Yamaha... Please do something about the R3
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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The Yamaha R3 used to sit at the top of its class...so what happened?? Watch to find out!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:25 History of the R3
1:58 R3 Specs & Features
4:10 Ninja 400
4:56 Ninja 500 & Z500
6:11 ZX-4RR
6:46 CF Moto 450SS
9:28 Aprilia RS 457
10:56 Final Thoughts - Комедії
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They should have launched R4 or R5 by now, they brought this ugly and outdated bike to India few days back with a price tag above Aprilia 457 which i have already booked. Yamaha has lost it.
we all want an R7RR? hahaha inline 4 690CC sports bike.
In India they really disappointed everyone 🤡
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They could not have launched it cheaper as R15 is already sold at premium price
@@yashpandirkar4814atleast give better hardware then
I will really reiterate that the Triumph Speed 400 is a better package altogether. 😂
Yeah no way in hell it's gonna beat aprilia 457 unless everything in aprilia breaks.
Yamaha needs to give us a R4 400cc crossplane
Dude knows it
i just bought the ninja 500 451cc already
@@hogrida5298you like it ?
@@commenttuff8891 love it the bike feels super light main issue you might have is not enough torque and in the wind the bikle feels like its getting pushed but those are just nitpicks its great
With what Kawasaki did to the 400, the R3 could see a rise in ownership. Would be a good time to update it.
i've felt that for years -- make it at least a 430cc -- as it is - it's a slug in town
Honestly it's not just the lack of displacement, it's the way the R3 is tuned that makes it feel like shit compared to the Ninja. It's tuned with the max power not kicking in until higher in the RPMs. Like yeah that's cool for the track and highway but feels sluggish for everyday riding in the street.
What did they do to the ninja 400
@@hektaahthey made it into a cbr500
Why would people get the R3 if there is now a Ninja500?
They overpriced and made a mess of the release in R3 in India. Considering it used to be one of my favourite back in 2016 when I first rode it and wanted to finally buy (thinking it would be affordable), but no. Aprilia on the other hand with its release of RS457, nailed it. It offers more power and features at a much lower price in India. I still have mixed feelings about the release of Ninja 500, I preferred the Ninja 400 for its nimbleness, even though 500 might have more torque but once again it will be overpriced. That being said, Ninjas will do very well but mostly in the pre-owned market in India.
KTM on the other hand is kicking ass but it has that hooligan/squid/chapri image in India. Really would have loved if RC390 new model got released soon. Honda again has disapponted by not launching a twin cylinder sports. Neither 8S nor R7 are coming to India, which is a disappointment again.
all yamaha releases are overpriced
wasn't the r7 announced earlier this year and said to be a limited time sale next year or so?
@@asdfghjkl123456783 we got the r7 in the philippines... r6 still better
Until now all we had in this segment was the kawi 300 and the gixxer sf250 (which I own).
I kinda wanna see how people receive the r3 and the mt03 in India
KTM has always been hooligan 😂
crazy thing is they keep increasing the price of the R3 every year without any upgrades
Same in Brazil. Its ridiculous.
In India, Yamaha is selling the R3 for $600 *more* than the Aprilia RS457, a motorcycle that is $1299 dearer than the R3 in the US. Go figure 😅
I hate this push for more cc and more power. These are begginer bikes. Small bikes. What's gonna happen to this segment? They keep pushing it and pushing it soon everything will start at 600cc for no reason. They just gonna keep getting more expensive and more powerfull. I just want a street bike that looks nice and isn't that slow. Not a track bike
Everything is going get more expensive
A lot of it has to do with emissions. Using larger displacement to keep similar power figures. Negative to that is you get lower reving motors with bottom end grunt, super fun for seasoned riders, but tourqe is the last thing a brand new rider needs with zero experience. Most "Beginner" bikes have near 30ft-lbs of tourqe or more now and will pop the front up with a good twist in low gears.
They should simply make a 4-cylinder R3 and compete with thr ZX-4R. 🥺
That would add at least $1,500 to the price... may as well make it a 500cc.
Nah that's way too niche
If they made a tiny crossplane I4 that revved to the moon, I could see Yamaha laying waste to the rest of the small displacement market. People like big nasty liter bikes, high rpm's, and the crossplane sound. But many like not dying so if they can get the looks, the sound, but still be fun & racey without the liter bike spice.... I think people would be beating the doors down for a little R1.
They already had the R6 😂
@@justathinker8669 not anymore. Plus that's a 600
Actually agree with yams on this one....R3 will be the next gsxr250 if doesn't update. Even the diehard yamaha fans have to admit better out there in same class.
Its not even close to a gsx250 dude. Its still basically a wash between it the 400 and the cfmoto, and I can actually buy one without hunting for it and driving 100 miles. It doesn't need an update just they can add 5 hp.
Got my R3 in 2022. Best beginner bike in my opinion, especially using a r6 throttle tube once you get used to the bike. I got an all black one, and people who don't know motorcycles think it's a liter bike. R3 is also fun to ride since it's easy to full throttle and shift gears as much as you want. This bike is fun to commute to work in.
what yr did you get ?
@@Les3o3 Mine is a 2021 model. It says it's a grey color, but it's more shiny black with accented matte black.
In India they priced it 10% over Aprilia 457 which is absurd. Even with discounts R3 is so dated and basic that its nonsense to buy it now.
I loved my little R3, had it for 1.5 years. They can be weapons in the right hands (I've gotten outriden on a twisty road by one before 😬). I think if they bump it to a 400-500, it would be perfect. The main reason I got rid of it was that anything over 75 mph was a struggle for it.
If they updated it to a 500cc crossplane, pushing 60+hp, but able to be restricted to A2 compliance like a lot of middleweight bikes, while in the price range of sub $7k, it would honestly be the best beginner bike on the market. Hell, at that point, it'd give even the Ninja 650 a run for its money.
Fragile?
It struggles to get past 75?? I’ve seen it hit 90 no problem ??
Hey, I like this "small" displacement bike conversation and really hope that you will review and give away more of them next year. And with the number of them that will be available next year I am excited.
my r3 gets more compliments than any of my buddies liter bikes lol without the badge they always ask if its a 6 and sometimes i lie 💀
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The R3 is fragile compared to any of the other small track options. I race with CVMA in the 350 Super Sport class. The Ninja 400 and RC-390 are in the 500 SS class, as well as the Ultra Lightweight class. In the 350 SS class the R3 is pretty much the easy button, but the Ninja 300 and the CBR300R are still competitive options.
They still sell the cbr300r over yonder?
How could the Honda CBR286R (should be the real name) be competitive? May as well ride a KTM 250 Duke.
@@lifted_above with the right person riding it (not me) it can be competitive. The 250 duke would be the only KTM option, remember we’re talking 350 super sport, the 390 is in the same class as the 400 ninja, the cf moto 450, and the new Aprillia 452…
I've been saying this shit too. I'm glad you made a video for it. The R15 V3/V4 and R15M DESTROYS the R3 in regards with tech. - VVA, Slipper clutch, and the R15M even has launch control and track modes LMAO. Come on Yamaha!
Edit: Forgot to add, I'm thinking the reason the R3 is getting ignored is because a new bike is coming. I want to believe.
There is an R15M? lol
@@Daniel-dj7fhThere is. Even comes with a quickshifter. Does a 155cc bike need it? Probably not. Still kinda makes the R3 look more of a joke now.
The R125 definitely doesn't need it@@pandaxcvii
R3 has had a slipper clutch from the beginning.
@@richarddoherty2875 Not true.
Idc what anybody says, my r3 will always stay in my name. I’ve been riding it for almost 3 years now, put close to 15k miles on it and i would never sell it.
I feel you, have been on my cb500f for 5 years now.
I only want the new cbr650r for the sound and looks haha
Crazy idea - don't bump displacement but instead slash the price. Guaranteed to make everyone happy
Should just discount the r3. 5k flat out the door or cheaper.
If they did that I’d buy one today my local dealership has one for 5,899 with abs not including dealer taxes and all the other bs you’re looking at lol $6,350 out the door which is outrageous for what you’re getting
Great, great, great review! Love the perspective and history.
Yamaha really needs to launch a R4. It is enough now.
May as well go straight for 450cc as that seems to be the "future" of the class.
@@lifted_above 400cc is a "middle-weight" class license in japan. That is one of the reason they try to stick close to that number. Similar thing to 250cc which is the starting point of motorcycle compulsory inspection(thus making 250cc bikes cheaper to own).
@@JinroHz How does Kawasaki's late Ninja 500 and Eliminator fit into that? Both run a 451cc.
@@lifted_above It's more of a preference to conform to. Which is smart for Kawasaki to do, and a shame that Yamaha is shying away from 400-500cc range.
@@JinroHz There's regulations with MotoAmerica junior cup racing pertaining to engine size and a lot more, but Yamaha isn't in the middle of that pack, but the tail. Almost no one uses one, they all go for the Ninja or RC390...... mostly Ninja.
One point of disagreement on a starter bike. Resale is the most important feature and the CF MOTO will not have that. This is a starter bike and the best I can find on a used starter bike from Honda or Kawasaki that is three years old, is 75% of the new purchase price. You would be lucky to get 50% on the CF. Am I full of it? Well I own a Hyosung that I purchased with 300 miles on it for 33% of its new sale value. The bike is not bad, you just can't sell it.
I agree..as of now Yamaha give too much attention to r15 having r3 left behind...I wish the r4 and r9 is really coming the soonest...
Yammie has manifested it. We probably will see a new one within the next year or two now 😂
Yamaha should do an R4 400cc triple with a restricted version for learners. It would be a mental thrash for the streets.
In Indonesia, the Yamaha R25 (Asian version of the R3) cannot compete with the CBR250RR, even losing sales to the ZX25RR which is much more expensive.
How much does the 250rr cost compared to the R25?
Baby R7 would be lit. I really think there is a place for high quality, small displacement bikes. I don’t see the assumed correlation between smaller displacement & cheap. I agree beginner budget bike will always be a thing but I hope Yamaha goes full yam with upgrades in suspension & braking for these babies. Cheers
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Had an 21 mt03 for a month then got a 24’ ninja 650, zero regrets. Start on a 650 if you fit
I just bought one this past Saturday. Great bike.
got my Yamaha R3 2017 the beginning of 2023 and i absoultly love it I wanna get the R7 as my next upgrade.
Im not trying to ask a dumb question or be disrespectful, but why does the giveaway for the r1m keep getting pushed back in days? Just curious. Thank you for the awesome content
I work for Yamaha. Every time they announce the new models for the upcoming year, I ask our reps if they are going to make a 400cc. Every time, they say no. I asked why and they say that they feel they don't have any need to compete with the ninja 400. When I converse with them on why they feel that way, they never give a reasonable answer. They just spew arrogant nonsense. I love Yamaha but the fact that they don't even care to have a 400cc sport bike or a 1000cc ATV plus the fact that they won't bring the tracer 700 to the states really aggravates me sometimes.
I’m honestly in love with the zx4rr. I wish it was a hair cheaper but I feel like it might be a good competitor to the R7. I’m not too knowledgeable on bikes but they seem similar to me lol. I wish more companies made bikes like the zx4rr
this is what im talking about, they put a lot of new features on r15m, it even have track control and slippers clutch. Maybe they can change the engine in r3 having a a 270degrees, slipper clutch, track contol and tft display ,it would be called r3m, but that just my opinion, but what do you think?
Totally! that's like the much needed upgrade now!
Never forget r15m has Quickshifter, Trackmode, lap timer that's a Good Upgrade
I have a baby mt03. Ridden for 1 season. I want more power now but i have taken the bike offroad and its light and does what i want it to do. Was thinking r7 or the zx6r but i have done mods to the bike and kind of attached to it now. Its my first bike and i dont wanna get rid of it
As someone that is looking at getting there first road bike, I would love an R4 with 400cc-450cc. However, if not I’ll go ninja 400.
450 SS has been having an issue with the crank bearing going out, A lot of times what is happening is riders are really pushing these bikes higher in the revs, typically around 80 miles an hour. I see that a knock develops and the motor goes out. CfMoto needs to put some more research into this bike as I've seen so far in the past 2 months. 6. Motors needing either complete rebuilds or replacement
Minor thing like that?
Who manufacture's that 450 engine? I know CF Moto sources the KTM engine for their biggest option, which itself is manufactured in China.
Interesting, thanks for sharing David. I've been keeping a close eye on this bike since its release & hadn't heard about this. It's a pretty big deal imo cause firstly if the pattern continues it's not a good look for their all new CP engine. Secondly it puts a huge question mark over the bikes reliability in the long term. Could see many unhappy owners in the future especially if the issue rears its head anytime after the warranty has expired.
In Australia their new 450 MT adventure bike with the same engine is being released early this year, currently on preorder. So far it's garnered heaps of interest as us Aussies have been itching for a small displacement adventure bike like this for years & Cfmoto have really delivered.
Any idea if Cfmoto have sorted a fix with a revised bearing so it won't affect their new adventure bike engine ?
Not bad for a beginner bike im getting mine next week for $5800 out of the door here im california. Pretty good price considering its gonna be my first bike
Hey Yammie i know they arnt your style but what you think of the old yamaha radians?
We would love to see a similar video on INDIAN bike market.
I just recently brought R3. I think for a beginner rider R3 will do the job. But it would be better if they could add little bit extra features.
But I am happy with R3.
Nice bro! I just passed my MSF and bought a 2016 R3 this last weekend. I’ve only had the chance to ride it home down the street but it does seem to be a good bike for starting. I’m sure we’ll both have better bikes with more features down the road
Shit I'm sorry that you wasted your money
@@danieldesilva8659 I got 2023 brand new r3. I think I am gonna stick to it until 700cc or 1000cc
Yeah defo a great bike, ride defensively and safe my guy. It's gonna be a blast.
Nah man, it's not wasted if it was fun@@michaeldirosa5292
I am BEGGING for a bike with power in between a ninja 400 and an R7. I don't want something as crazy as an R7 for my first bike but I also don't want something as tame as the ninja 400
You need to go for RS457, because CBR 500 and Ninja 500 are heavy and you wouldn't like it, Aprilia is a tad bit faster than Ninja 400 with more power/torque.
If it's your first bike than understand that you might have not ridden the bikes at fullest so you need to learn.
Disagree, the entry level category doesn’t need to get faster. A true beginner bike should specifically be slow and lightweight with more forgiving throttles to keep riders from making disastrous mistakes. There are less riders on the road than ever and yet fatalities are steadily climbing even with better technology and I believe that has much to do with the culture of starting on bikes way too fast for them. (Recently rode with a new rider that started on a m109…I told him to be careful but lo and behold a month later he totaled it after riding only 4 months)
starting on a old ninja 250 was the best decision ever made. you can't convince a dude not to start on a 600cc or something like that though, they dont wanna hear it.
@@FunniestFlicks I started on an Aprilia shiver 750 (90+ horsepower) and then a CBR 600, and it severely delayed my ability to learn cornering and balance on a bike
I almost feel like the R3 is forgotten about. Maybe 2024 is the year that it gets an update 🤷🏽♂
Can you make a new video about all the new 2024 Yamaha bikes?
I dunno I rode an r7 once and it felt similar to a 400, just more aggressive. The torque felt the same, the acceleration felt the same. Honestly performance wise very similar.
How long have you been riding?
@@mikes_channel 4 years
I used one on the track last Sunday. It is really fun to track but so underpowered
I have absolutely loved my R3 100%
Agreed.. It's been 4 years since the last update..
In Australia and New Zealand we have that r3/7 its called the r7la and its brilliant except the price is a bit 😅 as it is a $1000 less than the full power version
You are right, a high revving 500 would do me just fine. 16000 revs and decent ergos for the street. I'm in.... goodbye to my dreams of green.
Would like to see that in the ninja 450...er 500.
You know, you could also look at the cbr500r. I have a cb500f and it's super fun.
Enough power, built well, hella fun. Personally it just needs a 270° Crank.
But a twin is never gonna rev to 16k tho.
We need an R4
In line 4 baby
The Mt-03 is much better for beginners due to riding position, and I went with a used Zx-636R as a soul track bike!!
I've been saying the same thing on the high price big 4 brands in my country on their lower cc 2023 model underbone category that still use disposable rim, cheap bulb, poor analog panel and drum brake, while the underbone china bike in my country offers cheap price that is monoshock, all led, inverted front shock, full digital dash with hazard lights and passing light, all disc brake and stylish mags.
im a Fan of Yamaha .My dream bike is R1M. As a beginner i set my eyes on R3 . I've been waiting for an update this year ,just like you said" a baby R7" .then India happened,Why Yamaha.we got R15M. Where's R3M or better R4M ?Welp CF moto 450SR it is. R3 cost around 5grand in my country add 200 more for 450SR what's the point for an ancient motorcycle like R3 2024
It's an insult that Yamaha built the R15M without updating & building a new R3M or R4M. Why the smaller bike better ? How they gonna put so much effort into the styling & tech of a 155cc single which looks awesome btw but leave the iconic R3 completely unrevised & ancient in comparison. It's annoying as hell.
The new zx400rr has sparked rumours Honda and Yamaha could release 4-cylinder 400s too. Haven't heard anything about Suzuki making a new gsxr400 though
Small bore CP4 engine? That'd be crazy!
Should i consider buying super meteor 650 or i should think of interceptor?
Go sit on them. Totally different. Same powertrain.
Im still gonna buy one this summer! Its gonna be my first bike!
Honestly your better off going with a ninja 400....the r3 has so many recalls, the ninja 400 is a great bike all around and way more speed you wont outgrow it as quickly as the r3. Plus they are always in demand and hold a great resell value I may be bias as I own a ninja 400 and honestly 17,000 miles in and I still love it... Good luck though on whatever u choose
Yamaha R3 is still the best go-to bike for me
For sure! Love this machine to death
Would ninja 400 still be the best choice for beginner if ninja 500 releases? And how much would it cost?
Buy a good used bike for beginner
what do you think about the QJmotor 600rr yam?
Unfortunately bikes have become so expensive that even the entry class is becoming out of reach.
Updating, yes and no. What is obsolete?
Crap you don’t need on the bike, apart from keeping the look fresh, let’s not exaggerate.
I like the GSX250R but seems very limited in performance
however, R3 prices are somewhat reasonable on the used market as opposed to the Ninja 400. You can get a 2021-2022 with a couple thousand miles, bone stock for like 4200$. A ninja 400 with that kind of use is still going for MSRP. I think I'm just going to get an r3 next month after I take my MSF course, and just ride the hell out of it till I can afford to buy a bigger bike with cash.
Idk what else they can do to a strictly 300. After watching the Triumph 660 video this feels like a shot in the dark.
Agreed. Yamaha needs to move to at least 400-450cc in this class. And give us a nice booming 270° twin note.
Right now, the only bikes I'd consider are the coming RS457, the Ninja 500 (451cc), or the RC390.
On another note.... what about the low-revving, bulky Honda CBR500R (471cc)? Take a middle weight bike that weighs more than a 600 supersport and shove a dull 180° parallel twin low-revving tractor motor into it. How.... Honda-like. Also, their CBR300R (286cc) is also very dull. Does Honda make anything that's exciting? Maybe their 750 Hornet, but that's not coming to the USA as of now.
If CFMOTO's aftersales improve, Im gertting one.
They launched R3 at such an abnouxious price with features lower than R15(150cc). What they were thinking?
Since they got rid of the R6 and R3 through it may be great it needs to be upgraded. I say Yamaha needs to make an R5 with a 499cc parallel twin with a 270 degree crank. Hands down would buy
I am wrong or is 370lbs a lot for a 450cc bike? The zx6 weights 7lbs more.
I want 400cc 47hp R4 or R4M with 270°engine that looks like R125/15 or R7
i mean, with the manufacturing partnership with in China with CFMoto, why won't Yamaha extend it to technology sharing so they can borrow the 450 engine from CF and build an R4/R5 from there? The current CFM 450 engine is bulletproof -- it is an evolution of the 400 NK engine anyway, which was derived also from Kawasaki's ER6N when CFM was manufacturing for them.
They just need to put their own mapping to make it a bit more efficient (the CM 450 engine guzzles gas like craaazy), put their own bodywork/accessories, an call it a day
Yamaha R3 still comes with regular forks here in Colombia, its just sad
Maybe they'll use that crossplane twin from CFmoto with an exhaust tuned by a piano company 😎 R4.5
A decade behind . That's a good thing
Is the giveaway only for America or would you ship internationally?
I have a n400 & my brother has an r3 and he gets all the compliments 😢
It just looks better that’s all
can find the r3 i want, except one thats going for a smmuch as a 600cc
The thing is, young people who want a cheap sports bike will no longer have one to buy, if all brands move to the 450-500cc, there will be no market of cool looking 250/300 that should be cheaper. I have the R3 and I'm looking forward to the Aprilia arriving in my country. Not the biggest jump but my bike is 6 yeras old now.
What's the meaning of CKD unit of R3 if you want it to be successful Yamaha!
Wait the Pricing in picture 2:02 is Old. Its even more expensive in India now it cost ₹4,65,000 Ex showroom Delhi.
I want an R9! YAMAHA! GIVE ME AN R9 WITH THAT CP3!!
give it the R125 treatment, so a new look, a new dash, TCS, all the bells and whistles the new R125 comes with.
I have a question
i wish they were updated so the r25 got update to in asia
R3 and mt 03 have inverted forks but the mt07 does not 🤔
yo r3 costs 5.2k $ same with cfmoto 450sr in my country and ninja 400 cost 6k $, and motorcycles with less than 400cc are not permitted on express highways here.
Guys im 6 foot 3 or 192cm height and i really want an R3 as my first bike . Can i fit in it even with a bit of discomfort which i dont mind . I just want it to look good on me and not put me in any danger . Is it possible ?
On the limit but yes depending on how much you weigh. If you're over 85kg just get a bigger bike.
@@636Knight im 74 currently
@@TheDolmadaki7 You'll definitely manage. The R3 is one of the few bikes out there in that class with the same physical dimensions with a 600cc class bike like it's older brother the R6.
I'd recommend a suspension modification to match your weight and perhaps aftermarket pegs if you feel like your knees are too high. But you should be fine regardless.
Having watched a few videos with the specs on the Ninja 500 I really can’t see it taking off - its advantage over the Ninja 400 is negligible.
I mean, there are enough people who buy bikes new, and if you can't buy the n300 anymore you have to buy the n500
@@Daniel-dj7fh They’re still making the ninja 400. The horsepower on the 500 and the 400 are almost identical but the 500 is more expensive. Can’t see any reason for it to exist.
I don't believe that they'll make both at the same time@@someoneelse1i1i
needs to be a inline 4
That stroked out 400 is fun to ride, I got my leg over the Eliminator at Kawi's demo days.
Yamaha made a huge blunder in India as Aprilia 457 and rc 390 costs less then the r3 now.
They really need to slap in a smaller cc CP2 engine into the R3 if they want to compete.
The R3 engine should've been a cross plane from the beginning IMO. If not in the 1st Gen AT LEAST in the 2nd Gen update from 2019 onwards it should've received a CP2.
A turbo or supercharged R3?
Yes
They need a 450 class twin with a 270 crank. I need a baby R7/MT07
I love my cf moto 450.. but a R5 would be a great addition to the Cf Moto, Honda, Kawasaki and Aprillia mix, Sorry Ktm... you had your chance to bring out the 490, But chose not to, so you get left behind for now....
Should make an R4 with a 270° crank for sure
If it also had a 160 rear wheel and R7 looks, the bike would kill the market just because of fanboys.
But I've also been hoping for a KTM RC490 with a 270°
Now that I rode the new Hornet and the cb650r, I'm planning on getting the cbr650r next tho lol.
R3 they need to do something about the R1 lol it feels date af compared to a Ducati or a S1k.