more...
Man u spit nothing but facts...💯...and your delivery kept me captivated....💯
You're right all companies are doing the same thing
I met a new CR England driver on a dollar general account while I was with Werner. I by no means loved Werner but they guaranteed me 1400 a week minimum at the time as long as I was on that account. The CR England guy was capped at 700 a week on that account. If they dropped a rolltainer they would be charged 50 per rolltainer. They couldn’t keep CR England drivers ok that account and it showed why. For the labor and bs and that pay … it’s sad. Companies treat new and experienced drivers like shit. We’re all expendable. There’s no “family” or rewards for “loyalty” at the end of the day were a necessary cog in a poorly maintained machine and if they think we can be replaced to up productivity or increase profit we we will be.
mega carriers only good for mandatory time. after a year go find a real job. otr is garbage these days. lot of better paying cdl -a jobs
This is the case with so many companies. They forget all too quickly, when things go south, who got them where they are!... and it ain't the noob, straight out of school! For this reason alone, many companies are eliminating their overhead, getting rid of experienced drivers, bringing in shit talent. Then the "new, inexperienced" drivers cost them more money in damages, late fees, no shows, complaints ( both customers and drivers), OS&D category, wear and tear on their equipment, CSA scores go through the roof. Then after the "new" school guys have run their course, these companies look for "new, old school" talent, bump the pay up, but keep all the stupid rules and regulations and ball busting morons in charge, who require you to work overtime for shit pay, drive the once new, now shitty equipment, work holidays and weekends, and sacrifice your home time and good benefits to serve them. These companies can't understand, that it was their 1st step in cutting good drivers, that ruined them for life and put them in this endless cycle.
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Word of advice, look for companies that specialize in specific industrial goods or hazmat. Thank me later.
The mega carriers are putting the little guys out of business, by offering huge discounts on shipping rates. Making it hard for the small companies to survive.
They are cutting your pay so they can kill off the competition.
Back when I started in 2006. We were paid $.28 per mile and it was air miles so you would often have to drive hundreds of miles a week for free.
Congratulations you just figured out there business model!
Leave them as quickly as you can. You’ll be amazed how much more there is out here.
I was with them for 8 years as a trainer. I did buy and pay off a truck with them. Took that truck to Landstar and never looked back.
New guy talking about the industry, 😂 driver make the change and never look back! Cr England will always be a shady company.
I started at CR england in 2014 my contract was 9 months I left in 4 months and only had to pay about half what they tell you in the class because they pro rated it and the do it in monthly payments you dont pay it all upfront. I still drive truck today but starting to think about finding another career because they have too many idiots out here and the automatic just means no one is learning how to drive the truck.
England never gave a dam about their drivers. They are a rotating door out to work there newbies for 5-6 months and then terminate them n charge them for 3 weeks of driving school that they charge 6k for. Then England charges you 18% interest on a 5k loan! So it's a win win for England.😢 thats why all the professional drivers out there Hate England n there newbie drivers!
That has to be illegal they can’t just terminate a driver for no reason and then still charge for the schooling just a FYI they are paying a big fee for charging y’all for the school each check you get when it was suppose to be free after a year of completion, I’m glad I don’t work for them and glad I got pulled over the day of my test we them causing me to be let go of the schooling with no strings attached!
Thank you Agustin for what you have done at CR England sometimes we don’t get the appreciation that we do for other people (companies) or other people I’m gonna be coming on board in a couple of months. Thank you for all the info.
Fatigue can happen to anyone. Not just older driver.
Martin Brower is doing the same bs. They have taken away the good pay and brought in new drivers.
What I like about USA is that you can still kind of express your opinion and have some freedom. I agree with you 💯
No you can't. You can't voice your opinion at all in America. Try it and see what happens to your ass
Apparently there is a severe driver shortage...
B.s!
That’s right, if you are not comfortable with a company, just move on, don’t stay and live miserable, that’s not the way to live
Cost of living is going up that means I need a raise not a pay cut bye bye
When I trained with CRST 11yrs ago, I had 33 minutes of actual driving time, and never backed the truck once and still got my CDL
U might as well come on over to Martens my boy
Marten transport?
@@augustineramos_ Yes Sirrr
I’m tryna go to marten i have 5 month experience im
Apply at 6 months , do they have terminals in PA ?
@antskee8505 Yea u need 6 Months And Yea Carlisle , PA Goggle it
I agree, that's 1 of the reason I walked away after 24yrs.
As for Union, been there done that, they don't do nothing for ya
Only on master freight contracts
Let me give you insight on dedicated accounts. CR England has a contract with Walmart, which means they provide trucks and drivers specifically for them. Since you guys experienced a pay cut, I'm guessing the contract ended and was renegotiated. If that's the case, considering the current freight market, it was probably renegotiated at the current freight market rate, which is lower compared to before. Many mega carriers that have dedicated accounts ending this year or next will likely face the same outcome. Now a lot of companies driver will feel what the owners operators are feeling on current situation.
What I was getting at in this video was corporate greed, cr England has the money to do right by their drivers and they don’t.
You are absolutely correct, As you mentioned, basically new drivers can easily replace you guys. Unfortunately, from a business perspective, that would be the best approach since they have new driver coming left and right. Additionally, I have noticed that many local job postings now require a minimum of two years of experience.
TRUTH! My friend..sad but true.
This is the worst company in the USA ! 😅
I love love love that “ The Owner of Cr England came to YOUR YARD” I can not tell you how many times I watched that.
CR England , Warner, swift and a few others are usually terrible companies to work for. ( I know, I've been driving truck now for about 22 years
I worked at c r england in 1987 and 1988. They had 105 trucks. We were treated like gold. Good drivers good company. The grandsons took over and they seemed to want to grow at any expense The easiest place to cut expenses was driver pay.
Quit. There’s better out there and desperately hiring too. I’m local $32 an hour at clock in. In California as well. Plus $4 or $6 an hour for every hour work towards pension. Plus free medical. We make $90,000-$110,000 minimum a year start. Don’t be afraid brother. Teamsters. Non union is shit. You get brainwashed and taken advantage of
I worked for England, Chicago Intermodal for 8 years and 8 months. Finally moved on to an hourly company. I feel you bro.
I walked out last week due to this similar issues. No extra paid for staying out waiting for load. Any trucking accepting no experience will absolutely not paid driver what they are worth. I move on and found another trucking with a week. Experience paid!! Don't comply with low cent paid
Take a little time in your life to learn about punctuation and how to use it. Reading your comment was painful, to say the least.
@@curtriedel5036 cleaning my ass hole only takes a few minutes
Thank you very much for saying the true. Everything you said. 100%. TRUE
CR ENGLAND= Can’t Recruit Every New Guy/Gal Leaves After Ninety Days!
Whoever came up with that should work at NASA. 😂
The CEOs and other C-level employees will never take pay cuts. It'll always fall on the workers.
I drove line-haul (relay) for years and it is good to be unionized. We were part of the Teamsters and I never had to pay a dime for health insurance, including expensive hospitalizations. I was making $0.64/mile just 2 years in. As you get older that kind of 100% paid insurance goes a long, long way.