bro i do not endorse this level of psychologial warfare man the poor people are playing to have fun and you are out here making them quit. im not saying that that people like viego are not deserving it but still... DANG with that i wish you a nice day
tilterella, how good do you think this strat would work on something like bard, thats very good at roaming? it would be much harder to steal camps but do you think it would work?
Honestly you have become the only League streamer that is interesting to watch because you have fun doing this wonky shit at a high-level. But if this ever happened to me I would tilt into another dimension.
The panic I felt watching the evelynn do everything she could to survive in the pit at 8:00 and your team just barely saving her each time she almost dies lol
never have i been happier to not be a jungle main, i swear to god if this gets real traction and people start sapmming it, jungle players gonna need to be on suicide watch.
The problem is that as a jungler who generally plays flex with friends if the enemy tries this cheese tactics i can stop them with my team mates but doing it alone in solo q by also probably ending up flamed is terrible.
@@marcocomastri2283 It's a soloq strategy, yes, that's mostly the point of tilterella with most cheeses, you can even see in the first minutes of the game when viego got helped by jax and they just killed sion If this were to happen in a coordinated team it's really easu to just say "Botlane, come here, free kill, better than 6 minions"
I love this strat so much. It's not fun at all to sit in lane, carrying a farmer for 15 minutes until mid decides they want to ult on some lvl 4 snacks.
my freind tried this, it actually works XD he then got banned for 2 weeks (that was bc he is a busy person and left more than once a month, not bc of this strat) (he needed a break BADLY so its also fine) (also now i can play my favorite role, support, as opposed to mid without him being sadge)
I'm genuinely impressed with how helpful and understanding your teammates were even when not everything went according to plan and how they always reacted and tried to play around you
@@Tilterella don't ever let Riot tell you how to play man, this is our game, took a while for junglers to become a thing, I can't wait to see this strat pulled off in worlds one day
holy fuck man. i remember discovering Jacob Lee’s Demons from your video a couple years ago and i completely forgot about it until now. great stuff man
I'm pretty sure you used the second song in one of ur video's already bcs I remember really liking it and putting it in my playlist. I listen to it often. Great vid man, love this strat! :D
I have been close to punching my screen several times just watching this. I really love that you exist on the rift because no one on the rift deserves a reasonable game. Troll away mate.
One trick I really like is for jungle or invading sion is rush umbral glaive with zombie ward. The item is so cheap as 1st item and I have so much vision control from it for the entire game.
I must say- this was beautiful... I already found out that, for example, smite Ivern support is annoying as hell. Trying to find my special annoying playstyle with different support champs now. I managed to play smite Morgana support, hard early, but once you get like lvl 4, you can roam around the map and start annoying. I denied like 2 crabs, Herald and some camps from the enemy jungler. But he was very active on lanes and our jungler wasn't able to use these advanteges... he was like 30 CS behind in 10 minutes.
As someone who played league on and off for 10 years I find it genuinely impressive that you’ve cultivated such a unique way to mind fuck the enemy. What’s equally remarkable is the fact that you always manage to find the most cheesy, trash songs to dub over your gameplay! 😄
Oh yeah. Did you know that pinging wards first, even if it's a little bit after it goes invis, you get 5g as well as a little thingy on the map showing the invisible's ward and its remaining time ^^ Even the infinite time of blue and pink wards :p
I think the big take aways from the cheese strats are that people only know how to play exactly one form of league of legends. They have a super well honed set of senses and ideas but don't know why people do what in the meta and the costs and benefits of strats. A shark can fuck you up if you fight it in the water. Tilterella does the equivalent of plopping the shark down in the boxing ring where its just confused. Meanwhile he's honed in, trained in the art of the Fiesta. Unflappable. You've been boxing sharks every day for years.
Thanks so much for putting this strat out there! The first game I tried it the enemy udyr added me afterwords to spam the n word and got his level 600 account permabanned!
@@Tilterella The friendlier the name the angrier people will get. Anything stating you are improving the jungle experience will provoke a response 🤌 "MakeJungleGreatAgain" also works. Golden content, thank you!
You know, it could be really fun if you will choose to make a full gameplay video once in a while. If you would like to, I just really wanna learn how to do it myself!
I am convinced players like Tilt are a symptom of what happens when you allow a single role to command so much responsibility to the success of a match. Jungle's increased priority and importance while also increasing their vulnerability to these tactics leads to some interesting results.
Pretty cool idea can't see it working very well into a bot lane that does correct wave manipulation because your adc will get dove every 3 waves so probably hard to pull off consistently above oce dia, would be interested to know the winrate and the mrr of the games
Hello, I just watched all your videos about Sion support with smite. I think it is great off-meta strategy. I myself have a playstyle, that griefs the opponent jungler - OTP Ivern jungler stealing as many red and blue buffs as possible. In every game I invade blue, so I can know where the enemy jungler starts. For this strategy to work I just need 1 ward on tip of blue bushes. It reveals so much space. With that knowledge I can mark all my camps on the opposite site of jungle, then head toward his buff he didn't start on and steal it with smite. Sometimes I am not 100% sure if the opponent starts red/raptors or is just hiding from that ward. In that case I stay between wolves and raptors, so I can choose my path according to his start. I guess as a Sion you don't have that possibility to adapt your strategy as soon as the camps spawns, but let me know if it is good advice for you. In 1 of your videos you mentioned that new jungle items costs 100 more gold and you can no longer start with control ward. I also was buying control ward level 1 as Ivern jungler. I had 2 spots that I would put it in: If I went for the blue buff steal, I were placing it in bush between blue and mid. I was usually placing it on the tip closer to river, but I was recently convinced, that tip closer to wolves is better, because it shows when enemies are passing between mid and wolves. If I went for the red buff steal, I were placing it in bush between red and bot t2 tower, in the tip closer to red. This way it spots when enemies pass from raptors to krugs. As you can notice I try to put all of my wards on tips of bushes to reveal as much space as possible. Also my control wards are placed in bushes that rarely someone pass by, but reveals paths that are often used. Lastly: Do you think that Ivern support with smite would be as good as Sion? I can see some advantages and disadvantages of Ivern: In early levels he needs up to 40s to clear the camp unless he use smite - than it is instant. If fight occurs camps will never hit Ivern, but will hit the enemy. Ivern is very bad in solo fights - or maybe I am bad in solo fights 🤔. Is teleport necessary for playing support with smite? I personally love playing with hexflash. It allows me to move around jungle full of walls faster, but also escape from so many dangerous situations. I can be in my own bush in place that I shouldn't be in. By the time enemy check it I am already loading hexflash to be on the other side of the wall.
Also the thing players often don't know about Ivern: He needs level 5 to share buffs. That's why it is so important to get to level 5 before second "wave" of buffs spawns. I guess it would not be possible on Ivern as support with smite. Players have 1 minute after the buff dies to take it. Buff is shared only to Ivern and 1 other teammate. So for example if toplaner takes red, then adc can't take the 2nd copy of it - only Ivern can. So often players don't know about this and ignore the possibility to take the buff :/
I really hope this strategy gets a lot of traction and something comes out of it because my fucking god do junglers and laners need to get better at helping eachother, at every god damn elo.
LastLite: mids ulesss as sholt LastLite: I mean u are LastLite: Imgalnt hat LastLite: no team Lastlite: u want top sup Lastlite: Im duo I got a warning for this have screen shot to prove
Curious how this does against my Ivern. I'm usually stealing the other teams stuff most of the game, but if you mess with my full clear pre lv3 I don't think I could stop you
Something I didn't mention: By pulling the Blue and resetting it, the enemy botlane can't afford to stick around and leash.
bro i do not endorse this level of psychologial warfare man the poor people are playing to have fun and you are out here making them quit.
im not saying that that people like viego are not deserving it but still... DANG
with that i wish you a nice day
@@acenuke2513 they are playing ranked, you think they get to have FUN? very funny.
tilterella, how good do you think this strat would work on something like bard, thats very good at roaming? it would be much harder to steal camps but do you think it would work?
@@YSleepish look up pollypuf
@@YSleepish lol you right noone is allowed to have fun playing league
This whole video was so full of clench worthy moments, I was actually bouncing on the edge of my seat the whole time, so well done
Glad you enjoyed it :}
Honestly you have become the only League streamer that is interesting to watch because you have fun doing this wonky shit at a high-level. But if this ever happened to me I would tilt into another dimension.
So you would be tilterelled :D
@ld5k3 That account is, yeah. The main is in masters though.
The panic I felt watching the evelynn do everything she could to survive in the pit at 8:00 and your team just barely saving her each time she almost dies lol
If by team you mean ME then yes :P
@@Tilterella True I thought the malphite blocked the akshan ult, all you bb
Okay, that Swain E pull right at the end there was just pure bliss
I took to the comments just to find someone who said this and agree with them
Glad to see that Riot's nerf to counter jgling is going to plan
Really just shows how insanely strong it was pre-nerf :p
never have i been happier to not be a jungle main, i swear to god if this gets real traction and people start sapmming it, jungle players gonna need to be on suicide watch.
have been since season 5
The problem is that as a jungler who generally plays flex with friends if the enemy tries this cheese tactics i can stop them with my team mates but doing it alone in solo q by also probably ending up flamed is terrible.
@@marcocomastri2283 It's a soloq strategy, yes, that's mostly the point of tilterella with most cheeses, you can even see in the first minutes of the game when viego got helped by jax and they just killed sion
If this were to happen in a coordinated team it's really easu to just say "Botlane, come here, free kill, better than 6 minions"
I love this strat so much. It's not fun at all to sit in lane, carrying a farmer for 15 minutes until mid decides they want to ult on some lvl 4 snacks.
Yuumi players triggered
my freind tried this, it actually works XD
he then got banned for 2 weeks
(that was bc he is a busy person and left more than once a month, not bc of this strat)
(he needed a break BADLY so its also fine)
(also now i can play my favorite role, support, as opposed to mid without him being sadge)
I'm genuinely impressed with how helpful and understanding your teammates were even when not everything went according to plan and how they always reacted and tried to play around you
i doubt this is soloq.
@@XOXOChosei it is soloq, it's just that this is OCE platinum
3:47.
Sion: I derive no pleasure from this.
UA-cam audience:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Playing against that has gotta be the most frustating shit
This is hysterical! I cant believe how he gets wolves and impunely/shamelessly walks to his red side. This is priceless!
the bausffs is a very good sion, but ill always prefer your sion over his. great video as always.
I feel like they're the 2 sides of sion, one playstyle is all about selfish play to carry, and the other is about selfless play to disrupt the enemy
It's cool how they have completely opposite playstyles, the good and evil Sion
in the game from 3:25 i cant belive how perfect your team played around your shenanigans it was awesome to watch
Thank you tilterella for resetting my father's aggro so that he stops hitting me with his belt
u can just smite him when he sleep bro
ROFL
Average druttut viewer
high quality gameplay with dubious morality
Tilt u are making a new meta cross between jg and support, with a top laner. You're the reason I play sion lol
it is interesting to see "Top mentality" spread across the map.
@@Tilterella don't ever let Riot tell you how to play man, this is our game, took a while for junglers to become a thing, I can't wait to see this strat pulled off in worlds one day
bro that zhonya out of nowhere around 10:20 was insane
0:40 "im not greedy" yeah sure buddy, we gonna believe u
Getting a Christmas ad about friendship, during the video was a perfect fit
Tomfooleryella is my favorite UA-cam channel. Keep up the cheese! This Sion Support/2nd Jungler playstyle is super fun to watch!
holy fuck man. i remember discovering Jacob Lee’s Demons from your video a couple years ago and i completely forgot about it until now. great stuff man
Man, you are reaching peak performance. I don't think I've seen such clean plays from you.
I'm pretty sure you used the second song in one of ur video's already bcs I remember really liking it and putting it in my playlist. I listen to it often. Great vid man, love this strat! :D
@10:24 i wonder if thats the actual Lagunarium from runescape :) always love the vids my dude, rip to the sanity of junglers in OCE
Tilterella is the league that knows the most what role people should focus on negating at the early game.
I have been close to punching my screen several times just watching this. I really love that you exist on the rift because no one on the rift deserves a reasonable game. Troll away mate.
Love watching this strat.
You're the one with LL stylish that i keep watching over and over the years ! Love you re gameplay
One trick I really like is for jungle or invading sion is rush umbral glaive with zombie ward. The item is so cheap as 1st item and I have so much vision control from it for the entire game.
Your game knowledge is truly wonderful thing to witness
Just to say - however many years ago it was, and this video reminded me, thanks for introducing me to Jacob Lee!
The amount of map awareness my head😂. Great vid
I must say- this was beautiful...
I already found out that, for example, smite Ivern support is annoying as hell. Trying to find my special annoying playstyle with different support champs now. I managed to play smite Morgana support, hard early, but once you get like lvl 4, you can roam around the map and start annoying. I denied like 2 crabs, Herald and some camps from the enemy jungler. But he was very active on lanes and our jungler wasn't able to use these advanteges... he was like 30 CS behind in 10 minutes.
Purely chaotic evil on the chart. Love it.
As someone who played league on and off for 10 years I find it genuinely impressive that you’ve cultivated such a unique way to mind fuck the enemy. What’s equally remarkable is the fact that you always manage to find the most cheesy, trash songs to dub over your gameplay! 😄
THAT swain pull was SOOO satisfiying
I just love that you make this strat work, king
That bait at 10:42 tho, pure gold
this video brought a tear to my eye 😭❤
5:17 nami bubble dodge is clean
Thanks man, I did this strat with Ivern... and broke my loss streak.
I was slapped in the face by this strat the other day. Went searching and found your videos. Now I'll have to try this as well, evil evil strat.
I love how the viego just trusted you about his krugs and it got him killed
that viego was me and i felt so betrayed me and sion were having a friendly chat about his annoying strat then i was setup
Tilterella's videos are always a banger
Loving the content and music thanks tilt!
in my opinion, league should be like that, but like, 1 tank in top, 1 tank in bot, 1 mage in mid, and 2 jg being a adc and support
Just some of the best damn league content out there. Keep it up man!
Tilterella is fearless
I LOVE THIS STRAT, PLS MORE, I WANT MORE, MORE, OR MORE
All chat with krugs being gone was genius
How to be a menace to junglers 101
Titlerella out here out playing Junglers in their role as support
THIS IS GOLD!!! NICE SONGS TOO!!!
Oh yeah. Did you know that pinging wards first, even if it's a little bit after it goes invis, you get 5g as well as a little thingy on the map showing the invisible's ward and its remaining time ^^ Even the infinite time of blue and pink wards :p
That elise in game 2 was nutty bonkers
Love it and hate it. Got real mixed feelings here
Sounds like the thumbnail summed it up nicely.
"i'm interested in elo not dragons" LMFAO
I think the big take aways from the cheese strats are that people only know how to play exactly one form of league of legends. They have a super well honed set of senses and ideas but don't know why people do what in the meta and the costs and benefits of strats.
A shark can fuck you up if you fight it in the water. Tilterella does the equivalent of plopping the shark down in the boxing ring where its just confused. Meanwhile he's honed in, trained in the art of the Fiesta. Unflappable. You've been boxing sharks every day for years.
I could watch this all day
Great Vid Tilt!!
0:52 NO WAY JAX LEAVES ANNIE TO HELP JUNGLER? the first time seen ever.
Ahh, yes. The 360p video quality.
UA-cam so slow
Same problem XD, probably because of the phone version
I watching at that crisp 720p quality.
@@javiernapoli4518 Hahaha nah i was on desktop.
I cannot believe how you trolled that poor Viego...
Thanks so much for putting this strat out there! The first game I tried it the enemy udyr added me afterwords to spam the n word and got his level 600 account permabanned!
Need an account name like "Junglers best friend", "Jungle lane" or "Junglers love me"
Junglers Worst Enemy
@@Tilterella The friendlier the name the angrier people will get. Anything stating you are improving the jungle experience will provoke a response 🤌
"MakeJungleGreatAgain" also works.
Golden content, thank you!
You know, it could be really fun if you will choose to make a full gameplay video once in a while. If you would like to, I just really wanna learn how to do it myself!
Last video is a full gameplay
@@Tilterella I meant like without cuts, just a full duration of a game. I love your playstyle It would've been cool to see 100% of a game imo.
I am convinced players like Tilt are a symptom of what happens when you allow a single role to command so much responsibility to the success of a match. Jungle's increased priority and importance while also increasing their vulnerability to these tactics leads to some interesting results.
high elo cockroach, simply amazing
YOU ARE A MENACE! 🧡
Tilt just brings a whole new level to what supports can do. Don't just sup bot, sup the team XD
Pretty cool idea can't see it working very well into a bot lane that does correct wave manipulation because your adc will get dove every 3 waves so probably hard to pull off consistently above oce dia, would be interested to know the winrate and the mrr of the games
A pro gamer move i make at higher elo: turn of chat and pings.
Everyone and their youtuber:😮😮😮
Junglers may hate it but I sure as hell don't. I love these videos so much!
that pull at the end there... omg fucking great.
Can you post full gameplays of every sion smite teleport game seems really entertaining when it's full gameplay thanks
Thanks to you I got a 3-17 smite tp sion in my game, nice.
You are literally built different!
ahh 360p. I will come back. I promise!
i will never have the balls to try this cuz i requires me to use my brain more than usual.
wait a minute. i dont even play this anymore
Have you considered future's market for this build?
Tilterella, do you think this strat works in low elo?
Or do you think there is a certain rank you must be to play this strategy?
this is terrifying as a jungler
Créative player, i love your art
You have some of the nicest friends lol
Satan is real he plays league, and this is his channel.
@tilterella do you have any back up champs for when you start getting your sion banned?
Hello,
I just watched all your videos about Sion support with smite. I think it is great off-meta strategy. I myself have a playstyle, that griefs the opponent jungler - OTP Ivern jungler stealing as many red and blue buffs as possible.
In every game I invade blue, so I can know where the enemy jungler starts. For this strategy to work I just need 1 ward on tip of blue bushes. It reveals so much space. With that knowledge I can mark all my camps on the opposite site of jungle, then head toward his buff he didn't start on and steal it with smite. Sometimes I am not 100% sure if the opponent starts red/raptors or is just hiding from that ward. In that case I stay between wolves and raptors, so I can choose my path according to his start. I guess as a Sion you don't have that possibility to adapt your strategy as soon as the camps spawns, but let me know if it is good advice for you.
In 1 of your videos you mentioned that new jungle items costs 100 more gold and you can no longer start with control ward. I also was buying control ward level 1 as Ivern jungler. I had 2 spots that I would put it in:
If I went for the blue buff steal, I were placing it in bush between blue and mid. I was usually placing it on the tip closer to river, but I was recently convinced, that tip closer to wolves is better, because it shows when enemies are passing between mid and wolves.
If I went for the red buff steal, I were placing it in bush between red and bot t2 tower, in the tip closer to red. This way it spots when enemies pass from raptors to krugs.
As you can notice I try to put all of my wards on tips of bushes to reveal as much space as possible. Also my control wards are placed in bushes that rarely someone pass by, but reveals paths that are often used.
Lastly: Do you think that Ivern support with smite would be as good as Sion? I can see some advantages and disadvantages of Ivern: In early levels he needs up to 40s to clear the camp unless he use smite - than it is instant. If fight occurs camps will never hit Ivern, but will hit the enemy. Ivern is very bad in solo fights - or maybe I am bad in solo fights 🤔. Is teleport necessary for playing support with smite? I personally love playing with hexflash. It allows me to move around jungle full of walls faster, but also escape from so many dangerous situations. I can be in my own bush in place that I shouldn't be in. By the time enemy check it I am already loading hexflash to be on the other side of the wall.
Also the thing players often don't know about Ivern:
He needs level 5 to share buffs. That's why it is so important to get to level 5 before second "wave" of buffs spawns. I guess it would not be possible on Ivern as support with smite.
Players have 1 minute after the buff dies to take it. Buff is shared only to Ivern and 1 other teammate. So for example if toplaner takes red, then adc can't take the 2nd copy of it - only Ivern can.
So often players don't know about this and ignore the possibility to take the buff :/
11:09 tilterellagasm
I really hope this strategy gets a lot of traction and something comes out of it because my fucking god do junglers and laners need to get better at helping eachother, at every god damn elo.
7:11 That Ashe it's literally an NPC
For not wanting to 1v1 a full hp sion and instead try to kill the 1 hit enemy jg?
Mental Warfare at it's finest.
This just goes to show that if adcs just play safe they’ll be fine in lane regardless of support presence
ok, 29 november. That last Swain Sion clip made me lose.
Is there any other champ you can do that on?
LastLite: mids ulesss as sholt
LastLite: I mean u are
LastLite: Imgalnt hat
LastLite: no team
Lastlite: u want top sup
Lastlite: Im duo
I got a warning for this have screen shot to prove
Has the play style moved from smite sup to double jg?
Curious how this does against my Ivern. I'm usually stealing the other teams stuff most of the game, but if you mess with my full clear pre lv3 I don't think I could stop you
Your team's ADC probably also hate when you do this