Thank you so much for the vid!! I just traded my Acura for a 2006 Wrangler X that definately has the death wobble. I got screwed bad on the deal. Took it to a mechanic and he said the WHOLE front end needs rebuilt...having a hard time accepting that. I think since I'm female all mechanics think I know nothing about vehicles. They are mistaken. I learn every day more and more and enjoy working on my own vehicles.
11:54 XJ as a tent is the best tent idea I have ever seen. Also, the explanation of how death wobble starts is simple and amazing. The only thing I would add is to check tire inflation. My 93 had the shakes because the PO had some 30" BFG AT KO tires from two Presidents ago and the wheels won't hold air.
I am not a mechanic....at all. Fill the gas tank, changing oil....that's about the extent of my knowledge. I bought a 2000 jeep Cherokee to learn how to work on a vehicle. I've changed out the rad, heater core, shocks, front brakes, wheel hubs, ball joints (fml....fun), and u-joints. I now have the death wobble when hitting @ 50mph but only when traveling in a straight line. If turning at that speed, no problems. Your video is great bro! Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this!
My DW story... I have a 93 Grand Cherokee. At around 30,000, it started the death wobble. I have a car lift and have done my own mechanic work all my life. So I figured I have this. Up it went and I did everything I have done to hundreds of vehicles for years to check all suspension and front drivetrain. Everything seemed tight and unworn. My wife's dad bought the Jeep new and passed shortly after. Her mother drove the jeep to the store and back till she passed and we inherited it. I know the thing was not put in four wheel drive very many times in it's life. So basically what I am saying is the Jeep was just like new when we got it with less than 20,000 miles. Back to the story of dw. I couldn't find anything wrong so I took it to an alignment shop that I have used for years and have always had good service from them. They couldn't find anything wrong so we drove it up the road. At 45 mph it went into the dw. The guy said he had never seen anything like this. He checked everything and did an alignment on it and it still, dw... After several attempts, he said he determined the track bar was the problem. $180. later he said it was fixed. I picked it up and on the way home it was still wobbling. Went right back and got my money back and found another shop. Same thing, not a clue what caused it but said I needed to replace all my bushings and tie rods. I asked why and they said they were all worn enough that they were all causing the problem. I didn't buy it. Now if I would go from 40 to 60 under heavy throttle, I could get past the wobble and it would run all day. But between 45 and 60 it would almost always wobble and violently!!! Eventually I replaced every part that can be replaced including tires twice because they would wear out fast. 4 or 5 shops tried to fix it and no one knew what to do. After putting up with the problem for several years and spending probably $2,000, I was thinking about what was going on when it was wobbling. I had even stuck my head out the window to watch the tire. What I decided was the toe in was causing the problem. I know it was aligned to specs at least 5 times but something was still not right! I got my tape measure out and a couple of pieces of angle iron and set the toe in to less than 1/8th of an inch. It was over 3/8ths when I first checked it. It has now been over 100,000 miles later and never once have I experienced the DW! I figured out the geometry of these suspensions cause this problem when they get to a certain harmonics. With the toe in adjusted in too far, the left tire will try to go right at a certain harmonic and when it gives in to traction making it slip, then the right tire will be trying to go left and at just the right harmonics the fight for traction gets to be more than the tires can support and they begin fighting and they start the wobble. Don't know if this is a good explanation, but when I took almost all the toe in out of my alignment, it fixed the problem. Even with 31 inch tires the wobble never came back. I now have over 160,000 and it runs and drives like a new one.... Almost.... lol...
Never even thought of just reaching up and turning the steering shaft. I've watched dozens of vids on how to solve death wobble. As soon as you turned your steering shaft I was look at the play in that track bar. Thank you for this info.
We did these on Ford's clear back to the 70's. And the reason we DID NOT have to keep replacing new parts is you don't put petroleum lube on chassis bushings. Ford makes a lube for it or you can use (sparingly) silicone dielectric. They always said I was lying and replacing unnecessary parts but you just showed why and how I had to do that eventually to every vehicle with those arrangements. The body is centered over the axle and tires by the track bar. When it's free to flop, you see the body shift over the tires instead of the tires turning. If you like to mash the brake and turn in parking maneuvers, you can tear it up again real soon. Ease up and let the rotor slip thru the pads as the wheel turns. That's the way they are. Peace out. Those guys can eat it too.
Here's a trick for you, when greasing rubber bushings don't use axle grease but instead use Permatex silicone grease. It makes these go in like butter.. no vise just push in with one hand- and silicone won't deteriorate rubber like grease will. We've all seen those old motor mounts with the rubber all swollen and pushing out, petroleum and rubber don't mix without ruining the rubber.
ATTENTION!!! An addition tip!! I've experienced this myself. I noticed when the track bar goes bad you can turn the steering left to right from 10 to 2 o'clock. If done at a normal turning pace while parked the vehicles front end will (wiggle) shift left to right independent from the axle and tires. It is very noticable and it is best to look from the drivers side along the outside of the fender of the vehicle and compare it to the tire and axle position. Your axle should not move under your vehicle this is the symptom of a worn out track bar. Hope this helps someone diagnosing this issue.
Great video! This has happened twice to me on my pristine 01 WJ. One time on the original/factory steering damper(90k)- I replaced it with a shit after market. And a second time, 50k miles later- again steering damper and right lower tie rod. THE CURE: RANCHO damper and all tie rods replaced with MOOG product. Thank again
Got to get my XJ fixed. It cranks but won't start, and when I put it in reverse before it quit starting, it had a really bad clunking noise. I've put a ton of money into it, but I will NEVER give up on it. Love these XJ's
Well I figured out your problem as soon as I saw what you did during reassembly of the poly and metal bushings. With polyurethane bushings you should never, and I mean NEVER use a grease that is petroleum based in any way. The two quickest ways of destroying a polyurethane bushing is to lubricate it with a petroleum based grease, or to not lubricate it at all. You should ONLY use a silicone based grease as a lubricant on polyurethane bushings. And you should do it often. To make the job easier and so you don't have to constantly remove the parts to grease them, you can drill and tap holes and in the joint and screw in grease zerks so you can use a grease pump making the job quick and easy.
Had a customer who's Jeep had a seized caliper causing death wobble, would cruise like a Cadillac at 65 until you lightly tapped the brakes. Wouldn't do it until they were nice and hot. Very nice video. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
After many dollars and much frustration my death wobble turned out to be A sticky caliper pin and a slightly warped rotor. I'm sure lift / camber didn't help. Been good for 2+ years
@@rdmgwinn it was intensely scary lol. I was driving it for about 15 minutes about to call the customer and tell them I couldn't replicate the problem, next thing you know, tapped the brakes to turn around and I'm holding on for dear life. Thought for sure the steering wheel was gonna come off. Good times lol
Good to see you back on UA-cam! Yes, I would like to see you build a track bar, and how to center the body over the axle with it. What measuring points to use, etc...
Wobble was crazy every time i hit bump. Didnt matter how fast i was going. Scary ash driving fast. Bought a new track bar, installed it myself. Removed the old one, slapped the new one on, all in less than 40 minutes. No special tools required. And all from checkinv out you tube videoes about the deat wobble in 2001 jeep. Not a hint of wobble since. Been at least six months now. I think im the shizznit. Lol thanks yt.
I just found your channel! I picked up a 97 XJ in great shape about a month ago, and it had a bit of a death wobble until I put new tires on it, but being a former Ram owner I know it’s still something worn as well haha. I’m going to check this out. Lots of mods coming, but only 3” up. Thanks for sharing! Now to find the random miss at idle! ✌🏼
congratulations on your purchase of an XJ, yeah tires can be one of the causes of death wobble There's so many things that can cause it. Good luck with the random misfire, and thank you for watching.
For those who wants to replace their bushing due to Death Wobble. Get the one from Kevinsoffroad DUROMETER Bushing. It is HARDER than poly. It fixed my death wobble. Also check the bolt HOLE where the track bar goes, make sure it ddnt expand so much. The bolt can move and can cause DW.
after assuming my wobble was from the driver's side track bar mount , i flipped when i wet to replace it and saw how loose the passenger side bolt was, so that was the problem. still had the issue even with the new bar, till i went for a larger bolt recently, found at lowes . tough getting the 17mm wrench in over the axle to hold the nut where the 14mm used to just make it tho. so i used a heavy screwdriver blade as a wedge while i cranked down the bolt head in front , so far so good. and nice parking job on the outro !
Death wobble kept me from falling asleep one night while driving. I bet it causes numerous XJ exhaust manifold cracks when it happens. It's the worst when you're on cruise control. Thought I was going to crash and die :-)
Yeah can definitely be scary I had it once before way worse than you see in the video I would swear the tires were jumping off the ground scare the crap out of me.
I just redid the entire steering system and suspension. I upgraded everything. New bushings front to back, now arm ends all the way around, all new front and rear ball joints etc. Did a 4" lift and new shocks, new pitman arm, new adjustable track bar, dual front stabilizer, and a alignment. No more death wobble.
Bro I dont know where you came from or how long you have been doing this but this was one of the most amazing videos and craftsmanship I have ever seen. Good information and not too much. I want some of your murch. Thanks man.
Nice informative video. Pretty straightforward way of checking play in steering parts. I'd be leery of reaching up in there with the engine and fan running, but I'll have to see how space there really is. And put the transfer case in neutral and chocks. Only thing I was REALLY hoping to see, was apples to apples test. See how it behaved on the same highway at the same speed, with the new track bar bushings.
Awesome project love the details, What about the grade 5 bolt you're using on the bottom of that track bar, I would use grade 12! and it should be a shoulder bolt with a spline under the cap providing for interference fit on the front side under hex head. You tighten the backside nut only... This ensures that bolt will not rotate or fall out providing the nut becomes loose or falls off...Peace
I experienced the death wobble with a lady driving a Cherokee next to me on the freeway. It was a severe wobble and I slowed down with her and when she slowed down I noticed the wobble went away at 45mph when she left the freeway. Makes me afraid the drive my XJ above 80. Thanks for the great info.
I had a ZJ that would move ever so slightly at the axle. I ended up buying one from JKS and it would still move the same amount. I was very close to doing what you said and build one with two Heim joints at either end. However, that would require a frame mount like you have. Chasing down Jeep steering problems can drive one CRAZY.
Keep in mind that petroleum based grease can eat rubber. Make sure you get a silicone-based grease if you’re putting it on rubber parts. Like Sil-Glyde from NAPA.
I agree, I use tire soap for that kind of thing. It allows the parts to be assembled but then dries out and becomes sticky so the parts won’t move around. There is a product that is called P-80 grip-it, it is an assembly lubricant for rubber bushings. It makes assembly easy and it dries out and makes the rubber grip the metal so it won’t move.
Different solution for my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Went through all 'normal' things to check/replace as this video says. Solution: I had wrong size tires on...too small of tires. Never thought to check, hope this helps some before spending $$ like I did.
First video of yours I have watched, you are clear and easy to understand. I will sub, thank you for your time to make the videos. You know what you are doing it is obvious, be more confident man and keep sharing your knowledge.
ooops!!!!!!! you did it again. This is another great video. Thank you so much for showing and sharing what we all love, working on our casr. thanks again, great video.
Wow thank you sir for your videos I was driving down the road and it’s done it before but dang this last time was a bit concerning. Because of your detailed information I was able to pin point the issue and resolve it thank you amen
Does this work on a 2006 Sport X Wrangler? Could you provide that information and I will do the work. Our local machinic has no clue. Thank you for the Video.
Interesting video and great info. We have a 2 wheel drive Cherokee XJ (1991 w/227K miles) and we have the same issue over about 55MPH, but it doesn't always happen. It only happens if you hit some kind of bump to set it off when doing over 55MPH. Not sure where to look because the 2 wheel drive Jeep has a different layout in the front end... Phil Jersey Shore Area.
You should be able to look in the same areas where I pointed out the 2 wheel drive and the 4wdrive. They are really very similar, They should have the same shocks, Knuckles, tie rods, tie rod ends. It is very common for death. Wobble to start once hitting a bump at a particular speed.
@@martinbuilt Thanks I appreciate your info. We are actually looking for a 2nd XJ model only a 4X4 model (we'll keep the current Jeep also) as we like them so much...I'll sell my car as soon as I find a decent condition XJ with little rust and lower miles. It's hard to find them, but they are out there. Thanks again for your help. Phil
I have a 04 wrangler with the 50 to 55 wobble I replaced drag link tirod and damper shock so Happy finally got it done after two years! Until I drove it same game $280 no change.so I red tagged the stirring wheel. Frustration 100%
I’m not a Mechanic but I’m very sure this is what’s going on with my 1994 Jeep Cherokee Laredo. Can you let me know more or less how much on the price range it would be to take to a mechanic to fix. So I’m not looking clueless. I’m researching allot about my Jeep. So I know what it may need or to do. You really know what your doing & very authentic. Thank you
I would imagine that a mechanic shouldn't charge you more than 2 hours labor to replace the track bar if that is the problem. And thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate that.🙂
@@martinbuilt Thank you for responding so quickly. I hope that’s what it is. I’m very confident about it. I found you very quickly as well. I’m just gonna Flow and see where the universe leads me. Thank you again. ✨✨✨💫💜sending you Love & Light.
Yourve lucky with your case, when I had a loose trac bar bracket, hitting bumps in the road a certain way would shake my wheels and steering so intensly I couldn't control it and they would chirp and only stopping the jeep would stop it
I almost had it that bad before. Turned out to be a loose track bar bolt. Couldn't get over 15 MPH and you would swear the tires were jumping off the ground.
I wish I would have known you back in the days whenever I was dirt track racing. Hey building cars from the junkyard fabrication was one of the biggest things for Street stalker UPS truck never drop anything off for me
MY 2000 WJ GRAND CHEROKEE LAREDO 4.0L 4X4 NEEDS A MODIFIED NEW TRACK BAR .. I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN HEAVY-DUTY SUSPENSION IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WANT TO GIVE IT A TRY. THAT TRACK BAR THAT YOU MADE MAN IF THOSE ANTOINE UNSCREW AND YOU JUST PUT A NEW ONE IN THAT WOULD BE WAY AWESOME... THAT WOULD REVOLUTIONIZE DOING YOUR OWN BUSHINGS.. GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THANKS FOR ALL THE DETAILS THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION GOD BLESS
Bought an XJ with the typical 3.5" RC lift that includes (extended) tubular lower control arms. Measured Caster at 11 Degrees. Front end was otherwise tight but had pretty severe DW at 51-55mph. Adjustable Uppers and 5 degrees caster makes it impossible to actually DW but I can feel the vibration that would set it off when going over bumps. I'm curious to see what happens when I get the dumb excessive backspacing wheels off.
One of the lesser known causes of Death wobble is caused by having a lift and pointing your front pinion up. The lift springs make the lower control arms too short... which pulls the pinion up, which throws your castor too close to Zero degrees. Castor needs to be positive (pinion down/knuckles laid back). Castor angle hovering around 0 degrees or in the negative will cause very touchy steering and death wobble every time.
I've changed lots of these usually on dodge 1 tons. Modify your steering and install a lift kit, do several things, think of new ways to make your vehicle try to kill you.
I have a 96 zj Cherokee and I need some help putting a good lift on it, I'd love to bring it to you and you could run a video on a pretty clean 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo build. Thanks Donnie not walberg.
Someone said that using a type of great to drive those bushings in can then lead to squeaks. What's your experience? Do you think that's just a bunch of crock? I have some squeaky suspension and was about to grease up some joints.
@martinbuilt. Martin, after I bought my 93 XJ Country, I started checking all the Jeep Cherokee related channels on UA-cam. You & Dan H are my favorite ones and the only channels I go to for Tips &/or for any ''How To'' information, plus I enjoy just watching. Before I do anything else, I am going to go outside & do exactly what you showed in this video & see if there's any play on mine. To be honest, I still haven't taken my XJ over 50mph lol, so I haven't a clue if I do have that pesky and irritating ''Death Wobble''. The one thing on my XJ is it came with a 3 inch lift and I'm wondering if there were any part/parts on the front end that should have been replaced, to match the height of the lift. So any help in that regards would be great. Apart from that, with the 28 years on my XJ, I accidentally backed into the planter box at the end of our driveway, so I managed to damage the left-rear Bumper, so I 'll either get a OEM replacement for the time being, or try to find someone who can build a replacement rear bumper close to the design I'm thinking about. As always, great video Martin, thanks for posting it..... MD......... Edit: Yep, the Track Bar on my XJ was replaced when the lift was installed, with the correct extended bracket on the left side. The right side bushing &/or sleeve has a lot of play. Whomever installed the parts didn't even tighten up the bolt on the right side lol. Not that it would be the reason for the play but regardless there is a lot of play. What bothers me is, unless the lift was done years ago, why would it go out so quickly... I mean the other end still looks new/newer to me anyway...... Thanks again for the upload martin, I was ready to look elsewhere for the problem. You saved me some time that's for sure....
I bent the sway bar bracket on my 2005 Titan. I was wondering what it is that I can do to leave it more 4x4 worthy without the sway bar but at the same time safe.
It is dangerous to drive on the streets without a swaybar. I have done it before and if you had to turn suddenly you could round the vehicle easily. I recommend building some HD sway bar brackets with swaybar disconnects and when you go off-roading you could disconnect the swaybar.
@@martinbuilt Thank you so much. I really like my truck but if I have scrap it then I might aswell. I'll try it but if I cant do it then im going to take it to the scrap yard.
Just bought a 2001 XJ today. Coming home I had the death wobble seriously horrible death wobble. Previous owner put it in a brand new track bar a week ago one of his selling points. I look under and hells bells to me I believe he had put in the wrong part. I now own it so I’ll fix it. He had put in 2” pucks up front and a helper spring in back. I’m going to buy 2” longer coils and a new set of leaf springs, he said shocks are new they look it but who knows. I experienced the death wobble some eight times coming home from Scranton pa to Syracuse Ny. I know why it’s called the death wobble for fact.
Make sure the bolts to the track bar are torque properly. Congratulations on your new purchase, you bought a vehicle that is going up in price. And will be a collector's item.
Hey Martinbuilt , love the video. My first experience with death wobble scared the living hell out of me in heavy 5 oclock traffic. Almost had to come to a complete stop for it to stop and it went away until a week later, hit another bump jus right again and it happened again. Considering how long it's been since you posted the video, i don't know if your still making any parts but if you are I would love to buy what I would need to raise my Jeep. Not sure if 6in or 4in lift is what I would need but would love to chat and get your opinion. Thanks
Hy. I have also death wobble on my XJ. I lifted him 9 inch with a lift kit and have 37 inch tyres on it. All is new on the sterring and on the axles but i allways had death wobble. I don't no what can i change anymore. Sorry for my bed englisch i am from Bosnia.
Most of the time it could be the end of you axle I think it would be call the cv joint or axle bearings are bad it will bend one way but not the other without a wobble
Im planing on buying first jeep got 2 options, XJ 4.0i or ZJ with 5.2 v8, wich one do u suggest i should get, im just planing on doing some trail riding, bit mudding, towing with friends. And really want to beat friends Terrano II 2.7TD and Pajero 3.5 v6. I heard that ZJ has some transmision problems. Wich one do u suggest i get.
I installed a RE 4.5 lift in my Cherokee. Put new balljoints tie rods and about 600 miles I went over a railroad tracks and got death wobble retorked everything and it went away. Driver side balljoints were loose. I set my front axle from 3/4 degree to 1 degree helped with the bump steer a little bit but I think I need to lower my track bar mount. My geometry sucks. Yea I would like to see how you did yours track bar and mount. Did it help with the wander and bump steer? It just has some bad steering manners that I'm not familiar with. My first Cherokee with coil springs. I have always ran the 70s jeeps with leaf springs.
Yes, I have no wander or bump steer at all. I can fit bumps in the road and the steering wheel doesn't even move and that is with no hands on the wheel.
So I just bought a 1996 ZJ with a 4in lift and it has death wobble when going 30 and above. The guy we bought it from is a certified mechanic and claimed that it’s the ball joints, he bought new joints and gave them to us. I’m going to try and install them this weekend but do you think it could be the track bar as well?
As you probably know there's a lot of causes for death wobble. Before going to the trouble of changing up the ball joints I would try also removing the front drive shaft see if the death wobble goes away. Have you tried checking the bushings the way I showed in the video?
martinbuilt it’s my first car and I got it last night so I haven’t had the time to look to deep in to it. I’ll check out the front drive shaft and see if removing it helps but i may just go for it and replace the joints to prevent any more issues. With this being my first car though I haven’t had much or really any experience with cars, is removing the front drive shaft difficult?
ive replaced most of my front end...still got wobble...not as bad but its wobbly...next thing to check is the sector shaft..Im on my second track bar too and the bushings keep going out...might get poly
I believe checking steering as he did is the best way. I do it not running as to put more stress on stuff. But if nothing is worn out I'd look into alignment. If a shop is too lazy to adjust caster it can cause issues.
ive got sloppy steering and a hell of a clunk in the front end on my 97 ZJ..... yet no wobble . the key is... sticking to good old 235-75R15s..... less power needed to turn and stop them...... and it doesnt wear parts out (as quick) . if ya need more than a 235-75R15..... ya probably should not be their in the first place or your doing it as a hobby.... in which case have fun . not a place i cant go in a 77 k10 chevy or that 97 jeep in the gumbo mud and snow drifts of NE montana just gotta know how to keep the hammer down...... when to go around.... and chain it up on all 4 when it gets BAD!!
What grease did you use on those bushings? Needs to be one that does not interact with the bushing material, otherwise it will break down the busing prematurely. Maybe that is what happened with your original?
Ole Roy general purpose grease won't attack poly nor stick to it like it should, Silicone Based Lubricant is the best choice since it lowers friction and is completely waterproof, both things you want in a lubricant. Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) based grease like Super lube or Dow corning does not mix with oil, or any other liquid, it holds silicone lubricant to polyurethane bushings and sleeves very well, making a tough, sticky combination
Thank you so much for the vid!! I just traded my Acura for a 2006 Wrangler X that definately has the death wobble. I got screwed bad on the deal. Took it to a mechanic and he said the WHOLE front end needs rebuilt...having a hard time accepting that. I think since I'm female all mechanics think I know nothing about vehicles. They are mistaken. I learn every day more and more and enjoy working on my own vehicles.
11:54 XJ as a tent is the best tent idea I have ever seen.
Also, the explanation of how death wobble starts is simple and amazing. The only thing I would add is to check tire inflation. My 93 had the shakes because the PO had some 30" BFG AT KO tires from two Presidents ago and the wheels won't hold air.
I am not a mechanic....at all. Fill the gas tank, changing oil....that's about the extent of my knowledge. I bought a 2000 jeep Cherokee to learn how to work on a vehicle. I've changed out the rad, heater core, shocks, front brakes, wheel hubs, ball joints (fml....fun), and u-joints. I now have the death wobble when hitting @ 50mph but only when traveling in a straight line. If turning at that speed, no problems. Your video is great bro! Thanks for taking the time to make and upload this!
My DW story... I have a 93 Grand Cherokee. At around 30,000, it started the death wobble. I have a car lift and have done my own mechanic work all my life. So I figured I have this. Up it went and I did everything I have done to hundreds of vehicles for years to check all suspension and front drivetrain. Everything seemed tight and unworn. My wife's dad bought the Jeep new and passed shortly after. Her mother drove the jeep to the store and back till she passed and we inherited it. I know the thing was not put in four wheel drive very many times in it's life. So basically what I am saying is the Jeep was just like new when we got it with less than 20,000 miles. Back to the story of dw. I couldn't find anything wrong so I took it to an alignment shop that I have used for years and have always had good service from them. They couldn't find anything wrong so we drove it up the road. At 45 mph it went into the dw. The guy said he had never seen anything like this. He checked everything and did an alignment on it and it still, dw... After several attempts, he said he determined the track bar was the problem. $180. later he said it was fixed. I picked it up and on the way home it was still wobbling. Went right back and got my money back and found another shop. Same thing, not a clue what caused it but said I needed to replace all my bushings and tie rods. I asked why and they said they were all worn enough that they were all causing the problem. I didn't buy it. Now if I would go from 40 to 60 under heavy throttle, I could get past the wobble and it would run all day. But between 45 and 60 it would almost always wobble and violently!!! Eventually I replaced every part that can be replaced including tires twice because they would wear out fast. 4 or 5 shops tried to fix it and no one knew what to do. After putting up with the problem for several years and spending probably $2,000, I was thinking about what was going on when it was wobbling. I had even stuck my head out the window to watch the tire. What I decided was the toe in was causing the problem. I know it was aligned to specs at least 5 times but something was still not right! I got my tape measure out and a couple of pieces of angle iron and set the toe in to less than 1/8th of an inch. It was over 3/8ths when I first checked it. It has now been over 100,000 miles later and never once have I experienced the DW! I figured out the geometry of these suspensions cause this problem when they get to a certain harmonics. With the toe in adjusted in too far, the left tire will try to go right at a certain harmonic and when it gives in to traction making it slip, then the right tire will be trying to go left and at just the right harmonics the fight for traction gets to be more than the tires can support and they begin fighting and they start the wobble. Don't know if this is a good explanation, but when I took almost all the toe in out of my alignment, it fixed the problem. Even with 31 inch tires the wobble never came back. I now have over 160,000 and it runs and drives like a new one.... Almost.... lol...
Never even thought of just reaching up and turning the steering shaft. I've watched dozens of vids on how to solve death wobble. As soon as you turned your steering shaft I was look at the play in that track bar. Thank you for this info.
We did these on Ford's clear back to the 70's. And the reason we DID NOT have to keep replacing new parts is you don't put petroleum lube on chassis bushings.
Ford makes a lube for it or you can use (sparingly) silicone dielectric.
They always said I was lying and replacing unnecessary parts but you just showed why and how I had to do that eventually to every vehicle with those arrangements. The body is centered over the axle and tires by the track bar. When it's free to flop, you see the body shift over the tires instead of the tires turning. If you like to mash the brake and turn in parking maneuvers, you can tear it up again real soon. Ease up and let the rotor slip thru the pads as the wheel turns. That's the way they are.
Peace out.
Those guys can eat it too.
Here's a trick for you, when greasing rubber bushings don't use axle grease but instead use Permatex silicone grease. It makes these go in like butter.. no vise just push in with one hand- and silicone won't deteriorate rubber like grease will. We've all seen those old motor mounts with the rubber all swollen and pushing out, petroleum and rubber don't mix without ruining the rubber.
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ATTENTION!!! An addition tip!! I've experienced this myself. I noticed when the track bar goes bad you can turn the steering left to right from 10 to 2 o'clock. If done at a normal turning pace while parked the vehicles front end will (wiggle) shift left to right independent from the axle and tires. It is very noticable and it is best to look from the drivers side along the outside of the fender of the vehicle and compare it to the tire and axle position. Your axle should not move under your vehicle this is the symptom of a worn out track bar. Hope this helps someone diagnosing this issue.
This happened to me today, thank you for the attention to detail. Literally everything you described.
Excellent points for my xj. The clown on the video is a joke. I wouldn't let him touch my jeep unless I was standing there!
@@wildestcowboy2668 wow.. you haven't seen much of Martin, have you. He is a treasure. Your loss, our gain. Goodbye.
Great video! This has happened twice to me on my pristine 01 WJ. One time on the original/factory steering damper(90k)- I replaced it with a shit after market. And a second time, 50k miles later- again steering damper and right lower tie rod. THE CURE:
RANCHO damper and all tie rods replaced with MOOG product.
Thank again
Got to get my XJ fixed. It cranks but won't start, and when I put it in reverse before it quit starting, it had a really bad clunking noise. I've put a ton of money into it, but I will NEVER give up on it. Love these XJ's
Well I figured out your problem as soon as I saw what you did during reassembly of the poly and metal bushings.
With polyurethane bushings you should never, and I mean NEVER use a grease that is petroleum based in any way. The two quickest ways of destroying a polyurethane bushing is to lubricate it with a petroleum based grease, or to not lubricate it at all.
You should ONLY use a silicone based grease as a lubricant on polyurethane bushings.
And you should do it often. To make the job easier and so you don't have to constantly remove the parts to grease them, you can drill and tap holes and in the joint and screw in grease zerks so you can use a grease pump making the job quick and easy.
Excellent points BigSalt. This clown is the reason I don't let anyone work on my jeep unless I'm there!
Had a customer who's Jeep had a seized caliper causing death wobble, would cruise like a Cadillac at 65 until you lightly tapped the brakes. Wouldn't do it until they were nice and hot. Very nice video. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
After many dollars and much frustration my death wobble turned out to be A sticky caliper pin and a slightly warped rotor. I'm sure lift / camber didn't help. Been good for 2+ years
@@rdmgwinn it was intensely scary lol. I was driving it for about 15 minutes about to call the customer and tell them I couldn't replicate the problem, next thing you know, tapped the brakes to turn around and I'm holding on for dear life. Thought for sure the steering wheel was gonna come off. Good times lol
This video supercedes all other death wobble videos. If I could pick just one, it would be this one.
(Bleepin Jeep one is a close second)
Thank you!
I agree!! Finally, after tons of videos, THIS made it comprehensible. Thanks!
Good to see you back on UA-cam! Yes, I would like to see you build a track bar, and how to center the body over the axle with it. What measuring points to use, etc...
LOl...I didn't realize I ever left. Yeah, I'll get some parts together.
Wobble was crazy every time i hit bump. Didnt matter how fast i was going. Scary ash driving fast. Bought a new track bar, installed it myself. Removed the old one, slapped the new one on, all in less than 40 minutes. No special tools required. And all from checkinv out you tube videoes about the deat wobble in 2001 jeep. Not a hint of wobble since. Been at least six months now. I think im the shizznit. Lol thanks yt.
you are very welcome, glad that cured it.
I just found your channel! I picked up a 97 XJ in great shape about a month ago, and it had a bit of a death wobble until I put new tires on it, but being a former Ram owner I know it’s still something worn as well haha. I’m going to check this out. Lots of mods coming, but only 3” up. Thanks for sharing! Now to find the random miss at idle! ✌🏼
congratulations on your purchase of an XJ, yeah tires can be one of the causes of death wobble There's so many things that can cause it. Good luck with the random misfire, and thank you for watching.
For those who wants to replace their bushing due to Death Wobble. Get the one from Kevinsoffroad DUROMETER Bushing. It is HARDER than poly. It fixed my death wobble.
Also check the bolt HOLE where the track bar goes, make sure it ddnt expand so much. The bolt can move and can cause DW.
after assuming my wobble was from the driver's side track bar mount , i flipped when i wet to replace it and saw how loose the passenger side bolt was, so that was the problem. still had the issue even with the new bar, till i went for a larger bolt recently, found at lowes . tough getting the 17mm wrench in over the axle to hold the nut where the 14mm used to just make it tho. so i used a heavy screwdriver blade as a wedge while i cranked down the bolt head in front , so far so good. and nice parking job on the outro !
Finally, after tons of videos, THIS made it comprehensible. Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful. 😊
Use to watch Chris fix..
Until I found this channel.. excellent
Death wobble kept me from falling asleep one night while driving. I bet it causes numerous XJ exhaust manifold cracks when it happens. It's the worst when you're on cruise control. Thought I was going to crash and die :-)
Yeah can definitely be scary I had it once before way worse than you see in the video I would swear the tires were jumping off the ground scare the crap out of me.
It keeps me from falling asleep at night when I’m in my bed.
That was AWESOME. Im thinking of getting an XJ. I love turning a wrench, but good watching a pro. Well done, thank you.
Thank you 😊
XJ 's are a blast!
I just redid the entire steering system and suspension. I upgraded everything. New bushings front to back, now arm ends all the way around, all new front and rear ball joints etc. Did a 4" lift and new shocks, new pitman arm, new adjustable track bar, dual front stabilizer, and a alignment. No more death wobble.
Michael SANCHEZ yet
How much did that cost you?
Love how simple and clear your videos are man. Appreciate all the information and content!
Bro I dont know where you came from or how long you have been doing this but this was one of the most amazing videos and craftsmanship I have ever seen. Good information and not too much. I want some of your murch. Thanks man.
Nice informative video. Pretty straightforward way of checking play in steering parts. I'd be leery of reaching up in there with the engine and fan running, but I'll have to see how space there really is. And put the transfer case in neutral and chocks.
Only thing I was REALLY hoping to see, was apples to apples test. See how it behaved on the same highway at the same speed, with the new track bar bushings.
Awesome project love the details, What about the grade 5 bolt you're using on the bottom of that track bar, I would use grade 12! and it should be a shoulder bolt with a spline under the cap providing for interference fit on the front side under hex head. You tighten the backside nut only... This ensures that bolt will not rotate or fall out providing the nut becomes loose or falls off...Peace
I experienced the death wobble with a lady driving a Cherokee next to me on the freeway. It was a severe wobble and I slowed down with her and when she slowed down I noticed the wobble went away at 45mph when she left the freeway. Makes me afraid the drive my XJ above 80. Thanks for the great info.
I had a ZJ that would move ever so slightly at the axle. I ended up buying one from JKS and it would still move the same amount. I was very close to doing what you said and build one with two Heim joints at either end. However, that would require a frame mount like you have. Chasing down Jeep steering problems can drive one CRAZY.
I hear you, it's always "sumpthin" I still haven't got around to building that HD track bar, I got everything.
Keep in mind that petroleum based grease can eat rubber. Make sure you get a silicone-based grease if you’re putting it on rubber parts. Like Sil-Glyde from NAPA.
Thanks for the heads up
I agree, I use tire soap for that kind of thing. It allows the parts to be assembled but then dries out and becomes sticky so the parts won’t move around. There is a product that is called P-80 grip-it, it is an assembly lubricant for rubber bushings. It makes assembly easy and it dries out and makes the rubber grip the metal so it won’t move.
Different solution for my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Went through all 'normal' things to check/replace as this video says. Solution: I had wrong size tires on...too small of tires. Never thought to check, hope this helps some before spending $$ like I did.
First video of yours I have watched, you are clear and easy to understand. I will sub, thank you for your time to make the videos. You know what you are doing it is obvious, be more confident man and keep sharing your knowledge.
Nice job Martin.Glad it was a simple fix.I would love to see you build a track bar because I would like to make my own too.
Thanks, Dan, You got it, I will get some things together.
ooops!!!!!!! you did it again. This is another great video. Thank you so much for showing and sharing what we all love,
working on our casr. thanks again, great video.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow thank you sir for your videos I was driving down the road and it’s done it before but dang this last time was a bit concerning. Because of your detailed information I was able to pin point the issue and resolve it thank you amen
glad you found this video helpful and cured the problem.
DOnt have an XJ, have 2 Grand Cherokees - 2002. Still love getting info on these Jeeps -Good Job!
Excellent video as usual. I’ve watched a lot of your WJ videos but somehow didn’t realize you have a built XJ as well. Nice rig. 👍
Thank you, yeah I've had the XJ for almost 10 years now. It's been a great Jeep.
Martin I have used hand soap to install rubber bushings, slides easy and does not deteriorate the rubber.
That's a good idea. Thanks for sharing 👍
Does this work on a 2006 Sport X Wrangler? Could you provide that information and I will do the work. Our local machinic has no clue. Thank you for the Video.
A C-clamp works well too to push bushings in
Great video. Thanks for the how to and detail. I also can appreciate you having to trouble shoot by yourself. No help around when I need it. Carry On!
Thank you, glad you found it helpful.
Interesting video and great info.
We have a 2 wheel drive Cherokee XJ (1991 w/227K miles) and we have the same issue over about 55MPH, but it doesn't always happen. It only happens if you hit some kind of bump to set it off when doing over 55MPH. Not sure where to look because the 2 wheel drive Jeep has a different layout in the front end...
Phil
Jersey Shore Area.
You should be able to look in the same areas where I pointed out the 2 wheel drive and the 4wdrive. They are really very similar, They should have the same shocks, Knuckles, tie rods, tie rod ends.
It is very common for death. Wobble to start once hitting a bump at a particular speed.
@@martinbuilt Thanks I appreciate your info.
We are actually looking for a 2nd XJ model only a 4X4 model (we'll keep the current Jeep also) as we like them so much...I'll sell my car as soon as I find a decent condition XJ with little rust and lower miles. It's hard to find them, but they are out there. Thanks again for your help.
Phil
I have a 04 wrangler with the 50 to 55 wobble I replaced drag link tirod and damper shock so Happy finally got it done after two years! Until I drove it same game $280 no change.so I red tagged the stirring wheel. Frustration 100%
Have you lifted the Jeep and if so I would check your caster setting.
I replaced everything in the suspension made by Chrysler
Worked like a charm
good to hear, death wobble sucks.
I replaced everything but ball joints and still wobble problem at 70mph wonder if the 2” lift spacers are the problem
I’m not a Mechanic but I’m very sure this is what’s going on with my 1994 Jeep Cherokee Laredo. Can you let me know more or less how much on the price range it would be to take to a mechanic to fix. So I’m not looking clueless. I’m researching allot about my Jeep. So I know what it may need or to do. You really know what your doing & very authentic. Thank you
I would imagine that a mechanic shouldn't charge you more than 2 hours labor to replace the track bar if that is the problem.
And thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate that.🙂
@@martinbuilt Thank you for responding so quickly. I hope that’s what it is. I’m very confident about it. I found you very quickly as well. I’m just gonna Flow and see where the universe leads me. Thank you again. ✨✨✨💫💜sending you Love & Light.
My grand Cherokee started doing this. Looks like I’ve got a fun project tomorrow.
Yourve lucky with your case, when I had a loose trac bar bracket, hitting bumps in the road a certain way would shake my wheels and steering so intensly I couldn't control it and they would chirp and only stopping the jeep would stop it
I almost had it that bad before. Turned out to be a loose track bar bolt. Couldn't get over 15 MPH and you would swear the tires were jumping off the ground.
I wish I would have known you back in the days whenever I was dirt track racing. Hey building cars from the junkyard fabrication was one of the biggest things for Street stalker UPS truck never drop anything off for me
I bought a Redhead Durango steering box.. ordered a Ironman 4x4 box brace kit with swaybar drop brackets. Hopefully that will be one less weak point.
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New sub I am working on mt 2000 XJ it is coming along good. I will be watching your stuff to learn more thank you.
Martin, you the man.
Hey Martin at the end of the video, that differential position is bad due to the oil level, which goes to the down wheel.
Great video keep em coming. 👍
They should just call it " The Repair Wobble" because all you got to do is inspect & repair the front suspension ✌
MY 2000 WJ GRAND CHEROKEE LAREDO 4.0L 4X4 NEEDS A MODIFIED NEW TRACK BAR ..
I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN HEAVY-DUTY SUSPENSION IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WANT TO GIVE IT A TRY.
THAT TRACK BAR THAT YOU MADE MAN IF THOSE ANTOINE UNSCREW AND YOU JUST PUT A NEW ONE IN THAT WOULD BE WAY AWESOME...
THAT WOULD REVOLUTIONIZE DOING YOUR OWN BUSHINGS..
GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THANKS FOR ALL THE DETAILS THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION GOD BLESS
I just got a jeep grand Cherokee limited and it has death wobble...i am hoping to use this to find the cause
You can drill the factory spacers out. A lot faster, no smoke/fires.
I fixed my wobble by changing 2 lower tie rod ends
Like he said,"death wobble"can originate from multiple sources
I don't even have a Jeep but this is good to know, nice Jeep BTW.
Thank you, and also thanks for watching
Bought an XJ with the typical 3.5" RC lift that includes (extended) tubular lower control arms. Measured Caster at 11 Degrees. Front end was otherwise tight but had pretty severe DW at 51-55mph. Adjustable Uppers and 5 degrees caster makes it impossible to actually DW but I can feel the vibration that would set it off when going over bumps. I'm curious to see what happens when I get the dumb excessive backspacing wheels off.
One of the lesser known causes of Death wobble is caused by having a lift and pointing your front pinion up. The lift springs make the lower control arms too short... which pulls the pinion up, which throws your castor too close to Zero degrees. Castor needs to be positive (pinion down/knuckles laid back). Castor angle hovering around 0 degrees or in the negative will cause very touchy steering and death wobble every time.
you are is right, I don't know how many times I hear, I lifted my Jeep now I got death wobble.
I've changed lots of these usually on dodge 1 tons. Modify your steering and install a lift kit, do several things, think of new ways to make your vehicle try to kill you.
Is rebuildable both bushings on a stock bar, trying to fix mine
Yeah, I would like to see you do that if you haven't already.
keep on filming good work
How do we know what should or shouldn't be moving. Having never done this lol
Wow! That is a nice Jeep
Thank you
I have a 96 zj Cherokee and I need some help putting a good lift on it, I'd love to bring it to you and you could run a video on a pretty clean 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo build. Thanks Donnie not walberg.
Someone said that using a type of great to drive those bushings in can then lead to squeaks. What's your experience? Do you think that's just a bunch of crock? I have some squeaky suspension and was about to grease up some joints.
@martinbuilt. Martin, after I bought my 93 XJ Country, I started checking all the Jeep Cherokee related channels on UA-cam. You & Dan H are my favorite ones and the only channels I go to for Tips &/or for any ''How To'' information, plus I enjoy just watching. Before I do anything else, I am going to go outside & do exactly what you showed in this video & see if there's any play on mine. To be honest, I still haven't taken my XJ over 50mph lol, so I haven't a clue if I do have that pesky and irritating ''Death Wobble''. The one thing on my XJ is it came with a 3 inch lift and I'm wondering if there were any part/parts on the front end that should have been replaced, to match the height of the lift. So any help in that regards would be great. Apart from that, with the 28 years on my XJ, I accidentally backed into the planter box at the end of our driveway, so I managed to damage the left-rear Bumper, so I 'll either get a OEM replacement for the time being, or try to find someone who can build a replacement rear bumper close to the design I'm thinking about. As always, great video Martin, thanks for posting it..... MD.........
Edit: Yep, the Track Bar on my XJ was replaced when the lift was installed, with the correct extended bracket on the left side. The right side bushing &/or sleeve has a lot of play. Whomever installed the parts didn't even tighten up the bolt on the right side lol. Not that it would be the reason for the play but regardless there is a lot of play. What bothers me is, unless the lift was done years ago, why would it go out so quickly... I mean the other end still looks new/newer to me anyway......
Thanks again for the upload martin, I was ready to look elsewhere for the problem. You saved me some time that's for sure....
I bent the sway bar bracket on my 2005 Titan. I was wondering what it is that I can do to leave it more 4x4 worthy without the sway bar but at the same time safe.
It is dangerous to drive on the streets without a swaybar. I have done it before and if you had to turn suddenly you could round the vehicle easily. I recommend building some HD sway bar brackets with swaybar disconnects and when you go off-roading you could disconnect the swaybar.
@@martinbuilt Thank you so much. I really like my truck but if I have scrap it then I might aswell. I'll try it but if I cant do it then im going to take it to the scrap yard.
What all that? What does HD
Sway bar brackets mean? can I look it up on youtube?
Just bought a 2001 XJ today. Coming home I had the death wobble seriously horrible death wobble. Previous owner put it in a brand new track bar a week ago one of his selling points. I look under and hells bells to me I believe he had put in the wrong part. I now own it so I’ll fix it. He had put in 2” pucks up front and a helper spring in back. I’m going to buy 2” longer coils and a new set of leaf springs, he said shocks are new they look it but who knows. I experienced the death wobble some eight times coming home from Scranton pa to Syracuse Ny. I know why it’s called the death wobble for fact.
Make sure the bolts to the track bar are torque properly.
Congratulations on your new purchase, you bought a vehicle that is going up in price. And will be a collector's item.
Death wobble, that aint no stinkin death wobble...lol Nice video man. Even nicer jeep
You should see the death wobble i got bro. Everything gets thrown around my jeep everytime it happens my jeep is a mess...
@@Crazydude10001 Me too....🙃
@@Crazydude10001 🤣😄🤣👍👍
I like your video. Some might argue your bushing are warn out because of the wobble. Thoughts?
lol...then what caused the the death wobble. The death wobble went away after replacing the bushings.
Awesome, Thanks for your video. Have a Happy Jeepsgiving 🙂
Thank you and a happy Jeepsgivings to you and yours
Brilliant Jeepism!!
Hey Martinbuilt , love the video. My first experience with death wobble scared the living hell out of me in heavy 5 oclock traffic. Almost had to come to a complete stop for it to stop and it went away until a week later, hit another bump jus right again and it happened again. Considering how long it's been since you posted the video, i don't know if your still making any parts but if you are I would love to buy what I would need to raise my Jeep. Not sure if 6in or 4in lift is what I would need but would love to chat and get your opinion. Thanks
Thanks so much, man. I'll struggle with mine tomorrow
Hy. I have also death wobble on my XJ. I lifted him 9 inch with a lift kit and have 37 inch tyres on it. All is new on the sterring and on the axles but i allways had death wobble. I don't no what can i change anymore. Sorry for my bed englisch i am from Bosnia.
That is a lot of lift. It is most likely that caster angel on the alignment.
I’ve been dealing with that problem for about 2months already scary stuff right there
It can be real scary the 1st time it happened to this XJ it was a loose track bar bolt I would swear the tires were jumping off the ground.
Most of the time it could be the end of you axle I think it would be call the cv joint or axle bearings are bad it will bend one way but not the other without a wobble
Im planing on buying first jeep got 2 options, XJ 4.0i or ZJ with 5.2 v8, wich one do u suggest i should get, im just planing on doing some trail riding, bit mudding, towing with friends. And really want to beat friends Terrano II 2.7TD and Pajero 3.5 v6. I heard that ZJ has some transmision problems. Wich one do u suggest i get.
Thank you, Great editing
I installed a RE 4.5 lift in my Cherokee. Put new balljoints tie rods and about 600 miles I went over a railroad tracks and got death wobble retorked everything and it went away. Driver side balljoints were loose. I set my front axle from 3/4 degree to 1 degree helped with the bump steer a little bit but I think I need to lower my track bar mount. My geometry sucks. Yea I would like to see how you did yours track bar and mount. Did it help with the wander and bump steer? It just has some bad steering manners that I'm not familiar with. My first Cherokee with coil springs. I have always ran the 70s jeeps with leaf springs.
Yes, I have no wander or bump steer at all. I can fit bumps in the road and the steering wheel doesn't even move and that is with no hands on the wheel.
It was the alignment for me and my dad
yes to much tow in can cause death wobble.
Keep up the great videos
Happens to my Jeep a lot if I accelerate wrong. If I'm a bit too aggressive with the gas it'll wobble as soon as I get over 50mph
makes sense, mine would do it more often when the fuel tank was full because shifting the weight to the rear.
So I just bought a 1996 ZJ with a 4in lift and it has death wobble when going 30 and above. The guy we bought it from is a certified mechanic and claimed that it’s the ball joints, he bought new joints and gave them to us. I’m going to try and install them this weekend but do you think it could be the track bar as well?
As you probably know there's a lot of causes for death wobble. Before going to the trouble of changing up the ball joints I would try also removing the front drive shaft see if the death wobble goes away. Have you tried checking the bushings the way I showed in the video?
martinbuilt it’s my first car and I got it last night so I haven’t had the time to look to deep in to it. I’ll check out the front drive shaft and see if removing it helps but i may just go for it and replace the joints to prevent any more issues. With this being my first car though I haven’t had much or really any experience with cars, is removing the front drive shaft difficult?
Thank you so much for the video it really helps
ive replaced most of my front end...still got wobble...not as bad but its wobbly...next thing to check is the sector shaft..Im on my second track bar too and the bushings keep going out...might get poly
keep us informed, good luck!
I believe checking steering as he did is the best way. I do it not running as to put more stress on stuff. But if nothing is worn out I'd look into alignment. If a shop is too lazy to adjust caster it can cause issues.
ive got sloppy steering and a hell of a clunk in the front end on my 97 ZJ..... yet no wobble
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the key is... sticking to good old 235-75R15s.....
less power needed to turn and stop them...... and it doesnt wear parts out (as quick)
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if ya need more than a 235-75R15..... ya probably should not be their in the first place
or your doing it as a hobby.... in which case have fun
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not a place i cant go in a 77 k10 chevy or that 97 jeep in the gumbo mud and snow drifts of NE montana
just gotta know how to keep the hammer down...... when to go around.... and chain it up on all 4 when it gets BAD!!
What grease did you use on those bushings? Needs to be one that does not interact with the bushing material, otherwise it will break down the busing prematurely. Maybe that is what happened with your original?
I got an Cherokee and thats the next issue to address. Been a great vehicle for about 10 years
That's how long I've owned mine.
@@martinbuilt pretty indestructible. My 4 sons also drove it !
Just what I want to do - spend money on a new car and then immediately have to fix it so I don’t die. Nice job Jeep! 😳
It's always something
Thanks for the info man ! How much would you charge for a track bar
My acura mdx has a death wobble...good video...thanks , new subsciber😜👍
very nice work Sir
Thank you
What if the steering wheel bar is the one moving and not the tires ?
Please do. I have learned a lot from watching your channel
Learn but don't use grease on rubber materials it's the main cause for bushing failure, use silicone grease or simply water
@@Airman.. does that apply to polyurethane bushings?
Ole Roy general purpose grease won't attack poly nor stick to it like it should, Silicone Based Lubricant is the best choice since it lowers friction and is completely waterproof, both things you want in a lubricant. Polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) based grease like Super lube or Dow corning does not mix with oil, or any other liquid, it holds silicone lubricant to polyurethane bushings and sleeves very well, making a tough, sticky combination
Thanx for the info. I will apply.