Band of Brothers Part 2 Day of Days (Reaction)
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Spiers, the lieutenant from Dog Company who shot the prisoners was the guy who ran on top of the trench. When a German grenade was thrown at him he kicked it away. You'll see more of Spiers later on.
When you get to the end of the series, be sure to watch the We Stand Alone Together documentary, which expands on the interviews with the real men of Easy Company.
Vey much this.
Also, as far as Speirs deliberately exiting a trench, that did not happen. The trench ended and he and his guys were exposed to fire until they got to the 4th gun. He got there first and shot a few guys before he entered the gun dugout, and one of the exiting Germans had left a grenade for him in it. We don’t really see this in the series, but he noticed the grenade and kicked it as it was detonating. The blast threw him backwards into the wall and dazed him. When he regained his senses, his boot was smouldering and he had to stomp it out.
You will see Penkala talk about this in the next episode, where he says he heard that Speirs took the gun basically single-handedly, “dodging MG fire like a maniac”, which Malarkey (no great fan of Speirs) confirms.
Actually,some americans with german origin moved to Germany like the captured soldier said.After the first world war germans in the United States faced dicrimination because of their heritage,for example they were being forced to rebrand german products with american ones and had to change their own names as well.
My German-American family (mother's side) remembered, WWII didn't help either. But my mother's ennui was toward the Japanese.
Exactly the term "pennsylvania dutch", was becaue a lot of Germans, faced discrimination, so with German Origin, or just german sounding names, told everyone they were Dutch, because for those not familar with Dutch or German, they sound similar, both names and the language.
The original Das Boot mini-series was of the same high quality as Band of Brothers. So worth a watch - I prefer a really stormy winters day, I'm in Scotland so can stuck my head out of the window & feel a bit North Atlanticy to really get into it. 😁
Buck Compton lost his gun during the jump and picked up another Thompson somewhere, but never test fired it to make sure it was in working order. As it happens, the firing pin was broken, which is why he spends the major part of the assault on Brecourt messing with it, trying to figure out what's wrong with it.
My uncle was a C-47 pilot on D-Day. He said the windows were painted over and the doors were closed if the troopers wanted to smoke. If the door was off they weren't allowed to smoke, because they would be spotted miles away. Troopers were also under orders not to take prisoners because they had No place to keep them and no one to watch them. Malarkey and the German actually worked across the street from each other.
Well, this is when the sh*t gets real. "We're not lost Private...we're in Normandy." This one line displays Winter's ability to instill confidence in his men, even unarmed in the face of all adversity. And this soldier wasn't even a member of Easy Company. Currahee ♠
The leg back was a big issue. One of those being interviewed at the beginning mentioned it. It was a newly added feature which allowed the paratroopers to carry more equipment. It was a bag attached to their leg and would drop to the ground ahead of the soldier. Trouble was, they didn't consider the prop blast that led many soldiers to losing their equipment.
They were paratroopers behind enemy lines. They had nowhere and more importantly anyone to guard prisoners.
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops," Eisenhower wrote. "My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower Supreme Allied Commander. This was his other speech. D-Day was never a guarantee..
An absolute masterpiece of a TV series
The show is absolutely amazing as it is but the interviews with the real men is one of my favorite parts
They just TOLD you that 90% were unaccounted. They had important objectives to complete to help the invasion from the sea. They lacked man power or logistics to take prisoners. They were told, basically, your mission outweighs taking prisoners, until the sea invasion links up to you. At this time they are behind enemy lines and scattered all over.
At 3:36-3:38 you see a paratrooper holding a small metal box with two spring steel straps. These were crickets. They made the sound similar to a cricket. This way every paratrooper could use it to identify themselves. They would click a few times and others would respond back. It was a big part of how they quietly found each other. I learned and this because my grandfather was a pathfinder in WW2 the pathfinder were there before the invasion.
During the invasion they were under orders to not take prisoners. Until the invasion was secured. They simply did not have enough man power or location to hold enemy prisoners.
The prisoner who talked with Malarkey actually worked across the street from Malarkey's job.
Buck, the guy who's gun jammed on him was because he actually looted the gun off a body before this mission and didn't know it was damaged because he didn't have time to test it.
The phrase "Calm before the storm" was originally coined by sailors. But its perfect for describing soldiers who knows they are heading into combat. I can't even begin to imagine what it feels like.
The intense anti-aircraft fire over Normandy was partly responsible for the paratroopers landing in many cases outside their designated drop zones. Because the pilots' survival instinct kicked in, they altered course, speed, and/or height to avoid the death coming at them from below. Despite the chaos of the landings, leaders like Lt. Winters gathered ad hoc squads and accomplished their missions. The reality of combat helps us understand better the "revolt" of the Easy Company NCOs against Captain Sobel.
The whole revolt in the end was pretty meaningless, Sobel would have been in Meehan's stick that went down. Hard to say if Winters would still have been suspended due to the court martial though
Lost count how many times I have watched this. With my dad, with my son, the beloved and I cried each time.
Have a look at the World at War, it's narrated by Lord Olivier and it was made in the 70's but it's still amazing. I remember watching one about entering Belson and my gramps said quietly that it was worse than that. Found out when he died he'd gone from India to Egypt, then Italy and finally through to Germany. He said no more.
Other gramps had holes in his back that he said were from pebbles on the beach at Leysdown. Again when he died found out it was shrapnel from the Landings. He had a few pieces in a jar. 😂
I was and am in awe of that generation. My nan was my hero for travelling here with a toddler, my mum, in 1942, by ship, from India and meeting gramps family who didn't know she was Indian.
Needless to say British Paratroopers dropped in that same night slightly ahead of the Americans to capture a vital objective that was part of the plan to capture Caen a bridge that would become known as Pegasus Bridge
On 6 June 1944, during the bridge was, along with the nearby Ranville Bridge over the Orne River (another road crossing, later renamed Horsa Bridge), the objective of members of D Company, 2nd (Airborne) Battalion, Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry, a glider-borne force who were part of the 6th Airlanding Brigade of the 6th Airborne Division during Operation Tonga in the opening minutes of the Allied invasion of Normandy. Under the command of Major John Howard, D Company was to land close by the bridges in six Airspeed Horsa gliders and, in a coup-de-main operation, take both intact and hold them until relieved by the main British invasion forces. The successful capture of the bridges played an important role in limiting the effectiveness of a German counter-attack in the aftermath of the Normandy invasion.
Later in 1944, the Bénouville Bridge was renamed Pegasus Bridge in honour of the operation. The name is derived from the shoulder emblem worn by British airborne forces of I Airborne Corps (United Kingdom), which depicts Bellerophon riding the flying horse Pegasus.
I love Band of Brothers. Really good representation that went on in that time. The thing it didn't show was that everything didn't go to plan. Not everyone landed where they were supposed to. Despite this, those men gave us the freedoms we have today. Reverence to our fallen.x
In an interview Buck Compton said why his gun didn't work was he lost his weapon on the jump. he picked up another from a wounded British officer, but never had a chance to test it. It had a broken firing pin. Winter's was extremely moved by Popeye, who was wounded (in the ass) but apologized for getting wounded. Winters said can you imagine a man being wounded and he wasn't concerned about himself but how his being wounded effected the others. The reason the one soldier was a bad marksman, was that he was the Colonels jeep driver, who asked to join the attack.
We (E/506th Reenacted) gave him that Guidion (sm flag on the wall) back in 2000, 5:50 mark - So the location of LT. Meehan's plane hits there is now a marker there with all the names of those who died in that crash. Many troopers lost gear & weapons during the jump, BUT being the Army you signed for it you lose it your in trouble LOL. the crickets were used by a few units mostly the 101st Flash & Thunder was used for all units.
8:20 mark Officers were issued Escape kits Winters had a compass sewn into his fly that's what he pulled out to use with the map.
9:23 mark yeah Guarnere earned the nickname "Wild Bill" in Normandy as he killed every German soldier he came across as he was out for revenge for his Brother Henry who was killed fighting in Italy. so the show gets this wrong as Bill also didn't have a weapon during the ambush portrayed, and it was a T intersection and there were 2 more ambushes that night. BUT after the 1st ambush he got 2 P-38 pistols off the dead Germans which he used in another ambush (after the 2nd Ambush is when he really earns his nickname, it never made the series or books) and later he picks up a Thompson. having talked with XXX & XXXX that were there at those ambushes , they weren't German troops but foreign volunteers serving in the German army & they were ok and understood why they had to portray it as shown for the show / their were many American , British ect who joined the german army and esp in the Waffen SS had units for volunteers from every country. Yes Speirs did kill POW's (just not as portrayed here )and 1 of his own men (A Drunk NCO who refused to follow an order then went to draw his weapon but Speirs shot him 1st) he was cleared of the charges. the assault on the guns is for the most spot on a few things were changed and the guns were closer to the buildings were a MG 42 was in a window also.
Solid reaction to Part 2. It's good that you picked up on Sgt. Lipton showing leadership. When they are scrounging weapons and ammo, one trooper is mesmerized by the carnage. Lipton snaps him out of it by saying "McDowell, you OK? Then let's get going."
The battle of Brecourt Manor took about 4 hours. I know that they have to shorten the timeline for the show, but it should have been addressed.
Some of the troops got some sleep on the plane ride. They were given air sickness pills, and it really relaxed them.
This is a great series. You're absolutely going to love it. Each episode is brilliant in its own way, and like most of us watching this reaction, you will watch Band of Brothers over and over again. Great reaction. Looking forward to the next one. CURRAHEE 👍👍
So, here's some more of the real story so you can kind of get a feel for what the real vets went through, as opposed to this very well done depiction.
The paratrooper that landed near Winters that night wasn't Hall, but some supply Sgt from F company that Winters recognized right away. Then when he encountered Lipton (with that clicker), Lipton had twelve guys, not just two. Although a few of the twelve were indeed stragglers with the 82nd.
An interesting bit that's not depicted at all: when Winters went under that poncho to look at the map, one of the group that was with Lipton stole Winters knife. Winters was furious about it, but decided that it was neither the time or place to address the theft.
In the night, several other Easy company guys latched on to the group, including Buck, Guarnere, and Malarkey. Winters, Lipton, Buck, and Guarnere had nothing but their knives - as all of their leg-bags had been torn away in the same manner.
At about 3:00AM, they came across the Lt Colonel of another unit, who had about fifty men with him. Winters and his men were headed in the same direction they were going, so they fell in with the group for a little bit. It was with this huge group that the Germans were ambushed. Several of the Lt. Colonel's men are the ones who opened fire prematurely, as Guarnere still hadn't obtained a replacement weapon yet. After that, Winters and Guarnere were finally armed - having taken pistols off the dead Germans.
As far as the American in the German uniform they came across, Malarkey did encounter an American who had come to Germany after Hitler's call for "all loyal Germans" to serve the Reich. It wasn't as depicted here though. He was a German Master Sergeant, in the company of about twenty other German POW's. He was from Portland, Oregon, and had worked at Schmitz Steel Company up until 1938. Malarkey worked at Monarch Forge and Machine Works in 1942. The two places were very, very near to each other. Due to the year differences, Malarkey had never seen him before, and said he had no idea what happened to him.
Speirs did execute a group of German POW's, but it likely wasn't that group. If I remember correctly, the Germans Spiers executed occurred before dawn.
In the assault on Brecourt Manor, the jeep driver Lorraine is depicted as kinda a fifth wheel to the unit. In reality, he was very effective. When they were shooting the fleeing Germans while taking the first gun, Lorraine is depicted as missing the guys while Guarnere takes them out. In real life it was actually the reverse. Guarnere missed the German he was shooting at, and Winters had to shoot him. All the while, the German that Lorraine shot went right down.
Later on, a German who was stunned by a grenade came out to surrender. Winters was trying to point him to leave the trench, but he had a hard time understanding. Lorraine slipped on a pair of brass knuckles and belted the guy. Winters didn't care for treating prisoners that way, but it did the trick. The German suddenly understood to leave the trench to go surrender to someone else. The show depicts Joe Toye as using brass knuckles on a German, but he didn't have any during that attack.
The Brecourt Manor assault is also depicted as taking place in only a few minutes. In reality, the attack took about three hours.
Once again, great reaction! Looking forward to more.
This show was released in 2001 so filmed in 2000 and probably written in 1999 also Col. Edward D. Shames was the last living Officer of the 101st Airborne until he passed away on December 3, 2021 at the age of 99. This basically sums whos left from the war not many and Id imagine the most veterans from ww2 are all replacements.
My grandpa fought the war everyone night rest of his life after WWII he fought the Soviets from 1939-44 in the 2 wars between Finland and Soviet. So I´m not surprised of the feelings these vets showed when they where interviewed.
the strategy that Dick Winters used to take out the gun batterie is still taught in military schools today.
That's a neat bit of info, they should have included that at the end of the episode, after they listed who were awarded medals.
@@FrenchieQc They did
@@FrenchieQc ^^'
@@DanBeaird It was sarcasm.
In reference to Spears shooting Prisoners, Officers were told to mobile at all costs to keep alive. If units took prisoners, you either have to turn them over to underground to handle or Don't Take Prisoners. As soon as you take one you become responsible for their food shelter safety and care and that ends your ability to be mobile and for the first days of the invasion, they were surrounded and being hunted so you were mobile or dead. When asked if he did shoot any Spears did not say no and no one pressed him on it.
As far as Canadians executing POWs, almost never, except in retaliation. At least in WW2. WW1, we were a tougher people then. Canadian Airborne prided themselves on decent treatment of POWs (you can find the documentary on them here on UA-cam called “Victory From Above”), except for after they found some Belgian civilians executed by Germans. The couple of days after that, they were not ashamed to say their trigger fingers got itchy.
As far as the American paratroopers executing POWs, definitely happened. Remember that guy stuck in the tree? How did he die? Used as target practice while helpless. His comrades definitely remembered that as they came across the enemy.
As far as Speirs and POWs goes, he did order his men to shoot a few on D-Day, but it wasn’t there, and it wasn’t Malarkey’s neighbour.
Speaking of shooting prisoners. Remember that the airborne units were scattered, and in the case at hand with 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR, 90% were unaccounted-for. That meant that only 10% of the men required to accomplish their assault objective were available. And that meant that those units could not afford to divert manpower to guarding prisoners. "Do we guard prisoners, or do we do what we have to do with what we have in order of the invasion to succeed?" Tough decisions by junior leaders. I've read that Spiers shot the prisoners in the legs and knees, and in fact, if one watches that video sequence carefully, that is what is portrayed. I suggest that you watch the video and read about the 17th SS Panzer Grenadier Division executing the U.S. paratroopers of the 507th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82nd Airborne Division in the village of Graignes, along with the pastor of the village church, the U.S. doctor, and many of the village residents. Then there was the German murder of the Canadian paratroopers. Many are unaware that Hitler had directed that airborne troops be shot as "spies." These 507th men were dropped maybe 20 miles south of their intended drop zone--in fact, far out of the 82nd's sector and even south of the 101st Division's objective of Carentan. German commanders had a chaotic time of it. Like a ball in a pin-ball game machine, no matter where they tried to maneuver, they kept bumping into these scattered allied airborne units. As for the allied side, they were often led by sergeants and lieutenants and tragically short of ammunition and crew-served weapons.
Love band of brothers. One of the best war programs ever made
Band of Brothers is peak television 👍
None of the original Easy Company are alive today. This series was timely.
all the guys who spoke at the beginning of the series attended the War and Peace show in Kent in 2004.
Yes the Henry V...quote...band of brothers timeless...their sacrifice will never be forgotten...thank you for sharing this with us all,best wishes from the wirral peninsula....E....
I know this won't be a big surprise to you but even with 'slower' episodes the quality is as amazing as this one all the way through to the end. I watch the whole series every year and it always hits me in the feels.
The best on screen series ever for ww2. No question.
So glad that you're enjoying this amazing series! By the time you're through, these guys are going to feel like family (the family members you like, that is).
One of the men under Dick Winters command said, that though he couldn't swim at the time he would have followed Winters into the sea if ordered to do so.
18:10 Compton's gun had a broken firing pin. He lost his gun in the jump and picked one up on the road from a wounded soldier.
I understand that they were ordered NOT to take prisoners at the beginning. Prisoners would take troops to guard them and there was a danger of the prisoners fighting back, given a chance. It's harsh as hell.
It is and was a warcrime. I understand its almost impossible to take prisoners behind the lines but this was not it. Also Winters in one interview said that Speers admitted killing pows and gave permission to Winters to release that statement.
They had Spears run out of the trench to reinforce that he was a little on the crazy and fearless side. He was the officer who shot the German prisoners. They're setting up his character arc.
Those 88's weren't 88's. The 88mm originally was an AA gun, which also proved to be a very efficient anti-tank gun. The 88 wasn't really field artillery. It was suitable for direct fire, not really meant for indirect fire like with this battery. Probably at this point the term 88 had become synonymous with any German artillery. Most likely it was a battery of either 10.5cm or 15cm howitzers. In the series they seem to be 10.5cm.
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Long live Google. I checked and Google came with the following:
"Winters' team attacked and discovered No. 6 Battery of (Gebirgs-) Artillerie-Regiment 191, consisting of four 105 mm howitzers connected by trenches and defended by a company of soldiers."
I may have misread or be misremembering, one of the soldiers in an episode is asking Sgt Martyn to tap him when the light goes green and he replied “ the light is relight next to you “ , to which he replies “ just tap me “ .
This was due to him being colour blind but didn’t tell anyone .
That’s just something floating around in my memories , take it with a pinch of salt .
Have this and the Pacific and watch them at least once a year, When you get done with these i recommend Generation Kill the writer of the wire also great
one of the best war series ever made
Can you imagine how the assault on those guns would have gone if Sobel had of been in charge?
That's why I said in the previous episode that the NCO mutiny saved so many lives.
Richard "Dick" Winters was his name . He is the Man the the whole of Easy company respected right from the time in North Carolina when Sobel got lost and confused. The dude was soo clutch it was nuts. He could keep cool under pressure , run straight into rocket fire and make hard choices without hesitation . He was the true leader of Easy . Lewis NIxon is the dude played by Ron Livingston , & was Winters best friend and I.O of Easy en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Nixon_III . Best re-watch so far !!!
Thank you for your good content
Hi Alan I actually worked on this part of band of brothers.
That's pretty cool.
you happy few! You can be proud!
Imagine being in one of those planes... If i was in one of them I'd sure be happy to have the eclectic beard and company with me
BOB first episode was first aired in the US and Canada on Sept 09, 2001 - two days before the attacks on 9/11. 💔💔💔
The show came out in 2001 :) Crazy to think about... it still holds up insanely well today
Totally agree
It actually came out... 2 days before 9/11. So people kind of huddled together every week for each new episode.
Setting something in the past always helps to stop it looking dated. There was also nothing gimmicky, they used practical effects as much as possible and that also helps. It was also very well written and acted, by some young actors who went on to great things.
@@alundavies1016 Absolutely!
Remember the paratroopers only had a few men, didn't have men to do guard duty of prisoners. After the front got caught up, that's different.
Lovin your reaction to one of my top three series. The only thing wrong with it is that it’s an hour too short😅😊
Hi Alan, told you it gets better. This captures the chaos of battle and that life or death can be random. On to episode 3.
It was the orders to do away with German prisoners. Actually, I think it was worded "take no prisoners". OThey had no one extra to watch the prisoners. They would have had to feed them and tend to their wounds which would have cut into supplies.
The scene with Spears and the prisoners, he was following standing orders. It was the first day and too unorganized to start taking prisoners and they couldn't risk them falling back into rank
Regarding shooting the group of prisoners, it was probably a logistical thing. They only had a limited number of soldiers at that time and really couldn't spare any of them to babysit prisoners. It's brutal but what alternative did they have? If they had support personnel or MP's they could have turned them over to them. As it was....
even though this is a mini series.................IMO it beats Saving Private Ryan hands down
the orders were first few days on dd was no prisoners
Hope you are well brother,this is a fantastic show,I’ve watched it 3 times,these poor guys what they went through ,they must’ve thought” why did we bother with the shit show the world is now,my grandad was a radio operator on the Lancaster bombers,that’s all I know,he never spoke about it,ever,all of my respect to these guys ✊
There’s loads of famous faces with parts in this amazing show.
Greatest miniseries of all time, no doubt. There's been some good ones, but nothing touches BoB. Looking forward to the rest of your uploads on this. I'm not sure how far behind on editing you are, but if you haven't finished watching yet you're in for a treat. It gets better and better.
Best miniseries of all time imho.
i understood why spears did what he did they are airborne behind enemy lines with no guarantee that the landings would succeed you cant afford to take prisoners at this point. yea its cold but if you we're in that position you might consider it to or at least not stop it
They had no provisions for prisoners. They were to advance and take out the guns shooting on Normandy beach. It was fight or die.
Well done sir.....😊
You should try Generation War, it's like a German Band of Brothers, almost as perfect as this.
They could not take prisoners on D-Day no place to hold them. That made that action an acceptable one.
They didn't take prisoners on D day
13,000 men drop out of the sky on top of the German Army, at Midnight.
You cut out we're in Normandy
Hi EB. Are you still doing BoB on here or is it Patreon only?
They took few prisoners the first few days. There wasn't the manpower to devote to guarding prisoners at this point in the war.
Yes, Speirs shot some captured Germans, but not like that.
Allies had no manpower or facilities to handle prisoners...prisoners would hamper their mission
pity you were't there to advise them eh
You take POWs if you are able, they did not have the ability to do so.
The guys at the start of the episodes are the actual easy company guys
The bespectacled one is Dick Winters
I hope the Beard has finished watching all the episodes because this is one horrendous spoiler if not! You really should delete this post.
First time in combat you don’t know shit and going out of the trench was a dumb newbie to combat mistake. The others that witnessed that won’t ever make the same mistake.
this is the best mini series ever made it is incredicble