Proof of Uber Eats Driver Paycut Australia
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Delivering in Sydney. Rates are ridiculous now, starting from saturday (17/02). One of these days they offered me 13 dollars for an estimated 47 min delivery, which is basically paying to work for them when you deduct costs. I thought it would be something temporary, maybe a bad day, maybe too many drivers that day, but it has been like that everyday for a week now.
That’s what you get now get get back in your house with covid as army helicopters swarm
Yep a definite decline. Shop and pay orders are alot worse too. Spoke to a few regular customers and they have said prices of food have gone up but delivery fees have been reduced.
You are 100% spot on..and thankyou for making this video and please do contact fairwork and give it to them! There has been a drastic reduction in income from uber over the past 2-3 weeks, I do it fulltime and my average earnings have dropped by about $7-$8 per hour currently at about $15ph before tax and expenses..so even before they started exploiting us further I was only earning $22-$23 ph gross..I can't believe they've done this and if they are saying that they haven't changed anything when it's quite easy to prove that they have they need to revert back to the way it was and back pay everyone that's been underpaid over the past few weeks..
Don't see how food delivery by car can ever make economic sense; Petrol, depreciation, increased insurance, risk of copping fines. Moped or bicycle for short city deliveries seems like the only possible way to make profit.
Had one come though just before sitting on the lounge, $14.03, 34 minutes and 22.4km. Take out fuel, wear and tear and tax, take home around $6.-$7 Absolute joke.
Had a heap of $5-$7 offers come through where the km were the same as $.
Absolute garbage if they say the km are still in the algorithm.
Countries that do not place legislation on Uber lose out in a way that they end up subsidizing the ones that do.
It is pathetic, ive just gone off my lunch run 2.5hrs, accepted all orders that came through during that time, 4 orders( 2 orders are double) with total earning of $49.66, no quest. 1. $10.03(22m28s 8.5km) 2. $16.98 DOUBLE ORDER(54m27s 8km) 3. $13.25 double (30m49s 5.1km) 4. $9.40 (21m57s 8.1km). how is this worth any1's time??? minus petrol and car service, i think i earn more working in a factory in Vietnam or something
Yea Mate, been a noticeable drop the past week or so.
Had an offer came thru today $7:78 for a double both Woolies pick up 3.5km, 2 weeks ago had ONE pick up from Woolies $9 for 4.2km.
Lot of orders coming thru much less than $1 per km & as you worked out mostly around the $20-$22 per hour.
Total crap, rejecting the majority of orders, will only take the odd decent one that comes thru :(.
Quests here on the Gold Coast for quite some time we only get in the evenings from 5-9pm mostly all 3's @ $9 for up to 12 drops.
Just need to get everybody to reject all the crap, they will have to do something if no-one is picking up the orders.
The price per hour also depends on if food is ready to pick up at the restaurants, without long waits too.
I've noticed the drop, especially when it comes to shop and pay. Shop and pays are almost paying half what they use to.
I know my car costs apox 17c per KM so usually $6-7 per hour. But I like to know roughly how much I'll spend on ea order.
I definately noticed last week and felt something was off. Going out on friday night i didnt have a quest, and just kept getting really low stacked offers and addons. Or if i did get a decent offer like $12 it would be for 17km. I had to decline so many offers it was a waste of time. Two weeks prior i had a friday night quest and got $170 for 3 and a half hours.
In REALITY, it's an INTELLIGENCE TEST and IF you do any work for Uber at the moment, you fail the test, your NOT INTELLIGENT and don't go back in a big hurry. It's Uber who MUST learn something and ONLY THE DRIVERS can teach them.
Uh... you're...* the irony eh?
Well they wont ran out of international students who are willing to sign up! Especially Indoans 😂
Thankyou oh wise one! Your intelligence is truely dazzling, helpful, and informative!
Pay dropped a while ago in Melbourne. I have been hitting them with fare reviews
Where do you review them?
@@ammy1977 go to the help then choose trips then choose the trip you want to review the fare and go from there
It is killing me. I can't do it for this slave money. I'm down 50%.
i never do deliveries under $7, no maccas and no doubles unless they both have a minimum of $7 & coles orders have been ok - although i did get a 12 items for $12 last time
Used to earn $50 and hr with Uber now $20. It’s a fucking joke. Pack and delivers used to get $45 now $18. RIP Uber eats
Yes, I'm in Melbourne and noticed a dip of rate/trip since a week or two ago.
I'm in one of UberEats new markets and had been doing quite well over the last 6 months since it started here, averaging about $35-$50ph. Now I'd be lucky to hit $20ph even putting my foot to the floor and risking speeding fines. I used to start my drive time at 4.30pm weekdays and 10am weekends, head into town (8km) and wait for orders, finishing at 10pm when everywhere closes. Since the change on Thursday 13th Feb, I sit at home and decline decline decline until an order bounces back to me and the $ outweigh the kms. Almost every single offer is less $ than kms. If they come back paying double or more than the original offer or works out to more than $30ph, I get off the couch lol.. UberEats absolutely disgusting pay now. Take home pay is now about $10ph after expenses & tax.
I have definitely noticed it. I took a few weeks off after Christmas and came back recently and noticed the offers were significantly lower than they were previously (and these were offers comparable in the past ie same restaurant to same area).
It is at the point now where I only do nights when quests are available and even then am earning a little less per hour than I was before Christmas on a night with no quests. At first I thought it may be a Law of Averages thing but it persisted and now seeing this video and reading comments from this wonderful community it is not just me.
Thank you Chris for the time you sacrifice on your channel to keep us informed.
I’ve been doing it a year and a half now bro and approaching 4000 deliveries and I can tell you for certain that in my market of the Gold Coast Uber eats pays around $20 per hour. Every city and market is different but they will always pay the minimum amount that drivers in that particular market are willing to accept and still show up to work. Also, the busier it is, the more they pay the drivers, for example, you’ll get more on a Friday night than you will on a Tuesday night and with a quest you’ll get between $25-$29 hour again depending how busy it is.
They only pay by time, the kms don’t matter. Also the times are grossly under estimated as they don’t take into account waiting time or problems with traffic and finding customers. So you’re looking at about $20 per hour on a good day. On a bad day much less
The time estimated is just a guide as for me personally I end up completing my orders quicker than the time displayed so roughly anywhere from a 2 minutes to 10 minutes quicker.
This issue I see is that things are not as bad if we were getting back to back orders but hardly anyone is so you'd get 1 order and then another but then it would stop for 10 15 minutes then get another order then go quiet for like an hour before getting another trip.
Sydney boosts where never >1.3 and quests stopped march/april 2023.
That's when I stopped the food gig (fortunately found a job in my field just in time). Spoke to a UE driver 3 weeks ago (ran into him while doing my shopping). He showed me his app, and he is making about $18/hr prior to deducting tax, petrol, car wear and tear. In reality, he is making something closer to $10-12/hr. :(
Far cry to the good'ol days of $40-60/hr (yes there were days I averaged $60/hr), I used to make back in 2021-22.
Tax on $14.55 per hour on a 38 hour week is 9%.
$14.55 per hour = $505 after tax per week
I've had a pay cut when uber changed batched orders, treating it as a single order. Offer $6 for 2 orders when was minimum $9, cancel 1 of the orders and there is a minimum $5, that's cancelling an order for $1. I've cancelled an order from a batched offer and lost nothing.
Hey mate, the reason its $23 is thats minimum wage in aus for this type of work, and i bet uber are trialling it cause come july 1st , uber will have to pay all drivers that still drive for uber $23 per hour. If you didnt know the aus gov passed a bill that uber must pay drivers $23 per hr from july 1 24
I knew that bill would actually f#ck things up for drivers
Shop & Pays is where i made the bulk of my income. used to get routinely 12 item ones for over 20 or 30$ pay to only go 5 or so km. Just 2 weeks ago got a 9 item that paid 40$ to go 9km. Then got same order this week roughly going same amount of km pay 13$. Time to get out
Look at it this way [ Reality ]. You're in business, your supplier has increased their prices to a level where there is no justifiable profit in doing business with them anymore, what would a business person do? IMMEDIATELY GET A NEW SUPPLIER! and stop doing any business with the current one. If you don't YOU are PUTTING YOURSELF OUT OF PROFIT AND OUT OF BUSINESS.
I believe they said they posted a profit so that's why it probably changed
Definitely dropped it’s a frig joke. Cost living going higher and Uber resorts to slave labour by dropping their fees.
The offers shown in the video are the types of offers I've been getting for months on end... I've been doing about 40 hours a week, averaging about $20 -$24 p/h for months..
The Km's are not being calculated into the offers. On longer drives the offers are often well below $1 per km.. Sometimes as low as 65-75 cents per km....
So, I just pick & choose as much as possible, smash the bonuses when offered & do doordash too..
I'm just hanging in there(barely).
The only possible salvation I see comes from Satoshi🙌😅
I have been sitting at home declining almost every offer from uber eats in the last week. Occasionally the same offer comes back again at a reasonable amount and I take it. I only take offers that work out to $30/hr or more and I will simply continue to decline anything below that..
I dont understand why anyone is accepting these offers that work out less than $30/hr (before expenses) I am sure if no-one accepted them Uber would quickly be correcting this change.
@@CoastingSC That's it, It's bullshit they make ridiculous offers but everyone knows their priority is their bottom line. It's even more ridiculous to accept their crap then complain about it.
I have been paid 13 dollars for total of 3 deliveries...... took me 40 mins or so.... soooo fkn low... I hate this so much........ what does fair work goona do??
Nothing, because you're doing it
Yes in melbourne they offer same exactly like you show in the youtube. But you know what, we have to be smart than uber. You have to do multiapping with DD or menulog, and give uber last priority for delivery. That way you can get reimbursement from uber.
Dasher rates have dropped as well in syd
Mate, it was a lot more than a week ago for me - I got my first $3.00 orders from Uber way back in November/December last year, which I quickly straight out declined each one. Disgusting! I have a loose $7Up rule - decline almost anything less than $7, and any doubles that are less than around $9-$10 (I look into these a bit when they come in to see if they're worth it - ie from same restaurant, going to same street/apartment building, etc). I also noticed a lot more $7 - $10 doubles which traditionally would've paid around the $12-$14 mark. I haven't done food delivery over January & February as it was quieter than normal (holidays, new uni students just settling into Sydney, etc), and have been doing Airtasker. I'll be jumping back into food delivery soon, so will be able to see what's happening (and declining any disgusting orders that come through on Uber! haha) again. For the record, I'm in Sydney and on an e-bike.
Cheers,
Neil
Last January 23 it dropped then dropped again this January.
And with the last update of the drivers app you can't check what you have earned or check your wallet while you have an open order, Just another way to keep us in the dark then out delivering.
Yes I notice since last week, my usual orders get cut by half 😢, but most orders still better pay compared to doordash.
Pay dropped and it started with the Christmas shutdown in Melbourne (at least for me)
when i did uber in 2022 the base rates (without promos or boost) was really low compared to doordash. I recently started doing it again and found it to be higher than it was back in 2022
Noticed a massive decrease in uber pay.
Start a class action, I'd be in on it.
I’m been talking to my neighbour (Uber x) and he’s noticed with his work too. Must be across the board.
Doesnt help than min wage workers make $33 an hour pretty much 24 base pay + casual loading or paid leave which is 25% so $30 there then there 15% for super so thats like $33 dollars and they have basicly 0 costs.
To be on par with min wage workers uber needs to be paying $35-39 an hour to be on par with minimum wage workers after run costs are removed.
2 weeks ago.its a major drop.Some paying $15 30km drop off..unbelievable
I’m in New Zealand, Uber pays 90% of all deliveries, minimum wage or slightly less. They only pay for time. Uber doesn’t care at all about drivers.
Anyone notice on good friday the coles orders were high?
Yes Coles shop and deliver are paying much less no better then doordash now I thought they must have been losing money or just seeing if people will still do them we should all stop taking them but I know that won't happen
I have stopped working on uber and working more on doordash
DRIVERS! Dropping Uber immediately and choosing another is the greatest investment you can make for YOUR financial future A.S.A.P.
Yes a huge decrease hopefully there will be a change
I pretty much only drive uber when I get a quest, which as you say, has dropped off.
Otherwise DD is better, but only just.
The only saving grace for Uber Eats, is that they promote customers to tip more than DD.
Yesterday I got $12 in tips doing Uber.
DD I probably get 1 $2 tip every few weeks.
The fact these companies are trying to push tipping culture here is absolutely shit. Over here we are supposed to pay our employees a liveable wage, not make the customers carry the cost while the companies rake in the profits. I will not support that.
damn , just when i thought of signing up.
I got $11 for 16 items was 4km, for shop and pay order, from the Sunshine Coast. This pay is prolly used to be 18 or 19😊
I noticed a huge drop and also less quest
How's this for a huge discrepancy last night did four orders all doubles first two using your formula 24.61 then the last two 29.74.
Thats good pay all of those compared to what i was getting
Considering minimum wage here is $23.23 yeah that is pretty shit
That's what happens when there's too many drivers.
Uber has been gone greedy day by day. Something has to happen definitely. Enough is enough! They treat drivers like s**t. At least not providing proper support. Instead replying with automated responses. So pathetic!
Yep I can tell it's bs. Knew the coles orders had gone to shit.
yep pay has dropped so now i only except 3km for $6 , i dont get much work but f22k them
Not a driver, a customer, Chris. Is it because they're losing the lion's share of the ride market to Didi - regular user and saving $35 per trip on Didi, won't use Uber again.
He's talking about ubereats
Because in reality there is also a wait time between offers, even if only a minute or two, or a few minutes this changes everything. The scenarios that Chris runs, are great, but allow an average space between offers, a DEAD time and you really need them to calculate without wait time fantasy to $40+ per hour, so that it is $30+ per hour in reality. Now you can see how poor they are. They had something that took a lot of thought, a good business model, was working fine, not broken AND they had to FIX IT, like a vet fixes a cat, bravo idiots [ silly and unwise ]..
60h - 900$
What a rip off
yeah complete child labor pay
I'm doing door dash through dinner time and logging into uber in the background around 11pm. Once there isn't a lot of drivers the offer rates go through the roof. I've been averaging offer from $32 to $48 for for 20 to 30 min jobs.
What where you from live? Cheers
Yeah but how much down time are you having
@lachlanwilson7017
Would rather not say exactly but within a hours drive of Sydney
@@jakeaffleck3307
Very rarely get down time between 11 and 2 am between both apps.
@@jakeaffleck3307
Very rarely do I get down time between 11 and 2am running both apps
How accurate is estimated time though? If its like DoorDash I quite often deliver 10-15 mins before the expected delivery time so I wonder if UberEats time estimate has quite a bit of buffer added in too
Ubers time is almost spot on compared to DD.
It will give u a buffer of around a few mins to wait for ur order. If u dont have to wait and u go fast u only beat the estimated time by a couple of mins
@@drakeastro8131lately time estimates have been terrible ! But I have not been getting many orders anyway so i just wait most of the time :/ Gold coast area.
You cant complain about changes when you have groups of uber and uber eats drivers dropping orders and pick ups all the time.... if you damage the quality of service for users, like whats happening non stop over the past 12 months.. and this is coming from some one that spends over 30k a year on uber.. at the end of the day uber drivers are trying to milk the system so of cource they are going to change the pay rates and the way its calculated. On average i get a $5 discount from uber every 2nd order due to slow drivers or one out of 5 meals if free due to it being cold.. due to drivers trying to stack orders. think its around 4800 over 12 months in free food and discounts i have been given from uber due to drivers and there mistakes. so its pretty simple to work out that drivers are going to be punished due to the actions of others..
alot of the funds from boosts are going to uber users.. via credits as a kick back due to drivers playing games and being less reliable.. in the past 3 weeks i have had around $70 in free credit.. from uber eats. and $15 was from a campaign and the rest are from $5 and $10 credits due to uber drivers being late or not meeting there delivery estimate. i get 3/8 meals from uber eats each week cos my work pays for my lunch and dinner "_" and i have noticed massive amounts of credits being given to me.. normally its like $5/$30 over a month.
Your probably shit at your job. You don't even know what you're talking about.
You could always get out and get a real job. Working for Uber is choice.
The vast majority have a 'real job' and work this as a second or third job.
I'm home with my toddlers all day, I do delivery driving all night until around 12am. So, kindly, STFU. It's a real job. I'm f'ing exhausted by the time I get into bed at 1am and then restart my day at 6am
If you apply your rationale to other sectors, then should police officers or ambos or construction workers for example "get out and get a real job" when their unions pay demands are not met?
Do you realise that the transport sector in Australia is almost completely unregulated? Whether it's Uber or any other transport / logistics company there are no minimum wage metrics and standards whatsoever.
These employment arrangements are almost always structured as contractor / subcontractor arrangements, that are designed to benefit only the contractor, with no union representation or government oversight.
All drivers are asking for is "fair pay" no different to any other industry. Uber and just about every other transport / logistics company literally exploit and take advantage of people. There are exceptions though, I have worked for other transport companies, powered via an App and the internet who were for a long time able to pay their drivers well, but when conglomerates like Uber come along and significantly undercut the market then other transport companies are forced to lower their pricing in order to compete and subsequently pay their drivers less than what they once did. Uber has played the game perfectly, they used to pay their drivers much better to incentivize new drivers to join their fleet in order to build what is now the largest crowd sourced driver network in Australia. Now that they've established themselves as the behemoth that they are, they dominate the market offering the lowest prices and the most efficient driver fleet due to the sheer voulme of drivers they now have.
Uber did the exact same thing when they disrupted the taxi industry, they broke the law and how they did it is well documented. They knew they'd be able to get away with it and were able to operate with impunity and the Australian government were ok with it, so long as Uber paid the 250 million dollar fine they were slapped with.
Are we as people and our government not better than that in Australia? Some people have no choice, for one reason or another but to work for Uber or the likes. It is slave labour and should be ILLEGAL because that behavior is CRIMINAL! In a first world country like AUSTRALIA, government legislation for minimum wage should protect all workers!
@@georgekaras1104 I stopped reading when you asked if I knew about an award rate and then you mentioned police officers and construction workers.. they have award rates, they're real jobs if you're going to complain. Go out and get one :)
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