5 Worst Driving Habits for Karting (#5 IS SUPER IMPORTANT)
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- Over the years, I have coached many drivers. Even though all of the drivers have their own unique driving styles, they all tend to have a few of these bad habits. After looking back on my career, I noticed that I too had these bad habits. Find out what they are and how to fix them in this video!
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Starting my rookie season this year and definitely enjoyed these tips, thank you!
Glad I could help!
@@Jordan-xe3bk thank you! I’m stoked!
Me 2
I wish you well
Same this was my first season luckily I had people who have been doing it a long time to help me out and I came in second before my family member did that has been racing longer than me
One bad habit that I had to break myself from is looking ahead. I would keep my sight line so close to the front of the kart. Looking ahead to the next braking point, apex, and corner exit has helped me a ton. Thanks for the video, will be taking a few of these to the track next time. Always something new to learn everytime you get in a kart.
Yeah that’s a good one to break!
An added benefit is it helps 'slow things down' a bit.
I'm not a racer but I do ĺove the fun I get from my kart. I added a kx100 dìrt bike engine and disc brakes to the front. I dont run on public streets.private drive ways and parking lots not to anger anyone. At 65 yaers old , the fun IGet out of this is incredible.
Thanks for this video Ryan. Saw it when new and finally went out today. Worked on hand positioning and pushing the wheel and it made a huge difference. 1st day beating my 2 friends (I started a few months ago, they had more prior experience).
Dude that's great! Keep it up!
Thanks Ryan as a rookie just starting out and having passed my Lo206 course and moved up to a Rotax. These are great tips and number (4) I found using my knees on the gas tank like the dirt bike helped me keep from moving around. I can't wait to try the push on outside of steering wheel. Cheers,
Wow never heard of doing that before I have to try it. Thanks for watching!
Super specific and super helpful! Thanks Ryan
Edit: Your final tip about people not listening to their kart- I find this to be true about other things that require practice. I golfed competitively and had lots of opportunities to teach others. It always bewildered me that people couldn't stop themselves to make a new plan after they kept struggling with the same plan. Practicing with a purpose is the only way to practice.
Really appreciate the insight!
Super interesting vid man! Being somewhat tall (185cm/6ft), I fall into categories 2 and 3, 3 I am working on but still lean towards the inside on some corners. Really useful info, keep this up:)
Thanks for watching! Glad I can help!
I found the one about steering with your outside hand very interesting. I'm not really sure if I naturally do that or not, so I look forward to trying it out on track soon.
You’ll know if you do a few laps on handed. If it’s super difficult to use the outside hand, you probably weren’t doing it.
@Neo Gothic Racing yeah shifter is a different ball game because you have to do quite a bit of one handed driving
Another thing that happens, when you use your outside hand to push, is that your weight distribution also moves to the outside, lifting the inside rear wheel. This will turn the kart better as there is no differential but straight axle.
I don't think it's natural at all, you need to be conscious of it and eventually, it becomes second nature. All professional drivers do this (I'm not referring to karting).
Thanks man especially for driving position habit . I improved for half a second on the track
That’s amazing!
Awesome man. Thanks again for the lessons !!
Always good advice, Ryan! 🙏
I appreciate you uploading these videos! great tips!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing👌Also, love your Seinfeld-ish ending tune😅
I signed into amateur karting league--- and I drove kart maybe 10 times in my life, this is one of videos I find useful! thanks!!!
Wow…I need to break all 5 of these ❤🎉😊
Great video and content.
Watching from the British Isles. A most useful presentation delivered with aplomb and verve.
Great vid! I’m only a sim racer but #2 helped me the most at my league race at Mid Ohio last night. I was so much more consistent pushing instead of pulling. 👍🏾
Nice! That’s great!
Such practical tips! Subscribed 😍
Thank you!
Great video as always Ryan! i have improved a lot by just watching your onboards, in my last race i even had the pace to win but i got taken out, ive been involved in incidents in the past 3 races, any tips for that?
Most of the time you just have to anticipate contact. If you know you are about to get hit, brake a bit early and carry the break into the corner.
I’m doing my first rental kart enduro this week. I’ll work hard on hand position and steering input. Thank you for making this video.
Goodluck! Keep me posted on the results!
Nice Video, and I learned something, never too late to get better... Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thx mate, I'll try to improve
Great video! My son and I love watching and learning together.
That’s awesome! Thank you!
Great tips Ryan, hadn't thought of steering with more push.
Thank you!
Having a look behind too often, or for the wrong reasons is another bad habit. I had issues with it at a young age and would completely lose focus on hitting my marks, thinking too much about what the others would do instead of just doing my stuff.
Newcomers: look in front of you and focus! Great video again Ryan!
Yes! That’s great! To this day I have to remind myself to stop doing that.
@@NorbergNation Same here, have to remind myself from time to time. Keep up the great job on and off track man! Peace
Yeah but also don’t go 100% in the other direction and never look back if someone is catching you😃
Thanks for this just going into jounier tkm
Good video mate. Thanks.
Great video as always Ryan!
Thanks man!
Just started Karting and I have all five bad habits.......this definitely helps. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I don't race anymore but will get back into it in a couple years when I'm an adult, I used to have the worst habits, accelerate too early and used to drive hunched over instead of sitting back into the seat, very good tips
Thank you! Hope you get back in the seat soon
Thnx your advise makes a lot of sense
This is such good advice thank you so much. I do have a question related to 4, is it okay to hit the gas at the apex of the corner. I generally brake heavy and lift my brake until the apex then apply gas steadily and only stomp down once I feel the kart feels it could handle it
Intelligent content. Thanks for this.
Good information, thank you
#2 when pushing with "outside" hand it necessarily moves to the top arc of the wheel which is the position where you have most control.
My hand moves slightly higher but I apply pressure still in the middle of the wheel
I love these tips and it's great to hear them from an advanced driver who sees similar things. For arrive and drive karts, my son and I are pretty short. Even with seat padding, we can't reach the steering wheel in the same way. So we have to drive with our hands a little on the low side. Since most of the kids I coach are more "normal" in size, I also tell them to put their hands on the outermost part of the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. It's way easier to make micro-adjustments with less effort versus any other hand position. I find it just as important to keep your hands in those positions and not move them around the steering wheel as they are driving around the track.
Question: As you push the steering wheel, do you also use your arm as a brace to help the chassis? I'm sure it depends on the corner but I've heard of some karters doing that and I would imagine that it's a lot like the leaning to the outside of the kart. I know you mentioned that leaning puts additional stress on the chassis and tires but what about arm bracing?
I'm not totally sure I understand what bracing mean, but I prepare my outside arm for a corner before I enter. It does work as a brace to hold the steering wheel from kicking back.
@@NorbergNation Thank you for your response and I'll try to be better at my explanation, as I'm not 100% sure what they mean either but they explain "bracing" as to make your outside arm as part of the stiffness of the chassis by pushing back against the seat with the outside arm somewhat tightening the chassis's flexibility. I don't really care for this type of driving technique because it puts in an added variable to the feedback of the kart. Also, as the driver fatigues, then the driver's input will be different, which is no different than leaning too much, shifting in your seat, or doing different types of body adjusting inputs. I like your explanation way better and what the outside arm pushing up on the steering wheel should be doing and keeping your body as neutral as possible so the kart is predictable and consistent.
PS: We got to meet RPG at Pat's Acres last week and they were so nice. Luke Selliken was there is also a friend of mine and I raced with him indoors many years ago when he was just a little kid. Super nice guy.
@@racingforbeginners154 Okay I understand. Using your arm in that way should not affect the chassis at all. There is no way your arm is strong enough to stiffen the flexibility of the kart. I also wouldn't suggest using your arm in that way. Your arms should always have a bend in them making it impossible to push that hard.
Glad you go to meet everyone! They are great people!
On the leaning part. If u r turning left your body should be leaning to an opposite of that which is right. This makes your inner back wheel lift from the ground making your go kart exit faster into the corner but on the straight well it’s obvious keep your body still but pretty much on every corner I recommend your go kart racers get in a habit of what I said some of you might already knew that but this is useful for newer racers
Hey Ryan if you have time, it would be really cool if you could do a video about basic karting gear, like what brand of helmet, ect..., is good and budget friendly? Nice video too!
I’ve done one like this already called “what I bring to races” it’s on my channel
@@NorbergNationI’ve watched it and you have really Nice gear btw. I kinda didnt write what I intentionally wanted to say. What I tried to say was if could do a video for the beginners at karting. Something like what you would recommend buying as a first helmet, gloves or boots, that are relatively budget friendly.
@@ngt450 in my video on how to start karting I recommend a bunch of stuff
At number four: body position, instead of saying keep still! Maybe you should say shift your weight slowly and before the corner. This is how you do it to not upset the kart.
Summary: teach how to be that “1%” instead of saying you can't handle it don't do it. In reality, it is very simple as long as you are familiar with basic physics.
I loved all the real life examples and clips
Appreciate the tips! I feel that i am much stronger and apply the throttle in high speed corners better than low speed. In the high speed i can feel the steering get super light through the corner which lets me know im near the limit but at hair pins and slower corners you aren’t going as fast and it’s kinda tough for me to know if i’m on the limit or if i’m applying the throttle too early/too late. Any tips on that?
It’s much harder to feel the kart wanting to step out in slow speed corners because you are not really on the edge. But try and listen to the sound of the engine, if you hear the engine bog down, you are scrubbing speed. Also, try and see if you are running out of track on exit. If you are you probably accelerated too soon.
Wow great advice!! Thanks man
Thanks for watching!
Think that your video will be helpful for a French driver like me who is listening you from France 😂 , thx for the tips Ryan, I like to learn from you, I hope you’ll understand me ! 😂
That’s so cool! Merci for watching!
nice video! thanks for these tips, saludos desde Chile !!!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video 👍
Thanks for watching!
I reckon point 6 could be always looking ahead to the apex as you approach a corner and point 7 could be steering the least amount possible for a full lap. What do you think?
Tip 5 is my current issue (admittedly I only race electric in door karts but they’re starting a league and host monthly endurance races) I drive the same no matter the kart and my last endurance race really showed me how damaging that really is. I dropped from 3 to 7th because of it
Hey dude, I have a question about your tip about not shifting your weight in the seat. I've always thought that by pre-loading your weight to the outside edge of the seat before a turn (shifting right for a left hander, etc), this makes the weight transfer more seamless. As in, once the weight loads onto the tire and you get that peak lateral force, if you didn't pre-load the outside of your seat, your body will slide a bit and result in a secondary surge of lateral force on the tire, which could potentially upset the kart if you're already at the limit. As a side note, I've always been renting a kart for my races instead of owning, so my seat isn't as snug as I'm sure it should be lol.
But yeah, just wondering how you think about pre-loading the seat in this scenario. I've been coaching for a bit now and pre-loading is something I've taught regularly (although it's in the crappy rental karts at my local track with giant fat man seats lol), just want to make sure I'm not teaching the wrong thing. Cheers
Most seats when they fit correctly there isn’t any space to shift your weight in the seat. Preloading the kart is the only way to transfer the weight but even then sitting up straight is the best way to drive.
It sounds like your seat isn't sized properly.
my son holds steering wheel with one high and one low at 7:00 and 2:00... he hasn't lost a race in 3 years.. Jean Alesi use to hold at 12:00 and 9:00... Senna use to push and Prost use to pull.... sometimes some general rules cant be in stone but these were days when F-1 cars had wheels as go karts still do...
Nice video, dude. One question about listening to the kart, how can you tell when there’s more corner speed left in the kart?
Normally you feel slow through the corner or you don’t use as much track on exit. Go until the kart starts to slide a bit then back it off from there.
Push is better than pull because when you push, you have your seat to react against your push whereas when you pull, you will be pulling your body towards the steering wheel which makes it harder to be accurate and precise with your steering inputs then.
Thanks for this. As a former biker and speedway rider I almost automatically use my weight on the kart especially when i get into a slide to help controle sometimes it works especially on a slippy track but maybe I am doing this too much 🤙🤙
Yea bikers often lean the wrong way, because with a bike you obviously lean into the corner while with a kart you lean outwards to put more weight on the outer tires.
Nice Video! But I got to say me as a very light driver really Profits of positioning myself to the outside of the kart in fast turns to not lose grip while staying on the throttle
Thanks for the tips! I find myself slightly disagreeing on the pushing/pulling part. I think the advice is generally correct, but there are and have been drivers who "pull" at the very top of motorsport, in Formula 1 and rallying included, although always been a minority. I think that if one is used to driving a manual gearbox, the pulling is much more natural, especially with the hand that is not using the stick. When switching to a kart that requires no gear changes, it's not very easy or necessarily faster to teach your hands to drive differently if you go to the track once a month or something like that.
Yeah there are always different disciplines to use in different forms of motorsports. The push pull method is for karting only, even then mainly single speed classes. Ive driven race cars and it doesn't work so well in those.
you must distinguish servo and direct wheel, In karting every slight unnecessery movement of the steering wheel is lost speed( ackerman steering, fix axle behind) so you must apply the steering angle correct and mantain it, if you pull down you cant apply as much force as with the push, where you have a stiff contact to the shoulder and this is the key in karting, it is much easier to have a good posture with arm almost stretched, pushing the wheel up as with a pull, in a rally car you are almost on the steering wheel, the force on the wheels is not as direct as in karting, there you can make faster and longer movements of the steering wheels which are not common in karting where you move maybe only small amount of degrees to left or right. Mantaining a correct angle not allowing the whells to change your steering whells a bit while you go over bumps or grip, is much easier when you lock the steering with your inner palm and push , and extend it to your shoulder.
I've seen Max hold his wheel low. It is truly about driving style and Kart setup.
Even though I kart only once every few months (due to the fact I CAN'T do it every week even if I wanted to) it's still a rlly nice useful vid
Glad I can help in some way
A smaller steering wheel needs less input than a bigger one, but it is harder to turn. Holding a wide grip makes it easier to turn than holding a narrow grip.
Wish I could’ve seen this sooner. Had an X30 race yesterday and I could’ve fixed my pulling habit. I was on my super old motor but I still probably could’ve been way faster since it’s a super bumpy track that you need a lot of control at. Got 2nd but with my good motor and maybe more than 15 overall laps at the track and the habit fix, I could’ve won.
It’ll take some time to break that habit but we’ll worth it in the end
I watched this before karting with my friends. Hopefully I beat them because of these great tips 👍
positioning hands in non serious karting can be on 5 and 7 o’clock because you are working with the wheel also with your body, so it is physically easier and movements are more accurate
Point 3 is something I have to work on being 5 foot 1 tall. I slide around no matter how much I move the seat or put padding around me.
Something that I always need to remind myself is to not death grip the wheel. It causes more fatigue.
Yes that’s true!
One big thing to kart setup is, if you can't unload the inside rear tyre off the ground mid corner, you're not rotating through the apex perfectly. This just slows you down.
Pulling pushing of the wheel was a huge thing for me. When ever I see my footage I see I'm pulling rather than pushing. Going karting in a few days and hopefully I'll get faster
Goodluck!
hey dude, I'm coming down to the charlotte area to visit some family for thanksgiving and my LO206 is coming with me for open practice. Can I ask what sprocket combo you guys run at GoPro? I live in Pgh and race at Pitt Race BTW..
Im not sure what the gear would be in LO206
awseome, thanks!!
I'm coming out of retirement after 15 years of not racing. I'm definitely trying to watch as many videos as I possibly can. I wish somebody could go to the track with me and work with me like this to get me back like I used to be.
Hi Ryan, I'd like to ask you a little question, if it's not a bother. How much time difference between the Real Best lap and the Ideal lap of the mychron is normal? in my case it makes approximately 14 partials and I have a difference of 3 tenths (between real and ideal). its alot? how much should that difference be? Thank you so much!!!!
You should try to make it around 3 to 4 sectors depending on the track and you should only be around 0.15-0.2 off that lap time
You missed looking behind and also tge throttle thing idk about okj, ok and x30 but with rotax you need to be on the gas after breaking not step on it but just few mm so when coming out the rpms havent fallen so much
Yes and no. The rotax still needs time to breath. You might get on it earlier but you still have to wait on the kart before getting back to power.
If a steering wheel is a circle…how does it have a widest part?
For the first point, I have short arms, and unfortunately for rental karts, the seats can only go forward so much. Even at the closest point, if I hold the wheel at the widest point (10 & 3) my arms would be almost fully extended. So I have to hold the wheel where it would be closer to me without fully extending my arms, which is the bottom part of the wheel.
Can u make a video on how to overtake without loosing time and when to give up the position
I like that idea! Thanks for watching!
Braking to early/exelerating early
When it comes to the LO206, I was under the impression you had to get on the gas a bit early because of the lack of power. Is this wrong? Appreciate the tips.
You were a track marshal for my first race ever at OKC back in late 2019.
Yes with Lo206 you have to get on the gas much earlier. But the concept still applies just not as dramatic
@@NorbergNation Sweet thanks. I actually put to use your advice about pushing up when steering to my sim racing and shaved a few tenths off my time. I never realized i was steering with my right arm mostly.
@@smoothopsgp3994 that’s awesome!
im struggling with the rokgp engine acceleration out of corners especially tight ones any tips ? i’m a x30 driver and it was my first time with rokgp
i tried to be really careful and apply small inputs before applying full throttle but the acceleration was still not there
@@ezzuan1593 You probably need to change your carburetion. The only thing on the driving side that I can suggest is being as smooth as possible with the throttle application. The ROK's are really sensitive to aggressive acceleration so the smoother the better.
Hey a question how much should I pay the teams for the winter series and one question is going alone or being in a team better??
Normally it’s better to be with a team so that you get data and help from other drivers. I’m not sure what teams charge so you’d have to ask them.
@@NorbergNation can u tell me all the teams that participate in the race
Can these tips be used in sim racing as well
Local guys have been advising me to get on the gas before turning in to make the kart turn better, your third point seems to refute this.
(I race 4 stroke on road courses), that advice apply mainly to 2 strokes on kart specific tracks?
It applies to 4 strokes as well at karting tracks. I’m not sure about road course racing.
Can you make a video about identify the different types of kerbs, and how to use them in your favor
Just try them.
You just have to try them. Rule of thumb with curbs is you want to hit them with the kart straight. That way you drive over it instead of bouncing off of it
This dude looks like Max Verstappen
I just did my first go cart drive i can see me getting addicted to karting so thanks for the tips
Thanks for watching!
I haven't driven in awhile and I wondered if your still willing to do coaching sessions. If so, what is the best way to reach you to discuss?
Yeah private message me on Instagram or Facebook
With going to the outside of the kart. It’s sooooo annoying when you go around a high g force corner and you haven’t gone out for a while so your body gets pushed out and you can feel the kart getting less grippy
Super helpful, but what about holding both feet on the gas and brake? Took me so long to get out of this habit.
Yes! That is a terrible habit. Might revisit this topic.
Great video but you are a bit backwards in what you said with the 1st bad habit (widest grip which is good but the way and reasons why were explained wrong).
A smaller wheel for one gives faster inputs, not slower than a bigger wheel for the same given angular change (i.e., you have to turn less, not more with a smaller wheel in a circumferential travel distance)... Think circumference!!!
Using two extremes here, an 8" diameter wheel and a 15" diameter wheel, an 8" wheel has a circumference of 25.13" where as a 15" wheel has a circumference of 47.12", so lets say that you need to turn the steering wheel 90° to get the correct front wheels angle for a particular corner, your hands have to travel just 6.28" of circumferential distance where as the same 90° steering wheel angle on the 15" wheel is 11.78" (i.e., nearly double that of the 8" wheel) so while slower (or have to physically move faster to get the same 90° in the same time), the advantage is more precise control for small corrections in steering angle because it take more circumferential travel to equal the same angular change. Its easier for a person to accurately judge say 1" of movement than it is 1/4" of movement, especially when these movements often have to be very rapid (more rapid the fast your are going). So if you needed to correct say 5°, with the 8" wheel, that is only 0.35" of circumferential movement. That same 5° correction on the 15" wheel is 0.65" of circumferential movement. A lot of it has to do with your natural reduced ability to perform fine motor skills when there is adrenaline and cortisol in your blood stream.
Another reason kind of goes with the #2 bad habit (pushing rather than pulling) and your pushing hand/arm having to cross your body more in large angular inputs. By gripping high and / or low, you are used different and often weaker deltoid muscles during larger angular inputs and your arms at just more extended so different muscle groups there too are being used which all goes back to harder to be precise in your inputs.
The last reason is simply more mechanical advantage if the wheel is no perfectly round. This is why back in the day before power steering was common place in regular cars, not only did they have much lower ratio steering gearboxes but cars also had much larger diameter steering wheels than they do today with modern P/S systems to give the driver more mechanical advantage (i.e., less force to generate a given torque on the steer column shaft).
Hey Ryan, I want to start go karting. I'm 14 years olds, What do you think is better, a 125 or a 100? I'm on low budget.
100cc is probably better for a budget
I'm an arrive and drive enthusiast. I drive electric with shoulder harnesses and gas with no harnesses. My problem is I have neck issues. My doctor recommended a frontal restraint device. I have only found one system even close (Simpson Hybrid Sport and 360+) but even Simpson told me that system really needs shoulder straps. Have you seen any solution that can provide that frontal protection I can use no matter what kart type I’m driving? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Unfortunately, no. I haven't really had an issue like that before
ok im very proud of myself because I don't have any bad habits
Good for you!
Same I was hoping for some tips but I'm clean on all of them lol maybe I'm just slow
Very helpful t
Thank you
You open to do driving reviews?. Would like you to review my race from over the weekend.
I do them through a group called Racers360 but I’m thinking about doing one for my channel soon
@@NorbergNation OK. I will attempt thru 360. Unless you would like to use my vid for the channel. Would like a critique from you.
We race dirt and our driver would constantly not sit all the way back in the seat and pull himself up closer to the steering wheel and his arms would get so tired to where he could barely keep control of the kart . He’s 9 years old and this past weekend we only focused on sitting back in the seat and he picked up a whole second in lap times.
That’s so cool to hear!
in the example about 2:40 he is doing the opposite of what you say. visible most convincingly at the end, where he adjusts his loose hand.
Regarding shifting weight in the kart, I notice you shift your weight fore and aft on the straights. And it’s only momentarily.Can you tell me more about that?
There are two things that I am doing when I lean forward on the straights. 1. I am reducing drag on the straights. 2. I am shifter weight off the rear axle to help with acceleration.
@@NorbergNation I totally understand the weight shift and drag reduction. I just noticed that you don’t do that for the entire straight. It’s Just for a moment forward then back to regular driving position yet there’s plenty of straight left. I wasn’t sure if you’re simulating a pendulum effect or something?
I’m getting a prokart any tips for me?
Can you elaborate on when the kart is "pointed". Does that mean when the steering wheel is back to straight? I see most karters hit the gas a few feet after the apex
"pointed" means when the kart is relatively facing the direction you are wanting to go. If you are only 90 degrees through a 180 degree corner, the kart isn't really pointed the correct way. If you wait until you are 150-160 degrees through the corner, then you are pointed In the right direction
Thank you I am in the 5 des
first race today these tips helped a lot got p1, but thats bc everyone got stuck in a pile, ill take though
Hey a win is a win
What to do when youre really nervous with youre stearing wheel. Im always losing tents of seconds because of that probblem
If you work on bar habit #2 you should be able to smooth your hands out.
@@NorbergNation could you also make a video on how to have a good start bc i always lose places in the start
@@aliboy9538 Sounds good! I'll keep that in mind.
I have no choice but to hold my steering wheel at the widest part as I have a f1 style wheel
U forgot the habit where people use other karts as brakes. P.S, still salty about the last time I went karting. Lovely video tho mate
hahaha thank you!