It's good they all had a conversation rather than going back and forth on X...these guys should all come to some type of agreement and bury the hatchet
@@recPokerFish That will never happen because it was GMan who brought it up. He said Luda's play against GT the fish was not suspicious but then pivoted into something else which eventually led them to where they are now.
His seminars on how to invest in property are far sketchier. Look at some of the complaints online. His company applies for new credit cards for the victims then maxes them out paying for this trash.
Why can't the commentary and everyone else have the delayed screen... The live screen being "off" or non existent.... Or even if there's a issue at the table... Someone can go back to the live feed in real time and just look for that one issue and back off it goes. That actually sounds like it should be the right thing to do.
@dawnkeener9836 I don't see any reasonable excuse for having the whole cards live for anyone to see in production. Even a 5 minute delay would prevent cheating or cheating allegations from live cards.
@@Lou-Meatskavitch you have to understand that if they're readable at all (i.e, through a chip in the cards) they can be viewed by ANYONE at any time with access to the RFID reader that interprets the chips. This is the risk of live streams. I miss the old school days where they just had the glass and the players at high stakes games were instructed to keep their hole cards on it so it can be viewed from underneath. Since the stream is delayed anyway, why not just do away with the RFID chipped decks and play old school? Nobody h as access to anyone's hold cards until they are tabled. This obviously takes away the knowledge that someone will have watching the stream of seeing what people fold vs a big bet/bluff. With that knowledge comes the ability to exploit it. IF a stream is going to do this, it is their responsibility to ensure the integrity of the game and not allow ANYONE to view the hold cards during a session.
I can't stand how GA handled the scandal but you're exactly right. Feldman is lying through his teeth and vertucci won't say shit because he knows he's not good at lying lol. Garrett definitely telling the most truth here.
If Ryan admitted they were gay, and he was embarrassed about it . . it would be an incredibly good defense on why he was hiding their being roomates. They both have a ton of cash and would not need roomates
If anyone didn’t believe Garrett’s words before, all you have to do is watch Feldmans tone and responses. I know Garrett is telling the truth just from tone inflection and stumbling by the owners.
Smartest thing Nick could have done other than not had this conversation go down. Nick is a real estate hustler/con artist that made his money from selling real estate courses (think Trump University only worse). Nick knew this was getting bad for them and shut it down before more damage could be don't. I think Nick is scum, but that was the smart move.
Yeah Nick all about the truth until it's truth he doesn't want to hear or have anyone else hear that's for sure. Feldman was prolly signaling Vertucci, "Cut him off NOW!!" He's killing us!!! Bang Ding Ow!!!!
@@andersnielsen6044those who lost to him care. Sexuality no one cares but if your lover can give you hole cards and then you can take the person on a sexcation together thats suspect.
Feldman and only Feldman has access to live hole cards during live streams. And Luda and Feldman lived together for over a year, u all don't think they have some sort of plans to scam others? Hmmmm😮
@@Lou-Meatskavitch i think Ryan didn't mention it because he didn't want anyone to think there was anything going on and ruin the stream dynamic..i don't think they were cheating
That isn't true at all. When the J4 cheating hand went down, it came out that employees in the back have access to the cards. The guy named Bryan Sagbigsal in particular took $5,000 off Robbi's stack (as payment for the inside information allegedly) and then disappeared after that night when the whole cheating scandal blew up.
I wouldn’t say that, he’s just sticking up for his friend. And Garret made the stream look bad by bullying a girl out of money she won. To be guilty it has to be beyond reasonable doubt, and there’s so much doubt idt it’s even close. I like gman tho and wish he played on stream more.
"Bullying" ?!?!?! And you hvae any proof of this as no one there, including her, never made that claim at the time sounds like you are grasping for straws to affirm your cognitive biases without a shred of proof@@santaclause3487
J4 and the events afterwards were so crazy, Garrett is totally right to feel like he was cheated. HCL were more concerned about the shows reputation rather than exposing and eliminating cheating. AA vs 68 wasn't suspicious at all as those flops happen all the time. I've never seen any player who's never played before call an all-in with Jack high on a board like that never mind someone who was buying into a game for thousands of dollars and had a years professional coaching. There's no way she misread her hand considering she checked her role cards and didn't say she misread her straight away. The guy who was sacked for pinching money off her stack knows the truth who apparently wrote a letter of apology using her own unique grammar. Why doesn't HLC ask him and expose the truth of what happened? Trying to damage Garretts reputation isn't going to resolve this situation.
"HCL were more concerned about the shows reputation rather than exposing and eliminating cheating. " Couldn't have said it better myself, it was very obvious from that point onward to anyone who wins money playing poker that something was very, very wrong about that hand; I stopped watching HCL as a result because I could not accept that there was no wrongdoing discovered.
@@skylertaylor7283yes, but just watch carefully what happened exactly, how she said things that were totally incoherent and mutually contradictory, how she behaved the whole time, another player was jumping up and down complaining about her returning the money, and employee "stole" chips from her, ...
Ryan trying to bring up someone was living with Garett is so weak man that is a childish response due to Garett saying Luda was Ryan’s roommate. This is starting to get fishy like why doesn’t Luda play on Fridays 🤔??? He only plays against the seniors is very weird to me how he doesn’t ask to play on Fridays
@@christopheradams9092 are you saying automatic card shuffler are rigged no way jeje I believed they are but what Evers man if garret knows he was cheated I'm sure he has been cheating aswell so when they did it to him now he wants to come out and blow everybody's cover lol
@@sinningiwhat if the automatic shuffling machine is stacking the deck to make seat 4 a looser and seat 9 the winner. Or just letting that seat know that he’s got the winning hand,do not fold your hand!! It could be any small device hidden in the body or in the chair.
lying about what?.. whocares if Luda and him were friends, there are a lot of other compromised things that could happen.. Garret threw Airball, Beans and a lot of people under the bus for no reason in the past that had nothing to do with J4..Gman was off his game those days leading up J4 bluffing with air..he's a good player but should've never taken the money back and talked with Ryan privately after the stream.
When he says it’s not about the money, I have no problem believing it was about the principle for him. Him getting paid the money back is totally vindication in my eyes
That woman is so bad at poker it is laughable. Any 5nl reg has more skill than her, other than one area, which I imagine some of the male regs have bigger. Sometimes people play so horribly it is actually good in that specific situation.
All of them are shady. Gman, Nick V, Ryan, Airball, Luda. All these characters cannot be trusted. Do not trust anyone when it comes to gambling unless that’s a long-time friend you had prior to gambling. Everyone is a snake in the grass 🐍
How is Gman a snake? You can not like his takes, or the whole j4 response, but I have never heard a single person question his integrity at the table. I could give two shits about personality clashes and disagreements. As long as it's straight up when the cards are dealt, that's all that matters. Luda has had tons of accusations thrown at him, and I still haven't heard a convincing answer that nothing is going on.
@@randylahey8207 whilst I agree he seems the best of a bad bunch (hard not to next to the HCL grifters) I really don't trust anyone who shoots down someone else showing messages to prove something. Like if someone was lying about me you're dam straight I would show the messages showing it. This whole honour system whilst I lie and make things up can f right off. Keep your receipts I'll keep mine.
@@randylahey8207the Jewish owner squabbling with his Jewish player. Maybe the G was privy to Ryan and his shadiness and looking at hole cards. There’s obviously something going on with these 2 guys.
@@michaelwillis4532 that's where you're going with this? Even though it's one Jew yelling at another one for scamming him, who's probably sleeping with a guy obviously not Jewish unless it was by mid life transformation? LMAO, you are something else buddy. Keep that brain boiling away, it's full of.... Well....🙄😆😆😆😆
Sadly that's what this latest controversy is doing. Anyone with a brain is going think that HCL is a scam. First off Vertucci and Feldman should not be allowed to play in their own game. Secondly, "roommates" or whatever that means should not be allowed to play in the owners' game. There is something called the "appearance of impropriety".
Ryan and Vertucci are supposed to be successful businessmen. Assuming Nick also knew Luda was Ryan's roommate, how could it not be relevant that this information be shared with vested parties for integrity's sake? The optics alone scream that this fact should prohibit Luda from playing or at the very least, all parties including players should be advised before they commit to play.
Garrett's got a point with Ryan posting about the rating scale. That had nothing to do with the issue at hand. It was just another jab at G-man. Ryan then saying that if Garrett never cared about money why did he ask for the 135k back? Like dude that's pocket change to him. That wasn't the point of the scandal. Ryan's responses have been non-linear and just redirecting the conversation over and over.
Gman has me rated a 1 because I make the straddle bigger not smaller which scares him so I might never get to play him but he's a good player when he's getting lucky and playing people he can push around with a larger chip stack
135k everyone cares about imo, he donated it and took the write off just like it was his cash cuz he didn’t play the rest of the year and he needed it imo.
It's funny, but from someone who has no skin in the game.. I am always finding myself believing Garrett. His point of view is always most logical in all of these scenarios, where drama is popping off..
Same here. I really didn't know much about either of them or the drama but having listened to both sides it's very obvious that Garret is in the right here and the other dude has shit to hide.
Except for the j4 hand. Robbie took a lie detector test n passed. HCL investigated n found nothing. She would need to be in collusion with nick n feldman. Hard to believe.
Holy crap is this for real? Garrett is destroying HCL. Man they should never have crossed him. He knows too much. Garrett demonstrates that Ryan is Luda's roommate!? This makes me question what is going on with HCL. Garrett thank God!
This kind of poker drama is so age old its kind of interstesting that we get to see it unfold in front of our eyes becuase of technology advancements and live streaming poker. People have always been picky about who they play with since poker was invented.
I’m usually never suspicious of players but luda has always pinged my ‘radar’ and it’s when watching HCL. Had an internal “this guy seems off” feeling without ever fully believing it, but this getting brought up has me like hmmm. It’s not so much the hand I find weird it’s Luda’s response to the accusation. If he truly honestly didn’t do anything off, then he wouldn’t have had to stay silent so long before saying anything. He was trying to choose his words wisely imo
You can only make assumptions from past experiences. At underground games the massage girls and ones wearing cat ears are usually in on the scam . They might not know details but they will distract you .
@@AlexDuvallI like 80 proof, it just taste better.😅 The reason is because once a cheater, always a cheater. And a massage girl will give u a happy ending. What will she do for $15,000?
@@INKovari didn't see your comment on whatever video you claim. Anyone who has ever watched a western movie has seen the bar maid or the "entertainment" women are always in on the scam. I've been to high end home games in LA, Miami and New York where they have the servers in skimpy lingerie pouring drinks, sitting on guys laps the whole time giving signals. It's all theatrics so you miss the cheating going on. I'm guessing in this case she's in on it. She's been the masseuse in every hand of his 350k winnings this year
Garrett has been on the shelf forever and it’s SO clear to see his batteries have been charging. 🤣 I’m not an envious person but no fucking way do I want to play poker with him I’d get smoked. I’d gladly go for lunch and have a beer with him though. The dude is living his best life and he’s got so much ammo in his pocket. I love it.
honestly there is alot of shady evidence/circumstances and people surrounding HCL.. and HCL did have an employee stealing chips off of players stacks and so many hands arent read by the card reader graphics? very sketch
All you need to do is watch about 5 minutes of Nick Vertucci and then you’ll see someone unworthy of trust. The dude was a cop,real estate guru and a poker room owner called Hustler run by him and a Jew.
Do you guys remember the LATB where Luda and this guy Harry were in a hand. Luda with a set and Harry with a flush. They got it all in on the turn and agreed to run it twice. When Luda opened his hand. Harry reneged and said he only wanted to run it once, because he could only win one time. It caused a lot of controversy where the show decided to not let the players run it twice. A lot of viewers presumed Harry would be banned, but he was back on the stream a few weeks later. Luda was stand up about the incident, but up until today I had no idea other players wanted him banned from the stream.
do you always go around telling everyone how awesome you think you are? Not a sole cares what you think one way or the other this video is not all about you or your proclaiming your awesomenes... you have zero credibility, zero proof (this coming form someone who does not believe Ryan in the least but yur post is extremely stupid)
Jamie Gold is a weasel. check out his KK against sammy Farhas AA, when jamie thinks he's good he wants to clean sammy out but when he gets suspicious of AA he begs for mercy.
Feldman is not a very smart person when it comes to hiding his shady dealings. GMan seems straight with his questions and Feldman is a child trying to change the subject without answering. Also I'm not a fan of Gman
Feldman also tries to hit back at Garrett saying if he didn't care about money then why try and get it back from Robbi? Well if he did care about that money why donate it all away? Ryan's argument falls flat
It's waste Garrett money that he donated. It literally belongs to Robbie. Case closed. Garrett does have another job. Gambling on poker is his full time job. Nothing works for free. He was attempting to rebuild his image after that accusations of cheating Frisco.
@joey Ingram totally lost contact with Garrett after this phone call, totally disrespectful to not let someone finish speaking, extremely un professional how Nick cut Garrett from speaking.
For those who knows all the things happening about that j4 hands from her calling to that employee stealing her 15k and thinks she’s not cheating, get your brain checked 😢
The thing is, if you’re a smart cheater, you’re not going to make it super obvious like Robbi and Postle did. You’re gonna do it in a way that just looks like a questionable play ends up with you getting lucky. Not saying Luda cheated in that hand, all I’m saying is, there could be a ton of cheaters that no one has ever had any clue about because they were smart about it.
Cheating in live poker can only happen in 1 of 2 ways. Either the cheater has hidden tech that allows him to comm with an inside person or cheater has x-ray vision tech to see through cards. I doubt Robbie used either!
@@timmhonutube I didn’t say “how” she cheated was super obvious. The fact that she “did” cheat was super obvious. You can’t cheat by making absolutely absurd plays that it’d be hard to believe even the best players in the world could ever make. She made these ridiculous plays every now and then. But since that hand? Nothing even in the same universe for her in regards to her play. She now plays like your average 1/2 nit, scared to call even with dominating hands vs complete bluffs. Far cry from calling all in with a J high don’t cha think?
@@OJuggernautO It's not obvious because she didn't cheat. Still zero proof she cheated, more likely she is just a flipping idiot and made a stupid play that worked out.
Here is the thing, Gman suspected Ryan and Luda were colluding at the Bike so he never played with Luda. But he played on other nights and was a big winner. So would it be reasonable for us to assume Gman was the chosen colluder for other nights? That’s why Gman knew he was cheated by Robbie. He was double crossed.
No chance. G man was pretty aggressive toward Feldman and he wouldn’t be if Feldman had dirt on him. It seemed completely one sided and man knows a lot more than Feldman then he said. Feldmans got some skeletons that if g man is pushed enough will expose I believe that
@@Josh-zt1nk if Gman was colluding with Ryan, they will never be able to expose each other without incriminating themselves. Just think about it Gman winning all the time, knowing when he can bluff someone off a weak hand. He does it all the time against good players. Then Robbie’s team comes along and cheats Gman so that’s why he was so shocked cuz he knows how to cheat that game.
I been saying this since forever... dude was in on it.. garret decided he wanted out and spilled the beans I been calling him out glad they haven't blocked me cause I see all the scams it's all on video... garret got out he can't continue cheating they will all get caught eventually so they have to find new recruits... hence... rampage , Mariano or who ever... there could be 5 players playing against a couple of new fishes that they've invited in .. they'll lose a couple of streams just to pretend they are human but eventually will win it all back like really... if not off stream when nobody is watching them...... they can see the whole cards... they're scamming while trying to build a fan base
if garrette still thinks robbie cheated, why doesnt he ever mention the dealer also who dealt the hand? robbie couldnt possibly able to "cheat" without dealers help. the truth is robbie never ever 0% cheated. period. no matter how she played the hand. the fact that garrette cant admit that he made a huge mistake of falsely accusing her of cheating proves he is a bad man. he shouldve just said sorry i made a mistake and given her the money back. end of the story. btw, ppl sometimes lose their minds and dunk off their chips in the stupidest, most illogical ways (as if they are "cheating" or something) in no limit holdem. that is the nature of the beast.
This Garrett guy is needlessly creating drama. I'm sure it sucks to lose his predatory scheme of fleecing fish at the Hustler, but it's time to move on now big man...
If Vertucci is in this conversation Why is he never heard from. The way Hustler has handled things makes it sketchy Latest was allowing players to hit and run on high stakes stream games Players saying management knew they were leaving early Which if true management never told other players HCL pressured Andy to apologize for complaining 🙄 Andy was too Nice Have not seen him there much since I hope he realizes he's got way better options than Hustler HCL is smelling and smelling After this interview Ryan sounds like he's untrustworthy and fake His responses were avoid and distraction. So slimy sounding Trust him if you want and ignore Red Flags Let's see who actually decides to keep playing there.
Gman is lying about not caring about $$..Robbie clearly asked him what will it take to make you stop crying? Gman said give me my money back and she did immediately. Looks like Robbie was the one that doesn't care about money to me!
She cares about not getting in trouble for stealing his money. That dude that was with Robbie got all upset with Garrett because he couldn't get upset with her for giving back their ill gotten gains. That was cheater boy's money. That's why he was so pissed.
Are these spaces archived and can be accessed publicly? There was a while where poker spaces were getting spicey but if i didnt catch them live i have no idea how to find them. I always hoped people would post them to youtube but i never had luck finding them
100% with Garrett here. He knew the instant it happened that he had been rolled. Nothing about it all makes any sense. I won't be making a comeback to the game live or online, just rotten to the core now.
Lol ... back when Feldman was running the Bike, he'd go from commentating and seeing live cards to then hopping into the game and no one said anything.
Probably no cheating happening. Just withholding information that they're roommates so Luda can get in soft lineups while Ryan Probably had a big piece of him
Garett losing his shit saying he doesn’t care about money and HCL dude went on a world tour talking about how he isn’t welcomed to play on any of the streams since the incident after Robbie passed a lie detector test that she didn’t cheat…
Ive always liked garret and didnt really like how he handled the robbi jade thing but you can tell hes extremely smart, fair and honest. Kudos to garrett
Love this post Alex thanks for the content. I feel Garrett was good in all his points and Feldman sounded like he was hiding something. Sad cause i miss playing on streams but because of the cheating risk, not worth it. God bless.
Feldman stumbling over his words in the spaces isn’t a good look
Completely agree. Feldman was not a good witness.
Feldman is a known money hungry weasel. I hope he gets exposed for the illegal app games he ran and made 100s of thousands from.
It's good they all had a conversation rather than going back and forth on X...these guys should all come to some type of agreement and bury the hatchet
@@recPokerFish That will never happen because it was GMan who brought it up. He said Luda's play against GT the fish was not suspicious but then pivoted into something else which eventually led them to where they are now.
@@ITube4RealFunyea. He shouldn’t have brought it up, but sounds like he was sticking up for his friend Luda so makes some sense.
Vertucci is an absolute dump . Relevant or not
Discussing how shit of a person Vertucci is will always be relevant
Agree
Vertucci being a scumbag is always relevant.
total slime ball.
His daughter is total smoke tho haha ☠️
Vertucci is a former cop now gambling gameshow owner. Couldn't be more sketch than that lol
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His seminars on how to invest in property are far sketchier. Look at some of the complaints online. His company applies for new credit cards for the victims then maxes them out paying for this trash.
This aged well
I agreed w Berkey, Feldman should not have access to hole cards during live streams
HCL hates Berkey for being right. It's crazy that HCL defends themselves for having live whole cards available to them.
Why can't the commentary and everyone else have the delayed screen... The live screen being "off" or non existent.... Or even if there's a issue at the table... Someone can go back to the live feed in real time and just look for that one issue and back off it goes. That actually sounds like it should be the right thing to do.
@dawnkeener9836 I don't see any reasonable excuse for having the whole cards live for anyone to see in production. Even a 5 minute delay would prevent cheating or cheating allegations from live cards.
@@Lou-Meatskavitch you have to understand that if they're readable at all (i.e, through a chip in the cards) they can be viewed by ANYONE at any time with access to the RFID reader that interprets the chips. This is the risk of live streams. I miss the old school days where they just had the glass and the players at high stakes games were instructed to keep their hole cards on it so it can be viewed from underneath.
Since the stream is delayed anyway, why not just do away with the RFID chipped decks and play old school? Nobody h as access to anyone's hold cards until they are tabled. This obviously takes away the knowledge that someone will have watching the stream of seeing what people fold vs a big bet/bluff. With that knowledge comes the ability to exploit it. IF a stream is going to do this, it is their responsibility to ensure the integrity of the game and not allow ANYONE to view the hold cards during a session.
sounds reasonable . @@brianpotter2812
Gman sounds the most honest.
I can't stand how GA handled the scandal but you're exactly right. Feldman is lying through his teeth and vertucci won't say shit because he knows he's not good at lying lol. Garrett definitely telling the most truth here.
its pretty obvious
Gman is dropping bombs and Ryan keeps flapping 😂😂😂
Let’s be real, Ryan Feldman is a weasel who should not be trusted…
You mean the sort that would collude with a roommate?
thank you for summing everything up for us, really appreciate it
If Ryan admitted they were gay, and he was embarrassed about it . . it would be an incredibly good defense on why he was hiding their being roomates. They both have a ton of cash and would not need roomates
Grab the popcorn! We might do a video on this soon
Lol
GMan is supposedly married (to a woman!) but he always seems as gay as a leather posing pouch.
Luda and Ryan lived together secretly which is already shady
super shady
TLDR: Feldman and Luda Chris are gay lovers
Ever since they kicked Garrett off hcl I unsubbed and stopped watching their streams
They don't need you 😂
Garrett is the new Elon musk all these fanboys
@@teecee4459 nobody said they did ! why are you implying he said that hcl needed him when he didnt ?
same, its a bad stream, too many bad layers, LATB was way better back in the day
@@kalb.3002 your not a fan of garretts ?? why not surely you know he is a really good player ? who wouldvt be a fan if they like poker ?
If anyone didn’t believe Garrett’s words before, all you have to do is watch Feldmans tone and responses. I know Garrett is telling the truth just from tone inflection and stumbling by the owners.
Wow nick vertucci cutting off the call was rude af that’s it!!!
Smartest thing Nick could have done other than not had this conversation go down. Nick is a real estate hustler/con artist that made his money from selling real estate courses (think Trump University only worse). Nick knew this was getting bad for them and shut it down before more damage could be don't. I think Nick is scum, but that was the smart move.
Yeah Nick all about the truth until it's truth he doesn't want to hear or have anyone else hear that's for sure. Feldman was prolly signaling Vertucci, "Cut him off NOW!!" He's killing us!!! Bang Ding Ow!!!!
Sounds like there's more to Luda being a "room mate" of Ryan Feldman, sounds like they were in an intimate relationship....
who cares??
@@andersnielsen6044those who lost to him care. Sexuality no one cares but if your lover can give you hole cards and then you can take the person on a sexcation together thats suspect.
‘At minimum very close friends. At maximum, balls deep.’ 😂
@@paulpascoe663 So no elbow-deep fi*ting here?
Good lord, that is a rough mental image.
Feldman and only Feldman has access to live hole cards during live streams. And Luda and Feldman lived together for over a year, u all don't think they have some sort of plans to scam others? Hmmmm😮
not likely because those things always come to light and the amount of money wouldn't be worth it..
I don't think so...
Feldman may be a bitch, but he is not stupid.
He knows that game integrity is the most important aspect to most of his business.
@@michaeledwards1644wasn't Luda up over half a million on those streams? I don't know what you consider being worth it, but that's a lot of money.
@@Lou-Meatskavitch i think Ryan didn't mention it because he didn't want anyone to think there was anything going on and ruin the stream dynamic..i don't think they were cheating
That isn't true at all. When the J4 cheating hand went down, it came out that employees in the back have access to the cards. The guy named Bryan Sagbigsal in particular took $5,000 off Robbi's stack (as payment for the inside information allegedly) and then disappeared after that night when the whole cheating scandal blew up.
The fact that Ryan stated himself that he made sure never to invite GMan to game Luda was playing in…. is making my imagination go wild right now 😮
damn feldman is a snake
U don't know crap!
I wouldn’t say that, he’s just sticking up for his friend. And Garret made the stream look bad by bullying a girl out of money she won. To be guilty it has to be beyond reasonable doubt, and there’s so much doubt idt it’s even close. I like gman tho and wish he played on stream more.
@@santaclause3487Dude, it was exactly beyond reasonable doubt. And Ryan helped Garrett get that money. And it wasn't bullying. Jfc
"Bullying" ?!?!?! And you hvae any proof of this as no one there, including her, never made that claim at the time sounds like you are grasping for straws to affirm your cognitive biases without a shred of proof@@santaclause3487
@@santaclause3487Watch the footage back. Watch her chair. Go frame by frame. Then come back.
J4 and the events afterwards were so crazy, Garrett is totally right to feel like he was cheated. HCL were more concerned about the shows reputation rather than exposing and eliminating cheating. AA vs 68 wasn't suspicious at all as those flops happen all the time. I've never seen any player who's never played before call an all-in with Jack high on a board like that never mind someone who was buying into a game for thousands of dollars and had a years professional coaching. There's no way she misread her hand considering she checked her role cards and didn't say she misread her straight away. The guy who was sacked for pinching money off her stack knows the truth who apparently wrote a letter of apology using her own unique grammar. Why doesn't HLC ask him and expose the truth of what happened? Trying to damage Garretts reputation isn't going to resolve this situation.
"HCL were more concerned about the shows reputation rather than exposing and eliminating cheating. " Couldn't have said it better myself, it was very obvious from that point onward to anyone who wins money playing poker that something was very, very wrong about that hand; I stopped watching HCL as a result because I could not accept that there was no wrongdoing discovered.
There was nothing "unique" about the grammar. That has been one of the most ridiculous claims in this saga.
Garrett found Bryan and didn't publicize it... and nobody asks him about it... wonder why?
Bad plays happen all the time
@@skylertaylor7283yes, but just watch carefully what happened exactly, how she said things that were totally incoherent and mutually contradictory, how she behaved the whole time, another player was jumping up and down complaining about her returning the money, and employee "stole" chips from her, ...
Gman has maintained integrity amongst these wolves in sheep’s clothing.
lol, how's his teabag tasting?
@@blingman78 lol
Garrett is a coward
Ryan trying to bring up someone was living with Garett is so weak man that is a childish response due to Garett saying Luda was Ryan’s roommate. This is starting to get fishy like why doesn’t Luda play on Fridays 🤔??? He only plays against the seniors is very weird to me how he doesn’t ask to play on Fridays
Luda doesn't want to play 100 100 200 - it's too deep - what's the issue with that ??
@@martinworld7214he doesn't want to play 100 200 yet gets involved in 120k pots? Stfu and gtfo
Maybe Ryan has other ringers on Friday. Gman was one of,them, then he got double crossed by the Robbie team.
@@TD-yj8chI like the way you think. Ryan and Garrett are both of the same religion that’s all about the money.
@@michaelwillis4532 careful, those same people control media, u might get banned.
HCL is shady..J4 hand was cheating....much love and respect for Garrett. Hope his family is good
If garret catches his cards and wins nobody would have lift n eyebrow
@@aguilas1999pretty sure the whole point is that allegedly they knew he wasn’t going to….
@@christopheradams9092 are you saying automatic card shuffler are rigged no way jeje I believed they are but what Evers man if garret knows he was cheated I'm sure he has been cheating aswell so when they did it to him now he wants to come out and blow everybody's cover lol
Hcl can never admit any wrong doing. It would completely destroy their stream. I don’t think Luda was cheating on the hand in question.
No believes he was cheating, it was the Garrett bashing that made a mountain out of a mole hole.
@@TheFailedmessiahno one? Literally the direct person in the hand thought he was. So the first person to be asked thought so.
What If there was a deck below table ready to scam the players.
@@sinningiwhat if the automatic shuffling machine is stacking the deck to make seat 4 a looser and seat 9 the winner.
Or just letting that seat know that he’s got the winning hand,do not fold your hand!!
It could be any small device hidden in the body or in the chair.
Unless the deck was stacked, he probably wasn't cheating in that hand. No need to. It was a cooler.
Feldman's very childish
Just like G-man
Ryan sounds guilty af
Ryan Feldman sounded like he was lying when speaking. Very stumbly over his words. I believe Garrett 100%
Idk I’ve been stumbly over my words plenty. Doesn’t mean he’s lying
I thought ryan sounded sus af
@@AlexDuvallyou obviously never took psychology. And if you do stumble words that’s embarrassing take speech class
lying about what?.. whocares if Luda and him were friends, there are a lot of other compromised things that could happen.. Garret threw Airball, Beans and a lot of people under the bus for no reason in the past that had nothing to do with J4..Gman was off his game those days leading up J4 bluffing with air..he's a good player but should've never taken the money back and talked with Ryan privately after the stream.
sounded like Feldman was being careful with his words , didn't want paint something into the picture he can't take back
So much juicy drama here, it’s popcorn worthy. Great job summarizing all of this for us, Alex, much appreciated!
When he says it’s not about the money, I have no problem believing it was about the principle for him. Him getting paid the money back is totally vindication in my eyes
That woman is so bad at poker it is laughable.
Any 5nl reg has more skill than her, other than one area, which I imagine some of the male regs have bigger.
Sometimes people play so horribly it is actually good in that specific situation.
All of them are shady. Gman, Nick V, Ryan, Airball, Luda. All these characters cannot be trusted. Do not trust anyone when it comes to gambling unless that’s a long-time friend you had prior to gambling. Everyone is a snake in the grass 🐍
How is Gman a snake? You can not like his takes, or the whole j4 response, but I have never heard a single person question his integrity at the table. I could give two shits about personality clashes and disagreements. As long as it's straight up when the cards are dealt, that's all that matters. Luda has had tons of accusations thrown at him, and I still haven't heard a convincing answer that nothing is going on.
@@randylahey8207 whilst I agree he seems the best of a bad bunch (hard not to next to the HCL grifters) I really don't trust anyone who shoots down someone else showing messages to prove something. Like if someone was lying about me you're dam straight I would show the messages showing it. This whole honour system whilst I lie and make things up can f right off. Keep your receipts I'll keep mine.
@@randylahey8207the Jewish owner squabbling with his Jewish player. Maybe the G was privy to Ryan and his shadiness and looking at hole cards. There’s obviously something going on with these 2 guys.
@@michaelwillis4532 that's where you're going with this? Even though it's one Jew yelling at another one for scamming him, who's probably sleeping with a guy obviously not Jewish unless it was by mid life transformation? LMAO, you are something else buddy. Keep that brain boiling away, it's full of.... Well....🙄😆😆😆😆
Sadly that's what this latest controversy is doing. Anyone with a brain is going think that HCL is a scam. First off Vertucci and Feldman should not be allowed to play in their own game. Secondly, "roommates" or whatever that means should not be allowed to play in the owners' game. There is something called the "appearance of impropriety".
nick’s cut off was a dick move, but that’s what he is. ryan is scummy as it gets. so what are the allegations against luda and the ban at the bike?
“What a brilliant comeback” WHAT a way to end it!!! Garret just made my Day
Ryan and Vertucci are supposed to be successful businessmen. Assuming Nick also knew Luda was Ryan's roommate, how could it not be relevant that this information be shared with vested parties for integrity's sake? The optics alone scream that this fact should prohibit Luda from playing or at the very least, all parties including players should be advised before they commit to play.
Garrett's got a point with Ryan posting about the rating scale. That had nothing to do with the issue at hand. It was just another jab at G-man. Ryan then saying that if Garrett never cared about money why did he ask for the 135k back? Like dude that's pocket change to him. That wasn't the point of the scandal. Ryan's responses have been non-linear and just redirecting the conversation over and over.
Gman has me rated a 1 because I make the straddle bigger not smaller which scares him so I might never get to play him but he's a good player when he's getting lucky and playing people he can push around with a larger chip stack
135k everyone cares about imo, he donated it and took the write off just like it was his cash cuz he didn’t play the rest of the year and he needed it imo.
@@michaeledwards1644Same
@@michaeledwards1644lmao. Good one
@@missvickimae1150u don't have a clue how rich people donating really works. You must be a poor.
Garrett was smart to point out some of the weasel words Feldman was using. "At first" you could tell he was not telling the whole truth.
It's funny, but from someone who has no skin in the game.. I am always finding myself believing Garrett. His point of view is always most logical in all of these scenarios, where drama is popping off..
Ya… I’m usually a great judge of character and Garrett just seems like a unapologetic honest guy
Nah he sounds like a bitter ex
@@gregorygiles6430unapologetic *baby
Same here. I really didn't know much about either of them or the drama but having listened to both sides it's very obvious that Garret is in the right here and the other dude has shit to hide.
Except for the j4 hand. Robbie took a lie detector test n passed. HCL investigated n found nothing. She would need to be in collusion with nick n feldman. Hard to believe.
Holy crap is this for real? Garrett is destroying HCL. Man they should never have crossed him. He knows too much. Garrett demonstrates that Ryan is Luda's roommate!? This makes me question what is going on with HCL. Garrett thank God!
This kind of poker drama is so age old its kind of interstesting that we get to see it unfold in front of our eyes becuase of technology advancements and live streaming poker. People have always been picky about who they play with since poker was invented.
Alex, Great channel. I really enjoy your commentary on current events in the poker circles. Keep up the good work! Jim
I’m usually never suspicious of players but luda has always pinged my ‘radar’ and it’s when watching HCL. Had an internal “this guy seems off” feeling without ever fully believing it, but this getting brought up has me like hmmm. It’s not so much the hand I find weird it’s Luda’s response to the accusation. If he truly honestly didn’t do anything off, then he wouldn’t have had to stay silent so long before saying anything. He was trying to choose his words wisely imo
Luda agreed to be searched because the signals are coming from the massage woman.
What’s your proof?
You copied my comment from his last vid. 0/10
You can only make assumptions from past experiences. At underground games the massage girls and ones wearing cat ears are usually in on the scam . They might not know details but they will distract you .
@@AlexDuvallI like 80 proof, it just taste better.😅 The reason is because once a cheater, always a cheater. And a massage girl will give u a happy ending. What will she do for $15,000?
@@INKovari didn't see your comment on whatever video you claim. Anyone who has ever watched a western movie has seen the bar maid or the "entertainment" women are always in on the scam. I've been to high end home games in LA, Miami and New York where they have the servers in skimpy lingerie pouring drinks, sitting on guys laps the whole time giving signals. It's all theatrics so you miss the cheating going on. I'm guessing in this case she's in on it. She's been the masseuse in every hand of his 350k winnings this year
Seems to me that Feldman is full of S**t, stumbled over his words and trying to weasel out of the tough questions.
1000% Robbie cheated with the help of “others”
Thanks Alex for your detailed breakdowns as always!
Garrett has been on the shelf forever and it’s SO clear to see his batteries have been charging. 🤣 I’m not an envious person but no fucking way do I want to play poker with him I’d get smoked. I’d gladly go for lunch and have a beer with him though. The dude is living his best life and he’s got so much ammo in his pocket. I love it.
Yeah, Garrett is definitely the real deal.
He's ripped, good looking, definitely somebody you would want to be thrown around by, maybe handcuffed...
He;s good but i'd play against him, just very cautiuosly, he's also a lucksac.
nice to see so many people like yourself are so clueless about poker and supposed "luck"@@paul-u2y9y
Luda and Ryan are snakes. Meanwhile DP-ing Robbi like a mad man
They are all dirty jewels in my eyes. Including garret
honestly there is alot of shady evidence/circumstances and people surrounding HCL.. and HCL did have an employee stealing chips off of players stacks and so many hands arent read by the card reader graphics? very sketch
All you need to do is watch about 5 minutes of Nick Vertucci and then you’ll see someone unworthy of trust.
The dude was a cop,real estate guru and a poker room owner called Hustler run by him and a Jew.
@@michaelwillis4532nick v and feldman DONT OwN the poker room....just the stream.. jeez
a cop?, really?, wow !, that's suspect as hell ! @@michaelwillis4532
@@michaelwillis4532ex cop aswell, dirty man
Garretts a professional player. I actually think that's a pretty intuitive way to log for game selection
Do you guys remember the LATB where Luda and this guy Harry were in a hand. Luda with a set and Harry with a flush. They got it all in on the turn and agreed to run it twice. When Luda opened his hand. Harry reneged and said he only wanted to run it once, because he could only win one time. It caused a lot of controversy where the show decided to not let the players run it twice. A lot of viewers presumed Harry would be banned, but he was back on the stream a few weeks later. Luda was stand up about the incident, but up until today I had no idea other players wanted him banned from the stream.
I love G. Standing strong with the one who brought us all together ✊🏼
If Gman suspected Ryan colluding with players way back at the Bike, why would he play at HCL…unless he was the chosen one…until he wasn’t anymore
Easy money, baby
The games are good
Right off the bat, I can tell Ryan is lying
do you always go around telling everyone how awesome you think you are? Not a sole cares what you think one way or the other this video is not all about you or your proclaiming your awesomenes... you have zero credibility, zero proof (this coming form someone who does not believe Ryan in the least but yur post is extremely stupid)
I wonder what Jaimie Gold thinks…
Jamie Gold is a weasel. check out his KK against sammy Farhas AA, when jamie thinks he's good he wants to clean sammy out but when he gets suspicious of AA he begs for mercy.
LOL
Ryan’s a shade-ball Jesus Christ lmao
Feldman is not a very smart person when it comes to hiding his shady dealings. GMan seems straight with his questions and Feldman is a child trying to change the subject without answering. Also I'm not a fan of Gman
Feldman also tries to hit back at Garrett saying if he didn't care about money then why try and get it back from Robbi? Well if he did care about that money why donate it all away? Ryan's argument falls flat
It's waste Garrett money that he donated. It literally belongs to Robbie. Case closed. Garrett does have another job. Gambling on poker is his full time job. Nothing works for free. He was attempting to rebuild his image after that accusations of cheating Frisco.
That entire donation is a write off it went to charity so pretty much like his cash imo….
@joey Ingram totally lost contact with Garrett after this phone call, totally disrespectful to not let someone finish speaking, extremely un professional how Nick cut Garrett from speaking.
When roomies room together who don't financially need to room together that's normally referred to as butt-buddies.
Garrett: "I don't care about money!!!" because you have it. easy to not care when you are rich
Not a good look for anyone tbh. If i was around this poker scene, I wouldn't get involved with any of these people.
For those who knows all the things happening about that j4 hands from her calling to that employee stealing her 15k and thinks she’s not cheating, get your brain checked 😢
Business, friends, poker. They don't mix well. Never have, never will. Combine them however you like and you’ll be unhappy with the end result.
just shorten it to money.
GARRETT destroyed him on this xspace! WOW! HUGE W for Garrett!
The thing is, if you’re a smart cheater, you’re not going to make it super obvious like Robbi and Postle did. You’re gonna do it in a way that just looks like a questionable play ends up with you getting lucky. Not saying Luda cheated in that hand, all I’m saying is, there could be a ton of cheaters that no one has ever had any clue about because they were smart about it.
Cheating in live poker can only happen in 1 of 2 ways. Either the cheater has hidden tech that allows him to comm with an inside person or cheater has x-ray vision tech to see through cards. I doubt Robbie used either!
If Robbie was super obvious...how exactly did she cheat?
@@timmhonutube I didn’t say “how” she cheated was super obvious. The fact that she “did” cheat was super obvious. You can’t cheat by making absolutely absurd plays that it’d be hard to believe even the best players in the world could ever make. She made these ridiculous plays every now and then. But since that hand? Nothing even in the same universe for her in regards to her play. She now plays like your average 1/2 nit, scared to call even with dominating hands vs complete bluffs. Far cry from calling all in with a J high don’t cha think?
@@timmhonutube Robbie wore a lush. That's why the chair was vibrating during those questionable decisions.
@@OJuggernautO It's not obvious because she didn't cheat. Still zero proof she cheated, more likely she is just a flipping idiot and made a stupid play that worked out.
Here is the thing, Gman suspected Ryan and Luda were colluding at the Bike so he never played with Luda. But he played on other nights and was a big winner. So would it be reasonable for us to assume Gman was the chosen colluder for other nights? That’s why Gman knew he was cheated by Robbie. He was double crossed.
No chance. G man was pretty aggressive toward Feldman and he wouldn’t be if Feldman had dirt on him. It seemed completely one sided and man knows a lot more than Feldman then he said. Feldmans got some skeletons that if g man is pushed enough will expose I believe that
@@Josh-zt1nk if Gman was colluding with Ryan, they will never be able to expose each other without incriminating themselves. Just think about it Gman winning all the time, knowing when he can bluff someone off a weak hand. He does it all the time against good players. Then Robbie’s team comes along and cheats Gman so that’s why he was so shocked cuz he knows how to cheat that game.
I been saying this since forever... dude was in on it.. garret decided he wanted out and spilled the beans I been calling him out glad they haven't blocked me cause I see all the scams it's all on video... garret got out he can't continue cheating they will all get caught eventually so they have to find new recruits... hence... rampage , Mariano or who ever... there could be 5 players playing against a couple of new fishes that they've invited in .. they'll lose a couple of streams just to pretend they are human but eventually will win it all back like really... if not off stream when nobody is watching them...... they can see the whole cards... they're scamming while trying to build a fan base
GMan sounds VERY compelling in his arguments here, if he is lying then he is the best liar I have ever heard.
I hope HCL fall apart. Toonmany shady ppl like Ryand Feldman/Nit Nick. These guys are terrible 😮😮
Fr the actual casinos is shady n scummy af. Including the bike. Remember the bike got raided for money laundering back then. Never go there.
@webguy943 yep most poker players are scummy. Sooner or later they get caught for some sorta scam. Gal/Japanese guy/aussie matt/j4
The conversation went exactly how I pictured it would go
The weasel and the straight shooter
If I was in this game there is no way that I would allow a massage during the game.
The massage lady is in on it. She be massaging moss code on to Luda the whole cards the whole time.
"Airball 12.5" LOL!
Seems Ryan is quite adept at talking out of both sides of his mouth!
Thanks for the vid. What a wild situation. HCL seems so cringe. So glad I stopped watching. Feel bad for Garrett getting sucked back into the cesspool
"God rest mark". "Oh actually mark was on my side" LMAO
Feldman, vertucci, Luda, mikki, throw Dwan in there too- they’re all slimy AF and if you can’t see through them you’re a first class 🤡
if garrette still thinks robbie cheated, why doesnt he ever mention the dealer also who dealt the hand? robbie couldnt possibly able to "cheat" without dealers help. the truth is robbie never ever 0% cheated. period. no matter how she played the hand. the fact that garrette cant admit that he made a huge mistake of falsely accusing her of cheating proves he is a bad man. he shouldve just said sorry i made a mistake and given her the money back. end of the story. btw, ppl sometimes lose their minds and dunk off their chips in the stupidest, most illogical ways (as if they are "cheating" or something) in no limit holdem. that is the nature of the beast.
This Garrett guy is needlessly creating drama. I'm sure it sucks to lose his predatory scheme of fleecing fish at the Hustler, but it's time to move on now big man...
Luda and Ryan lived together, many people don’t know
If Vertucci is in this conversation
Why is he never heard from.
The way Hustler has handled things makes it sketchy
Latest was allowing players to hit and run on high stakes stream games
Players saying management knew they were leaving early
Which if true management never told other players
HCL pressured Andy to apologize for complaining 🙄
Andy was too Nice
Have not seen him there much since
I hope he realizes he's got way better options than Hustler
HCL is smelling and smelling
After this interview
Ryan sounds like he's untrustworthy and fake
His responses were avoid and distraction.
So slimy sounding
Trust him if you want and ignore Red Flags
Let's see who actually decides to keep playing there.
LATB isn't worth watching anymore. I see Ryan and Luda are sleeping together. Go, Garrett...
I just love how Garrett spits out blocks of well written text while the other guys find a challenge in a few sentences :)))
That show at the Bike is garbage now and more than likely a cheat fest for Vertucci and Ryan._
Gman is lying about not caring about $$..Robbie clearly asked him what will it take to make you stop crying? Gman said give me my money back and she did immediately. Looks like Robbie was the one that doesn't care about money to me!
She cares about not getting in trouble for stealing his money. That dude that was with Robbie got all upset with Garrett because he couldn't get upset with her for giving back their ill gotten gains. That was cheater boy's money. That's why he was so pissed.
dude she ain't gonna bang you, sorry :/
Boom mic drop
@@Brian-xp3uyhush,Garrett isn’t gonna be your friend
@@Brian-xp3uy Zero proof she cheated. You're just like Garrett, making shit up trying to sound self-righteous with no evidence.
Are these spaces archived and can be accessed publicly? There was a while where poker spaces were getting spicey but if i didnt catch them live i have no idea how to find them. I always hoped people would post them to youtube but i never had luck finding them
Feldman sounds like a lawyer. Uh I don't recall 😂
He and Vertucci are a pair
Garrett was cheated and HCL is a slum.
100% with Garrett here. He knew the instant it happened that he had been rolled. Nothing about it all makes any sense. I won't be making a comeback to the game live or online, just rotten to the core now.
Lol ... back when Feldman was running the Bike, he'd go from commentating and seeing live cards to then hopping into the game and no one said anything.
Probably no cheating happening. Just withholding information that they're roommates so Luda can get in soft lineups while Ryan Probably had a big piece of him
Yes a big piece of him for sure.
@@PoppysGuitar #nohomo
@@PoppysGuitar thunder stealer!, that was my joke.
Garett losing his shit saying he doesn’t care about money and HCL dude went on a world tour talking about how he isn’t welcomed to play on any of the streams since the incident after Robbie passed a lie detector test that she didn’t cheat…
What a dumpster fire of a show. Surprised HCL is still going. It’s only gone downhill and so much sketchiness surrounding it.
Great coverage and well done. Thanks.
You can tell Vertucci was getting a creepy massage during the group chat.... 😂😂
Im with Gman on this. Period.
Ive always liked garret and didnt really like how he handled the robbi jade thing but you can tell hes extremely smart, fair and honest. Kudos to garrett
LATB didn't ban Luda just like HCL didn't ban Gman.
Someone playing differently on stream than in non stream games makes sense, actually. People would make moves based on your stream play.
Garrett sure does have an awful lot to say for someone who “doesn’t give a shit”
Cliffs: Luda might be a cheater
The player I enjoyed most watching in high stake cash games is Gman. I would trust him over all the rest, Nick, Ryan, Airball, Luda, ...
Love this post Alex thanks for the content. I feel Garrett was good in all his points and Feldman sounded like he was hiding something. Sad cause i miss playing on streams but because of the cheating risk, not worth it. God bless.
Solid reporting!! My new favorite channel