Aight, intervention time! We're gonna need y'all to jump over to THIS video before commenting on the intake vs exhaust situation thanks... ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html
what if you want to install an oversized radiator on your water cooler? Mine is always HOT (the air coming off) like uncomfortably so, on my rizen 9 running warships on max settings. Id love to put a larger one on maybe the exterior.
The guy is right that still there will be fresh cool air cooling the radiator BUT the huge problem you are creating is blowing super hot air from the radiator inside the case instead of out. Your setup makes sense only in the cooler is installed at the bottom of the case and there are still fans at the top blowing out.
Wow you spent 5 seconds showing us how to cable it all up. I have this product and it is a nightmare to connect up. How about show us how to connect it thoroughly.
Top tip...when laying the PC flat, don't lay it on top of the cables that provide power to the fans! Crushing cables can severely degrade the conductor and worse, the insulation. And no, this isn't a dig at the lass doing the video, it's just a point I wanted to make.
"Seems" like a good tutorial but the fans they put on the radiator are not installed properly... they should be facing the inside of the case so the air is getting pulled out of the case. In that case, they destroyed the airflow cause now air is getting in the case by the top too
I'm to broke to even begin to think about buying a full desktop PC do idk why I even watch the tutorials but I still do. Guess it's a show of quality of Sarah's narration and amazing editing that went into this. Pretty epic.
I notice that when I put a the watercooler on my CPU, the preapplied thermal paste isn't as cool as adding your own, at least for me I see a 5-10°C difference in thermal temps.
Hey there! Might be too late, but you'd not if it wasnt tight enough if your PC doesnt end up making all the way through to the home screen past booting OR if it turns off shortly after loading up windows as your CPU without any cooling should have your motherboard turn itself off for safety. If this happens, don't stress too much, just go back and tighten the screws a little more. You also can't really tighten too much unless you thread the screws.
@@thomascoppage2310 Nope, I have returned it because it was still on guarantee, when I received back a new one I sold it because I bought a DeepCool Castle 360mm in the meanwhile.
Hi. The RGB connector from the pump is the 5v 3 pin? Or is a proprietary connection too? Do they include some sort of adaptor from the proprietary to 3pin 5v for the pump?
Years of having this aio. I'm so fed up with such a product. A few months ago, it even broke the plastic brackets holding the backplate. Never use a system like you did for the AM4 part every again. Just do old-fashioned 4 screws hold it down. I wish I could get a new product to replace this one currently.
I have a motherboard aorus ultra gaming z370, I would like to know where I connect the pump connector? cpu opt? or sys fan Pump? and the fans call any sys fan? or cpu fan and opt fan?
Is nobody going to point out that the fans on the radiator are installed the wrong way for push/pull system of the case? The fan in the video is set up to be pulling in air from the top rather than push out. While this isn't a problem without an AIO cooler, the problem is the radiator. The radiator generating too much heat from the CPU and pulling those heat inward toward your GPU will make your GPU temp rise like crazy and function terribly. If the fan and radiator are installed on top of the case then the regular push/pull set-up needs to be used by pulling in cool air from the front and pushing out hot air from the back and top. Or, am I wrong?
Well, you're right with "radiator generating too much heat from the CPU", but that's one part of the story. A quick answer - Whatever the GPU be, if your system is running on base clock then it doesn't matter which direction the rad fans are, you're good to go! But if it's running overclocked then - It basically depends upon what sort of GPU one is using and, of course, personal preferences (even the video mentions that @1:00. Blower style GPUs generally don't show a drastic change in temperatures regardless to the CPU overclocking, but that being said, it'll heat up just a tiny bit because of the lack of fans on it. The difference between temperatures in pre/post overclocking is very subtle. The real difference can be seen while using an open GPU. If it's a high-end open style GPU i.e with a shroud having multiple fans on it, like the ones Asus has in their Strix series (3 fans), then the rad fans pulling the air inside the chassis ain't gonna make any difference to the GPU temperature as those additional GPU fans are quite enough to keep it cooled and flush off all the excess heat of the radiator. It's only gonna reduce the CPU temperatures as it'll suck in all the cool ambient air. But if it's an entry level or a mid range GPU, having a single fan shroud, then it'll heat up significantly. There's very little one can do bout it than to change the rad fans direction. One thing that can be done other than changing the rad's direction is, mount that GPU vertically if a vertical mount option is available for that particular Chassis. But then that's also not gonna help a lot and that's where you are on point and right. The other way, if a PC is overclocked, is having a high end open style GPU and an AiO installed in the "traditional way" i.e pushing the air outward, it's just gonna add to the CPU temperature by some substantially amount as the rad fans are also gonna pull all the additional heat released by the GPU and then throw it on to the radiator, making the cooled liquid slightly warm again. That's where your suggestion to pull in cool air from front is correct. As I mentioned earlier, it also comes down to personal preferences - the kind of GPU, fans, chassis one has. I personally prefer to place the rear fan in the direction where it pulls in cool air from outside into the chassis along with the radiator fans doing the same. And then some cool RGB fans in the front (and some not so cool RGB fans at the bottom) of the chassis to blow out all the hot air from within. It's the kind of PC ecosystem that I prefer.
@sneaky you are super correct sir, the fan is installed in very very wrong way, you should blow hot air upward, not downward inside the case, i don't care about the gpu, but your system pc become a electric heater.
I just bought this cooler and it looks and performs amazing. However I have an Asus X470 pro and I cant use the header adapter that comes to sync the RGB I have a 4 prong header for my RGB that's: 12v G R B, is there an adapter I can buy?
What you see her do @4:11 is daisy chain the rgb cable the plug that chain into a RGB Controller that they have inside their case like the Versa C23 TG RGB Edition (There is a cable for rgb and a cable for the fan. if you dont have rgb headers, you still need to power the fans. There are RBG controllers that Thermaltake have, for use with the 3 fan rgb packs for example ( Thermaltake Riing Plus 12RGB Radiator Fan TT Premium Ed 3 Pack/Fan/12025/PWM). They use a USB 2 header on your motherboard to 'interface'. For my Gigabyte X570I Aorus Pro WiFi AM4 ITX Motherboard, this meant I lost my front usb 2 ports (2x). This can be overcome by using NZXT Internal 5 Port USB Hub, where you can plug it into the USB2 header on the MBoard, and get 3 more headers.
Should the fans on the radiator push air out of the case, or pull air in from outside? And should they be placed on the radiator so that they push air through it, or should they pull air from it? Would it be conceivable to have fans on _both_ sides of the radiator (similarly to how that's often possible with CPU heatsinks)?
Yes it's called a push pull config. And it doesn't really matter if you use your rad as intake or exhaust it doesn't make a big difference and depends on your case.
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g Well yes, but actually no. :D See, let's say, your PSU is hidden in a separate please just like in the above video, let's say also that you have 2 front fans on the chassis, and one back fan, and your GPU is sideways as the above cause. With that said since the GPU's fans are facing the motherboard, meaning air is going towards the motherboard a little, and a little bit down and up too it's a big question which setup would be better. In case of pulling air into the chassis with the liquid cooler's fans: yes, the radiators are cooled with pulling fresh cold air into the chassis through the radiator, but that would also push the air downwards to the GPU, two air collides and in that case the back fan has to take care of now the 3 incoming airs, the front fan's, the GPU's air and the liquid cooler's too. Two of them are warm air and trully, one is only cold air. Would be great to get rid of the warm air, however I guess that's too much pressure on the back fan. Also that double warm air could affect your VRM temps and the RAM temps too since they collide just in front of them. if you have an actual push pull config, in case if pushing air out of the chassis with the liquid cooler's fans: As I mentioned before warm air is coming from GPU's direction towards the motherboard, some of that air could reach and eventually go through the liquid cooler's fans, and therefore warm air can't effectively cool down the radiators. However we still have the back and front fans. The back fan could take care of the GPUs little warm air, and the front fans are providing good fresh cold air towards the motherboard which is then pulled up by the liquid cooler's fan, with the travel speed it can even hit the RAM a little, cooling it a bit and also the VRMs next to the CPU. Hence cooling them a little two. Since these two is probably colder than the GPU itself under high load, it's probably not really causing any warm air to go through the liquid cooler, hence decrease the effectiveness of the cooler. But still, greatly cooling the radiator with cold air. I think it's generally true that pulling air into the chassis is mostly done by the front fans, and the rest of the fans are pushing warm air out is the best solution in this cases hence creating a general nice airflow through your system and not creating air collision. Which means then that in the above video the liquid cooler's fans are facing the wrong direction. But this highly depends on the chassis, even if it has enough space for this. In my case I only have a double faned air cooler at the moment on the CPU. 2 front fans and 1 back fan and my GPU is upside down. GPU air is slightly colliding with the incoming air from the 2 front fans direction, the 2 fans on the CPU are literally push pulling. so the first fan is pushing air through, and the other side the fan is pulling air out, and then just behind them, the back fan is also pushing air out of the chasiss. Hence this creating a straight fast airflow, which is good even when the GPU is pushing some warm air in that direction.
Oooh a very common question. We'd recommend checking out our recent AIO Q&A video for the answer to this and other AIO questions! ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html
Hi, great video. The fans need to point the other directions, to blow air through the radiator and out the top of the case, the way you are setting it up
I bought one of these, but the part (4 pin cable) that connects to the power supply, my source is full modular, and the cable is different, I can't connect.
Hi. So the radiator fan should be installed in a system fan header and not the Cpu fan header? I have a msi aio And I plugged the pump in the pump fan header. :) Maybe put music volume little down?
@@samhoey8247 hi there :) I got a MSI MPG Z490M Gaming Edge WiFi With an I9 10900K and the cooler Msi mag core liquid 240R I used the following fans from the Cooler Master, Masterbox 311L for the radiator The fans was not spinning in the Cpu fan header, I changed the Auto to PWM in bios then they switch on
Hey there! The V200 is compatible with 240mm AIO coolers, it's a tight fit and depends on how thick the radiator is and if your ram has a bulky design. For reference, our Water 3.0 Argb Edition 240mm AIO fits and you can have a set of our Toughram installed as well.
Thermaltake Australia & New Zealand damn Thermaltake Australia be hella loose and unprofessional with their UA-cam comments. It’s like Thermaltake gave the monitoring job to a 16 year old and said “say what ever you want we don’t care and don’t use profanity”.
Can I use CHA_FAN as a RGB? I don't think my motherboard has a port for RGB, I have a crosshair viii dark hero x570 and ekwb d-rgb aio cooler 360mm. Need help
Stupid question, my case doesn't have a 5V port at the back to connect the cable to. It definitely has a central hub but no 5v. Can I plug that cable (Cable E for Ryzen) directly into my mobo?
@@ThermaltakeAustralia yeah it hovers around 60 during winter, this is the first summer I've had the card for so I was pretty surprised when I saw how hot it was getting.
I still dont understand, why it called water/liquid cooler while it doesnt use water/liquid? Or am i the one who missing something? Someone explain please
I'm having problems getting my waterblock to fit over the retention bracket - it just doesn't seem to reach both at the same time. Does anyone know if this is a common problem or how to fix it?
I literally just installed one I understand what you're talking about what I had to do was loosen everything up tighten it a little once I have 1 on and then quite literally just fiddle it for like a good 5 minutes and then it will get on
When the CPU temps gets around 55c, i get the LED on the waterblock on the right lights up white (sometimes purple) and stays like that until the CPU temperature decreases. i'm disappointed
Recently had the TH240 3.0 AIO installed in my system. Is it normal for the cpu cooling block/pump to make a constant low electrical buzzing sound even at idle? I have the radiator installed vertically in the front of my case with barbs at the bottom if that makes any difference?
This might be the dumbest question you’ll ever see, im new to pc and i happen to have a liquid cooling system for my cpu, do i need to keep maintenance on it? Like for example do i need to fill it up with something once in a while?
Not a dumb question at all! In fact, it's actually a very common on that gets asked and we answered it in a video too! You can get the answer to your question and a few more here ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html However, if you don't have the time - that's cool! The short answer is no :)
How did you plug the RGB into the Motherboard? I've just purchased this AIO and an MSI Tomahawk B450 Motherboard but can't see how to connect the RGB to it. I can find the JRGB hearder on the Motherboard the connectors supplied won't fit.
Yes you can, no biggie there, however you may want to take some notes from Steve @ Gamers Nexus for how to orientate it best. ua-cam.com/video/BbGomv195sk/v-deo.html
In this scenario, the fans would be blowing up to go out the top, correct? Also, you dont have to connect the coller to your gpu somehow? I've always just used fans for my builds
No, its a pull config, air is coming in from the top (sticker of the fan is on the inside of case air is pulling and viceversa) this applies on most fans I THINK...
Great right up to connect the rgb cables to the " back section here". Where and what do the rgb cables connect to on a typical mobo? That's the part I cannot find understand. Using gigabyte b450 ds3h.
@@emredrum And if we don't have a Thermaltake case, where would we expect to find the controller typically? Or is it always going to be a separate purchase?
Do I still need a fan controller or Hub to have the RGB. Even if I don’t want to have the software. Because I am new to pc’s and need to know if it works without the controller. Awesome video. Also will it work on a Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite M AMD. Also where can I buy a compatible backplate. The case is Corsair 220t RGB. Thanks. And awesome video!!
We can do you one better actually! Here is a tutorial we uploaded just the other day for the TH AIO ua-cam.com/video/-oVTf5VslCs/v-deo.html Hope it helps!
I have the water 3.0 240 ARGB, the one in this video, and I Daisy chained the rgb connections, and plugged them into that same slot on that little thermaltake board it showed (I have a thermaltake view 51 case) and the lights would not work, and we're not controllable.
Ths exact aio in this exact case type with the exact rgb board failed on me after only a couple of years. The pump itself i beleive stoped working after about 2 years of loud pumping opperation. Wouldent buy again for 120$ i though id be buying a wuality cooler That lasts. I still have the box thats how new it is lol
Just letting you know you can still get power to your AIO bro! But instead of daisy chaining to the 5V port on your mobo, you can daisy chain it then connect it to the controller bro. The controller cable has a SATA port on the end for your RGB Power, so connect that to your PSU and bang, it should power on :) The Cable (E) for Ryzen or (F) for Intel as shown here is only for particular motherboards to sync the motherboard RGB with your fans RGB. The controller just means you manually can control the speed, colour and style of the RGB manually at the back with the controller rather than have it automatically sync with how your motherboard lights up. Still, fans will light up either way. Hope that helps!
Hey hey Matt, with AIO (All-in-one) coolers you don't need to maintain them by filling them up, AIO's tend to have a long lifespan, as always, miles will vary but you can expect one of these to last you as long as it takes you to upgrade :)
You know, after watching this, I think I might just stick to conventional fans 😂 It takes me about an hour to build a PC from start to finish, this looks like it'd add another hour 😅😂 and I'm impatient haha.
To the RGB header on your motherboard. Look for the internal ports on the motherboard manual to find out what ports it has. If it doesn't have any RGB headers, you'll need to either get a new motherboard or buy an ARGB adapter.
@@joshkoster2851 I know my mother board has rgb headers but are rgb headers only on the front side of the motherboard? I’m getting ready to install a 240 water cooler with rgb. I know I have rgb header on front of motherboard.
no, you need the pump cable to go into your motherboard "pump" header or your CPU Fan/Pump header this results in making the pump go faster as your CPU gets hotter. You can install your radiator fans into the header tho
at 3:55 she is wrong. Dont use a system header. Use your CPU fan header. That header goes off the temperature of your CPU so it can be controlled. The other headers go off the overall temp or something like that
So this is a pretty cool thing to bring up, I do need to say that it isn't necessarily wrong to put your AIO header into your "sys_header" vs "CPU fan" header though. It depends on how your AIO will act - with the Water 3.0 ARGB, what tends to happen is if you do have it in your CPU header, the pump speed will fluctuate to match what your CPU heat is at the time, which can actually get super annoying if you don't want to hear your pump speed up and slow down - having it in your system header will keep your pump at a constant speed. BOTH will keep your CPU cool, both work effectively and it's rally up to you what you end up doing.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia Wow thats actually amazing insight. I personally would never have thought about putting it in your sys header to get around that. I know in certain BIOS's you can make your fan header respond in a shorter amount of time to get around the constant speed changing. But that definitely sounds like a way better work around. Props.
Hey there Jeremy, an AIO install shouldn't take longer than an hour provided you have a good screwdriver, a chassis that can easily be worked in and if you would like to take the time to cable manage the new fan cables.
I genuinely dont know if this is just a horrible tutorial or if its truly this complicated, but the one thing I do know is ill be sticking with my AMD wraith.
Doesn't it need an expansion container? I mean water heats up expands in volume: 1 Litre of 20 degrees becomes 1,5 litres when at 80 degrees (for example), so it should have a container where the extra water volume should go. For example car engines are equiped with such a container, where the excess liquid goes when it's temperature rise and that's the logic I follow, but I might be wrong.
Aight, intervention time! We're gonna need y'all to jump over to THIS video before commenting on the intake vs exhaust situation thanks... ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html
what if you want to install an oversized radiator on your water cooler? Mine is always HOT (the air coming off) like uncomfortably so, on my rizen 9 running warships on max settings. Id love to put a larger one on maybe the exterior.
The guy is right that still there will be fresh cool air cooling the radiator BUT the huge problem you are creating is blowing super hot air from the radiator inside the case instead of out. Your setup makes sense only in the cooler is installed at the bottom of the case and there are still fans at the top blowing out.
Wow you spent 5 seconds showing us how to cable it all up. I have this product and it is a nightmare to connect up. How about show us how to connect it thoroughly.
Facts I’m laying on my bed confused as fuck
Same here I found their instructions so hard to understand and so it was a nightmare to get the water block on
@@thenoobanator7395 x1000
Oh come on man It's easy to Install
@@FantomDX69 They should have shown her doing the hook method for 1st time builders, not every ones a pro like you bro lol
Placing the radiator on top is the best for longevity. It will create 0 to minimal bubbles.
Top tip...when laying the PC flat, don't lay it on top of the cables that provide power to the fans! Crushing cables can severely degrade the conductor and worse, the insulation.
And no, this isn't a dig at the lass doing the video, it's just a point I wanted to make.
Wtf is a lass and if she fucked up then that includes her too
i could barely see where to put the cables, help please
"Seems" like a good tutorial but the fans they put on the radiator are not installed properly... they should be facing the inside of the case so the air is getting pulled out of the case. In that case, they destroyed the airflow cause now air is getting in the case by the top too
Thanks, that got me super confused. I almost made the same mistake because I was doubting my self, then I saw your comment.
I'm to broke to even begin to think about buying a full desktop PC do idk why I even watch the tutorials but I still do. Guess it's a show of quality of Sarah's narration and amazing editing that went into this. Pretty epic.
how bought now its been 3 years
@@Sideclon_2 I hope he got one 🫡
”And now if you have to, install back your gpu”😂
w0t
No give it to me
How's that funny?
Do you think it's necessary? She didn't say to do that, then why would I?
nah cus she said you can take off the gpu at the start to make things easier. so like if you didnt take it off then u wont need to slap it back in
I notice that when I put a the watercooler on my CPU, the preapplied thermal paste isn't as cool as adding your own, at least for me I see a 5-10°C difference in thermal temps.
1:01 I can't see but I really hope the plastic cover is on the copper plate because she just put your finger right on it FeelsBadMan
Which way should I install the fan?
Does AIO needs to be refilled after a certain period of time?
How do I know if I screwed the water block tight enough? What if I screwed too tight, or not tight enough?
Hey there! Might be too late, but you'd not if it wasnt tight enough if your PC doesnt end up making all the way through to the home screen past booting OR if it turns off shortly after loading up windows as your CPU without any cooling should have your motherboard turn itself off for safety. If this happens, don't stress too much, just go back and tighten the screws a little more. You also can't really tighten too much unless you thread the screws.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia Hey, thanks for that. I'll keep them in mind. Still waiting for the new Ryzen 🤣
I have a 360mm of these, my pump leds have stopped (before the leds were stuck and now they're completely gone) could it be the led controller?
u fix it??
@@thomascoppage2310 Nope, I have returned it because it was still on guarantee, when I received back a new one I sold it because I bought a DeepCool Castle 360mm in the meanwhile.
Is there a video setting it up with the controller bc my pc came with out
We recently did a whole video about setting up our RGB with controllers. Check it out and we hope it helps! ua-cam.com/video/9BHLOouMSBw/v-deo.html
Hi. The RGB connector from the pump is the 5v 3 pin? Or is a proprietary connection too? Do they include some sort of adaptor from the proprietary to 3pin 5v for the pump?
Years of having this aio. I'm so fed up with such a product. A few months ago, it even broke the plastic brackets holding the backplate. Never use a system like you did for the AM4 part every again. Just do old-fashioned 4 screws hold it down. I wish I could get a new product to replace this one currently.
I have a motherboard aorus ultra gaming z370, I would like to know where I connect the pump connector? cpu opt? or sys fan Pump? and the fans call any sys fan? or cpu fan and opt fan?
pump goes into sys fan pump, fans go into cpu fan or cpu opt
i have a question, the Aio cooler should be exhaust or Air in?
Is nobody going to point out that the fans on the radiator are installed the wrong way for push/pull system of the case? The fan in the video is set up to be pulling in air from the top rather than push out. While this isn't a problem without an AIO cooler, the problem is the radiator. The radiator generating too much heat from the CPU and pulling those heat inward toward your GPU will make your GPU temp rise like crazy and function terribly. If the fan and radiator are installed on top of the case then the regular push/pull set-up needs to be used by pulling in cool air from the front and pushing out hot air from the back and top.
Or, am I wrong?
You’re not wrong .
Well, you're right with "radiator generating too much heat from the CPU", but that's one part of the story.
A quick answer - Whatever the GPU be, if your system is running on base clock then it doesn't matter which direction the rad fans are, you're good to go!
But if it's running overclocked then - It basically depends upon what sort of GPU one is using and, of course, personal preferences (even the video mentions that @1:00. Blower style GPUs generally don't show a drastic change in temperatures regardless to the CPU overclocking, but that being said, it'll heat up just a tiny bit because of the lack of fans on it. The difference between temperatures in pre/post overclocking is very subtle.
The real difference can be seen while using an open GPU. If it's a high-end open style GPU i.e with a shroud having multiple fans on it, like the ones Asus has in their Strix series (3 fans), then the rad fans pulling the air inside the chassis ain't gonna make any difference to the GPU temperature as those additional GPU fans are quite enough to keep it cooled and flush off all the excess heat of the radiator. It's only gonna reduce the CPU temperatures as it'll suck in all the cool ambient air.
But if it's an entry level or a mid range GPU, having a single fan shroud, then it'll heat up significantly. There's very little one can do bout it than to change the rad fans direction. One thing that can be done other than changing the rad's direction is, mount that GPU vertically if a vertical mount option is available for that particular Chassis. But then that's also not gonna help a lot and that's where you are on point and right.
The other way, if a PC is overclocked, is having a high end open style GPU and an AiO installed in the "traditional way" i.e pushing the air outward, it's just gonna add to the CPU temperature by some substantially amount as the rad fans are also gonna pull all the additional heat released by the GPU and then throw it on to the radiator, making the cooled liquid slightly warm again. That's where your suggestion to pull in cool air from front is correct.
As I mentioned earlier, it also comes down to personal preferences - the kind of GPU, fans, chassis one has. I personally prefer to place the rear fan in the direction where it pulls in cool air from outside into the chassis along with the radiator fans doing the same. And then some cool RGB fans in the front (and some not so cool RGB fans at the bottom) of the chassis to blow out all the hot air from within. It's the kind of PC ecosystem that I prefer.
@sneaky you are super correct sir, the fan is installed in very very wrong way, you should blow hot air upward, not downward inside the case, i don't care about the gpu, but your system pc become a electric heater.
4:18 what is that "back section" connector called?
I just bought this cooler and it looks and performs amazing. However I have an Asus X470 pro and I cant use the header adapter that comes to sync the RGB I have a 4 prong header for my RGB that's: 12v G R B, is there an adapter I can buy?
Nope
3:49 homegirl just turned into a deity holy shit
okay but real talk this video helped so much, thanks a lot
Just to double check... at 4:11 the rgb plugs can be connected to system fan controllers? (If you dont have rgb controllers)?
What you see her do @4:11 is daisy chain the rgb cable the plug that chain into a RGB Controller that they have inside their case like the Versa C23 TG RGB Edition
(There is a cable for rgb and a cable for the fan. if you dont have rgb headers, you still need to power the fans. There are RBG controllers that Thermaltake have, for use with the 3 fan rgb packs for example ( Thermaltake Riing Plus 12RGB Radiator Fan TT Premium Ed 3 Pack/Fan/12025/PWM). They use a USB 2 header on your motherboard to 'interface'. For my Gigabyte X570I Aorus Pro WiFi AM4 ITX Motherboard, this meant I lost my front usb 2 ports (2x). This can be overcome by using NZXT Internal 5 Port USB Hub, where you can plug it into the USB2 header on the MBoard, and get 3 more headers.
Should the fans on the radiator push air out of the case, or pull air in from outside?
And should they be placed on the radiator so that they push air through it, or should they pull air from it?
Would it be conceivable to have fans on _both_ sides of the radiator (similarly to how that's often possible with CPU heatsinks)?
^write us^
Yes it's called a push pull config.
And it doesn't really matter if you use your rad as intake or exhaust it doesn't make a big difference and depends on your case.
@@user-ke1gn3ql1g Well yes, but actually no. :D
See, let's say, your PSU is hidden in a separate please just like in the above video, let's say also that you have 2 front fans on the chassis, and one back fan, and your GPU is sideways as the above cause. With that said since the GPU's fans are facing the motherboard, meaning air is going towards the motherboard a little, and a little bit down and up too it's a big question which setup would be better. In case of pulling air into the chassis with the liquid cooler's fans: yes, the radiators are cooled with pulling fresh cold air into the chassis through the radiator, but that would also push the air downwards to the GPU, two air collides and in that case the back fan has to take care of now the 3 incoming airs, the front fan's, the GPU's air and the liquid cooler's too. Two of them are warm air and trully, one is only cold air. Would be great to get rid of the warm air, however I guess that's too much pressure on the back fan. Also that double warm air could affect your VRM temps and the RAM temps too since they collide just in front of them.
if you have an actual push pull config, in case if pushing air out of the chassis with the liquid cooler's fans: As I mentioned before warm air is coming from GPU's direction towards the motherboard, some of that air could reach and eventually go through the liquid cooler's fans, and therefore warm air can't effectively cool down the radiators. However we still have the back and front fans. The back fan could take care of the GPUs little warm air, and the front fans are providing good fresh cold air towards the motherboard which is then pulled up by the liquid cooler's fan, with the travel speed it can even hit the RAM a little, cooling it a bit and also the VRMs next to the CPU. Hence cooling them a little two. Since these two is probably colder than the GPU itself under high load, it's probably not really causing any warm air to go through the liquid cooler, hence decrease the effectiveness of the cooler. But still, greatly cooling the radiator with cold air.
I think it's generally true that pulling air into the chassis is mostly done by the front fans, and the rest of the fans are pushing warm air out is the best solution in this cases hence creating a general nice airflow through your system and not creating air collision. Which means then that in the above video the liquid cooler's fans are facing the wrong direction. But this highly depends on the chassis, even if it has enough space for this. In my case I only have a double faned air cooler at the moment on the CPU. 2 front fans and 1 back fan and my GPU is upside down. GPU air is slightly colliding with the incoming air from the 2 front fans direction, the 2 fans on the CPU are literally push pulling. so the first fan is pushing air through, and the other side the fan is pulling air out, and then just behind them, the back fan is also pushing air out of the chasiss. Hence this creating a straight fast airflow, which is good even when the GPU is pushing some warm air in that direction.
Is the water already installed into the radiator?
Oooh a very common question. We'd recommend checking out our recent AIO Q&A video for the answer to this and other AIO questions! ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html
I recently bought the v200 case but i dont know how to remove 500w psu that comes with it
Hi, great video. The fans need to point the other directions, to blow air through the radiator and out the top of the case, the way you are setting it up
I bought one of these, but the part (4 pin cable) that connects to the power supply, my source is full modular, and the cable is different, I can't connect.
Hi. So the radiator fan should be installed in a system fan header and not the Cpu fan header?
I have a msi aio
And I plugged the pump in the pump fan header. :)
Maybe put music volume little down?
No I think you install it on CPU fan, whats your motherboard please I might be able to help
@@samhoey8247 hi there :) I got a MSI MPG Z490M Gaming Edge WiFi
With an I9 10900K and the cooler
Msi mag core liquid 240R
I used the following fans from the Cooler Master, Masterbox 311L for the radiator
The fans was not spinning in the Cpu fan header, I changed the Auto to PWM in bios then they switch on
bro my problem is i dont got these holes up on the pc so i dont know if i can install it not
Finally i got the thing for which i was looking thanks a lot .
U mean....me... 😂😂😂....just kidding...dear
I would like to know if this requires me to buy something to put my own liquid in as i have somethinf like this and im confused
Nope. AIOs are closed loops, so you never have to replace the coolant inside :)
Hey can I put the radiator on the top of my case (Thermaltake v200)
Hey there! The V200 is compatible with 240mm AIO coolers, it's a tight fit and depends on how thick the radiator is and if your ram has a bulky design. For reference, our Water 3.0 Argb Edition 240mm AIO fits and you can have a set of our Toughram installed as well.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia Thanks for your answer, I'm gonna need to put it on front sadly.
Where did you put the last rgb cable you said just put it in the back here I can't find a spot
That case I’m pretty sure comes with a installed rgb controller, so if you don’t look for an RGB header on ur motherboard then ur good to go
Why do watercoolers come with fans where you have to put the good looking side where you cant see it and the crappy looking side where you can see it.
Imagine making a product that even people that work at the company struggle to use.
Lol... Imagine using a beginner to help show other beginners that it can be done, no matter the experience level... Imagine.
Thermaltake Australia & New Zealand ohhhhh saltyyyy
Thermaltake Australia & New Zealand damn Thermaltake Australia be hella loose and unprofessional with their UA-cam comments. It’s like Thermaltake gave the monitoring job to a 16 year old and said “say what ever you want we don’t care and don’t use profanity”.
@@amero3577 Wait, you were in on that meeting too?!?
@@amero3577 you are describing Duolingo
does it come with the cpu brackets
Can I use CHA_FAN as a RGB? I don't think my motherboard has a port for RGB, I have a crosshair viii dark hero x570 and ekwb d-rgb aio cooler 360mm. Need help
Stupid question, my case doesn't have a 5V port at the back to connect the cable to. It definitely has a central hub but no 5v. Can I plug that cable (Cable E for Ryzen) directly into my mobo?
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What case is this? I curre fly cant install it on top only front if I want my new cooler. If I go top my ram is in the way?
My Seahawk 980ti is at 85 degrees after gaming for a couple hours because of the summer and it turns my pc into a room heater
Yewwwwwwwwww! That's a hawt boiiiii.
But it would be awesome come Winter time! Haha.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia yeah it hovers around 60 during winter, this is the first summer I've had the card for so I was pretty surprised when I saw how hot it was getting.
so is the water already in it?
My case has 3 rgb fans in the fron, I got a 240 mm aio. Can I put the aio behind the front fans?
Hey man just letting you know I did exactly that
I still dont understand, why it called water/liquid cooler while it doesnt use water/liquid? Or am i the one who missing something? Someone explain please
Wait wait, “the back section here” what is that?
I'm having problems getting my waterblock to fit over the retention bracket - it just doesn't seem to reach both at the same time. Does anyone know if this is a common problem or how to fix it?
I literally just installed one I understand what you're talking about what I had to do was loosen everything up tighten it a little once I have 1 on and then quite literally just fiddle it for like a good 5 minutes and then it will get on
I was figuring out if I need to put some water because it is a water cooler.
Can u still use the old thermal paste if it is only like 2 weeks old
Best practice would say no and officially we also advise against it. Unofficially though, personally I've done it without issue.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia well my thermal paste only 2 weeks... ill risk it
Bro remember part of the thermal paste it's also on the old heatsink, it's better to install new one.
When the CPU temps gets around 55c, i get the LED on the waterblock on the right lights up white (sometimes purple) and stays like that until the CPU temperature decreases. i'm disappointed
Is there anyway to buy that small card u plugged in everything in? Bc i dont have that one
Yay! Well done Sarah. You didn't let the smoke out or anything. Smile always on point!
Not that you know of! XD
@@ThermaltakeAustralia B-roll or outtake reel??
Did we discuss air flow direction when talking about the fan setup?
@@MyklCarlton Not in this video HOWEVER, Push vs Pull vs Push/Pull is a video we will be tackling!
was this case a micro ATX?
Hi, that's a negative - this is one of our Commandeer series chassis.
Recently had the TH240 3.0 AIO installed in my system. Is it normal for the cpu cooling block/pump to make a constant low electrical buzzing sound even at idle? I have the radiator installed vertically in the front of my case with barbs at the bottom if that makes any difference?
Compatible with Lga1700?
ok but when does the water go in
Is it ok to install this without the plastic retention bracket clip/lock?
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So the liquid is already in the thing?
Correct, you do not need to add, drain or top up liquid in an AIO
This might be the dumbest question you’ll ever see, im new to pc and i happen to have a liquid cooling system for my cpu, do i need to keep maintenance on it? Like for example do i need to fill it up with something once in a while?
Not a dumb question at all! In fact, it's actually a very common on that gets asked and we answered it in a video too! You can get the answer to your question and a few more here ua-cam.com/video/HlrZQIHiXwM/v-deo.html
However, if you don't have the time - that's cool! The short answer is no :)
@@ThermaltakeAustralia ty🙂
You asked what I have been searching for. Thanks, and thank you Thermaltake for guiding me to the video! Been using your cases for decades!
Wouldn't the first step be in making sure you have the right size for the case ?
Um, are those slots on top of the case so you can put the fans on top? I could be mistaking but that doesn't seem like convenient venting.
How did you plug the RGB into the Motherboard? I've just purchased this AIO and an MSI Tomahawk B450 Motherboard but can't see how to connect the RGB to it. I can find the JRGB hearder on the Motherboard the connectors supplied won't fit.
She is plugging it into a controller that is part of the Thermaltake Case : Versa C23 TG RGB Edition example
can you also place it on the top right if you already have other fans at the top?
Yes you can, no biggie there, however you may want to take some notes from Steve @ Gamers Nexus for how to orientate it best. ua-cam.com/video/BbGomv195sk/v-deo.html
If its a single case fan attached to the CPU cooler does it have to be installed on the top part of the computer case? or can it go on the back part
In this scenario, the fans would be blowing up to go out the top, correct? Also, you dont have to connect the coller to your gpu somehow? I've always just used fans for my builds
And AIO cooler like this it just for the cpu only. It does not connect to your GPU
No, its a pull config, air is coming in from the top (sticker of the fan is on the inside of case air is pulling and viceversa) this applies on most fans I THINK...
Great right up to connect the rgb cables to the " back section here". Where and what do the rgb cables connect to on a typical mobo? That's the part I cannot find understand. Using gigabyte b450 ds3h.
Thermaltake have RBG Cases, and they have this controller or similar on the 'back'. www.thermaltake.com.au/versa-c23-tg-rgb-edition.html
@@emredrum And if we don't have a Thermaltake case, where would we expect to find the controller typically? Or is it always going to be a separate purchase?
Do I still need a fan controller or Hub to have the RGB. Even if I don’t want to have the software. Because I am new to pc’s and need to know if it works without the controller. Awesome video. Also will it work on a Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite M AMD. Also where can I buy a compatible backplate. The case is Corsair 220t RGB. Thanks. And awesome video!!
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does this also apply the the TH120 with the square waterblock?
We can do you one better actually! Here is a tutorial we uploaded just the other day for the TH AIO ua-cam.com/video/-oVTf5VslCs/v-deo.html Hope it helps!
I have the water 3.0 240 ARGB, the one in this video, and I Daisy chained the rgb connections, and plugged them into that same slot on that little thermaltake board it showed (I have a thermaltake view 51 case) and the lights would not work, and we're not controllable.
Did you download any control software for the RGB? www.thermaltake.com.au/downloads
Which model are you using for the chassis ? Commander C series or else?
Hey hey, we're using the Commander G series chassis, specifically the G32 model.
Don’t I still need a heatsink and thermal paste? I have an intel motherboard...
How about the coolant?
What soft ware you install to change the color of the ring on cpu? The light that has TT
Not sure but I think the msi one will work?
TT RGB PLUS Software (i think)
www.thermaltake.com.au/downloads
Ths exact aio in this exact case type with the exact rgb board failed on me after only a couple of years. The pump itself i beleive stoped working after about 2 years of loud pumping opperation. Wouldent buy again for 120$ i though id be buying a wuality cooler
That lasts. I still have the box thats how new it is lol
My rgb lights won't come on. I have them daisy chained to the remote. Using msi tomahawk max so it doesn't have any 5v :(
Just letting you know you can still get power to your AIO bro! But instead of daisy chaining to the 5V port on your mobo, you can daisy chain it then connect it to the controller bro.
The controller cable has a SATA port on the end for your RGB Power, so connect that to your PSU and bang, it should power on :)
The Cable (E) for Ryzen or (F) for Intel as shown here is only for particular motherboards to sync the motherboard RGB with your fans RGB.
The controller just means you manually can control the speed, colour and style of the RGB manually at the back with the controller rather than have it automatically sync with how your motherboard lights up. Still, fans will light up either way. Hope that helps!
What's those boards that you hang your tools on?
Hey Shirley, those pegboards are from Ikea :)
@@ThermaltakeAustralia Thankies
and it not water cooling block
Do you have to replace the water, and if you do, how do you replace it?
Hey hey Matt, with AIO (All-in-one) coolers you don't need to maintain them by filling them up, AIO's tend to have a long lifespan, as always, miles will vary but you can expect one of these to last you as long as it takes you to upgrade :)
very nicely done.
You know, after watching this, I think I might just stick to conventional fans 😂
It takes me about an hour to build a PC from start to finish, this looks like it'd add another hour 😅😂 and I'm impatient haha.
How about the water for the radiator?
is that low tower case?
Good installation process however u turned on the actual rgb lights -2109 rep, very bad behavior
Where would I connect the rgb cable
To the RGB header on your motherboard. Look for the internal ports on the motherboard manual to find out what ports it has. If it doesn't have any RGB headers, you'll need to either get a new motherboard or buy an ARGB adapter.
@@joshkoster2851 I know my mother board has rgb headers but are rgb headers only on the front side of the motherboard? I’m getting ready to install a 240 water cooler with rgb. I know I have rgb header on front of motherboard.
Thanks alot. It helped me alot.
Does it have water inside of it?¿
Why those fans are as intake and not exhaust
the fans are not backwards?
This pc will heat. Like hell. She mounted the fans in the wrong way.
Am I able to plug the pump cable into my fan hub?
no, you need the pump cable to go into your motherboard "pump" header or your CPU Fan/Pump header this results in making the pump go faster as your CPU gets hotter. You can install your radiator fans into the header tho
This is making me think I should wait till I get a new motherboard and cpu before installing this but I’ve got no money.
at 3:55 she is wrong. Dont use a system header. Use your CPU fan header. That header goes off the temperature of your CPU so it can be controlled. The other headers go off the overall temp or something like that
So this is a pretty cool thing to bring up, I do need to say that it isn't necessarily wrong to put your AIO header into your "sys_header" vs "CPU fan" header though.
It depends on how your AIO will act - with the Water 3.0 ARGB, what tends to happen is if you do have it in your CPU header, the pump speed will fluctuate to match what your CPU heat is at the time, which can actually get super annoying if you don't want to hear your pump speed up and slow down - having it in your system header will keep your pump at a constant speed.
BOTH will keep your CPU cool, both work effectively and it's rally up to you what you end up doing.
@@ThermaltakeAustralia Wow thats actually amazing insight. I personally would never have thought about putting it in your sys header to get around that.
I know in certain BIOS's you can make your fan header respond in a shorter amount of time to get around the constant speed changing. But that definitely sounds like a way better work around. Props.
now i just feel dumb hahahah
My cooler has 4 screws for it not 1 idk what yours has but that’s not realistic
How long does this generally take you?
Hey there Jeremy, an AIO install shouldn't take longer than an hour provided you have a good screwdriver, a chassis that can easily be worked in and if you would like to take the time to cable manage the new fan cables.
I genuinely dont know if this is just a horrible tutorial or if its truly this complicated, but the one thing I do know is ill be sticking with my AMD wraith.
No thermal paste?
i don't get it why is this called a water cooler... where is the water?
shouldn't there be a pump and a tank with water?
It’s called an aio for a reason all in one they water is already in their so it’s nice and easy
@@slimenub you just blew my mind 🤣
Thank you for the very simple explanation LOL
Just stumbled onto this video. It was a big help, really well done!
Doesn't it need an expansion container? I mean water heats up expands in volume: 1 Litre of 20 degrees becomes 1,5 litres when at 80 degrees (for example), so it should have a container where the extra water volume should go. For example car engines are equiped with such a container, where the excess liquid goes when it's temperature rise and that's the logic I follow, but I might be wrong.
Great presentation again, thanks
whats all this about backwards fans?