Hitler and Göring's Reaction When Heinrici Told Them That The End Had Come
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- How did Hitler react when he was told that the Red Army would enter Berlin? What did Göring say when he saw that the Soviets were coming to his Carinhall mansion? What was the conversation that each of you had with General Heinrici like? What were the main reasons Heinrici gave you when he told you that it would be impossible to defend the Oder? Next in this program, we are going to discuss all of these details and many more.
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00:00 Heinrici takes over
00:38 Meeting with Hitler
02:13 1st Intervention Heinrici
04:03 2nd Intervention Heinrici
05:15 Hitler responds
05:50 3rd Intervention Heinrici
06:38 The Auction
07:25 4th Intervention Heinrici
08:00 Hitler's final words
09:00 Meeting with Göering
10:00 Heinrici vs Göring
11:35 Discussion between Heinrici and Göring
12:19 Göring complains about Heinrici's Army
13:17Response from Heinrici
14:15 The end of Carinhall and Göring - Розваги
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00:00 Heinrici takes over
00:38 Meeting with Hitler
02:13 1st Intervention Heinrici
04:03 2nd Intervention Heinrici
05:15 Hitler responds
05:50 3rd Intervention Heinrici
06:38 The Auction
07:25 4th Intervention Heinrici
08:00 Hitler's final words
09:00 Meeting with Göering
10:00 Heinrici vs Göring
11:35 Discussion between Heinrici and Göring
12:19 Göring complains about Heinrici's Army
13:17Response from Heinrici
14:15 The end of Carinhall and Göring
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What did I think of the program? Pretty sad, especially implying that Goering did not commit suicide. That was just the most egregious of many errors and slipshod dictation
Just like any other dumb dictator, Hitler surrounded himself with people who were influential and powerful but had no understanding of combat fields. We are witnessing the same with Putin. It is just a matter of time until most resources are wasted for all military become too vulnerable and reduced to an amount sufficient to protect borders. China will be watching to take a slice.
Narrator says "Donuts" for Gen Doenitz!!@
LMAO
It is pronounced Dur- nitz
Retarded AI
@@AMD7027is a fake re-write of history
Many errors
Heinrici was relieved of duty in April 45 for not following orders during the onslaught of Berlin and was ordered to go to Berlin immediately, alone and on his own accord. Just before he was going to drive there, Captain Hellmuth Lang interceded, took him to the side and told him not to go to Berlin but instead, make a run for it, to Plon and give himself up there to the British. Lang explained that what was waiting for Heinrici in Berlin was a kangaroo court, where he'd be tried, convicted and shot by a firing squad for dereliction of duty. Heinrici heeded Lang's advice, thanked Lang profusely and drove to Plon where he gave himself up to the British on 28 May. He was never charged with war crimes and was released in 48. It was noted, that in 1943, he wouldn't destroy the city of Smolensk as ordered. He died in 71.
On 28 April perhaps?
Interesting! Thanks!
At least he wasn't as pitiful as Göring and Hitler who ultimately committed suicide to escape justice.
It’s amazing that at this stage of the war, he was still so loyal and naive…and didn’t fully realize what a nut Hitler was…
That he had to be TOLD not to return to Berlin!
My neighbor Oscar was a guest of the Soviet Union untill 1956. He never expected to make it back to Germany. All the other soldiers he started with died most were starved or frozen or caught some sickness enemy fire was the least of their problems.
I am glad I missed it and was born in a free country.
Im 65 years old and it makes me sad when i think how many veterans were alive during my adult life and i never tried to talk to them. Both Germans and Americans.
I'm 60 and I did talk to a lot of them, but didn't write down anything. Had a retired neighbor who was on the Hornet when Doolittle took off on his famous Tokyo raid. He used to come over andcwatch Victory at Sea on PBS with my dad. I've actually met a few Holocaust survivors too.
I'm 50, my dad had me late in life, he was there on D day, he was in Patton's 3rd Army.
True but they would probably only be able to tell of their own little place in the war, not the big picture stuff. So do not feel too bad🙂
@antonmeyer7369 the "little piece of the war" they experienced is often very interesting....plenty of big picture books have already been published.
A teacher in Jr High tod me after 1943 they didn't take any German prosoners in his unit ( don't know which one ) . Told me that someone would tell them " Go over there " and someone would cut them down with a machine gun .
I love how narrator-bot keeps switching between Hine-ricky, Hain-riss-ay and Hin-rice-ee.
Goring did a coop de yay tat.
It's a German folk dance. @@marrrtin
My favorite is Admiral Donuts.
@@wrc1210 😆
@@marrrtin
"Gorring"!
Actually Heinrici’s form of defense wasn’t “rigid”. He had the sense to understand allowing the Russians to hit an empty bag initially, then reoccupy the line after they wasted their first bombardment.
Perfect post. 100% accurate.
Worked out well for him… .
Germans were masters at 'elastic defense' in therir retreat and bled the Russian army; however Russian army was too numerous.
Yes. Few other generals could use that technique even if they had tried--it required a nearly perfect understanding of Soviet capabilities and intentions. I first read about him as a kid in Ryan's superb book, 'The Last Battle,' about the Berlin cauldron which this video seems to be primarily based on. His diaries, when they became available about a decade back, revealed some clues to his analytical approach and more about his concerns. Himmler of course longed to kill him after Heinrici replaced him as commander in charge of Berlin's defense, and then after the Bunker meeting. Fortunately his staff was quite ready to defend him and he delayed reporting back. For some reason I think he became a life insurance executive in Karlsruhe for awhile after he retired. Can't confirm the insurance part but I was in Southern Germany in the 1980s and looked for him, as he was and remains a personal hero of mine, but found that he had passed away. Do you know of any other books about him?
You are mixing up rigid in physics with rigid in military defense
When the Gestopo came to arrest Henrici a number of his men stepped out of nowhere, gun drawn and told them where they could go and if they came back they would be the ones being killed. After Seelow Heights he was ordered to Berlin and his friend told him to don't rush, take your time ? So he lived "our poisoned dwarf"as he was known by his troops, who fought defence battles from Moscow to Berlin. A truly great German general and a truly great German.
Sorry to say, but there weren't as many great Germans of that generation as there were homicidal maniacs.
Gotthard Heinrici was a superb defensive tactician and realized the absolute folly of sending the last panzer reserves to Prague. However, even if he had had use of these reserves, it would only have delayed the inevitable Soviet breakthrough by possibly 10 days at most, Then too, with no panzers in Prague, the route of the Germans there would have been even more catastrophic than was the case, allowing Konev's Soviet armies ultimately to envelope Berlin from the south. The situation for the Germans was hopeless and Heinrici had the courage and wisdom to understand that.
Yes. Hitler couldn’t handle the truth!
Heinrici was a defeatist dwarf. There were so many clowns only a dwarf was missing. Even if the soldiers were unexperienced you never say that. Hilter posesesed the art of removing panzer divisions from they were most needed. With maybe a million troops scattered across Europe and a dwarf put to defend Berlin, what kind of strategy was that? Is hard to understand why the german army didn't perform better and got stronger as the front line got smaller to defend? Because they left army after army in certain points on their way back "for future offensive" until NONE was there to defend Berlin
@@JamesJames-jt3ts I never knew this. But I do know that an army that try to fight everywhere is going to be weak everywhere!
a million troops scattered around Europe? why???
Great comment 👏👏👏
@@JamesJames-jt3ts
Complete rubbish, the German army were systematically destroyed on their retreat from the USSR
Thank you For preserving our history and posting it much appreciated.
If you think this IS history you are gravely mistaken - revisionist history is being unveiled step by step -
There are errors in this video!!@
It's extremely important to preserve this history lest it be repeated.
Hitler looks like he's got PUBIC HAIR UNDER HIS NOSE. / 》Don't RIP NOT (][HITLER COST AMERICA 1,OOO,OOO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS.//》》pir not NOT! He deserved Death, he tooked the COWARDLY WAY OUT.
@@Steve-gx9otwould you point out exactly what and correct it?
The detailed relation of the interactions of the generals is greatly appreciated. I had never heard this in detail before.
Do not believe this fallacious video with errors in facts and timing
Another e r SAD Monday morning quarterback video😮😮😮😢
@@Steve-gx9ot hmmm. Why do you say that? Is there contradicting evidence or a lack of support for statements therein?
Why not tell us what you know? And also where the video is false.@@Steve-gx9ot
Heinrici said, after Goering gave him 22.000 Elite Soldiers, I can only speak of a true soldier, if he experienced 3 days of continued artillery barrages, and still is able to fight.
Heinrici's main concern was, inexperienced scared troops, retreating, would create more chaos...
They would do more harm than good...
Later Heinrici called Goering, saying, : Those Elite troops U send me, they all ran away..
They weren't elite soldiers. The whole ideology was a well contrived ruse.
Being ex military you can't expect someone not trained in infrantry tactics to succeed.from what I read they would give these converted airmen and seamen basic weapon training that's it.
I appreciate your in depth presentations. Thank you, and keep it up!
Gen. Heinrici had the last laugh as he lived to a ripe old age and Goering had the indignity of a cyanide capsule.
you mean "the cowardice of a cyanide capsule"
He did not died from suicide he was convicted of war crimes and executed
@@kevinprice4391 Yes Goring was convicted of war crimes and sentenced to hang. He even appealed that, hoping to be shot rather be humiliated by hanging as a criminal. He then took cyanide..... still was the cowardice of the cyanide capsule.
Goering was sentenced to be hanged but took a cyanide capsule the night before the hanging.
@@kevinprice4391no he committed suicide before he could be executed
Goring said, "When I saw the P51s over Berlin, I knew the war was over."
He never did say that.
@opoxious1592 Your right here's the exact quote "The day I saw Mustangs over Berlin, I knew the jig was up"
Look it up it was easy to find. The P51 mustangs.
@@patrickturner2788 Nope.
He admitted in his dairy that for the first time during the war, he had doubts if the war could still be won when he saw B-17's above Berlin for the first time.
That was a very difficult reality check for him as being a hardocore Nazi to have to admit this possible outcome.
This is what he said.
And again, he never said this to anyone else.
He wrote it in his dairy.
@@opoxious1592 ... I also heard he said that.
He was actually trans. Why not? Change the history books. Trans need some history. They got that Roman emperor and the T rex in Chicago so far.
An excellent narrative of the military conference described in the video can be found in the book " The Last Battle" by Cornelius Ryan. Ryan based his description on hours of interviews with Heinrici and his chief of operations Eisman, who were at the conference.
Thank you!
All of Ryan's big WWII books are well worth reading. Staggering number of eyewitness accounts he elicited and drew upon. Their value has only grown over time, as that generation passes away.
Thank you for mentioning that book. I'll get a copy. Ryan always does a good job.
You're welcome. As you know, Ryan wrote two other books, "The Longest Day" and "A Bridge Too Far", both of which have been made into movies. Try and find a hard cover version of "The Last Battle", as it contains numerous photos and maps. For a German viewpoint, I recommend Paul Carrell's two books on the German-Russian conflict.
'@@TheKulu42
Excellent narrative? Are you stupid or something? It’s a bot voice
That dude seems to be the only one not on drugs... lucky for us, the junkies made the calls!
To me what’s unbelievable is all the decent men pulled into a disaster by another man’s making/ that ambition/ greed/ foolishness/ depravity. Sad.
Yes, well take that as a lesson that it could happen anywhere, including here.
How have I never heard of Heinrici? I've been a WWII fan for 30 years
maybe your interes was on allies side only
because he was one of many
Because you are lost in US lies and propaganda and believed the world war 2 was only fought and won by America.
Now, you will. There is literature on him to a healty degree.
I missed him too or forgot over the years
imagine being 50 yrs old, done your bit and survived the First War and now you have to join the Volksturm and do it again?
What about if you were Jewish, and had served with bravery and honour for your Kaiser, only to be taken away at midnight in 1934 , to a Concentration Camp ?
@@noelsalisbury7448they sold Germany out
That would signal an impending end.
@@noelsalisbury7448Hitlers CO in WW1 was Jewish and he was never sent to a prison camp. Spreading atrocity porn is not history.
the Germans put the Nazis into power.... Hitler hardly made it a secret he wanted war.. "restoring Germany's imperial borders" would mean taking land back from their neighbours. that would mean war....
Heinrici was outnumbered by about 8 to 1 on the Seelow Heights
That's not fair.
The Soviets should have given him another chance.
@@AudieHolland...life is unfair...
@@daleburrell6273 Actually, life is 25% fair. The other 270 degrees is foul territory. 🙂
@@skysurfer5cva Shazam.
Well, in the video he already explained it to them.
He might be outnumbered, but that doesn't change the fact about delusional Hitler having a million men around Prag to defend it.
In the excellent book by Von Luck
“Panzer commander “
There is an account of him sending a senior NCO back to a repair station to get a vehicle serviced and to wait until it was done and to bring it back. While waiting he fell across one of these flying SS death squads and was killed as a deserter. VonLuck was outraged and complained to superiors but to no avail.
"flying SS death squads"? The "Heer" (Army had them too.) Every military has military police watching for deserters. They call them blocking troops.
Part of the reason the 6th Army was not ordered out of the Stalingrad encirclement was because Goering said he could supply 6th Army by air until they could be relieved. Using JU 52's and a few Condors would not be nearly enough capacity to supply 300,000 men on airfields in range of Soviet artillery. It was a wild boast that caused a massive failure, just as he failed to deter American daylight bombing. Heinrici correctly blamed Goering who should have paid the price for it at these failures at the time. Not that Hitler didn't make one or two missteps along the way as well.
The very biggest was his delusion that he could crush communism by defeating the USSR.
@@noelsalisbury7448 It would have been a big step. But as Joseph Goebbels said, "The difference between Communism and National Socialism is very slight." Replacing the USSR with the Greater Third Reich is no improvement.
@@thomashogan9196 but giving europe a political strenght and independence would have been nice and avoind most problems today we have.
@@xv12commander And you think National Socialism would have accomplished that? Oh my god.
Let's face it, Hitler was as supremely arrogant as he was amazingly ignorant. He got lucky with his initial actions but completely lost after that. Well, at least he shot himself.
Gorings Belly
was always
an hour ahead/earlier
on destination.
What a masterpiece of belly
@@donbrashsux it came from morphine basically.
@@jcmangan you can’t get a belly from morphine lol
@@RFdanielyes you can. Heard of "benzo belly"? Drugs can screw up your gut. The pregnant look isn't actually fat it's a distended abdomen.
Morphine constipates you
Apparently, AI voices have no understanding of what an umlaut is. Goring is what a bull's horns do, while the ö in Göring sounds like the first syllable in girl, curve, and fleur. Lately, I have gotten to really hate AI.
I gave up listening after five minutes. I find bot voices very grating, as the cadence and tone of a normal voice is quite lost.
AI will be better and better. Matter of not very long time.
Admiral Donuts had me dying.
@@piotrczubryt1111 not good for the lving!
LOL!@@wrc1210
Thank you for your careful coverage of this important aspect. I particularly enjoy your narration style as it is neither over dramatised or spoken in an intensely false alarmist type voice like another channel here on UA-cam.
AI voices are not yet capable of sounding alarmist or over dramatic.
it's not a real voice. You can tell by its mispronounciations.
That AI voice needs a human editor
Um. For sure this is a AI computer generated voice. I wish UA-cam would mandate that videos are clearly notated that they are computer generated. I would much rather have a human voice.
Hitler and his boy Goring,wouldn't listen to their premier defensive expert tactician,Generaloberst Heinrici,and,many lives among other things,were lost.
This is great work you did,Sergio.
They lost 2 years ago. But 1945 the poor General had too little to work with.
Mr. Madison,
The war was a major event and still impacts us but please sort out another issue i.e. your lack of space following a comma. 👍
Of course they didn't
Those 2 were ALWAYS Right!!SMH
thanks for this. great stuff.
Having read a bit on Hitler, my estimation is he was a madman, much in the same way some of our politicians today. Continuing to extol policies of failed outcomes is insanity, continued policies of self destruction to your own nation is treasonous. Either case those doing so ought be removed and relegated to history at best or charged with crimes
Do you see comparisons with Putin, or Stalin or - both ?
Hitler was the Mar-a-Lago mudpie golfing grifter insurrectionist of his day. Not quite as bad as the tangerine 🍊 Tyrant, but not a good guy. MAGA666
He was not mad at the end he lied ti himself it's what we all do faceing our deaths
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Hitler really didn't seem to start micromanaging until Unternehman: Fall Blau.
Great history! So many details and effort from your side. Thank you
Ty man
Great summary!! Please continue to make these videos
ty
Must say Anthony Beevors book "Berlin""the downfall gives astonishing detail to this phase of the war.
Excellent video, probable 10,000 been made, always nice to gather more information other may have missed, may I make a suggestion, when it's critical to follow such fast pace names, places, troops strength, interrivel discord, I really don't need to hear a freaking camera gearing of a photo, or map..
Thank you for this video. Very interesting. Subscribed.
Ty
Heinrici... a fluent Russian speaker also spend some time at Frunze war academy (moscow)
"The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot."
Proverbs 10 verse 7
Religious But, the name of Hitler doesn't seem to be going away too soon. Genghis Khan,Caesar, Napoleon? HUH. Dummy!
Outstanding analysis
I always thought Gen.Burkhaulter from Hogan's Heroes was a play on Goring. Accurate in many ways.
The funniest name since Colonel Hochstettler.
Sergeant Schultz could not go to the Ostfront because of his head, neck and back.
"A bullet in any one of those places could be fataaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!"
Remember when Colonel Klink found out that Schultz was rich and owned the biggest toy factory in Germany. He tried to butter up Schultz for a job after the war.
@@carbunkle9902so Shultz was the arch nemesis of the BURGURMEISTER
The actor that played Burkhaulter was actually jewish.
Gorings ego is more important than reality. The man who gave him that Reality check had to be attacked. That is what he did. If this was earlier in the war Goring might have put him in a concentration camp. He put many others there who offended him in one way or another.
Goring had no ego.He a\was an emotion-guided fool.
From what I've seen of WWII documentaries, Hitler was living in a fantasy land, moving almost non existant armies around Berlin. Except for Heinrici, most of Hitler's senior staff appeared too terrified of the consequences of telling him the truth. Any honourable leader would have immediatley surrendered to save unecessary loss of the lives of civilians and those of his undoubtably brave and loyal troops.
In the final days of the war, Heinrici was dismissed and recalled to Berlin from the front, but was warned by a colleague that he was to be executed, so he drove to the Western front at Plön and handed himself in to British forces. He spent time in a POW camp in Wales, then in 1947 was transferred to the USA to help American military historians learn about German military operational practises. He returned to Germany and upon his death in 1971, aged 85, he was buried with full military honours.
Narcissistic mindsets will not consider reason and always spell doom for others who support them.
Everything I've read and watched (documentaries) they were all delusional and from the beginning, none of the highest ranking had any right to be there and had little to know experience. This was a good thing because it helped end the war sooner.
They were lucky in the beginning, facing off ill equipped and prepared armies but as soon as the allies and russia had time to recover, and prepare, the end was pre-ordained.
It's the same as Japan's bombing of pearl harbour...all they did was wake a sleeping giant.
I read a brief story about a german veteran who travelled to the US after the war. When he saw the US's manufacturing might, he said we were fools.
Now? sorry to say, our manufacturing "might" is gone to the lowest bidder.
Shitler was a megalomaniac narcissist as well as an indefatigable Imbecile.
I agree, but ideology is a powerful master of values.
I read recently, that apparently some of the Germans who knew the D - Day landings had started, knew that the end was in sight.
Operation Bagration by Sowjets almost simultanously had much more impact on Wehrmacht.
It killed or captured more soldiers than they had in whole France.
The end Wes in sight b4 then , b4 39 , some knew , bit like climate change,,,, a lot of
Volkdeushe knew they were Trumped , eriod 😢
Very well presented and informative, with quite a few very historic photos I have never seen before!
Imagine what went on in Hitler's mind, after even he, at least to himself, admitted that the end was near. Having been SO successful , From obtaining the reins of Total power, over his beloved Germany. Doing exactly what he wanted. Then the early War years, fantastic successes, beating all his chosen enemies --almost. The huge crowds of adorring supporter's, jamming the roads whereever he went, standing in open topped motorcades, saluting the adoring crowds. Screams of 'Mein Fuethrer'. And NOW, Total destruction and within hours of suicide.
That’s why I think Epstein did kill himself. Seeing his perverse fantasy world ripped away from him, and his future is a cockroach filled jail cell, yeah, I would, too.
Sounds curiously naive and blind to the peril these German people. Couldn't they see, to open two fronts spell disaster? Doesn't take a brilliant mind to figure that one out.
😊he didn't suicide. He was in Argentina in town of Beriloche. You have doc on that. Stalin said...I know that bastard ascaped....😊
Lack of foresight/Wisdom. He destroyed Germany and brought about immense suffering to her people. But he was a puppet of the Dark Entities hiding behind him. They are masters of manipulation, through propaganda, control of the governments of Western countries, control of money supply, control of education, and everything else needed to enslave humanity. They are still running the affairs of Earth Humans today.
You’re actually empathizing with that a-hole?
Heinrici was known as 'Unser Giftzwerg' by his men. This means 'Our poison Dwarf'.
Rip to all the good men who fought and died. Imagine the world today if there had been peace.
My father fought in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. He said the man that cured cancer likely was murdered on some battlefield in some war.
@AceMoonshot: your father was likely right.
A sports reporter in Buffalo once asked Bills coach Marv Levy, “Coach, is this Sunday’s game ‘must win?” Levy: “Must Win? Gee, I don’t know. WWII was must win. This is a football game.” Love that guy.
Fine commander and honorable man, that Heinrici. He and Walter Wenck are worth learning about, if only for their conduct in one of the most horrific war fronts in all if human history
There are Righteous Among the Nations on that front, too.
Great vid thanks!!!!!
Ty
You cannot change what happened, its like a small town football team beating a team from the championship. You can discuss what should have happened etc as hindsight is a wonderful thing..The 400k troops in Norway were not removed due to the fear of a British invasion.
merely would have delayed the inevitable. the war was long long lost. Only chance of winning was set of circumstances like not being at war with US, and very early action of Barbarossa, strategic bombing, etc. its just too much to take on for germany. and certainly not all at once !!
Hitler threw away victory at Dunkirk as he let the British army escape.
He then lost the Battle of Britain by diverting Luftwaffe bombers from RAF airfields to bomb cities.
Invading the USSR sealed their fate.
there was also 300.000 troops in the coorland peninsula that were left to rot on the vine
@@sixgunsymphony7408I don't think it's that simple. Stalin decided to make a stand in Moscow and Moscow was definitely vulnerable with a 100% German effort to capture Moscow before winter. I guess you could still say German defeat was still inevitable because tens of millions of Russian partisans and ridiculously long supply lines into Central Asia would keep the Germans busy until they learned about the atomic age the hard way
They are the new about the atomic age that's why they attack Russia
I suppose ordering Steiner to attack towards Berlin, when his Army Group consisted of thirty blokes hiding behind a shed, was also a wee bit optimistic.
Excellent, very very well done!
Thank you
There's no "possibly" about it. Goring definitely committed suicide. He left a long note bragging about the fact that he had done it and how clever he was for getting away with it and preventing them from hanging him.
I thought he choked on a ham sandwich, like Mama Cass.
All Göring did was hasten his trip to judgement before God.
@@Maxfr8
Sorry, there's no God and no afterlife - it's all fiction.
Mama Cass had a heart attack. Just saying.
@@dancingnature I know. Just making a bad joke.
Heinrici was a devout Lutheran who wouldn't join the Party. Plus no one can agree how to pronounce his name, including German commentators. 😂
Christianity and Nazism are both expressions of the unfocused mind. Germany was the most Christian nation in europe.
Thank You. He was a Hitler victim also.
It is quite easy and there is no debate. About the pronouncation. The stress lies not on "Hein" but on "rici" like "ricky". Well, how devout a protestant was he supporting such heinous action ? It is an escape to be devout and then hide behind your uniform. Putting on an uniform might be the first moral transgression. If you get past this, anything may happen. We have to be clear about that. Rules of war - an absurd piece of legislation. Killing in style. The dead don't really care. The survivors need it more than the victims as the beast of war being unleashed, there is little than can be called cultivated.
What is the source of those conversations, especially the one Heinrici-Goering ? Did any of the 2 published memoires or kept journals where we can read what they discussed at that particular moment ? The video is very interesting but want to know if artistic license had been taken or we know for a fact that those conversations have taken place exactly as narrated.
Excellent program. Very interesting and informative.
garbage
AI still does not completely sound like a real human voice.
Great video. Thanks for the detailed view over thoae tense weeks.
Ty
I like the fact that we keep seeing Hannibal Lecter in German uniform. I had no idea Dr. Lecter held such an influence upon the German Army high command...
😂lol
Hannibal Lecter was actually in WW2 and killed some nazis himself and a very rude french civilian. I am serious by the way.
He also did well in Alaska , running away from a Giant Grizzly, with his adulterous "best friend" who was the 3rd party in his wife's relationship.
A seriously good movie -" The Edge "
He was also a British officer in a Bridge Too Far.
Fn outstanding work.
You close by saying that Goering ‘possibly’ committed suicide.
First time I heard that there was a question. Could you elaborate?
there was only ONE actor who played hitler the right way.. Bruno Ganz...
...agreed, though to be fair, if BG had been the first, the others might never have attempted it. Hannibal Hopkins had a decent crack at it!
AH = Anthony Hopkins
I think that's the best acting I've seen
No, he did not. Hitler never ranted. Read Rochus Misch's book. He was an SS NCO, telephonist and bodyguard. He spent every day with Hitler 1940-45.
I am 77, and my father was in Italy, Germany, Poland, France, England,the Netherlands and in North africa. He landed in Italy on Dec 10, 1943, the first d'day and ended up in England after 1945. He was a truck driver, and could not March because he had flat feet. Hence he drove a truck. On the day of June when they invaded France, he was still in Italy. My uncle landed on juno on June?, the second man out of the first boat. The fellow who was first out of the boat was a neighbour of my father and left 5 little girls behind, all under 8 years old. I met that last surviving girl at a get together of my family. She was a neighbour.
If what you say is true, the movies portraying Hitler as a mad child having temper tantrums are just inaccurate. The tone of their conversations seem reasonable under strenuous circumstances.
Laughing at the narration !
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-Really funny stuff ❗
This was really good - clear, detailed and well researched; thank you.
Just one small point: in common with many other uploads from the US, the string of American-English mispronunciations of European names is very grating and spoiled such a good video.
Ty
@@waracademy128 I suspect Ty is an automated response
It's just an AI voice.
Fascinating. A good insight on the psychology of power. Being covered with exceptionalism pixie dust you can only conclude that the Titanic went down due to the wrong placement of the deck chairs.
One can only speculate the outcome if General Gottfrid Henrici had been put in charge of the defence of Normandi instead of Rommel ?
That is a scary thought.
Rommel was Not in Charge for the Normandie, he Had No troops to command...in Charge was the OB West, Generalfeldmarschall von Rundstedt, and even he had to ask Hitler first to move Panzerdivisions...Rommel was the only one who wanted the Panzers in short distance to the beaches...von Rundstedt wanted the Panzerdivisions far away from the coast...and he got it so from Hitler...Rommel knew the Allied air force would n't make it possible to move the Panzers over great distances...and Rommel was right!
@@soerenschulz2452 Technically Rommel had command of the 7th and 15 th armies and the 2nd,21st and 116th panzer divisions. Whether or not he could do anything with them is debatable.
Would have mattered. Allied air superiority would have been decisive.
Regardless, the Allied advance was coming and it was inevitable once D day started. Hitler wasted too much of his troops and armament fighting Russia. Yes, as a megalomaniac he continued to make vast mistakes too.
As far as the attitudes of the inner circle, I believe that they were hoping against all hope that their secret weapons programs would come to fruition, ie atomic weapons, etc...
One small thing - Heinrici was not called back to action to command Army Group Vistula, but in summer 1944 he was given the command of the 1st Panzer Army in Hungary, a position he held until being transfered to the Army Group Vistula.
Goring and Hitler, both "CUT FROM THE SAME ROTTEN CLOTH"!!!! God ALWAYS GETS HIS MAN IN THE END!!!! Thank-You for this brief History of WWII!!!! BEAUTIFUL PHOTOS!!!!
So they tell us.
@@johndenugent4185 I know about Argentina if that's what you're talking about. But you HAVE TO ADMIT, they're BOTH DEAD NOW!!!! And I can GUARANTEE THEY AIN'T IN HEAVEN!!!!
Argentina is not Antarctica.@@libertygiveme1987
Kissinger lived to 100
Typical politicians who themselves would never fight, offering up men to be slaughtered.
Sorry top tell you this but Hitler was an Austrian corporal who was wounded in WW1. Goring was a WW1 fighter pilot who also was wounded hence his addiction to morphine. These facts however do not excuse their criminal behavior or CRIMINAL STUPIDITY.
@@danielbackley9301Goering’s addiction to morphine was due to a car accident. Had nothing to do with WWI
Typical Fascists.
People in power everywhere, regardless of their beliefs, allegiances or political theories, sacrifice others in quest of their own benefit.
Himmler was up to some time waisting appointments , wasn't he playing cards or something instead checking on an army ?
"Heinrici considered these meetings a waste of time..."
"This meeting could've been an email" before our time.
The Rowan Atkinson look alike standing next to Himler at 6:47 was eerie.
how on earth did they ever think they could win against russia, us, france and britain and its allies.
Those Nazi generals were like a flock of chicken in front of a WW1 corporal.
Is that why it took 4 empires 6 years to defeat Germany a nation of 80 million people?
Brilliant video, AI commentary is disappointing though, wish we could have real people talking on videos of such profundity.
Donuts!..........Thats AI for ya Folks! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One man's name pronounced 3 different ways by the same 'speaker'. The joys of AI speech.
Goering's Karinhall famously had a huge art collection. Was that removed before it was blown up, or part of the destruction?
It was loaded in 17 train wagons and send to Berchtesgaden
Gracias Hermano
Incredibly Heinrici could have saved AH☠️ WAY back in December 1941 after the collapse of 'Barbarossa'. Had he been "reasonable'(😮💨) the Wehrmacht would have gone over to the strategic DEFENSIVE in 1942 and fought on for a separate armistice with Stalin..
The map at 1:08 is overly simplistic and gives an inaccurate impression that the Western Front only comprised two US armies with the 1st US army crossing the Rhine to the north of the Ruhr. The 1st US Army’s advanced across the Rhine to the south of the Ruhr. The allied advance across the Rhine to the north was undertaken by the 9th US Army, 1st Canadian Army and 2nd British Army under the 21st Army Group and the 1st Allied Airborne Army.
Hitler wasn't just living in a fantasy world he also didn't want to be told things he didn't want to hear.
They were afraid to tell him any negative news. I think he respected Heinrici for giving it to him raw.
So, like, he was living in a fantasy land, right?
@@busterbiloxi3833yes bit like Don trump ,😅
That’s what happens with dictators. I have seen it throughout history. Dictators become encircled by “yes-men” and because no one can speak truth to them, they ultimately make terrible decisions often resulting in their downfall.
@@learningisfun2108 I wonder if they have tinkered with him like in the movie "Future World" (1975) with Peter Fonda, Blythe Danner and Url Brenner. Highly recommend it! Foreshadows what is happening today and likely the past as well.
great video. very interesting!
Ty
After one generation has passed, all the teachings of this madness have been forgotten again.
I recall some of details of the meeting from The Last Battle by Cornelius Ryan. Just Heinrici saying he needed more guns, being assured 'You will have those guns.' And thinking something along the lines of 'Yeah, right... I'll believe it when I see it.'
The British and commonwealth armies aren't shown on your map. Had they gone home by this point?
Yet Goering never picked up a rifle himself, coward.
...Goering was a pilot during WW1...
He was anthing but a coward in WW1 ?
What are the schools teaching these morons? @@daleburrell6273
i fail to understand why these fools were arguing over petty issues,
while the entire world was collapsing around them.
nothing better to do I guess
They had an audience of one. And that one had lost touch with reality. So they were telling him what he wanted to hear, to some extent, at least sugar-coating it. This is the only way people survive close to tyrants.
I`m from Poland and our politics are behaving very similiar
There'll be books about Putin in due course, and his failure to grasp the reality of his mistakes.
What's going on with the sound? Is this overdubbed with a robot voice to avoid copyright detection?
Why Hitler kept the panzers near the Prague? This was not explained.
Hitler thought himself a military genius and would often override the advice of his generals who knew better. He thought the main Russian attack would occur in Prague so he sent the panzers there and refused to have them sent back to defend Berlin. The English had considered assassinating Hitler during the war but determined that it was better that he remain in charge and continue making blunders.
@@edwardsharpe6234 sounds like propaganda cope that they could have assassinated him. sure, he was a detriment, but at least germany was held together as one under him. if he was assassinated everything would have fallen apart with power figures all fighting eachother for power. there is no way himmler would have accepted anybody else in charge besides himself.
He also refused to move a battalion (?) of Panzers at the beginning of D-Day, which was tremendously beneficial to the allies. As Edward stated, he thought he knew more than the generals. (Remind you of anyone?)
They tried to breakout and get to Berlin but Soviets did not let them
This needs no explanation. He was considered a supreme military genius.
I wonder what they had for lunch at Carinhall. Goring likely had 3 or 4 helpings.
Goring had crow.
What sources did this video drawn upon the support the narrative presented in it?
Good video. Much of the information in this video is taken from the book, " The Last Battle." A great book to read. About the battle for Berlin.
Donuts? Admiral Donuts?
At this time, with the Russians on the oder,
Less than 30 miles from Berlin,
In Norway, of no use to anyone, we're 400,000
Yes, 400,000 German soldiers.
Among them many divisions of battle hardened soldiers, mountain divisions,
Well armed, and supplied, the Sat doing nothing until they surrendered in 1945.
Had Hitler, a month previously, directed doenitz to arrange the evacuation of Norway, the majority of those, totalling some 35 divisions, could have been used in conjunction with the panzer army to the north of Berlin, to throw back rokassovskys offensive.
In addition, in courland ,
The Germans in a pocket surrounded by Russians, had a further 275,000 men, 100,000 of whom could have extracted by sea
And placed under the command of ninth army.
Steiners force, could have then been reinforced by the troops
Himmler, goering, and doenitz pledged in the heinrici meeting.
Total German forces defending the oder, seelow, and Berlin, would have outnumbered the Russians 2 to 1.
How different things might have been then.
Esas fuerzas de Noruega e Italia se salvaron para reconstruir Alemania, asi lo dispuso el gobierno aleman
They could have evacuated all of those forces and it still wouldn’t have stopped the Russian advance. It might have delayed the fall of Berlin by a few weeks but the Russians had 500 rifle divisions ready to deploy for the final attack on Berlin, along with more than 10,000 tanks and 6,000 aircraft. They were beyond doomed well before this time. Any thoughts to the contrary are nothing but deluded wheraboo fantasies.
It would have made no difference. Hundreds of thousands of troops had been thrown away by that time. The war was decided according to Speer when Barbarossa failed, in November 1941.
From what I remember, Germany still had 2 million + men when they surrendered.
Definitely made no difference at all lol Germany had little to no oil or oil fields at this point. No oil means no tanks and more importantly no planes.
Clips from movies should be marked as such for those watching.
Interesting
I don't believe admiral Doenitz and Goering misunderstood the situation they may not be army infantry but they're military officers just the same. Sending sailors and airmen to fight as infantry was still the best option than having Forces made up of civilians. Military men regardless of branch are well versed on unit cohesion. They don't have any other choice as the saying goes beggars can't be choosers.
They had the choice to surrender. They feared trials and execution, so tried to wring a few more weeks of high living in their castles out of their existence before having to face reality, letting the rank and file die in their tens of thousands more for it.
Surrender was not an option obviously. @@rikk319
Nice video with a nice narrative voice
Ty
so now we use AI voices to dictate history
I think this is a real human commentary, not AI.
It's so annoying
@@mikethespike7579 It is *obviously* AI.
The creator is Romanian I think (judging from the spelling of names on the maps) and he feels his English is not good enough to narrate it himself.
Drachinifel did the same when he first started posting videos years ago.
@@mikethespike7579 I doubt it. The last i in Heinrici should not pronounced yet the bot does it through the entire video. It sounds stupid, Heinricky.
What got my attention was at the very end when he said that Goering had ( possibly ) committed suicide. What did that mean ?
It's near gibberish, but I think it might be a mistranslation of a German tense or mood. Something like the subjunctive.