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I re-recorded this mission that's why I play with different people here. The mission was so easy so I turned Aldaris AI to insane and replaced Zerg player with Protoss (white). Special thanks to Tamamo and Zenmaster for joining.
This in my opinion is the worst SC1 mission writing-wise. There's really no legitimate reason for why Aldaris couldn't just tell the others what he discovered, and apparently, he didn't even tell his fellow rebels what he discovered. If even just one other rebel knew of what Aldaris discovered about Raszagal, then Kerrigan's entire plan goes up in smoke right there.
Aldaris couldn't think of anyone to trust on this delicate matter, not even Zeratul given how much he holds Raszagal in high regard and because unlike his kin he is NOT linked to the Khala. And for all Aldaris knew, Zeratul could've been complicit in Kerrigan's plot given how easily he trusted her. And given how much he relies on it, I don't think communications tech was something he considered given his pride.
Considering Aldaris answer to Zeratul whole long paragraph speech as "We shall see". There could be problems in transalating between Aiur and Shakuras language
@@rRecoveryProd yeah the only down side and im sure this is due to retcon, sense the khala is the melding of their thoughts and emotions i would think artanis would know immediately what aldaris knew, i hate how they turned the khala from a religion they believed in to a hivemind principal
Ah, yes, the most controversial mission in terms of storywriting. Where Protoss IQs are being nerfed to dumb idiots falling to Kerrigan's ploy. Aldaris should've been smarter than this.
The writing is questionable but I can see Aldaris acting like this. He's prideful and sees himself as a defender of Aiur and Protoss honor. He doesn't trust Zeratul, Raszagal, the Dark Templar, Artanis, etc; so he takes it all on himself to expose Kerrigan's influence. Still, when the battle was in full swing and Zeratul had returned to Shakuras, there was no reason to withhold what he knew until after the battle. Artanis' "Kerrigan has changed" was really bad though.
@@JH24821 The fact that he learns from his mistakes in the previous campaign only to repeat it again in this one is just plain character assassination. No, not literally when Kerrigan killed him. Imagine if in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where in Thor, he has to work himself to become worthy in the eyes of Asgard, only to be unworthy again in Thor: The Dark World. That'll undermine anything Thor did in his previous solo film.
@@razorback9999able Indeed. But you can also argue that he just couldn't look beyond his pride and prejudice. Even with him being right about Kerrigan he still chooses to go to war openly instead of taking a more discrete approach.
Standing here, I realize you are just like me trying to make history. But who’s to judge the right from wrong when our guard is down I think we’ll both agree; violence breeds violence but in the end it has to be this way
Either Kerrigan was using her super duper mind powers to hinder the Protoss, or something else, because holy cow they made so many bad decisions in this campaign with the death of Aldaris being the culmination.
It feels like the entire theme of brood war is bad decisions due to rapidly changing conditions, constantly pressing for time and space for resolutions, and the need for alliances and collaborations
Alternate Happy version of this map: No Protoss tries to kill each other, but the first side to mind control 12 of the neutral critters on the map wins!
Meanwhile, on StarCraft Alternate… Upon returning to Braxis, Dugalle informs of Duke's rebellion with some incomplete false information and orders Stukov and Davis to deal with the traitors. As this was exclusively a Terran matter, and because he's orchestrating things from behind the scenes, Duran's Tribe sits this one out for now. As such, only the Captain's forces, the Cronus Wing, and the Delta Squadron who think siding with Duke isn't the best choice. After plowing through two decoy Battlecruisers, Duke ejects from the CNV Destiny inside his Siege Tank, which is theb surrounded by Davis and Stukov as they try to hash out what exactly is his reason for this insurrection. But that's where Duran and his Dark Templar steps in and they swiftly silence him, making their leave once they're cast out by Stukov.
Suddenly the Conclave's dogma against the Nerazim seems just an inch more rational if they have such formidable mind controlling powers at their command. Not enough to justify their actions of course. Maybe it's been a while since I played this one but I don't recall it being 'easy' by any means.
It's a very easy mission in all the coops and singleplayer as you easily snowball Aldaris by Mind Controlling every strong unit of his during assaults and even stealing some of his carriers and mass producing some of your own. The next map is quite the challenge though, especially when you want to flex on Zerg and destroy them beforehand
- Aldaris: Here is the proof that Kerrigan is actually controlling matriarch. It is solid enough to rally so many warriors under my cause. - Kerrigan: Oh no! My fail-proof plan that relies on everyone not asking questions at all. And battlecruiser fully covered in Torrasque clones tier of plot armor!
Because mind control isn’t temporary. It literally crushes the target’s mind and turns the body into a mindless puppet. When the DA releases the body from their control, all that’s left is a crumpled corpse. In other words, the moment a DA touches Aldaris’s mind, there is no more Aldaris. Of course… it didn’t matter since he died anyways. Kerrigan really played em for fools.
Kerrigan: "Aha! I _MANIPULATED_ you into doing... something you were actually fully planning to do before I showed up. I'M SO EVIL" Artanis/Zeratul: "OMG YOU'RE SO EVIL." And yes, this is what they're mad about - not killing Aldaris, no. This is what gets talked about in the next mission briefing, with no mention of Aldaris' murder.
I re-recorded this mission that's why I play with different people here. The mission was so easy so I turned Aldaris AI to insane and replaced Zerg player with Protoss (white). Special thanks to Tamamo and Zenmaster for joining.
Was happy to help! ^^
Wait ,what? the original version of this map had a Zerg player?
@@rRecoveryProd The co-op version had Zerg in it. I removed them because Zeratul says Kerrigan had no right to interfere in this matter.
@@ExecutorNral Good call to change it
heh was about to type "executor, who is these humans?"
This in my opinion is the worst SC1 mission writing-wise. There's really no legitimate reason for why Aldaris couldn't just tell the others what he discovered, and apparently, he didn't even tell his fellow rebels what he discovered. If even just one other rebel knew of what Aldaris discovered about Raszagal, then Kerrigan's entire plan goes up in smoke right there.
Aldaris couldn't think of anyone to trust on this delicate matter, not even Zeratul given how much he holds Raszagal in high regard and because unlike his kin he is NOT linked to the Khala. And for all Aldaris knew, Zeratul could've been complicit in Kerrigan's plot given how easily he trusted her.
And given how much he relies on it, I don't think communications tech was something he considered given his pride.
I think so. Khala existed but Protoss keep fighting unresonably.
Indeed... I really love how it was done in the alternate mission where the Dark Templar are UED and Aldaris is Duke.
Considering Aldaris answer to Zeratul whole long paragraph speech as "We shall see". There could be problems in transalating between Aiur and Shakuras language
@@rRecoveryProd yeah the only down side and im sure this is due to retcon, sense the khala is the melding of their thoughts and emotions i would think artanis would know immediately what aldaris knew, i hate how they turned the khala from a religion they believed in to a hivemind principal
Ah, yes, the most controversial mission in terms of storywriting. Where Protoss IQs are being nerfed to dumb idiots falling to Kerrigan's ploy.
Aldaris should've been smarter than this.
The writing is questionable but I can see Aldaris acting like this. He's prideful and sees himself as a defender of Aiur and Protoss honor. He doesn't trust Zeratul, Raszagal, the Dark Templar, Artanis, etc; so he takes it all on himself to expose Kerrigan's influence. Still, when the battle was in full swing and Zeratul had returned to Shakuras, there was no reason to withhold what he knew until after the battle. Artanis' "Kerrigan has changed" was really bad though.
@@JH24821 The fact that he learns from his mistakes in the previous campaign only to repeat it again in this one is just plain character assassination. No, not literally when Kerrigan killed him.
Imagine if in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where in Thor, he has to work himself to become worthy in the eyes of Asgard, only to be unworthy again in Thor: The Dark World. That'll undermine anything Thor did in his previous solo film.
@@razorback9999able Indeed. But you can also argue that he just couldn't look beyond his pride and prejudice. Even with him being right about Kerrigan he still chooses to go to war openly instead of taking a more discrete approach.
By using Power Overwhelming, the scene with Kerrigan and Aldaris just become the Revengance Punching Armstrong meme
Standing here, I realize you are just like me trying to make history. But who’s to judge the right from wrong when our guard is down I think we’ll both agree; violence breeds violence but in the end it has to be this way
Either Kerrigan was using her super duper mind powers to hinder the Protoss, or something else, because holy cow they made so many bad decisions in this campaign with the death of Aldaris being the culmination.
She did indeed use super duper mind powers control one of their leaders to take her side.
It feels like the entire theme of brood war is bad decisions due to rapidly changing conditions, constantly pressing for time and space for resolutions, and the need for alliances and collaborations
If only Eliphas open the portal, we may still have Aldaris to fight Sigmar and Archimonde!
Tassadar from the Void: *I TOLD YOU ZERATUL AND ARTANIS, STOP SIMPING!*
"Those of us still loyal to Aiur will never be slaves to Kerrigan and her boobs."
Speak for yourself, Judicator! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Alternate Happy version of this map: No Protoss tries to kill each other, but the first side to mind control 12 of the neutral critters on the map wins!
At least Artanis called Aldaris "friend", of sort.
Well, Aldaris used to be Tassadar's boss or more likely peer
Meanwhile, on StarCraft Alternate…
Upon returning to Braxis, Dugalle informs of Duke's rebellion with some incomplete false information and orders Stukov and Davis to deal with the traitors. As this was exclusively a Terran matter, and because he's orchestrating things from behind the scenes, Duran's Tribe sits this one out for now. As such, only the Captain's forces, the Cronus Wing, and the Delta Squadron who think siding with Duke isn't the best choice.
After plowing through two decoy Battlecruisers, Duke ejects from the CNV Destiny inside his Siege Tank, which is theb surrounded by Davis and Stukov as they try to hash out what exactly is his reason for this insurrection. But that's where Duran and his Dark Templar steps in and they swiftly silence him, making their leave once they're cast out by Stukov.
And its amusing how the Alternate writer made sure that Duke, Davis and Stukov were at least a little smarter than the Protoss in the OG timeline.
rip amusing
Aldaris could have just send a psionic message, or at least a space e-mail, a memo, a SMS or something
You are no longer welcome AMONGUS
Thank you so much for having us! En Taro Nral!
Suddenly the Conclave's dogma against the Nerazim seems just an inch more rational if they have such formidable mind controlling powers at their command. Not enough to justify their actions of course. Maybe it's been a while since I played this one but I don't recall it being 'easy' by any means.
It's a very easy mission in all the coops and singleplayer as you easily snowball Aldaris by Mind Controlling every strong unit of his during assaults and even stealing some of his carriers and mass producing some of your own. The next map is quite the challenge though, especially when you want to flex on Zerg and destroy them beforehand
- Aldaris: Here is the proof that Kerrigan is actually controlling matriarch. It is solid enough to rally so many warriors under my cause.
- Kerrigan: Oh no! My fail-proof plan that relies on everyone not asking questions at all. And battlecruiser fully covered in Torrasque clones tier of plot armor!
Y'all need some good ol' fashioned DISCIPLINE
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Also 1:16
And guys, this is how "Writters"become SC2 plotwritters for one last time...
Why didn't Artanis use mind control on Aldaris if he had dark archons? And easy change his mind
Because mind control isn’t temporary. It literally crushes the target’s mind and turns the body into a mindless puppet. When the DA releases the body from their control, all that’s left is a crumpled corpse.
In other words, the moment a DA touches Aldaris’s mind, there is no more Aldaris.
Of course… it didn’t matter since he died anyways. Kerrigan really played em for fools.
I prefer here alternative mission. Where you play with Aldaris forces against Executor's.
Were the Aldaris targets and the neutral structures in the first mission the big reason why Yellow was never a playable army in this campaign?
Kerrigan: "Aha! I _MANIPULATED_ you into doing... something you were actually fully planning to do before I showed up. I'M SO EVIL"
Artanis/Zeratul: "OMG YOU'RE SO EVIL."
And yes, this is what they're mad about - not killing Aldaris, no. This is what gets talked about in the next mission briefing, with no mention of Aldaris' murder.
Is the tamamo playing in this the same tamamo that was a dev on turtle wow? If yes then greetings, I am still sad that kamino was canceled by shang :(
6:47 it's a shame Fenix never learned this trick, would've helped him in the zerg campaign
he missed the chance to join them in Among Us. :(
Kerrigan is impostor
among us
If Aldaris stop talking like that and straight to the point, he MAY survive to SC2.
And Artanis, you better stop simping or die like judicator.
1. This is amusing no more
2. Aldaris tribe rebelled
3. How come aiur archon doesn’t have special abilities while dark archon have them
Because an auir archon deals insane damage while dark archons deal no damage but have spells to make up for it.
Amusing, Executor your choice to have somone else kill Aldaris is inexplicable