I needed this. It's so frustrating to buy all the things, have all the hope, and see it fail. LOL So, now I'll be spending the time searching how to avoid mistakes. Thank you for showing this! Great info!
Glad it helped you. As my beginning students start screen printing again for the first time, I am reminded of how difficult it can be for them. Simple things like the angle of the print and flood stroke, the amount of pressure applied when printing and the viscosity of the ink among others can make a big difference in your results. Only experience printing lots of stencils can teach you what should feel right. I tell my kids I will make it look very easy but it won't be for them.
Thank you so much. Like others here, I have searched everywhere for an answer to this. My first effort was perfect (beginners luck) and then failure after failure. I didn't know what I was doing wrong and had no idea how to fix it, or what to do while it was happening. Thanks for showing that clean-up step, as well. It will save me from tearing everything down and starting over. Keep making videos, please. 😃
PS - I have my own channel (bookmaking and box making) and I've always been curious about why people leave me comments. I never leave comments. But now I have, and I finally get it - when someone helps you with something you've been struggling with again and again, it requires thanks! 😘
@@KristiWarrenHandmadeBooks Thanks so much for your kind words and I'm glad this helped you too. I also never leave comments but do SO appreciate all the people that generously put up videos and pdfs that help people. Making and posting videos was always a thought but it was WAY down on my to-do list; I probably never would have done so without the need to do so for my students during pandemic teaching. I'm always surprised by how many other people outside of my classes that I am helping.
You'd be surprised how many videos and blogs I've searched just trying to find out the answer to these questions- why am I getting bleeds and can I fix my screen or do I have to wash the whole screen out and start over. Thank you!!! Great video
Thank you very much... I have always washed the screens whenever there is a bleed.. I just thought it will smudge if I dont wash it thoroughly. I appreciate this. I have also ran into screen bleeding when I sometimes use regular paint for making signs .. thin paint did that a few times or when the off contact is too distant.
Happy you could benefit from my pandemic videos for my students; the videos have been one of those things I always meant to do and never got around to it. It's pretty gratifying that others are benefitting from these too. I appreciate all the positive comments.
Yes. If the ink is too runny it will bleed more easily. A stencil with small details that keep filling in (bleeding) or an ink that is not the right consistency (too loose) may mean that I skip the flood stroke and just use a print stroke to solve the issue when I am in the middle of printing. It is rare but I have had to use this method before. I ave even ad to wipe the screen underneath after every pull if the run is short and I can't alter the ink. Adding a bit of extender base to Speedball ink can thicken the ink without making it too transparent.
Thank you for this video! I noticed it’s water based ink- if I’m using plastisol would it be a good idea to wipe the backside of the screen with a plastisol remover solution instead of water?
I have little experience with plastisol inks using it only a few times in the past. My inclination would be to use the same technique first by dry wiping the stencil. Wiping with the remover may wet or lubricate the stencil and perhaps cause another bleed by pulling more ink under the screen in the next pull. When we dry wipe it with water-based ink, we are removing ink from the underside that would tend to pull more ink under the stencil as well as remove the ink that could make a stain on the paper where the bleed was. Many years ago I learned on oil based ink and had to do things a bit differently when I transitioned to water-based. Rarely will I need to wipe with a damp sponge and generally for a problem with the ink (dry bits in the ink that get stuck in the fabric mesh primarily). After a damp wipe, I will do a dry wipe afterward to remove the moisture in the mesh that will make a mark during the next pull. In your case, If you would need to use the remover to wipe the screen, then I would follow with a dry wipe too. Having said all this, I could be wrong as plastisol may act differently. Experiment and see what happens.
This is true and it will help reduce or stop bleeds but it also means there are other issues to consider. The higher mesh count will reduce the amount of ink going down on the substrate, which means a thiner layer of ink and a potentially lighter color overall. This change in your ink color will be more noticeable with more transparent colors. The bigger issue is that cleaning out the ink and more importantly, cleaning out the stencil can be more difficult. You have to be very thorough about using emulsion remover and not let the emulsion set in the screen for a long time. I clean it out right after I am done printing with a higher mesh (our mesh is typically 195 lpi.) Even jumping up to 255 lpi you will see a difference. It does mean greater possible detail (smaller size printable mark) - water based Ink can also dry in those smaller areas more quickly, blocking out those marks so they no longer print (if you don't notice it or correct it). All in all, for most students, going up in mesh counts is more problems than it is worth.
This is water-based ink. I would imagine this same method works for plastisol, solvent based ink though. I first learned on oil based ink where bleed could be solved with a newsprint wipe before reapplying a flood stroke.
I recorded this with half of my class in the room watching the demo while one of them filmed it for me. Not that it's really of any consequence or importance to the content of the video. You only see what the camera sees, which is never the whole story...
Well, if you had actually paid attention as you watched you'd notice that someone is recording him (and they respond to him) and then someone else walks by, so... no, he is not the only one there. Maybe you're watching the wrong kind of video if this was your take-away. 😬😃
I needed this. It's so frustrating to buy all the things, have all the hope, and see it fail. LOL So, now I'll be spending the time searching how to avoid mistakes. Thank you for showing this! Great info!
Glad it helped you. As my beginning students start screen printing again for the first time, I am reminded of how difficult it can be for them. Simple things like the angle of the print and flood stroke, the amount of pressure applied when printing and the viscosity of the ink among others can make a big difference in your results. Only experience printing lots of stencils can teach you what should feel right. I tell my kids I will make it look very easy but it won't be for them.
Thank you so much. Like others here, I have searched everywhere for an answer to this. My first effort was perfect (beginners luck) and then failure after failure. I didn't know what I was doing wrong and had no idea how to fix it, or what to do while it was happening. Thanks for showing that clean-up step, as well. It will save me from tearing everything down and starting over. Keep making videos, please. 😃
PS - I have my own channel (bookmaking and box making) and I've always been curious about why people leave me comments. I never leave comments. But now I have, and I finally get it - when someone helps you with something you've been struggling with again and again, it requires thanks! 😘
@@KristiWarrenHandmadeBooks Thanks so much for your kind words and I'm glad this helped you too. I also never leave comments but do SO appreciate all the people that generously put up videos and pdfs that help people. Making and posting videos was always a thought but it was WAY down on my to-do list; I probably never would have done so without the need to do so for my students during pandemic teaching. I'm always surprised by how many other people outside of my classes that I am helping.
You'd be surprised how many videos and blogs I've searched just trying to find out the answer to these questions- why am I getting bleeds and can I fix my screen or do I have to wash the whole screen out and start over. Thank you!!! Great video
Glad you found this and it helped you. This is perhaps the number one problem my students have when they are learning to screen print.
Thank you very much... I have always washed the screens whenever there is a bleed.. I just thought it will smudge if I dont wash it thoroughly.
I appreciate this.
I have also ran into screen bleeding when I sometimes use regular paint for making signs .. thin paint did that a few times or when the off contact is too distant.
Thank you so much for posting this! I looked everywhere for an answer to this issue and I couldn’t find one. This video seriously helped me out!
Nice! Haven't applied what you said just yet, but you addressed my issues. Thanks for the vid :)
thank you so much,these days i start my first work and i had these problem all the time.Thank you so much
Like Stephanie said... this is exactly what I was looking for. Great video.
Glad it was helpful!
That's very helpful mate! Your videos are great! Thank you for sharing your techniques! Cheers!
Happy you could benefit from my pandemic videos for my students; the videos have been one of those things I always meant to do and never got around to it. It's pretty gratifying that others are benefitting from these too. I appreciate all the positive comments.
Is it possible to get ink bleed if the ink is too thin? Let me know.
Thank you for the explanation on this video very helpful!
Yes. If the ink is too runny it will bleed more easily. A stencil with small details that keep filling in (bleeding) or an ink that is not the right consistency (too loose) may mean that I skip the flood stroke and just use a print stroke to solve the issue when I am in the middle of printing. It is rare but I have had to use this method before. I ave even ad to wipe the screen underneath after every pull if the run is short and I can't alter the ink.
Adding a bit of extender base to Speedball ink can thicken the ink without making it too transparent.
thanks so much for this
Thank you for this video! I noticed it’s water based ink- if I’m using plastisol would it be a good idea to wipe the backside of the screen with a plastisol remover solution instead of water?
I have little experience with plastisol inks using it only a few times in the past. My inclination would be to use the same technique first by dry wiping the stencil. Wiping with the remover may wet or lubricate the stencil and perhaps cause another bleed by pulling more ink under the screen in the next pull. When we dry wipe it with water-based ink, we are removing ink from the underside that would tend to pull more ink under the stencil as well as remove the ink that could make a stain on the paper where the bleed was. Many years ago I learned on oil based ink and had to do things a bit differently when I transitioned to water-based.
Rarely will I need to wipe with a damp sponge and generally for a problem with the ink (dry bits in the ink that get stuck in the fabric mesh primarily). After a damp wipe, I will do a dry wipe afterward to remove the moisture in the mesh that will make a mark during the next pull. In your case, If you would need to use the remover to wipe the screen, then I would follow with a dry wipe too. Having said all this, I could be wrong as plastisol may act differently. Experiment and see what happens.
Thanks soooo much. Exactly what I needed
thank you very helpful !!
You can also use a higher screen mesh.
This is true and it will help reduce or stop bleeds but it also means there are other issues to consider. The higher mesh count will reduce the amount of ink going down on the substrate, which means a thiner layer of ink and a potentially lighter color overall. This change in your ink color will be more noticeable with more transparent colors. The bigger issue is that cleaning out the ink and more importantly, cleaning out the stencil can be more difficult. You have to be very thorough about using emulsion remover and not let the emulsion set in the screen for a long time. I clean it out right after I am done printing with a higher mesh (our mesh is typically 195 lpi.) Even jumping up to 255 lpi you will see a difference. It does mean greater possible detail (smaller size printable mark) - water based Ink can also dry in those smaller areas more quickly, blocking out those marks so they no longer print (if you don't notice it or correct it). All in all, for most students, going up in mesh counts is more problems than it is worth.
Thanks, I needed to know what I did wrong
good content.
Thank you!
Wouldn't this be due to the off contact being too close?
Are you using a water-based ink or plastisol?
This is water-based ink. I would imagine this same method works for plastisol, solvent based ink though. I first learned on oil based ink where bleed could be solved with a newsprint wipe before reapplying a flood stroke.
Thankyou
Just tried printing for the first time and I put too much ink 😂
so why does he have a mask on he is the only one there
I recorded this with half of my class in the room watching the demo while one of them filmed it for me. Not that it's really of any consequence or importance to the content of the video. You only see what the camera sees, which is never the whole story...
Well, if you had actually paid attention as you watched you'd notice that someone is recording him (and they respond to him) and then someone else walks by, so... no, he is not the only one there. Maybe you're watching the wrong kind of video if this was your take-away. 😬😃
waw,,,www
cannot hear you aha🤣
thanks