Netflix's Avatar is WORSE than you think

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • Man, oh man! Do I REGRET wanting to have a live action version of one of my favorite shows as a kid. I just watched all of Netflix's Live Action of Avatar: The Last Airbender and it is so much WORSE than people are saying - and I really don't understand why more people aren't talking about these things.
    So, join me as I describe all my gripes and disappointments with this adapataion.
    #AvatarTheLastAirbender #NetflixAvatar #avatarreview
    00:00 Intro
    01:23 Outline
    01:51 Production
    03:09 Runtime
    04:38 Lore/Story
    09:00 "Fan Service"
    14:30 Acting/Direction
    17:43 Character Misinterpretation
    22:56 Music/Orchestration
    23:46 Tone
    24:24 Conclusion
    25:27 Outro
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  • @criles
    @criles  3 місяці тому +64

    It got renewed…*sigh* 😒

  • @valerievanwyk6122
    @valerievanwyk6122 3 місяці тому +33

    When Kyoshi gets so much attention, I just hear that line from Mean Girls "Stop trying to make Kyoshi happen, it's not going to happen!"

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +4

      YES!

  • @niharikaparsoya
    @niharikaparsoya 3 місяці тому +27

    one thing that was off putting to me was that Mai and Ty Lee seem so out of place in the scenes that is feels as if the are just fans cosplaying as those characters and standing around doing nothing with no personality to them while in the original they were one of my most liked characters

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому +1

      Even in the short memories of zuko s childhood, ty lee was doing cartwheeling and such.
      And here she just stands around like she s lost on set... 😢

  • @alchemystudiosink1894
    @alchemystudiosink1894 3 місяці тому +19

    Part of the problem is that "Don't waste time." - Avatar the last airbender rarely has a full on filler episode. If its not a plot progression, its a character progression. Kiyoshi being a big part of everything else likely stems from the whole live action Mulan effect.

  • @collinsobonyo8764
    @collinsobonyo8764 3 місяці тому +18

    CGI Momo died and i barely noticed.😂 the oringinal creators made writing look easy.

  • @promosrus
    @promosrus 3 місяці тому +16

    When I saw a UA-cam clip of Kyoshi possessing Aang on Kyoshi Island fighting the fire nation I almost had to rewatch the original to make sure I wasn't being gaslit. All the money in the world to make one of the best adaptations possible and Netflix still fumbled. HARD. Some of the changes are baffling actually. And to have people starkly defend them, even while knowing how it was supposed to go is equally as baffling!!

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому

      Some people are so starved for Avatar content, that they ll take anything in and thinks it s "good".
      The sad thing is that it lowers the level for all of us.

  • @Zan_JM
    @Zan_JM 3 місяці тому +72

    So far, you’re the only other person I’ve seen calling out Lu Ten’s funeral as a fan service moment, and I feel validated. I totally agree. It was there mostly for fan service and a nostalgia dopamine rush. I could actively feel the writing trying to force me to feel an emotional response to the scene. But I just didn’t at all. We don’t know this Iroh well enough for that scene to matter. And it loses so much impact pulling it and Leaves From the Vine so far up in the story’s timeline. Baffling creative decisions galore. I also appreciate how you didn’t just blindly accept Iroh and Zuko’s portrayals like so many fans have been doing. I guess it’s subjective whether or not a person likes them, but the acting was off. And I can’t really tell if that’s the actors or the director’s fault. Probably more the director’s since they okayed the scene takes. Hoo boy, this show was tough to get through. I suppose now we’ll see if they can course correct at all with seasons 2 and 3 on the way.

    • @veganjotaro
      @veganjotaro 3 місяці тому +12

      This is exactly how I felt, too.

    • @areeba7045
      @areeba7045 3 місяці тому +8

      i'm glad im not alone in this because they literally used a scene with a tragic story behind it to make viewers feel sad- they had to use someone's REAL TRAGEDY to make the viewers feel emotions, emotions they would have already felt if they had written and directed the thing properly. i don't think there are enough people talking about how disrespectful it feels

    • @DIRECTEDBYH
      @DIRECTEDBYH 3 місяці тому +7

      i feel insulted just knowing a lot of people enjoy this. bc I feel like they don‘t appreciate why avatar was so great and they are rewarding netflix for making money out of a brand which many talented hard working people worked on

    • @veganjotaro
      @veganjotaro 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DIRECTEDBYH that's how I feel too.

    • @areeba7045
      @areeba7045 2 місяці тому +4

      @@DIRECTEDBYH i didnt wanna admit it but same 😶😶 because if they enjoyed the live action which sucked all the life out of the story and turned all the characters into shells of themselves then what did they even like about the original story really?? maybe it was just the bending they were into

  • @aguyirl
    @aguyirl 3 місяці тому +12

    There is an INSANE amount of fan service in this show that i feel is getting overlooked, stuff that has absolutely no value to someone who hasn't seen the original. I haven't finished your video, so i don't know if you mention this one but one of the biggest things that i'm seeing fans of the original appreciate is the cabbage guy. I don't think the cabbage guy works at all in this adaptation, they tease you with almost giving you the 'my cabbages' line a few times, before finally have him yell it dramatically. Which, AS FAN SERVICE, is great way to do it, but as a joke it presumably falls flat to someone who isn't familiar with the original.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      I was gonna include Cabbage Guy in this review but wanted to kinda keep it shorter, my original draft was like an hour dissection of this show haha

    • @aguyirl
      @aguyirl 3 місяці тому +1

      @@criles that's fair, i could go on and on about individual elements too. Especially episode 3, there's so much that doesn't work for me, and their commitment to TRYING to keep smaller plotlines unchanged while changing larger ones is baffling. There was no reason for the mechanist in this adaptation to be aiding the fire nation, to be honest I probably would have omitted him entirely, but i don't want to ramble haha.

  • @kommyang
    @kommyang 3 місяці тому +12

    Aang flying is actually a VFX issue more than it is a conscious decision. See Aang and the other air benders have always been "floaty" and in order to increase thier air control you would usuallly see them air bend under their feet or as a wave like iron man. This air animation was usually done with white streaks. In NETFLIX ATLA they opted to change the air animation to invisible blury waves that we can barely see. This dumb choice is why all of the air bending is underwhelming and dirty and yes makes it look like they can just fly. The only time we can actually see air bending is when there is dirt or random bullsrt in it.

  • @crissyjayfae
    @crissyjayfae 2 місяці тому +6

    The fact that they “didn’t want to waste time” but literally pulled storylines from the original’s seasons 2 & 3 is insane. The way they changed lore is infuriating. Sokka and Katara in the spirit world? Yue being a fox spirit? The Badger moles sensing emotions? I just don’t get why they changed LORE. Aang NOT bending water? Why? Ridiculous.

  • @thesunisup_
    @thesunisup_ 3 місяці тому +7

    I couldn't stand Aang’s fake accent (it's 100% fake because Gordon Cormier doesn't speak like that in real life)

  • @Naya_277
    @Naya_277 3 місяці тому +6

    The is the review right here that explains my frustrations I had with the acting , the robotic Iroh voice, the awkward tone of trying to mush in fan service like cabbage guy while trying to be “game of thrones “. Just adapting avatar from the comic strip would’ve made it easier but then again we’d probably still end up with gran gran exposition everywhere lol

  • @nicholasmcintyre6862
    @nicholasmcintyre6862 3 місяці тому +8

    Thank you for mentioning Aang flying. I was so mad when I saw that shit lol I was calling him Peter Pan for the rest of that episode

  • @KrytoRift
    @KrytoRift 3 місяці тому +14

    Vocal fry. Thats what I cant stand. I couldn't put my finger on it

    • @rodrigocorrea7857
      @rodrigocorrea7857 2 місяці тому +1

      Thisss I knew there was something bout his voice that threw me off😭

  • @dire213
    @dire213 3 місяці тому +41

    this may only be a nitpick but why is kiyoshi the one we see wielding the 4 elements in the intro and not roku?

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +11

      True!

    • @user-uu2xr3po4v
      @user-uu2xr3po4v 3 місяці тому +4

      because SHE, because OmaTHEMESSAGEShu etc

  • @gabbylipherps7454
    @gabbylipherps7454 3 місяці тому +26

    When it comes to the acting, I really think it comes from two places, first off the writing is so horrendous that I dunno how anyone could drone out emotionless exposition non stop and have it sound good, but also, it's the racial casting. Now I actually do appreciate the effort put in to having an asian cast, and especially after all the backlash with the movie of course netflix was gonna go out of their way to avoid that, but to find enough asian actors in north america for a cast this large, who look like the characters, can portray then decently, and be good actors... thats a massively tall order to fill and its easy to imagine that they basically had to take who ever showed up that could wear the shoes.

    • @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr
      @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr 3 місяці тому +1

      I didn’t like the acting from almost anyone at the start, but I eventually came around to enjoying the performances starting in ep3. For me, it got better with every episode after Ep.1. I’m convinced the real issue is the writing of the show and the direction. I don’t think it was the cast. It doesn’t help Netflix took out Katara and Sokka’s personalities. I liked Zuko and Iroh throughout for the most part. Even early on.

    • @gabbylipherps7454
      @gabbylipherps7454 3 місяці тому +2

      @@FullmoonPhantom-dn2srzuko was the only one really bringing it... but of course they screwed up his character just like everyone elses. It's like some sorta paradox where they expected everyone to just already know the story and characters so they didn't bother actually giving them their character arcs, yet also expected no one to have seen the original so they just exposition dump non stop.

    • @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr
      @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr 3 місяці тому

      @@gabbylipherps7454 They were probably trying to please both audiences. New people coming to the show who know literally nothing and also trying to not step on the toes of the fans like the last movie which disappointed even diehard fans. Even children who loved the tv show (speaking as one of the disappointed children in the 2010 movie theater audience). Gotta have that built in fanbase after all. Especially when these adaptations are expected to be instant flops. These adaptations are also making me realize there is a lot of exposition in the cartoon series. If it’s happened twice now. Besides, they’re probably thinking these movies can be huge successes if the right cards are played. The next HP, LotR, Pirates film, Star Wars, Hunger Games, Twilight, GoT, etc. They added some content to keep it interesting for everyone including the fans who already know the story like I loved seeing the past Avatars as spirits and when Aang is in the Avatar state.
      The Netflix series kind of reminds me of the other anime-to-live action from recent years. I think they’re trying to approach it the same and turn it into the next YA movie trend. These series aren’t allowed to breathe like other shows. They’re only getting 5-8 episodes max and may not even get another season so as much has to be packed into the one shot as possible. That’s why so much has to be combined and cut. That’s why they’re trying to play it extra safe by not risking modern audiences getting upset over certain aspects of the franchise from years ago. I also think the Netflix series suffers from adults not understanding the importance of early Avatar considering they’re trying to add in all this “maturity”, but they don’t seem to understand they’re revealing too much too early and ruining dramatic moments like The Southern Air Temple. And it’s too early for Ozai and Azula. Netflix writers of Avatar come off like they don’t know how to write a story.
      For me, even though there were issues, it still worked imo. I’m willing to add Avatar to the decent list with OP LA.

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому

      The actors are okay. Some have shown they can do better performances elsewhere (katara and iroh s actors for ex)
      So the issue is with the directionand the writing.
      Even the best actor can t do well with "i know who i am, i like banana cakes and goofing with my friends"... 😢
      The issue is that this nepotism bleeded in the writing and direction hirings. And they got a team full of rookies or people with not the right skills. (The main writer of this adaptation is a sports journalist 😂)

  • @bbhdd6181
    @bbhdd6181 3 місяці тому +17

    You're optimistic about the Avatar Studios film? Interestingggg. Also, THANK YOU for making a video about exactly what I was thinking of this adaptation. An honourable mention has to be Yue somehow looking and sounding like she just stepped out of a tiktok (and her WIG), and she and Sokka kissing while Aang is right there meditating. As someone who also grew up with Avatar and is a big fan, you did a great job articulating exactly what went wrong here. Please make more of these as the other seasons unfortunately get released lol

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +3

      I mean yeah if DiMartino and Konietzko are behind it I’m more optimistic than the 2nd and 3rd season that Netflix will do for avatar

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +3

      And yeah I probably will make more, and yeah Yue’s wig was like a party city wig it was awful haha

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому

      Ugh that wig... Even the movie did it better 😅

  • @munkaccino
    @munkaccino 3 місяці тому +22

    the one thing that bothers me immensely on this series is that none of the old characters are actually old, they're all 40 to 50 something people with the most unconvincing old person makeup, just like they did in prometheus lol

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому +1

      Pakku and his wig. 😅
      It reminded me of the alien make up of the original star trek séries 😅

  • @usagi77777772003
    @usagi77777772003 3 місяці тому +7

    For me, this LA adaptation was a snooze fest...
    I couldn't watch more than two episodes...the acting's (aside from Zuko, Sokka, and some veteran actors) pretty bad and the show's obsessed with telling rather than showing. So much of the characterization relied on characters either talking about themselves or others describing their character traits. I want to see our characters grow, not listen to them being described. For example, if a character is a glutton, I'd rather see it for myself by them pigging out rather than them going on a monologue describing themselves or others doing it for them.
    Also, there's no chemistry between our main trio (Sokka, Aang, and Katara) and their entire relationship was rushed. It's like the creators just assumed we watched the original animated series and will project our preconceived love for the characters onto their show, so they didn't bother developing their rapport/relationship at all. They go from meeting each other to practically instant family members who act like they've known each other forever. It felt so jarring and unbelievable!
    I really wanted to like this adaptation too, but sadly, I can't pretend it's a well done series that captured the spirit and essence of the original. If anything, I would say that the showrunners missed by a mile and failed to understand what made the original animated Avatar so beloved.
    It's like they chose to prioritize surface level aesthetics, lore, and "grittiness"/action over character development. All of the major characters were either watered down or had core personality traits removed. Lol, they wanted to appeal to Game of Thrones fans without realizing that it's the complex and morally grey characters that's the heart and soul of that show.
    It's ironic that an animated series made for kids featured much deeper characters than this live action counterpart. All of the character flaws were either removed (Sokka's sexism is practically nonexistent, Katara's no longer fierce or headstrong, Aang's no longer goofy nor does he crush on Katara, and Zuko is too whiny and much less villainous) or heavily toned down.
    The creators are so determined to make the characters instantly likable that they watered down any of their supposed "problematic" traits. But forgot that in doing so (without adding new traits), you end up with much blander characters who are no longer as interesting as they could have been. This makes it even harder to build natural rapport or insert conflict between characters. Katara, esp., has zero personality and all of her scenes are excruciatingly boring to watch.
    By far, it's the characters and their relationships/growth that made the original ATLA so unforgettable and yet, the showrunners don't seem to understand this. If they did, they wouldn't have skimped on all the relationship building and character work. Everything's rushed to the point where none of the emotional beats feel earned and it's like the characters are just going through the motions because the director says so rather than experiencing it all organically.
    I really don't understand why the showrunners didn't prioritize their characters above all else and make sure they're all well developed enough for the audience to fall in love with them. After all, people will forgive anything as long as they care about your characters...
    And despite all the bad writing, I could've at least stayed engaged as long as our cast had amazing chemistry, but alas, it's just not there...I'm bored to death.
    Overall, the writing and acting just isn't good enough to hold my interest...One Piece Live Action is still the gold standard when it comes to anime/cartoon to live action adaptations -at least they concentrated on character writing and relationships above all else.

  • @etienne8110
    @etienne8110 Місяць тому +4

    My main grip is with the martial arts.
    They did cast people with martial backgrounds.
    Yet they didn t hire consultants on fights and choregraphies.
    So the fights are messy and edited poorly. And the bendings lost all meaning. It s just some kamehamehas at times 😅

  • @MistbornTaylor
    @MistbornTaylor Місяць тому +4

    Finally someone calls the show out for using Leaves from the Vine. The second Iroh actor, Greg Baldwin, refuses to sing that song out of respect for Mako and this show using it feels really tasteless.

    • @criles
      @criles  Місяць тому

      Yes! Thank you!

  • @hemmojito
    @hemmojito 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm especially disapointed about the "bending looking like magic" point.
    Especially Bryan has done so much to establish it wouldn't come across as magic. I don't have to explain to the fans. Comparing this to most of the firbending (except that from Zuko) being basically one hand motion breaks my heart (not really because I switched my brain off in the first couple of minutes) But for real, BRO, there are established moves for doing this. This is where you could have gone absolutely mad with detail instead of giving us the "cabbage man" or other minute insignificant details (appreciated) but THIS? *holding his hand in front of him like a claw* is just cringe and cheap and an insult to Xifu Kisu, their unceasing effort to perfect every motion, their effort to make it make sense and pleasing to the eye, their effort to reliably correlate certain movements to certain bending tricks (and you can see that throughout all of the shows. Just watch the "x number of waterbending tricks" videos) and they literally had the harder job: Taking these movements and making them look fluid in the animation with only so many fps. You have literal human beings here who could really immitate those motions and, done well, it would even look BETTER than animated.(talking about human movement, not the bending) and I'm not even talking about Azula's attrocious lightning bending, which has absolutely nothing to do with the iconic way og Azula did it and seriously looks at one point like she would certainly electrocute herself... sigh....

  • @mehmetcelik-td8bm
    @mehmetcelik-td8bm 3 місяці тому +4

    In the OG, one of the critics said why didnt Aang break himself out of the ice like a year or two years ago before the comet. But we see it that the thing Aang is in was buried under the ice and after he revealed KAtara had to break it by force using Sokka's weapon. Inside he coldnt do it but outside was easy. So in the netflix, we see that Katara trying to bring canoe back and she focus on that and the ice is breaking itself. So why doesnt it do it before than? Now we can ask that question. That change is due to Sokka's sexism omitted and for me it made it worse. Cuz now Aang should say to Kyoshi "I didnt run away u idiot. I just went for a casual flight into the storm and I was going to go back" LOl. Still funny saying this LOL.
    Another funny thing is Katara and Sokka left Appa in the ice, if Zuko went for the glowing light then he couldve captured Appa LOL.
    The worst change for me is Gyatso being in the spirit world. In the OG death was permenant and u couldnt do anything about it. Aang left his people and run away. That guilt was with him through out the series. When Aang trying to control avatar state, he had to confront that guilt. But here this is just small inconvience for him and Gyatso. Now Aang has to meditate 5-10 mins and enter the spirit world to talk to his best friend and mentor. It improve their relationship maybe cuz now he talk to him whenever he wants to. Even after his death, Aang will go to spirit world and be with Gyatso forever. I didnt even like it in the Korra. Cuz we know avatar is a special case and can be in the spirit world but for normal human it should be impossible, 0 chance for this to happen. If we make one human go there then almost everyone has a chance for it, WHY? In the Korra, spirit world portals open so Gyatso and Iroh can go to the normal world now? All the avatars in the spirit world so all the avatar now wondering the world? Yeah I hate Korra as well.
    I agree with all your points as well, good video.

  • @IsraelLlerena
    @IsraelLlerena Місяць тому +2

    7:13 exactly. You didn’t touch on this but kyoshi reading the future makes no sense. Why didn’t kyoshi tell ROKU the future when he was letting Sozin off the hook when he was the avatar! These changes add other plot holes that is hard for me to overlook. I’m so glad you call out how kyoshi is portrayed. Why would she tell aang to not run away “””again””” from his responsibilities when he never ran away to begin with! Also Kuruk appeared to Aang outside of a shrine so they broke their own made up new rules.

  • @promisegames
    @promisegames 3 місяці тому +33

    this video really hit all the points i was upset with as well while watching it. great watch

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you!!

  • @DrumMagiKKGaming
    @DrumMagiKKGaming 3 місяці тому +7

    Nail on the head! You make some great points and I agree with everything you said. I wish more people were this critical of the show instead of giving it a passing grade for some pretty lame reasons. I did a review video myself and struggled to say anything good because so much is wrong with this show.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +3

      I know! I just can’t understand fans who liked this show

  • @serenitymoon825
    @serenitymoon825 16 днів тому +1

    Gran Gran in the cartoon had more emotion when she said "call me Gran Gran" than the Netflix one did when she recited the intro

  • @other7128
    @other7128 3 місяці тому +17

    How did I only just find your channel? This is so good, your criticisms are well constructed, and I like your sarcastic humour too :) Subbed!

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +3

      Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed!!!

  • @Rini1909
    @Rini1909 3 місяці тому +8

    Great video. U r really capturing a lot of what everyone else is feeling about this adaptation. I also am re-watching the original to cleanse my palate 😂😂

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much, and yes same - very much needed 😅

  • @declanracic4468
    @declanracic4468 3 місяці тому +3

    They seem to really like kyoshi they should’ve just made a live action kyoshi show and just left this alone I don’t get why we have to do this for everything

  • @Lasanga95
    @Lasanga95 3 місяці тому +2

    20:07 The air nomads dont eat meat but dont they eat othee animal products? There was a scene where Aang wanted egg custard

  • @NerdyGamerReacts
    @NerdyGamerReacts 3 місяці тому +4

    Subbed, fantastic video, once the OG creators left the project, I was already worried about Azula, Ozai and now with season's 2 & 3 coming, Toph will be ruined...fun times. 💯😞

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 Місяць тому

      Maybe the badgermoles will make her an empath 😅

  • @areeba7045
    @areeba7045 3 місяці тому +3

    maybe it's just me but as someone who's been deep into atla lore and has been reading/watching analyis' on the story and characters for a few years now i don't think these critiques need to be spelled out to understand why the show is bad. i dropped it in the first 28 minutes after seeing just how many details of the show slipped the writers' minds and i already knew i would be watching something else entirely just because of how many important elements of the story had been omitted

  • @diy_cat9817
    @diy_cat9817 3 місяці тому +5

    15:49
    Lmfao LA Mush Mouth.
    The kid playing Aang isnt even from California lol

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +4

      Yes, I know, he is from Vancouver - which as someone who was an LA Resident and is in the Entertainment industry - Vancouver is Hollywood Part II lol.
      Plus "LA Mush Mouth" is just the type of speech, doesn't mean they have to be from LA, y'know?

  • @marissajaso2387
    @marissajaso2387 3 місяці тому +6

    Agree on everything. Not everything needs to be remade into live action. Also the acting and directing was just awful😭

  • @SkylarFoxNc
    @SkylarFoxNc 3 місяці тому +7

    See as a long time atla fan for years and know details about the original, I only could stomach 3 and 1/2 episodes and gave up on it. I was nit picking about it and it made no sense a lot of the stuff should of been in the second season and so on. I was so hyped for it just to be ruined like always

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому

      Yeah, good for you for dipping early, I immediately knew I needed to scream about it so tortured myself with the entire season. It’s so not worth watch, you’ll get so angry

    • @diy_cat9817
      @diy_cat9817 3 місяці тому +2

      Same. I only made it through 2 episodes and was like, if I watch anymore it'll just be me angrily sending detailed voice messages to my boyfriend about how much they got wrong and how much I hate it.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому

      HAHA I did that exactly, my bf didn't want to watch it so I did with my brother and his gf and we sent a billion voice messages to him haha

  • @MrScaryPasta
    @MrScaryPasta 3 місяці тому +2

    At least that god awful movie from years ago tried and failed. But Netflix just tried too hard and failed. Either way this series works better as animated. Nuff said.

  • @suedonym8467
    @suedonym8467 3 місяці тому +4

    I mostly agree! Kanna giving Katara the waterbending scroll didn't really bump me. The southern tribe had several other waterbenders in living memory; if anything, it's surprising that one scroll is all that remains. And "I was afraid you'd get murdered" is a pretty understandable reason for Kanna not to have given her the scroll a long time ago. Weird choice to hide it in Katara's bag rather than have a scene with the two of them, though.
    I agree that they're kinda speedrunning some of the Zuko/Iroh emotional beats for no good reason. That said, I think I do like "Leaves from the Vine" as a leitmotif for Zuko/Iroh scenes. For any viewers who haven't seen the original, if Iroh were to eventually sing it in a future episode, belatedly learning the lyrics and getting that additional context could be a real gut-punch.
    One thing I unreservedly like: the added details on airbender tattoos. It's a nice touch that doesn't interfere with the tattoos' at-a-glance look and feel.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +3

      Totally see what you’re saying.
      For me, I think for Gran Gran to have the scroll, it kinda defeats the purpose of the fire nation originally coming to the water tribe to look for “the water bender” resulting in Katara’s mother’s death. They would have been tearing up the place to find the scroll too had it been a longstanding heirloom - at least in my opinion.
      And I don’t mind “Leaves from the Vine” being a leitmotif either, we talked about that when watching it, but showing Lu Ten’s funeral this early, I think is too much. Having it just be a leitmotif would be fine, but the flashbacks I didn’t like.
      Thank you for your comment!

  • @jenniferhanses
    @jenniferhanses 3 місяці тому +1

    I agree with you that for all the acting to be as bad as it was, it really has to be a director problem.
    I think the main tone problem starts in the first episode. Remember the first episode of Avatar the cartoon, and how it starts with Sokka and Katara fishing and having a normal boring day, and then it transforms into extraordinary when they find Aang, evoking wonder and curiosity, and then Aang is playful, and they go penguin sledding?
    Okay, now the life action opens with some great martial arts and one of the better scenes, I think, where Sozin burns a man to death. And then after that we get the air temple, but it's also being serious because it's hard to juxtapose playfulness with a man burning alive. And then, though it is a bit lighter in tone initially, we SEE a genocide, the death of Iatsu, and know that all the children behind him were massacred immediately after that? And then we shift to Aang being found in the ice. And it's just a matter that if you were just watching a genocide, you're not really up for penguin sledding. The tone shift is simply too extreme. No one could write a scene after that that returned to the comedic tone unless they were doing for dark humor, which would be worse in this case as it's really not an Avatar kind of tone.
    Anyway, if we'd seen the genocide before Aang went penguin sledding in the cartoon, even though he knew nothing about it, it would feel wrong to watch him being joyful and enjoying being a kid. But at the same time, he can't really morn his people yet because it's not real for him.
    So essentially, though the opening scene with the spy was pretty good, they were never ever going to be able to upshift into that feeling of wonder and playfulness they needed to hit.
    This continues on Kiyoshi Island. In the cartoon, going there was a whim. Now it has a purpose and Aang is busy doing serioius business and not surfing on giant koi. They maybe could have rehabilitiated things by even going for the practical of Appa is getting tired and they need to stop somewhere for a little bit, and the island is the closest place to stop. And then slowly rising into a more playful tone from there. But they don't.Sokka's sexist attitudes and him being shown to be a bit of a jerk in this way, but then humbling himself would also have played well here in going from a somber tone to a more happy one. But they don't do that either.
    Basically, they don't know how to get the tone back up. As someone who does editing, this is a kill your darlings situation You need to not open on all those downers, even if I personally would really like to see Sozin being a bastard. The airbender temple stuff, they could have put in later through some version of flashbacks. Basically, they moved too fast in getting Aang to the temple. The whole of the first episode should have been Aang at the Southern Water Tribe village and ended when he and Sokka and Katara flew away. Do that whole little arc from episode 1 and 2 and STOP THERE. Use the Southern Air Temple as your dark episode,. Maybe put your Sozin attack in there, then flash to the future as Aang and his friends land. Then go through stuff through flashbacks then as they slowly explore the temple. Let Aang be in denial the way he is in the cartoon. He doesn't believe 100 years have passed, and now he doesn't understand.
    In regards to Iroh, I don't think putting more of his background into the show early on was a bad idea. I just think they focused on the wrong part. They should have focused on Iroh, Dragon of the West. People should be reacting to him either as a fearsome figure or as a great disappointment as the fat, tea-loving Iroh who is easily distracted by his pi sho tiles is not the towering figure they were envisioning. Have people talk about how he should have been Fire Lord, but didn't have the stomach for it, and let his brother push him aside. He was incredibly dangerous, but now he's a washed up has been. Mention the death of his son and how he had no heirs, perhaps, but don't focus on it. I think it was mentioned earlier on. I also think, in those first episodes, that Iroh kind of messed up/ slowed down Zuko so the Avatar could escape. So focus on that uncertainty.
    As for Azula, they did her so wrong. But ultimately, what's wrong with her is the same thing that's wrong with Sokka: They decided to give them extreme cases of anxiety to replace their previous personalities. Both of them were supposed to be extremely confident characters. But no more. We can't have confidence. Now Azula is a sniveling bootlicker. She used to be smarter than that. But then, the Firelord favored her over her brother who was always too soft. There's no competition between the siblings for Dad's affection. Azula already won that game.
    Also, Azula is horribly miscast. Far be it for me to complain about people being fat, but in terms of characterization, Azula has a very sharp face. Cheekbones you could slice paper on. The actress playing her has this fat moon face. I could get over it if she was giving off Azula level energy, but she's not. She just feels very weird.

  • @klemmichard8916
    @klemmichard8916 3 місяці тому +9

    Thanks for your video. It's probably the 20th I've been watching as like you said, we want more Avatar content and watching people explaining their point of view of what was ok and what was sh*t about the adaptation is kinda cathartic.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      I agree 100%

  • @deegloss
    @deegloss 2 місяці тому +1

    ...i was listening to this without paying attention to the screen and I didn't notice you switched out Iroh with actual NPCs untill I rewatched 💀

    • @criles
      @criles  2 місяці тому +1

      😂haha well I’m glad that my point definitely stuck haha

  • @supericy2
    @supericy2 3 місяці тому +9

    Great video and I agree with all the points. Solid work on the visuals/editing.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much!!

  • @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson
    @sir_christmas_leopold_duckson 3 місяці тому +4

    Honestly, it's as bad as I was expecting it to be. Not only do I just not have high hopes for anything anymore, thanks to everything being made to cater to a "modern audience", but as soon as I heard that Bryan Konietzko and Michael Dante DiMartino were stepping away because of "creative differences", I knew that meant Netflix was trashing the show.

  • @Schellnino1994
    @Schellnino1994 3 місяці тому +3

    4:05 YES YES YES!!! (also nice useage of Funny Games!)

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      Haha thank you!

  • @kimberlymelendez4451
    @kimberlymelendez4451 3 місяці тому +3

    This is the best review I’ve seen when it comes to this adaptation

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      thank you!!

  • @washnote1042
    @washnote1042 3 місяці тому +2

    I cant believe im so upset with this live action adaptation. I watched the entire season, but I felt like i was watching out of requirement because I loved the original so much. There are so many things i wanted to point out, but your video really does hit the nail on the majority of the head. I dont love too many shows, but Avatar holds a special place in my heart. I cant believe they did this shit.
    Also i believe the cg was sufficient, i think if they respected the essence properly then the cg department would've been capable of supporting it. Think back to the og, the animation wasnt always amazing, but everything fit well together, and it made it all acceptable. The animation wasnt the main point anyway, but it was sufficient for the story. This shit right here though, im truly disappointed. They got some things right, but they got the main main thing wrong. Why did they do this to this show like that?
    I like Katara, she seemed natural and ready for a story arc. I like Zhao, he was consistent and believable. Sokka looked like he didn't want to be there because he couldn't be himself and Aang looked like a completely developed grown up at the end of his Avatar journey. Zuko looked ready for a story arc and Iroh looked like a parody. The real Iroh is jolly first and serious second, this Iroh is serious first and jolly-handicap. It looked like they took all of the best of Avatar, made it pretty, and pinned it to a bulletin board. Thanks for this video.

  • @loonu1991
    @loonu1991 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for the video mate! Now I know people with good taste still exist in this cringe world of mainstream entertainment.

  • @cricketflightstar
    @cricketflightstar 2 місяці тому

    I think the references to the comics and novels are still good and it is a little unrealistic that no one talks about it in the original series

  • @callmethecommentcountess9329
    @callmethecommentcountess9329 Місяць тому +1

    I have to agree with you

  • @happywasabii
    @happywasabii 3 місяці тому +2

    100% right my guy

  • @Fire91ful
    @Fire91ful 3 місяці тому +2

    And no season 2 even in production

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +2

      GOOD! Haha

    • @Fire91ful
      @Fire91ful 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@criles
      Oh and small correction. Irons son is first mentioned in chapter 19, book 1. When Iroh tells zuko, he sees him as a son since he lost his.

  • @Schellnino1994
    @Schellnino1994 3 місяці тому +3

    GREAT VIDEO!! ill be watching more!

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      Ty!!

  • @JaredTVW
    @JaredTVW 3 місяці тому

    Most of your points hit their mark, and I agree that it overall, it’s not a good adaptation.
    I actually really liked the chemistry between the actors for Zuko and Iroh and while it was much earlier revealed about Lu Ten’s death and how he passed, I think it’s actually not offensive and a great scene.
    Iroh and Zuko’s story mirror each other so much and this is just a way we can see into Iroh’s life a little more while being able to contrast it to the scenes of Zuko later on in Masks.
    Animation is so much more expressive and feelings can be so much more easily felt with little effort, visually. Many scenes where Iroh doesn’t speak in the OG, can be immediately felt because of amazing animation. But in the acting world, you have to be natural, and that isn’t always easy portraying, cause it has to be natural.
    I think this scene felt quite real and the emotion felt genuine. And yes, they revealed it probably too soon, but it’s not offensive, it’s just not ideal. And honestly, I probably would have stopped watching if not for this scene.

  • @parmesanbeagle9827
    @parmesanbeagle9827 2 місяці тому +1

    Nicely said sir.

  • @BabyBounceProductions
    @BabyBounceProductions 3 місяці тому +2

    @7:16 exactly

  • @justinsharp2532
    @justinsharp2532 2 місяці тому

    I agree with you 😢 that ruined it

  • @mcfleury2253
    @mcfleury2253 3 місяці тому +2

    I’ve read sources online that have indicated that the creators of the show actually didn’t intend to stick to the source material either as much as Netflix has. One of their ideas was to cast Dante Basco as Zuko even though he’s much older now.
    Information on what exactly was their reasoning for their departure is elusive. The creators don’t explicitly state their reasons and nor does Netflix. So it’s difficult to say or know what is definitely true. But having read previous sources on their time on OG the last airbender, they seemed to have conflicting ideas with their writing team, even though it seems that the story of avatar the last air bender wouldn’t have been as good had it been for the writing team. The creators certainly didn’t have the writing chops.

    • @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr
      @FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, I’m with you. I haven’t trusted them since Korra. It seems they’ve been going away from the Avatar Aang story for a while now. Every single time there’s another Avatar project it’s never one about going back to the Avatar Aang idea. Instead, they always want to change or break the previous story. I’m also a fan who hated Korra because it breaks so many of the previous world building and lore rules that were already set up in the story. I hated it so much I couldn’t finish it. I really wanted to like Korra, but I just couldn’t.
      I wouldn’t be surprised if the source of some of the Avatar story breaking in Netflix was actually the parts the creators worked on. The episodes the creators supposedly worked on (Ep. 1,2, and 6) were some of the ones I had the most problems with.

  • @elizabeth714
    @elizabeth714 3 місяці тому +1

    Great analysis

  • @BugCatcher89
    @BugCatcher89 3 місяці тому +3

    Small improvement wouldve been to make momo and appa a mix of cgi and animatronics.
    Wouldnt fix the horrible writing and bad acting

  • @RosIebud82
    @RosIebud82 3 місяці тому

    I don’t understand how you think this is better then then live action movie. All your points show that this series is worse than the movie. The movie is 2.5ish hours and this is 8 episodes with a run time of almost the same length as the first season they butchered the first season worse than the movie did

  • @themedjay4559
    @themedjay4559 3 місяці тому +3

    You are one of the few youtubers express clearly its a bad adaptation, almost everyone else fell for the fan service like if it was a good change for the story, this has happen with netflix who always chose the worse options to run this proyects, and failed, im tired of adaptations and live actions.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +2

      Yes exactly!! Totally agree

  • @LynzuAnderson
    @LynzuAnderson 2 місяці тому

    It's... horrible.

  • @dawnhunter2558
    @dawnhunter2558 3 місяці тому +1

    GReat content

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому

      Thank you!

  • @Timmy-ou8lw
    @Timmy-ou8lw Місяць тому

    Promo'SM 😍

  • @Guizmow08
    @Guizmow08 3 місяці тому +1

    Just because it's not like the original 🙄🙄

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      Right, that's why... I can tell you watched my video

  • @king__iopa6841
    @king__iopa6841 3 місяці тому

    It is pretty bad. But oh well, it's gotta keep going. Maybe it gets better by the next seasons.

    • @criles
      @criles  3 місяці тому +1

      Maybe, I will say if the next seasons fix these issues it’ll still be a shame that the start of this show was bad

  • @MirHrv
    @MirHrv 3 місяці тому +1

    From what I’ve gathered from watching some interviews, this is not meant to be a 1-1 live action; It’s like some sort of video game remake. They pull some things from the source material but also want to bring their own take to it. Good analysis though.