How to Power Draw the Cue Ball with NO MISCUES
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2022
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In the last 12 minutes, I have learned more about how to properly do a draw shot than I have in my entire life. Thank you!
Yeah me too
I'm shocked how easy it is to hit a fantastic draw shot now.
Physics, physiology, mechanics, teaching genius, ability…etc…etc…etc…you have it all Bob. Thanks for sharing.
The golf analogy is great. That 'snick' sound when you hit it properly is f'n addictive.
When I was much younger, one of the greatest drills I was ever shown to improve my overall stroke after learning proper grip was shown to me by an "old timer" at the pool hall. You take a cleaned and dried beer bottle and lay it on the table and stroke through the opening until you are able to consistently hit the bottom of the bottle without contacting the opening at all. You have mastered this when you can consistently hit the bottle bottom to the point where it moves away from the cue without any contact. This is one of the fastest ways to train muscle memory into a stroke imo. Once that is mastered then you can move onto draw/follow/english, before you can, you must master an even clean stroke.
and you get to drink the beer first :)
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Yes an old timer told me the same thing
@@rene_bla_bla wouldn't recommend that. Better to use a dried out bottle so you don't get liquid all on your wood shaft and leather cue tip. Me I use carbon fiber, but there are still better ways than an empty beer bottle. I keep a dry beer bottle at the local pool hall when I need to teach people who ask. They see how I don't be missing ANY shots even 2 rail banks and ask for pointers.
I wanna know why so many old timers are showing you anything about stroking.
🎉🎉🎉 THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I couldn't figure out why one time I hit a decent draw shot and the next I would pop over the object ball. Now I can draw the full length and them some. Again THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Bob, this is one of my favorite videos of yours. I keep coming back to it. Great work!
This video is gold!
Enormously well explained
Thank you!
Ok, I was wrong. Always thought that lowering the cue to "level" on power draw was essential. However, after watching this video and practicing the techniques taught, I was able to produce a power draw shot much easier and much less miscues. The secret as demonstrated, is in the bridge length and hand position at impact. This was very helpful, thank you.
Great detail and it definitely gave me a lot to think about and mess around with!!! I'd love to hear Dr. Dave's opinion on everything, this is definitely up his alley
These type of videos with this content are your best ones! You r very talented in explaining the small points that carry important fundamental value to us players
Thx S.S.O.P.!!
I hope all new players could be taught the 90 degree to cue (not hanging elbow, 90 to floor). Thanks for educating us old dogs also.
I have a powerful draw shot (full length table draw). What i hate about my draw shot is i miscue a bit too often. This video helps. Thanks
This is part of my game that I have struggled through my entire life and this is the first time I have seen it explained this way. Now, I have homework to do. Thanks for the video.
Great video on grip hand positioning to avoid diving prior to impact.
I watch Han Yu. I cannot tell the difference between her power shot and a drag shot. Her technique seems to be perfect. I would love to see her complete shot as she does both on slow motion.
Thanks for explaining this, the way you did.
Amazing, the best demonstration of the motion required for a powerful stroke I've seen, and I've been searching. I'm off to the pool hall. 👏✌️
There are many good pool channels in youtube, but your videos hits another level. Thank you
This is soooo well thought out and presented. I have taught many players to draw their cueball, yet I have always struggled with the exact type of miscue shown in the video. Guess who will be gripping his cue closer to the butt at Pool League tonight!!!
Love the “why” aspect. I’m glad I found your channel
Absolutely fantastic. Your analysis looks be so logical and your way of expression is so clear. Likely same lesson is being propagated by all the great coaches but none so succinct;
My brother you are so amazing at how to break down pool knowledge. I’ve discovered my problems with a lot of your videos. The only thing that’s really stopping you from your potential is you post too much on straight pool 😂. Thanks for your teachings sir 🫡
Thanks! I will be adding more general and nineball, 10ball, one-pocket content. Stay tuned!
Best discussion on power draw. Thank you! Forever NOW, Isa
IMHO, this video is the Best of the Best ... when it comes to "Why a draw shot works and how to make it work for me."! Thank you thank you :)
Hi Bob, I had to comment once more. I’ve been practicing the mighty X drill tonight and executing the draw shot version.
Of course the goal is to draw the CB back into the corner I shoot from.
I did two things you mentioned here in your video. First, I’ve lengthened my bridge and moved my grip hand all the way back to my 3” extension. (with my pinky over it) Secondly, I’m slinging my wrist as you’ve described. These two adjustments are allowing me to shoot less violently and I’m getting way more draw with an easy more controlled stroke. My miscuing is non existent as I’m far enough back with my grip hand that my true 90° happens after the cue ball is gone.
Even though I’ve known this from my own practice sessions, I’ve been neglecting to be more aware of these adjustments and it’s cost me many miscues.
Thanks once again for opening my eyes to what it is I must always be aware of.
Huge huge help Sir, Ron
I started playing pool again after many years and I thought that I was doing everything correctly, but just didn't get the proper effect. I eventually discovered that I had subconsciously shortened my bridge length dramatically, probably out of lack of confidence. And because I couldn't get my shots, that reduced my confidence. Once I understood this and took a couple of hours of pure practice on the table, my game improved really dramatically. I had not thought about the whip action of the wrist that way. Very interesting.
With that accent, you’re definitely from Wisconsin lol. Love the content! I just figured out the “throwing motion” on my own the other day and it helped a lot. I need to try out the 90° rule on a table tomorrow
Bob, I'll concur with the others...great insight on how the grip position and bridge length influence the tip position at impact. I know I also struggle with this on occasion and had attributed it to my timing but had not broken it down further than that. Good criteria to examine closely and practice.
Great use of editing and graphics to teach. I can't imagine the amount of time you put in to these videos. Keep it up 👍
Thanks Bob!
I've been scooping the cueball on most of my draw shots the last couple of years - and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why. I've been thinking I've tightened up my grip hand and hence lifting the butt end of my cue, so I've been trying to relax more and more. I got to a point where I only held the cue in two fingers, but still I scooped it. Not until I saw this, and combined that with a comment I got from a friend that I was holding the cue a bit "short", did I realize that this (at about 2:30 in the video) was actually my real problem.
The last couple of weeks, since watching this, I've more or less eliminated the scoop on my draw shots!
The punishment of not playing (and barly holding a cue) for the 2+ years of the pandemic...
So - Thanks Bob!
Were you sick and in a hospital bed for the pandemic, or just couldn't afford a pool table at home?
@@godjhaka7376 I could afford a pool table, however I have no space for it...
this blew my mind!
More quality in one minute of this video than many instruction series! Cheers!
This video is so good that almost too good ! Unbeleaveble well done !
Good video. I will definitely try the exercise of trying to draw the cue ball the length of the table to within a couple of inches of the opposite short rail. One minor point: When the cue ball is being drawn, it is spinning around the HORZONTAL (or x) axis parallel to the table and perpendicular to the path of the cue ball, not the VERTICAL axis. And with side spin, the cue ball is spinning around the VERTICAL axis.
Took me a year and a half of concentrated effort and trial and error, to finally come to the conclusion that I needed to lengthen my bridge and increase my follow thru movement slightly. It was an embarrassing and humiliating experience to either jump the cue ball or be afraid to hit it. You described the problem and the fix very well. For me, better late than never.
I've been practicing "properly" for a couple months on my draw. Last night in league play I hopped the ball twice when attempting a draw. Ugg. Here today in my inbox is draw shots. Google can even see me play!
Good stuff man. I had always had trouble keeping a consistent draw shot. I will practice more using your method.
That is high quality insight. Having played snooker, your comments about the whippiness of grip are particularly useful for my power draw in pool. I can draw pretty well but definitely hit harder than I need to. This should help me mitigate this. Thank you
Such a well done video! Thanks!
I really like these detailed explanations. Well done. And thank you!
This is fantastic. Thank you.
Outstanding video. I found it enlightening. Helped me recognize what I'm doing wrong/what I need to correct. Thank you!!!
Totally awesome!!
This is by far the best video on this topic. I kept reading that the reason for a miscue was hitting the table first. You add the proof of this and a very valid solution to stop doing it.
Once again, a fantastic job.
Regards,
Bertin
I think I will love this style of learning. Down to the nitty gritty. Let's get it on.
Thank you. Will soon have more time to focus on more/better videos.
Bob, Howdy; Something that has always given me fits, draw. Yours' is an interesting walk through. covered some ground that is 'told' in others but you 'show' it and went into a great explanation with all the pictures, with the arrows and diagrams (aka Alice's Restaurant, chuckle), Bravo! Massey's draw is legendary. Thanks for something at least I can sink my teeth into.
Hey Bob i wish i had a teacher in school who can explain like you can back in the days :D I like your videos allot helps me so much with improving my skill level in pool! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!
Excellent video!
Thanks for this info!
Yeah! This was master class. Great instructional video. Cheers.
Outstanding video
After 10-20 other similar videos and still failing to eliminate my scooping, right after this video i went to the pool table and it WORKED!
Problem was that i was holding the cue too short. was in total disbelief. Thank you sir!
grip pressure is just as important if not more than elbow drop because elbow drop can be compensated. but if you tighten you back hand just b4 impact(with is very natural to do)you have you tip drop. try and set up up the address position and hold it there and then tighten the back hand a few times and see how much the tip dips.
people who played for a long time may not have it so much because they have a better follow throe. and are used to relax and keep the same pressure in the back hand.
but if you are getting miss cues this can be the reason.
Outstanding info and presentation, thank you! Your thoughts on this: I believe that when shooting a draw shot from a mid-level distance (3 diamonds away), we will get much better results if we intend to use the exact same stroke as when we were only 1 Diamond away. Trying to put more power in, to get more rotation (“under-spin”), contaminates the good technique we used on the close shot. Btw: your explanation of the momentum / rotational aspects is best I’ve seen, underlying what goes into delivering what Mike Massey described to as “a lot of (side) spin with a soft stroke”.
Bob, As a fellow creator of UA-cam content I complement you on this video. It's really good but perhaps I am biased by having you reveal the source of my draw problem. I can draw fairly reliably but every now and then I launch the cue ball into the distance. After viewing your video I understand the source of the issue. Thanks for the help. There is SO MUCH to learn.
Very clear and useful explanation of what is happening in the video.
Love this one my man. Technique is everything.
I think most folks don’t understand that an elbow drop doesn’t exist to “give you more power” cause if it takes place after cueball contact, as it should, then it doesn’t matter. I only mention this because for me, the elbow drop is a physical reminder to stay lose. Between that, a supple wrist, and a stroke slip (which we can get into if you like) gives me a very natural but elongated follow through. I mostly use it because it insures the timing of my stroke is never “sweetest” after cueball contact.
I’m curious too if the fact that my stroke slip helps in draw for this reason. It behaves more like a finger roll mechanically where the cue starts on my index finger and moves to contact my pinkie during cueball contact, effectively making the angle of the elbow to grip point slightly wider (like how you show when you hit the draw good).
As a fellow mechanics nerd, albeit with very different technique, I appreciate the detail and reasoning behind your videos- this one included. Keep at it my man.
Thanks Bob, an excellent video and explanation
This is an excellent explanation! Thank you :)
This was great. I love the work you put into your vids
this is so good, always wonder myself do i need to hit the cueball at the fastest speed. now i know a level cue and a relaxed grip is the answer
Excellent ,THANK YOU !
Thanks for sharing your valuable knowledge.
What an amazing explanation that is. Just a great video to really appreciate your work put in it.
This is such a good informational video. Thank you
First video I found of yours! And you’ve got me hooked. Only begun practicing pool for 6 months now and have finally taking my practice seriously! Your videos are so well done you have definitely earned my subscription and praise. I’ll definitely be letting everyone I know about this channel. Thank you very much for your time and patience with making these guides. I look forward to more and more!
Thank you so much for the kind words. I have a long list of vids to make. Will keep aiming for quality!
A big thanks for the video! Learned alot
Great, thorough video! You have a good way of presenting complex concepts so they make sense. Such good explanations that even I can understand! 😀 Can't wait to get to the pool table to start working on these techniques. Thanks, SSOP! (BTW ... I just liked and subscribed and this was the first of your videos I've seen. Won't be the last!)
Great video and very concise instructions on what to do and what not to do with your cue tip, chalt, bridge hand and stroke hand. Then a suggested training drill to improve your draw and fine tune if over powering or under powering. I just subscribed. Keep up the great instructional videos.
One thing I didn't see directly addressed is tightness of the grip. When I try to power up my draw shot, I often tighten my grip unintentionally. this raises the back of the cue, pushing the tip into the table. By using the proper technique you demonstrated, less power is needed so the unintentional tightening is less likely. The floppy wrist also lends itself to a loose grip. Finally, using less power means I'm less likely to distort my pendulum stroke, ensuring accurate tip placement.
Good observations.
Great educational video, thank you for sharing 👍
The first time I've watched any of your videos - great job!
I subscribed faster than any of my past/current subscriptions.
great incisive video, thanks
Excellent description!
One thing not covered is that if your cue ball is close to the object ball, you can get more rotational speed vs horizon speed with a slight elevation of the butt of the cue.
This is effective when cutting the object ball, you cal get the cue ball to draw quicker, not faster.
Yeah. Eventually I will do a follow-up/advanced video on the topic. Thanks, I will include that.
Thank you for uploading wow !
good stuff, thanks
Can’t thank you enough for this one. Could not figure out why I was miscueing.
great vid thanks
Excellent
Great Video
Very informative
Great video
Awesome video on something I have experienced and wondered a bit about. Great editing and theory. You have a new subscriber!
Thank you!
I noticed that your forearm is always 90 degrees to your CUE, not the floor.
I cannot believe that never clicked in my head.
It instantly improved my cue action when taking this into account.
I miscue a lot less, and my stroke feels more natural.
Thanks!!
It’s not all about bridge length it’s more about keeping the cue as parallel to the table, the comment the grip being slightly forward from the desired 90degrees is the reason for miscue is correct. This results in a see saw scoop.
The elbow drop is just as common or more so among professional cueists, Ronnie O’Sullivan the greatest snooker player drops his elbow on even soft delicate shots other professionals not so much although on power shots the elbow always drops if only slightly.
The other clues including a light and flexible grip are on the money and the most important of all is keeping the head still until completion.
The bridge should not be over long or over short and depends on different players different techniques.
All pool players can improve their game by adopting a snooker technique, errors in technique are magnified in the more precise game of snooker. All advanced snooker players can play pool at a high level with out altering technique . The reverse,pool to snooker needs a complete overhaul of the pool players technique.The power draw is better with a longer backswing .
Awesome!!¡🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
top of the line stuff
well done helpful class king arthur
You don’t just chalk over a shinny spot, you use a rougher! Stroke keeps stick level. Snap gives you draw. Like karate, like a whip
I seldom use a draw shot. I prefer to get position with a follow shot, which is easier to perform and far more accurate.
Yep, that's what I do sometimes
What kind of cue are you using? Is that an extension in the middle? Very informative video by the way. I will definitely show it to my teammates.
Makes sense that elbow drop will help.
"Common sense" is not a path to truth:
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@@ShortstopOnPool Bring your back leg closer and get a better stance. That will help also.
The Mighty X by Bert Kinister is the best way to build an amazing draw stroke
Perhaps! I believe that the Mighty X is exactly that, when we’ve already got great technique for our draw shot and we are tuning that stroke. If our draw stroke technique is riddled with holes or has a few major leaks at longer distances, the practice routine showed by SSOP is the way to go.
I think there's another factor that compounds the miscue problem. As you elevate your cue, "center ball" elevates with it, and of course the miscue limit elevates as well. So the dip in the tip position might seem very slight, but the slight rise in the position of the miscue limit adds to it, turning a small error into a big one.
you are right but that's way they go so low with the head. i play a game called skomager its like 3 cushion billiard and its very normal to have a more upright position with means that
the elbow is not strait up in the air when you are down on the shot but the cue angle is the same.
I have been working on my power draw lately ,,amazing videos are coming out just recently about it. Darren Appleton just did 1 about a month ago about same type thing,,but different .lol
I use predator 1080 chalk,,the octogon piece. And the last piece I used had a rock stuck in it,or a piece of metal ,,very small but caused a ripple in the chalk. Everytime I chalked I could feel resistance and it almost knocked the chalk out of my hand.
I then noticed the hard spot in it.
I used a knife and dug it out. I have never found anything stuck in a piece of chalk before???And I used this chalk for a lomng time before I noticed this. Wonder how many times it wiped more chalk off than put on???
I must say this is one of the best explanations I have seen. I am going to test this out now. As I do mis cue at times and cant figure out why. The stroke feels good even when mis cue.
Thank you thousend Time
:21 I REALLY like that wooden rack, what brand is that or where do I get one?
www.satoriflatrack.com/
Looks like a Z3 shaft to me 🤣💪👍
Its a Vantage
This is the way