1 Man Crew vs 10 Man Film Crew // Recreating The Adam Project
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
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00:00 Intro
1:00 Storyblocks
1:48 - 1 Man Crew
9:20 - 10 Man Crew
15:04 - Budget Breakdown
17:57 - 1 Man Scene
19:40 - 10 Man Scene
21:08 - Parkers Thoughts - Фільми й анімація
the 1 man setup was way more eye pleasing in my opinion looks natural
Agreed, I prefer it, the acting in the takes was better too, although that creaking door at the end 🤣
Agree, 10 man crew has way too many colors and unnecesarry camera movements.
I agree bro
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought that
No way. They were two different styles, and I didn’t like the solo shot of male talent, but overall the 10 man was WAY better.
I honestly liked Jake’s version more because I thought the ten man crew look cgi in the background of the Reynolds shot. Jake’s shot looks more realistic and natural. Props to Jake.
I really like the color of one person's work. It really looks very comfortable and natural. The color of a team of 10 people seems too artificial, but the sound quality of a team of 10 people is undoubtedly good
The 1 Man setup hair looks way more natural for someone alone drinking at the bar. Nice job man! Im impressed
Really disliked the complete darkness behind the dude in the 10 man crew. Other than that I think a 4 man crew would have probably hit the sweet spot for this: makeup, sound, dp and director
Same I noticed that too
Looks like they didnt use a fill light.. no seperation from the backdrop and the actor
And also , Editors are required
The darkness pulled me out of it. I also didn't love the color grading. I thought same thing, 4 man crew.
and the makeup horrible OMG HAHAHAHA the first look way better cheaper but better
I felt like the 10 man scene was just a shy too wide, except for that last shot where I felt like they were on the money. It made me feel like I was separated from the scene, rather more immersed in it.
@@fulltimefilmmaker sound design was amazing on that 10 man team though from the guy recording it to the editor in post. Love the background music and the unnoticeable cuts between their dialogue. Would love to learn more on that!!
@@filminandy1829 I second this!
ngl, this was really something special to watch. learned A LOT here.
That’s so true, it was amazing! Could been here watching bts from films for hours 😍
agreed, i love watching creatives being good at their crafts
10 man crew was over colored and over-lit. The grade made the bar lights look like sodium vapors. The shadows were crushed/too dark to the point that the it made the practicals look pointless. The skin was also too yellow. They definitely had the production value, but Jake's looked much better and more filmic. The 10 man crew looked like a cut scene from a PS5 game.
I agree, the crew’s shot of the male actor threw me off and honestly disengaged me from the dialogue because of how dark the background was compared to his exposure. They should have thrown some ambient light into that back wall to lift the shadows. Great job otherwise.
I feel the same as well. I liked Jake w look better
@@graysoncole8516 Agree with the ambient in the background!
I'm also curious, did the 10 man crew worked according to their own decisions or did they consult each other? I mean the DP, the editor and the colorist? because they should be working together for the final output, it seems that the DP and the post production team had some difference in the interpretation of the scene, the color scheme and mood did not match to the emotion of the scene
PS5!!! Lol yes I agree!.
Overal Jake’s really felt better and more natural. The only thing I could tell that really separated was the audio. All the other things matter for sure, but lighting was overdone and super sourcey from the teals, grade was also overcooked and skin tone on female actress looked very unnatural. Skin tones on male actor on 10 man crew was right on the money, but the whole look was too crushed and too “blade runner” for a more relaxed and natural vibing scene.
Audio really is the main differentiator though
COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER
Comparing that scene to blade runner is an insult to blade runner and all the people that worked on it
Couldn't of said it better myself, pair Jake's with the audio from the 10 man crew and that would have been it..
Also I'd be looking for a different female talent.. one that has a bit more acting experience haha
exactly, sound designing is really a half of te picture work
yes! natureal!
I felt like 10 men crew, "sound" was comparably better and other areas weren't as much noticeable. Color wise, Jake's color was better
For me 1 man has won. It's natural and better. The acting is outstanding.
Ttly agreed
The acting is outstanding ?? Have you seen the actresses’ look and reaction as the actor says his last line ?
you must be joking right?
the acting is ok at best
Here's the real answer:
It depends on the project you're working on.
Sometimes it makes sense to be a solo operator, have a couple of assistants or a full crew.
What this proves is that the acting is biggest determining factor of what makes something feel pro.
seriously the guy killed it! real Chris Hemsworth feel
100% Jake's color/lighting looked better overall imo.
100%.. the other crew made it look too fake and contrast-y. esp. if we are comparing it with the source material.
I actually think the grade is overdone, the skintones are also just wrong and oversaturated in the second one - the lighting is 100% better, cameras on the dark side of the face, and the practicles
@@AxTechs the lighting on the leading males face didn't match at all with the rest of it though, but it could have just been the grade
@@AxTechs you can do a lot in the grade, yes, but i don't think that's 100% of the case here.
@@alexfagard3618 I think it is in this case - the lighting from the crew one is following basic cinematography rules and 3 points lighting techniques whilst the Jake's solo one isn't, as he didn't have the time - also this is shot in r3d meaning WB and iso are controllable, with some power windows you can pretty much do anything in post, this grade was just bad
This just made me more confident in a one man crew, the vision is easily shared if it’s minimal to one person. Might take a lot of work but Jakes felt real and relatable, 10 man crew felt like sci-fi look.
1 man was way better, angles and overall vibe. The angle filming the guy was especially what separated it for me, 10 man crew looked like it's going to be a different genre of a movie, Jake made it look more personal. Great piece overall and good job on the video guys!
Definitely agreed and as someone else said, they screwed up the lighting angles on the 10 man crew. The grade fell into the Red skin tone valley that really hurt the goal to match the ARRI look of the Adam Project. Loosing the background on the 10 man crew wasn’t great.
I agreed, right off the bat, with Parker that the 10-man camera moves were more
interesting. The Motion is smoother and more collaborative in part because of the slider. But, wow, Jake comes close to selling the scene, which has a good script to begin with.
100%
Very interesting to watch. I'm a one-man band myself, sometimes juggling three cameras, and it's a challenge, particularly the sound.
With this video, I was much more impressed with the one-man version than the 10-man version. With a large crew, it should obviously look great. When one man does it as good as here, it really shows his skills.
I personally think Jake's was better overall. One of the only things that really stood out to me were the audio of the ten man film crew, in which it is extremely apparent that it was done by someone who specializes more in that area, and someone who is really really good in that area as I might add, Doug May is incredible. The other thing that stood out to me was the wardrobes. I think the wardrobes for the ten man crew told more of a story, as the art director said, and I think it was also apparent that that was handled by someone who specializes more in that area than Jake does. Overall, I think Jake's felt far less hectic and felt more intuitive in how it expressed the emotion of the scene.
First again nice vid I’m a 15 yr old editor and filmmaker trying to start out and you guys’s videos have taught me a lot and I am considering getting the full time filmmaker course.
Well good luck, and don't give up.
Im the same age and want to be an actor, and i really dont know where to start. These videos are really informative about what happens behind the scenes, how they do it.
Dude some advice get this course and complete by the time your graduate I know you can build yourself up doing film making full-time rather than having college dept or working a 9-5
I’ve been thinking of getting in filming I’ve been editing for 4 years or 3 years because I don’t know the exact date
10 man crew lighting during the exchange at the bar came for two different directions. He was lit from the right where no light was coming from, while she was lit from the left which made it appear that she was being lit from the direction of the bar and therefore more natural. A classic case of overthinking the lighting.
I'm shocked how much tiny details can change the whole scene, the candles and the bowls of snacks really break up the big real-estate of the bar top making it look more intimate, plus they are excellent practical lights in the original scene. I think placing a candle where the reflection of the exit sign and left of the actress would take it up a whole another level.
this was really cool to watch, great content all!
Sound design was where I really felt a difference in favour of the 'fully crewed' end result. It really hits the right spot in recreating the mood of the scene. It's my mantra, whenever I work on a low-to-no-budget project I always try to make sure the sound is given as much thought as the visuals.
This is such a great tutorial. A big crew can help you with all the little things, but it's great to see what just one man can do as well. Kudos!
If I didn't see the 10 men version I would of thought the 1 man version was the 10 lol. Such a great job here, thank you!
1 man crew looked naturally cinematic
10 man crew looked like straight out of a video game for some reason
Wow ! Lighting on him was so much better by the 1 Man "Crew"!! It was SO harsh and bright in the 10Crew Light setup! Also Saturation grading was way to much in the "big" crews scene ! GREAT job Jake.. You are totally worth it XD
This was an awesome comparison! Loved both results, it’s impressive how well the one man kept up with the crew 💯✔️🔥
The 10 men crew one felt somehow over processed and stiff, like it was the 20th take or something so all the authenticity of a real conversation faded away but it did looked more professional in the technical areas. In the 1 man crew you can really see the vision of a creator coming true. It feels much more natural and raw. It was also really great having the actors bring their own clothes and doing their own hair because it looks perfect for the actors themselves which gives the sense of realness. Overall it was such a great video and it was really interesting seeing the true process of making a movie in all of its different aspects. Amazing work! 👏
I love seeing this kind of behind the scenes work - As a fan of this technical work, I don't really see the value in some of the higher priced help for a scene like this. The extra camera dolly shots were clean and made it work well, and maybe that's really the visual difference between a low budget and high budget film. I didn't see the value in the lighting differences for the 10 man. Honestly - I think it's hard to compare a 10 man shoot versus a 1 man shoot of a Hollywood movie scene remake. A person doing a "budget" film would work the shots and lights to best fit their capabilities and time rather than trying to match all the shots from the original film that probably had way more than $10k to make that scene (not including the real actors costs).
Its jaw dropping to see how much work you guys put in to creating this! Absolutely amazing. Loving what I'm learning from you peeps
I recognize Kyle from Red Finch. Always helpful and knowledgeable about the gear. And I've appreciated Brett's work from afar.
I'd say one thing that was jarring to me in the 10 person crew version was the jump in lighting on the male actor between shots. In the wide, he's backlit and in the reverse shot, he's super high key with a black backdrop. It makes him look fake, like he's on a green screen.
I'm really loving the contrast between these takes. In the 1-Man crew, although shot pretty simple, I feel more connected with the scene and the characters, as the colors feel more natural and the performance feels more real. While the 10-man crew feels so artificial because of the bright colors, the cinematography feels better and more engaging. Though, one thing I prefer are both the acting and clothing design choices on the 1-man sequence. It feels more natural like these are people in a bar, compared to the 10-man crew sequence, leaving it more like a commercial. Overall, a great experiment, and loving these ideas!
Waiting for that video all my life! Ty!
10 man band switched the light around on the actors. And those bright spotlights in the background are burning my retina.
I loved this video! I don't make film or anything, though I do love making scenes through photography and digital art. For me, I'd go in the middle with five people, because I KNOW I couldn't handle all of that by myself! Great work, Jake!! :D
I also love the colours, the mood of the scene. I really like how cozy the 1-man-team scene was, by the way. I think I got a great mood with that one especially. :D
In Jake's position, I would DEFINITELY appreciate having the help from all the other awesome people who specialize in what they do, but honestly I liked Jake's solo version better! It felt more raw, real, authentic, natural. Only thing I preferred from the 10-man crew was the sound & music.
Brett!! Awesome to see you do your stuff!
I'm happy to see that my 1-5 man crews I use is perfect for the quality I need. Awesome video! This channel has become the best in the filmmaking community!
1 man crew had more consistent lighting than the people that did the actual move 😅🤣
Jake actually did a great job considering he was a one-man crew. The actors were great.
Thank you for making this. Definitely worthwhile hiring a few folks on set and this exemplifies why. Jake working alone was bringing back horror memories of me trying to get everything right myself. It's always worth the cash to get it right, especially audio.
Once again, thanks to the full crew! You guys are so amazing!
The wide shots and the two shot at the end def looked better on the 10 man but the reverse on the actor looked pretty bad. I feel it was mostly the lighting and then also makeup being completely overdone (I get that they were going for the RR look).Sound mix and camera move was truly what made the biggest difference.
Great job on both versions. Jake's version was more naturally lid and looked overall more natural. 10 man grew version definitely sounded better and had better visual language regarding to camera work and choices. Both had moments when each were better vs. the other version.
But what got my attention most was the differences in acting. Maybe partly because the talents had a change to "rehearse" in Jake's version before the shooting of 10 man grew version but I suspect that having a grew on board Jake was able to fully focus on directing the talents instead of spreading his focus too widely that made the difference. Couple subtle acting choices that especially Amy made in the second version had a greater impact on me, thought in Jake's version there was at least one choice she did that I liked more. There were some added dialogue in second version too, but what really got me was couple subtle longer pauses/silent moments in the second version that had greater emotional impact and elevated the experience for me.
The more the director is able to focus on talent, the better the performance usually is. Jake if you are reading this I would love to hear what was your experience (and if you had feedback from the talents) regarding directing the talent and helping them to bring the best possible performance on each version. Do you feel like having more time and focus on them made a difference, and if so in what way?
Having a bigger crew is definitely the way to go, but it's also smart to learn all the roles.
For instance: Back in the summer of 2020, we were only allowed to have a certain number of crew members on set (Thanks Covid) , so we had about a 4-5 man crew throughout the duration of filming. Some days, you have to wear a lot of hats.
Good way to highlight the importance of sound - definitely adds a lot of production value to the 10-man crew, as much as people focus on the cinematography (mainly lighting) in these kinds of things.
The sound design aside I would go with the 1 man version every time, especially with regards to lights and coloring.
Fantastic one boyz, I'd love to know how much time a 1 man crew spent vs the 10 man. Being a 1 man crew myself I know it takes so long to prep everything especially if you want things to look decent 😅
We actually each had 4 hours!! That’s why i had to rush things haha
@@JakeWeisler thanks! 🙏♥️
@@JakeWeisler Only 4 hours!? Ouch!! You gonna go far, dude!!
Amazingly high effort content, love the way that this was put together. Great job everybody
this was a great idea! fun to watch and also informative and inspirational. thanks for making!
I really liked this comparison! It shows a lot of things, but basically that a pro can do wonders by himself, but that next level needs the crew and more attention to details.
I think I liked the male talent's look without makeup more, he looked more natural that way.
*I agree with hiring a Soundman. That one-man crew is very good for Shorts.*
You know, I really love that you guys do these, especially since I’m currently in the middle of (second attempt) producing my first ever short film (paying for everything myself, not really paying the random people I’m picking to act) with an idea that came to me.
One man crew basically, and oh one of the scenes I’ll be acting in it.
Loved watching this video! Can't wait to see more like this 🔥🔥
Interestingly, I kinda liked Jake's work a little bit more- minimalist lighting, actors' look and lens choice.
Me too. In general. The lighting on the female actor was a bit better on the 10-person crew (she just needed a bit of hairlight in Jake's 1-person version), but other than that and some lens choices, visually I felt Jake's was more appealing. (No offense to the rest of the crew! They were both great!) But I'm also a fan of motivated, "natural" feeling lighting, and the lighting/coloring on 10-pp crew version was a bit too stylized for this kind of scene.
I love the first one if I have to choose for film because it’s more natural but for youtube i love the second one all of you are amazing
Bro I really enjoyed this video and learned soo much at the same time, Please keep these coming!
Even more value than the technical, lighting, and video, having a crew provides a synergy that just can be matched by one person. Ideas flow and the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
Ya I much prefer Jakes scene. I felt it looked far more natural vs the 10 man scene. I agree with others who have pointed out that the 10 man shadows were totally crushed. The talent looked like they were under a spot light on a stage.
One man crew for me. In the 10 man crew the shots of Adam were weirdly bracketed by the lights mounted on the back wall. The same shots with one man crew only had the neon sign hanging in the back and seemed more natural to me.
Simply amazing to see the behind the scenes on what it takes to film the perfect shot, both were amazing :)
Bro I learned so much about production from all angles in this one video.. there definitely neeeed to be more of this, please
wow that Guinness is standing out too much, my eyes are caught into it like flies, and overall with other lighting, composition, I give it a 7/10.
Change your eyes. 😂😂
Agreed. Much better in the one man
Jake's version crushed it!! Make-up was way overdone in 10 man version.
Really love that focus pulls that 10 man crew did for the last shot!
Unreal team! So great to see this pull together! Jake your a monster! Thanks for sharing your talents !
I felt something "weird" on 10 man crew scene. The shadow on actor face is in the difference side at the face compared to the actress. That's make I feel the actor is on a different ambient.
it would have been good to know for comparison what time it actually took to get one setup done. Does Jakes 1 man crew needed double the time to finish it off? Its all about efficiency and quality vs cost. we just saw the quality and the costs.
also to my suprise, i liked the acting + looks of the 1 man better. the male talents hairstyle just matched better to the personality and the setting imo. in the 10 man their chat was less touching and i felt less connection between them somehow
great video, great comparison, overall awesome idea! keep it up ;)
Waiting for that video all my life great job 🥂
Is that Ryan Gosling?
😍
I preferred some of Jakes lighting better on subject I think he competes well in that area. I definitely preferred the longer lens over that choice of wide. Wide seems less serious less cinematic for this type of short. The long lens grabs the emotion better. The larger picture would be time savings. If one person does all the tasks it adds up. With a crew you cut that time easily in half and more. That’s the larger benefit. Great job Jake! Thanks for this guys!
This is incredible content. Thank you.
Great BTS video, very insightful! Would love to see more of these 🙌🏻
It's weird, I thought Jake's cu of the female talent looked way too soft especially compared to all the other shots. But I also thought the male talent shot on the 10 man crew looked really awkward, like it was overly graded or green screen. But overall, awesome bts video!!
Right? What is the point of shooting in an expensive set that ends up looking like a greenscreen shot?
One thing I haven't seen too many people talk about is the editing. The 10 man crew edit was very polished and not jarring like the 1 man crew one. It's very subtle and I feel like that's a reason a lot of comments haven't said anything about it.
Excellent excellent excellent. Instant subscribe. Love how you clearly take us through your process. Been there so many times and learned a lot with how you problem solved it.
Amazing project. Love all the different techniques used
I think the whole one man crew was way better than the ten man crew! Lighting, camera, acting, the whole thing was so much better
As I see it less is more! And the camera shots was a bit smoother too.
I think the 10 man crew's background is way too crushed. They have a great space and you don't see any of it. Also I think the their color saturation is way over the top. Hands down the one man crew nailed it. I would have added some camera pill-ins in post production to sell it a little more. Great job.
I would say this is the most informative video I've ever watched from you guys
Thank you so much
First off this video is fantastic is so helpful and educational. Both teams did really good jobs and I can't believe we live in an age now that something so educational on filmmaking is for free on UA-cam. Something I noticed that hasn't been mentioned is how important the editing is. If you watch the original scene, they choose much better moments to cut from either actor. "But Ill tell you something" line from RR is exclusively on Garner's character. She's becoming more comfortable with him. When you cut away too fast, it feels like their connection isn't blossoming between both characters. Anyway good job to both teams.
In the age of Tiktok and social media, 1 person crew is all you need. Sure having a big crew may look slightly nicer but no one will remember it after 1 day.
That's a sad true
I prefer the 1 man crew. Looks raw. 10 man crew the male actor looks too clean
Love this type of video guys!
My god the audio difference is astonishing
I think jake got much better performances out of the actors when he had the 10 man crew, but I liked the color grade on his solo version better. The sound design and lens choice on the 10 man crushed it tho. Just had a much more Hollywood look. The solo screamed local short film with a budget.
Dude wtf! The colors and the image is terrible on the 10 men crew. The skin tones are way too orange and looks like it was shot with an iPhone (too digital and over-denoised)
Whereas the one man crew just nailed it. Looks like a legit Hollywood movie.
Yea, I’ve shot stuff on my pocket 4K that looks 10x better than either of these with very simple grading
personal taste, but I disagree. the 1 man crew looked a little more flat and clinical (like a film set. :EDIT: to be clear for 1 man it's great, better than I can currently do). the colour and lighting on the 10 man crew looked dark and moody like it was happening in the real world (looks more like a david fincher film..... reminds me a bit of the opening scene in "the social network"). both did great overall though
This is really cool to see :D Would love to see more of it
Impressive acting. That a directional microphone can produce that velvet voice tone is incredible.
My take away from this video: Do your goddamn project on your own. 10 men crew wasn’t bad, it was hideous.
Haha. Jake did awesome. And the acting was better because he was directing.
It’s impossible to work as a one man on cinematic project and here is why !!!
…this is a simple Scene ! and everything is copied for the purpose of the video i get it and it’s okay ..but when we deal with clients with tall storyboard and new scenarios and scripts and new video ideas and the video should submit in one week at minimum! The one man will do so trash work and it’s fact coz he will have no time and he will never be able to do all his thoughts in this short time ! in the end …if i want perfect results same what we all agreed about as a perfect results !! I need to pay the one man more than what i will pay for the crew !! Coz i need everything in extra time as location and cast and equipment !
By the way I’m same jack i can do all but would never do it with my projects
Overall Jake did good results but we see that colouring is not good at all with bad skin tone
Lightning flat !
And for the movement of the camera was boring movement as a cinematic movement
And sounds design was really bad not even close to cinematic
And for the crew I just didn’t like the work of the director coz he can do better and control the team better!
And there is absolutely no fairness in choosing the same director for both sides of the comparison
Excellent instructional video ! Thank you for doing this
What a super explanation and well-made video. I can't just thanks enough for the effort to make this videos ❤️❤️❤️
This really shows the 80/20 rule at work. 80% of Hollywood budgets is spent on crap no-one will ever notice (beard enhancement? Come on!), and which adds nothing to the main thing that matters: story.
The takeaways here for me are (1) if you know what you're doing and what you're looking for, and have a bit of patience, you can get something to look, sound, and feel 80% as good as a mainstream production, and (2) if you have a creative idea, just do it! Don't wait until you can find a way to find 10 experts to fuss around with every detail.
These series are like a pot of gold. So much valuable information 😸
Really informative stuff, great job!
CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS VIDEO!
INSANE video boys, you guys crushed it. No one is doing this, big respect. I thought hair and make up in the 10 person scene was a little too perfect looking, and wish there was more room tone light behind the guy, make the key look super sourcey. Overall both insanely good!