She's got it backwards. Moksha/enlightenment is about no longer taking births and surrendering the illusion of individuality. In Buddhist terms, acquiring the "diamond mind" means dissolving individual impressions left in the mind from past lives and having a pure, clear, undifferentiated and egoless consciousness. The eastern enlightenment teachings are unlike the western mystery schools. The latter seeks to develop a permanent god-like self ("given a white robe and a white stone in the monument of man") but the former focuses on transcending all forms by extinguishing the imaginary individual mind.
Good question. I think she might be misunderstanding the idea of eastern enlightenment and has it completely backwards; the idea is that individual existence is suffering, and we (consciousness) are stuck in a cycle of birth and death BECAUSE our minds have clung too much to individuality, personality, etc. By surrendering the "I thought" of ego and realizing our true nature a pure consciousness while still in the body, we are freed from the cycle of suffering and birth and death.
No. When a husband and wife really in love have ecstatic, loving, unitive s-x, they both want to live forever and with each other - and, above all, with God. If we fail to reach that level of love, unity and joy in our lives (and the great blissful peace that follows great ecstatic, loving and unitive s-x), then at least try and imagine what great love and joy and unity with others in general, in particular, with God is like, in particular in Heaven, and hope for it and, above all, try and work towards it!
@@edm-london1660 I hope you don't mind a little debate, for the sake of discussion. What I'm about to write isn't personal attack, it's a just a differing perspective... In Yogic philosophy, they see anything that is temporary, anything that "comes and goes" as being unreal and a distraction within Maya (illusory world). Orgasm is just about the perfect example of something that is temporary, feels great in the moment, and then quickly vanishes, often leaving us worse off afterward, as there are the burdens of childbirth and emotional attachment to the partner. Your body, your partner's body, and the child's body will all get sick, get old, and die someday. How is this blissful? How can lasting happiness and eternity be realized through desiring and getting attached to temporary, mortal things such as feelings, objects and relationships? Attachment to things that come and go, that are born and die, is the root of suffering. So for the yogis and enlightenment-focused paths, the key is to go within yourself and find that which is ALREADY eternal, already in bliss, already in union with God, and to stop projecting the "seeking" of those states of consciousness onto romantic partners and worldly pursuits.
@@edm-london1660 In eastern enlightenment teachings, one would contemplate that the wife, the husband, the climax, and the child born from the act are all temporary. All things of the world and experience come and go, are born and die, even the blissful feeling in the body. So, the yogis and monks instead go looking within their own consciousness for the SOURCE of joy, peace, and bliss to find out if there's anything that doesn't come and go, for getting attached to temporary things is suffering.
@jonmustang The problem here is the dissociation here between Heaven and the heavenly here on Earth. I'm talking about loving, heavenly s-x not just animal s-x. And where the bodies, minds and souls of the husband and wife are mysteriously unified (although paradoxically still separate - like the paradox of how light can be both particles and rays) and in heavenly love and ecstasy. And it's first about unity (in love and joy) and secondly about procreation - at least it runs in that order.
Nice to hear the western phd’s go beyond brain and dive into Mind.
I misheard her name a while back. Marie Louise From France, I thought they said. 😂🇫🇷🥖👨🎨
She's got it backwards. Moksha/enlightenment is about no longer taking births and surrendering the illusion of individuality. In Buddhist terms, acquiring the "diamond mind" means dissolving individual impressions left in the mind from past lives and having a pure, clear, undifferentiated and egoless consciousness. The eastern enlightenment teachings are unlike the western mystery schools. The latter seeks to develop a permanent god-like self ("given a white robe and a white stone in the monument of man") but the former focuses on transcending all forms by extinguishing the imaginary individual mind.
What if you WANT to dissolve after death. I would love to dissapear into the light forever.
Good question. I think she might be misunderstanding the idea of eastern enlightenment and has it completely backwards; the idea is that individual existence is suffering, and we (consciousness) are stuck in a cycle of birth and death BECAUSE our minds have clung too much to individuality, personality, etc. By surrendering the "I thought" of ego and realizing our true nature a pure consciousness while still in the body, we are freed from the cycle of suffering and birth and death.
No. When a husband and wife really in love have ecstatic, loving, unitive s-x, they both want to live forever and with each other - and, above all, with God.
If we fail to reach that level of love, unity and joy in our lives (and the great blissful peace that follows great ecstatic, loving and unitive s-x), then at least try and imagine what great love and joy and unity with others in general, in particular, with God is like, in particular in Heaven, and hope for it and, above all, try and work towards it!
@@edm-london1660 I hope you don't mind a little debate, for the sake of discussion. What I'm about to write isn't personal attack, it's a just a differing perspective... In Yogic philosophy, they see anything that is temporary, anything that "comes and goes" as being unreal and a distraction within Maya (illusory world). Orgasm is just about the perfect example of something that is temporary, feels great in the moment, and then quickly vanishes, often leaving us worse off afterward, as there are the burdens of childbirth and emotional attachment to the partner. Your body, your partner's body, and the child's body will all get sick, get old, and die someday. How is this blissful? How can lasting happiness and eternity be realized through desiring and getting attached to temporary, mortal things such as feelings, objects and relationships? Attachment to things that come and go, that are born and die, is the root of suffering. So for the yogis and enlightenment-focused paths, the key is to go within yourself and find that which is ALREADY eternal, already in bliss, already in union with God, and to stop projecting the "seeking" of those states of consciousness onto romantic partners and worldly pursuits.
@@edm-london1660 In eastern enlightenment teachings, one would contemplate that the wife, the husband, the climax, and the child born from the act are all temporary. All things of the world and experience come and go, are born and die, even the blissful feeling in the body. So, the yogis and monks instead go looking within their own consciousness for the SOURCE of joy, peace, and bliss to find out if there's anything that doesn't come and go, for getting attached to temporary things is suffering.
@jonmustang The problem here is the dissociation here between Heaven and the heavenly here on Earth. I'm talking about loving, heavenly s-x not just animal s-x. And where the bodies, minds and souls of the husband and wife are mysteriously unified (although paradoxically still separate - like the paradox of how light can be both particles and rays) and in heavenly love and ecstasy. And it's first about unity (in love and joy) and secondly about procreation - at least it runs in that order.