Driving For Multiple Delivery Apps (Step-By-Step Strategy)
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- If you drive for Uber Eats, DoorDash, Postmates or Grubhub did you know you can actually drive for multiple apps at the same time? But just because you can doesn't mean you should, in this video I go over the very best strategy to drive on multiple apps. Want to go deeper on succeeding faster with delivery apps? Sign up for my, "Mastering Delivery" course linked below.
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I run UE & DD at the same time. Pausing one when you get an order on the other is the way to go. I tried to take multiples off both at the same time and although it can be done, I feel like the experience for the customer drops. Their food gets cold, they have to wait longer than they should. Just don't do it, it's not fair to the customer.
Absolutely the customer's experience drops, I don't recommend driving for two apps simultaneously.
UE and DD pay peanuts man. I disagree. If they paid more I would consider doing exclusively one app but otherwise I'll continue to do two at the same time.
Potential solution is to get a great thermal bag to keep it warm for extended period of time and one to keep thing cold for an extended period of time. If you know the area, I think it is doable.
You just need to pause DD because Uber has no late policy. I let customers know how DD has a late policy.
JMO, but I like taking multiple orders if one is 1 1/2 miles or less away. That way I have time to deliver it, as well as the subsequent one.
I love running multiple apps it puts me more in control instead of relying on one .. but yes you’re correct always turn the other one off once you get an trip
Exactly 👊🏻🏦
Do u run both apps when multi apping on 1 phone or separate on 2 phones. Because I know how company's are cracking down on multi apping.
@@esanchez3232 I have 2 phones. It just makes it easier for me that way. : )
Do you just close the app, or do you pause deliveries?
@@esanchez3232 They are? They shouldn't be, we're contractors, they can't stop us from running both.
Really clear, concise and well presented. Thanks mate!
Glad to help 👊🏻
If DoorDash takes you “out of the marketplace” you can end your dash wherever you are and if you are in a separate hot spot zone you can start a dash where you are and hopefully pick up another order. I do that whenever my zones are slow and I need bigger orders to make my daily goal
This is great there are times where it takes about 2 to 3 hrs to get a big order. I do this job full-time now to support myself financially. It's a tough economy
Glad to help 👊🏻
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Really nice video and super clear! Thanks Mike for all of your work. Im learning a lot!
Glad to help Kathleen
Very informative!! Great video
Great video, your tips really help
Glad i watched this video, i learnt it the hard way i did both orders at the same time ended up delivering the second guys order an hour later and he payed extra for priority delivery.
This weekend I begin driving multiple apps. Door dash and Uber eats. I’m all excited
Very helpful thanks!
I’ve delivered for both apps at the same time , I would say it can be risky but nearly all of that can be avoided if a) you know the restaurant your picking up from its very close and quick & b ) both drop offs are very close , knowing your area to a T helps a lot . It’s not super common I do this but sometimes it makes sense .
Thx for this training, it is VERY Helpful.
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Bro this is great thank you so much your an excellent teacher
Thank you Mike!
Bahaha I was screaming at my phone today trying to use multiple apps at once. I kept accepting orders without being able to view them to decide first because the apps were layered over each other in weird spots. My conclusion is that, while I got all the orders in on time, having two navigation apps yelling conflicting info at me was a big nope 🤣🤣 I'm clearly doing this wrong and glad to see a better way.
SUPER helpful. Thank you!
Glad to help Hailey, for an even deeper dive check out the site. I'll also be adding quick start guides and more coming soon 🙌🏻
Door Dash essentially makes u spend your money on gas cause once your done with one order then u have to go so many miles which forces u to get more gas each time. Distance that's an issue vs Uber Eats
As long as the dollars to mile ratio is smart you'll be okay, but it's those dead miles (what I think you're referencing) that eats into net revenue
I started to pay attention to the miles now. I will not do a DD under 10 for 10 or more miles. 10 miles is basically between 20 and 30 mins.
When speaking about dealing with multiple orders on multiple apps simultaneously, that is a technique that I call double-shifting. It is an extremely risky, but exceptionally rewarding technique when mastered. As a disclaimer, getting this right so that all of the customers and apps are completely satisfied is incredibly difficult and I wouldn't recommend it to any driver who is not able to compute distances manually, predict wait times at merchants to within 5 minutes over 95% of the time, and know enough about the road layouts of your market to be able to optimize out most delays.
I look at the timeline. I usually get DD done first because of their late policy.
I've noticed I can do split screen with UE and DD apps and use a Bluetooth mouse to make sure I don't tap anything I don't want to (like accept). It's super helpful.
The problem is that many restaurants are unable to serve meals on time, wasting a lot of time, and stacking orders is sometimes forced. Because we don't have a basic salary, we can only make a few more orders in a limited time. If every restaurant can serve meals on time, then stacking orders will be meaningless, and stacking orders is also very tiring.
This video is for the hustler’s love it
Very helpful! Hey mike can you make a video about the taxes when you’re using both app/multiapping? Thankyou!
Hi Patrick, since I'm not a tax professional or CPA I don't go into taxes too much as I can't legally give you tax advice. Generally I do recommend setting aside 20-30% of your gross revenue for taxes.
I disagree with his method. Accept orders from two different apps at the same time, just make sure they’re going the same direction. I do it all the time and it lets me achieve $30 per hour even when things are slow.
Glad to see you've changed things up Mike well done speaking like a regular human to regular humans I commend you on such a great job
I love how detailed you are and I’m glad that works for you, but that looks wayyyy too confusing and detailed for me. I just put them all on at the same time and whichever one gives me an order that meets my requirements first, I take, turn off the other apps.
Jessica McCaully girl, I do the same too!
Very true, most all of my videos aren't this detailed. This is bonus content for the "Mastering Delivery" course where we go deep into strategy. Thanks for watching Jessica! 🙌🏻
I just left a question on your recent video and this video absolutely explained it. Go offline while delivering another order. 🙂
dont just go for the first order that shows up. first off, if its a bad order, delcline it. no tip? declined. second, wait until almost the very end if to see if the competing app can give you a better deal. honestly, you could probably do both in a.lot of cases, especially late at night.
Thx for the great tips? Do you recommend multiple phone lines or just switching apps on same phone?
You can use the same phone for multi-apping, but I'd recommend getting a separate phone for personal use. Whatever phone you use to multi-app just keep it for business use only.
If your using a mileage tracker do you track each platform separate? If you are doing multiple apps?
Come on with this classroom set up! Trying to get the hang of it but have been messing up lol
Do you suggest only running 2 apps at once? Or can 3 be feesible?
I like multi app with UE- DD and GH
I do 6-8 hrs and mínimum 270 to 430
What is your advice if the order came in together at the same time? Do i need to decline? Pls reply. Thank you very much
Given that I have fulltime classes and commute I am considering doing three apps with DD, UE, and Grubhub to minimize driving time. I gave been doing UE and DD. Also concerned vaccine mandates will flood the market for job dropouts.
Hi do I pause my Doordash app for the 30 minutes when I switch to online with UE? sometimes DD will then end my dash as it's not busy ...
HOw do you use 2 apps on the phone. Do you open them both , and then if an order comes in the one for the order is seen, because you can see both on the same screen at once?
Good rising
How do y'all calculate what you make per hour by active time or dash time? I hear people say if you aren't making 15$ an hour quit but do they mean active time or dash time
Appreciate you
Thanks for watching!
How does it works both apps together is it UberEATS and door dash all in one app or separate apps and you know when you decline one offer like UberEATS the rate goes low is it bad if you don't ecepet one or the other can anyone explain thank you
Mike can a person work for a dsp and flex ?
What's a good phone to multi app? Great video.
Samsung phones are best i have a note 9 and a galaxy S 10+.. they both have split screen
I do DD and you have a time frame you agree to work for so what do you mean turn it off? you cant do that to DD
Amazingly helpful!!!!
Glad to help!
So I messed up doing this the first time. I accepted two orders on both apps. But fortunately they went to the same location but I was almost late for dd. I was stressing the entire time
Mike, thanks for the video, quick question. If you use Doordash, and set to work let's say for two hrs. Can you pause doordash while you take care of another offer from another platform? Aren't you suppose to be available the two hrs for doordash? Learning how to multi app, lol. Thanks
You should absolutely pause while taking another order. Note you only get 30 minutes of pause time on DD though so if using both apps you can really only pause 2-3 times.
@@YourDriverMike thanks a lot for your reply, Mike!
@@SB-oy4xx I'm sorry to say, but Mike is not correct in his method for multi-apping if your goal is to consistently be in the top 1 percent of earners in your delivery market. I know for a fact, many (if not most) drivers either don't have the aptitude and mental agility to multi-app in the most optimal way, or they have the requisite ability but they want their work day to be easy breezy & super laid back.
For most drivers, Mike's method will work out fine. For the highest paid food delivery drivers across the entire country, like myself, we do the exact opposite of what he teaches. We literally never pause the apps. We selectively and strategically take orders from 2 or even 3 apps simultaneously and work out the logistics so that deliveries are on time or early the vast majority of times. We prefer not to for obvious reasons, but if our delivery wisdom and data add up, we'll take orders going in opposite directions on multiple apps at once. We pick-up orders from 4 different restaurants, going to 4 different customers on 2 or 3 apps simultaneously. We're running our apps on 2 or more phones to help us to manage all of the order alerts, notifications, customer communications and last but not least, the delivery logistics. We create our own hacks, for lack of a better term, within each app to squeeze every last dollar per hour possible. We take lots of risks so we can make lots of mistakes, know how far we can push and train ourselves to handle and maximize earnings during times of high order volumes.
If everyone ran this business like I do, low paying offers would largely disappear. That will never happen, so it's a gradual race to the bottom for driver compensation in the form of base pay, peak/surge pay and bonuses. I only forecast the direction tip amounts will go in my own market, but I can generalize in saying that if you're in a market that is fairly mature, tip averages should remain mostly flat if not down a little in the short-term.
A couple long-term variables in a specific market include:
1. An apps ability to successfully recruit new drivers (who have poorer strategies and lack market knowledge. This helps the house, AKA: DD, GH, UE, PM and the customer's win by allowing them to compensate less for the work/time/miles) on a continuous basis.
2. The number of veteran drivers available who still suck at this game and allow the apps and customers to screw them (and thus all drivers in the market) over.
Given enough time and without any outside intervention, the apps and customers will eventually win in a market when the majority of low value offers can be matched with a driver in whatever time frame the app deems a reasonable amount of time. Then Game, Set, Match... that market is toast and likely not even worth your time unless you're fine making a few bucks here and there working very few hours.
I'm going to stop here because I can write books on this stuff lol. For anyone who read this far or skimmed down to the bottom and is wondering why they should give a crap about what I say or worry that taking the path to exceptionalism will only get them deactivated from an app, this year so far I've done over 4,500 deliveries.
On Doordash during the entire shutdown while multi-apping through crazy high periods of volume and more often than not working all day, every day, I maintained a 4.84 or better customer rating. Now that peak pay and order volume is dropping, I currently have a 5.0 customer rating.
I consistently averaged $55-65 per hour. Would have been even higher ($80-100+ per hour) during the highest peak but I was still learning and creating hacks; I did my first delivery only a few days before New Year 2020. I forecast earnings averages to improve during the Fall & Winter, but my averages for working long semi-all-day style shifts right now is only $30-50 per hour. Yes, it's a very wide range as app contributions to compensation and order volume and quality on all the apps has become very volatile and inconsistent. Feel free to comment and ask questions.
Posting this again outside of this thread so it reaches more of the right people who this may help.
@@markppc9991 teach me how to use the force Jedi Mark
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When I get to the last quarter of a mile of my delivery I turn on the other app
That’s a great idea! Thanks!
Do you use two phones?
How do you use 2 apps at once
Question, how can you track miles better when multapps running? Can everlance and gridwise do it?
Stride :)
job communities or job fandoms always feel weird to me. it feels like some sort of elaborate advertising scheme xD
With DD, would you pause it or go offline?
Good question - to clarify we're PAUSING here
How do you pause?
@@christycarter7983 top left hand corner of the app with the three dashes, click that and there’s an option to pause the dash it lets you pause for 30 mins, it should give you enough time !
You can pause over and over?
i mean i would use dd and ue and take 2 orders at once if it is close by obviously not like 20 mins the other way but i would message the 2nd people and tell them i have 2 delivers i will get the food to them asap and i have not got one bad review.
You could do that but that's getting into a tough gray area, either app would tell the customer that you're finishing up another drop off if you had a stacked order.
@@YourDriverMike why are you so worried about the customer knowing you're multi-apping? Just get their food there close to their ETA and you're good. The handful or so times someone has actually said something to me out of thousands of deliveries, I shut them down in ten seconds. I kindly explain to them that in the delivery business, just like ordering from a pizza place, we'll have more than one order to deliver, or whatever I say based on their concern. They don't all know for sure that we're running more than one app and who cares if they do; we're independent contractors. Keep} in mind, the customer and driver apps constantly glitch, so the customer will chalk it up to that if you know what to say and how to talk to them, which is a teachable skill.
I drive where I grew up so it’s easy to know if I’ll be able to deliver to two different customers. GH is awful, IMO, about timing, so I never rush to grab an order, because it’s either not ready or not even started. I hate the waste of time and wish they had their timing correct. Yesterday, I had a DD and a GH, same location. I picked up DD, went to GH order, not done. Said I’ll be right back, delivered DD (5 minutes away) came back, order still being made. I’m glad I used my time wisely.
So if you log off one app when you have a delivery, it won't end your "dash" or "run" session? It just won't give you any new orders?
On DoorDash you can choose to end Dash after the current delivery
@@cliobhabie well...you don't want to end your dash just for a delivery. You an just "pause" it for up to 35 minutes, then resume to go back to dashing. So, don't end your dash after every delivery.
Hmm still not sold on multi apping, only use case I can see is if one is dead go on the other however for me I’ll just stay home I guess it’s sometimes just not worth it
No worries, check out tomorrow's video I'm showcasing what multi-apping actually looks like when driving
I'm starting Uber Eats as soon as I get my Bike. It's tough cause u have to find your hotspots. Customers can make u or break u. If u don't deliver on time then your ratings drop and u could lose the job.
You'll be okay on time, in all the deliveries I've done time never is really an issue as long as you follow the process.
Hey does anyone notice when driving for uber eats they get a ping for lets say 15.00 but when the run is over they on only get paid like half of that amount
I mean you might get tipped a dollar or 2 later in the day but the full amount isn't 15 and I'm driving a good amount of miles too
Uber seems sketch to me sometimes. (Expected tip) so not a guaranteed tip but it’ll show that your getting tipped when your not. There are times where I got my tip 5 days later and it was a $2 tip on a $7 order but when I accepted it said $13
If you are wary of that definitely screenshot to document. Screenshot before the trip and after, if they don't match immediately message Uber support.
If they ask you just say you had another order to do with it as well lol!!
That's what I do but it's not perfect cause some customers know they would see it on their map if you had multiple deliveries on the same platform
I drive for door dash and postmaster in downtown San Diego, didn't Uber eats buy out postulates? When does it go into effect and do you know what it means for a postulates driver if I don't drive for Uber eats?
@Firas Kalaji its good but also lately its being very saturated tbh. I can tell, I am a picky order driver. My acceptance rate is trash lol but everything else great. I do grub hub and door dash though not just one. I reccomend doing more than one especially now
@Firas Kalaji there is a lot of low ball orders and too many drivers at times. And some people are bad tippers. I got a couple of orders yesterday that were late when I barely got them lol. I made 200 subtracting gas yesterday. It was alright, that's mainly grubhub and some door dash
Hi Thomas, nice to see another SD driver. Uber stated for drivers we will see some 'integrations' with both apps while customers will still see each app operating independently of each other. So basically I'm assuming we'll be able to pick up for either app.
@Firas Kalaji I'm either partially la, whittier and the oc areas. Not many big boosts unless I drive farther away from where I live. It can be hit or miss at times. I also got a grubhub extra money boost for doing 5 deliveries and having 80 percent over the weekend. I believe I did around 8 that day. But some of it was waiting and etc, and it slow down a bit. 7 with a break too so I can eat and etc.
@Firas Kalaji I haven't driven much the past two months recently tbh , just here & there after work. If I get a anything good or get me closer home. Just be doing other things and was feeling the vibe different. I do need to get back in routine though.
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Blu 10:35
I think ur wrong about managing
Hi everyone I'm new but yesterday night(Saturday) I decided to End Dash then Dash Now every time DD took me out of zone. I worked 4 different zones 5 switches total. It was fun but more of a learning experience than anything else. Any one else try this? or have good suggestions to maximize being thrown around zones?
That's really interesting, how did it go? Only thing with that is you're constantly switching Peak Pay bonuses (if present).
@@YourDriverMike there wasn't peak pay near me, and it didn't go great because I wanted to Dash all the different zones(compromising $), and the last zone I went would have been best if I was earlier COVID shuts down restaurants here at 11pm currently
It sounds like you're in the learning stage and it is a great idea to test, test, test so you learn your market like the back of your hand. That being said, once you know where you want to work, it is best to deliver in as tight a radius around that spot as you can.
@@markppc9991 do you post videos Mark?
I noticed when you take all orders door dash starts to give you most of the orders because they see you as reliable. This is just my experience
I tried that, until they gave me 3$ orders back to back. Never again
I once had 2DD, 2GH,2 pm all at once lol
Good for cash flow but if that's simultaneous that's not good for customer experience/tips imo
Also don’t know why doordash is making you drive in your scheduled zone because I go all over the place. Sometimes 2-3 zones in one shift no problem.
same, i've only done it a couple days but only one of the many trips out of zone was I offered a delivery from the new zone back to the one I started in, frustrating :(
I've had a few shifts where it would basically adjust and give me new orders in my current zone, not my scheduled zone. Most would show hotspots back in my scheduled zone though
The ability to Dash Now at anytime in any zone is the carrot they dangle in front of us to encourage us to have high acceptance rates and complete all those low value offers for a net huge loss in dollar per hour potential. Top Dasher = DoorDash Simp lol.
They also do that to limit the number of drivers in a particular zone to maximize delivery coverage and not piss us all off because we get 1 order per hour in a busy zone everyone wants to work in. It can also have the effect of discouraging those armchair and commute drivers from taking too many orders away from drivers who get it done day in and day out for them. I know it's hard to believe sometimes but they actually do want to retain drivers despite their numerous actions which do us no favors.
I live in the south. Down here, Doordash is king. Very few people use anything else. In fact, doordash is so popular, that because you can take the red card and grocery shop for people, InstaCart is nonexistent. I tried to get on with Instacart and was told they weren't hiring drivers in my area.
In California usually people would go with Uber for ordering but I know 100% that doordash has a lot more customers and they pay more every time I get on an Uber the bonuses were usually like a dollar or something but on doordash it's adding $2 $3 or even $5 extra In some areas I've never seen that on Uber eats personally from my experiences. The best thing to do with Uber eats is to get the $1000 bonus or however much they're offering I know it was over a 1000 almost $2000 get that and then stop using the app and then switch to doordash 100% or another app at the same time. But he is right about which app might be more popular because that's what I did as well I met a guy here that taught me how to do this and and it really does help I was making $90 to $100 an hour. However I can do the same with doordash.
Whatever's best is whatever has the best quality in your area.. A lot of people like to go with Uber eats but it's not the best route and it's unfortunate that Uber has picked up postmates because now people who were on postmates to deal with Uber b******* I don't recommend either of those apps unless your only using Uber. Uber overall has so many Problems they are very strict and the customers are always impatient. Personally I got away from my other job because I had deal with rude customers all the time and when I got Uber eats I was dealing with that all over again and honestly I'm really glad I got banned because I couldn't deal with that I always have to talk to customers and help them feel better about their day... I don't know something was just always going on! with somebody a little girl Even ordered food to her high school and her high school didn't accept drop off and she had asked me to wait but school was gonna be out after an hour and I had another order to deliver so I was left with no choice to leave it there and she gave me a bad score. When I reported this to Uber they did nothing about it. If this thing was happening with doordash they would instantly remove it from your score. Doordash might have some hiccups but I can tell you right now they are the most fair app to download.