Facing Large American Fight Plane Formations Our Inferior Zeros Were Helpless (Ep. 9)

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  • @WW2Stories1
    @WW2Stories1  2 місяці тому +17

    Hi, thank you for watching the video. This is part 9 of an entire series. You can watch the rest here:
    Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/DGAtDc9Zt0M/v-deo.html
    Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/IuzBD_FM8fc/v-deo.html
    Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/KbgerqvBYbs/v-deo.html
    Part 4: ua-cam.com/video/HKQw3O38Bd8/v-deo.html
    Part 5: ua-cam.com/video/UNURyThSZbE/v-deo.html
    Part 6: ua-cam.com/video/ILyHWSPb7HM/v-deo.html
    Part 7: ua-cam.com/video/0-RIee0ZQ_M/v-deo.html
    Part 8: ua-cam.com/video/P7Uhn3hNrH0/v-deo.html
    Part 9: ua-cam.com/video/R0XEQbZuJWk/v-deo.html
    Part 10: ua-cam.com/video/e4gXqOM5qwI/v-deo.html
    Part 11: ua-cam.com/video/_ClYUria4do/v-deo.html

  • @johnpotts39
    @johnpotts39 25 днів тому +2

    Thats a captured zero. Thank you these are great to listen to.

  • @richardm3023
    @richardm3023 2 місяці тому +15

    Good picture of the zero retrieved from the Aleutian islands and rebuilt for testing in the US.

    • @jcjacksonconsulting4735
      @jcjacksonconsulting4735 2 місяці тому +2

      I was wondering if that low wing NON-Grumman was a Zeke, so good that it indeed Is; but do we actually know it is That particular Aleutians Zeke? :-)

    • @richardm3023
      @richardm3023 2 місяці тому +7

      @@jcjacksonconsulting4735 No tail numbers, nor any identifying marks other than the US roundels. The radio aerial is broken off from when the plane flipped over on crashing, and it has the early war canopy. This is the plane that was captured and tested during the war.

  • @richardbale3278
    @richardbale3278 Місяць тому +4

    The Hellcat was a game changer. Not as maneuvable as the Zero,but packed with armor and a knock out punch.

  • @SaveAllTheWolves
    @SaveAllTheWolves 2 місяці тому +14

    It seems foolish for a soldier/airman/sailor to fight for a country that would not even try to save their soldier’s/airmen’s/sailor’s lives when possible. Plus, those experienced pilots and crews were highly valuable assets and irreplaceable, even as Japan cared nothing of their human value. What a horrible waste, not to mention the complete cowardice of Japan to not prioritize saving the ones fighting its completely hopeless war that it never at any moment in time had even a remote chance of winning.

  • @jeffmcdonald4225
    @jeffmcdonald4225 2 місяці тому +17

    The greatest delusion the Japanese had, was that they had any hope of beating the Americans, Australians, and New Zealnders, while also fighting the Chinese, Philippine guerillas, and the others who did not want to be occupied. It was truly, staggeringly, stupid.

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 Місяць тому +1

      @@jeffmcdonald4225 In the same venue as the Germans fighting against a lot of adversaries. They got winning, initially... but it was very stupid to open the Soviet front and continue as if they were going to have enough long term resources. Both Japan and Germany were only able to win a short war and quickly get to an armistice; but the Axis was never going to sustain a long war of attrition that depended on the size of their economies, human and material resources. No amount of advanced armaments and weaponry could win against much larger enemies after a few initial battle wins.

  • @garymorgan8915
    @garymorgan8915 2 місяці тому +6

    One of my uncles served in the pacific, with what he suffered through the years afterwards tricycle down to family, wished the Japanese had went for trade agreements instead of war

  • @deguello66
    @deguello66 Місяць тому +7

    The Akutan Zero! One of the greatest disasters of the Midway battle. Once in American hands and evaluated by the west coast aircraft engineers, thus revealing all the Zeros secrets, was the death knell of Japanese air superiority!

  • @rinkevichjm
    @rinkevichjm Місяць тому +4

    What he didn’t say was that the new GM FM2 F-4Fs had received improvements making them the equal of the A-6M zeroes in performance and better armored. They had about the same maximum speed and maximum altitude and climb rates. So even fighters from the jeep carriers were good enough.

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 Місяць тому +2

      Expert test pilot Captain Eric "Winkle" Brown, who flight tested the Zero, certainly disagreed with your conclusion, in several aspects. And Captain Brown did combat fly the F4F Wildcat (Named "Martlett" by the British) extensively. He judged the Zero as better than his well known and appreciated Martlett, both in climbing performance, responsiveness, agility and overall maneuvrability. His clear remarks were that until 1943, literally "the Zero was the finest fighter"... Only fightable by using combined attacks from paired or multiple adversaries, but not "one against one"...
      Captain Brown was the most experienced military test pilot ever, having flown more than Four Hundred different combat airplanes from virtually all the different countries involved in WW-II. Therefore his, was the ultimate opinion on the relative virtues of many many adversary combat planes during WW-II and several years after it.

    • @daviswall3319
      @daviswall3319 Місяць тому

      @@alfredomarquez9777the FM-2 was a different plane from the Martlet. Tactics made the difference. The Zero had nothing on the Hellcat. Eric Brown is one of the greatest pilots ever and the Western World is fortunate that he was on our side. I praise these great men everyday that we do not have to live under the tyranny that the Axis powers would have us. A people cannot be oppressed. It has been proven over and over. Those that would oppress will always fail. I’ll be damned if I will ever accept anything else-

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 Місяць тому

      @@daviswall3319 Moral and political considerations aside, and going on to judging the specific aeronautical design characteristics alone, I would suggest you to search, find, and take a serious look at the filmed interview of Captain Eric Brown, the one that has his remarks on several designs of WW-II...
      Please study his own words and expression when he describes the Zero (which he personally flew and fully evaluated). He clearly specified that, in order to fully asess the design of the Zero, you need to understand the Japanese criteria for a fighting plane, which precluded the use of self sealing fuel tanks or protecting armor. Of course, in our occidental hindsight, we can go simply ignoring or more correctly undervaluing those aspects, and easy to say, misjudge it.
      Eric Brown not only judged the Mitsubishi A6M5 "Zero" on the conventional parameters, but truly understood its exact purpose and philosophy. Try to listen to Brown's words about the Zero. That filmed interview is a jewel.
      Four things that made me a profound admirer of Captain Brown, are:
      --His tremendous expertise,
      --His capacity of appreciation of every one and each of the airplanes he tested, independently of their origin or side (a very objective viewpoint each and everytime),
      -- His vision comming from a combat pilot himself, and being a Naval Aviator, capable of flying both land-based and carrier based airplanes, and
      --His willingness at testing ANY flying airplane, irrespective of its dangers and shortcommings, like when he flew the much maligned Me-163 Komet, no less!
      And I sympathize with him in a way, having studied myself for becomming a Navy aviator myself, which I failed to complete due to my poor eyesight suddenly developing myopia at age 17... just after having succesfully soloed.

    • @just_one_opinion
      @just_one_opinion Місяць тому

      @@alfredomarquez9777 i heard brits won the war all by them selves, magical creatures really.

  • @RalphTempleton-vr6xs
    @RalphTempleton-vr6xs 2 місяці тому +30

    The Japanese lost the war on Dec 7, 1941, it just took almost four years for them to finally accept it.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 місяці тому +5

      This is the hackneyed claim of the self satisfied, who ignore the fact that a desperate war had to be WON, at great cost.
      It also ignores that after the death of 55,000 Americans in the Vietnam War, the United States stood by importantly as North Vietnam invaded and conquered South Vietnam, whose independence was the war aim of the United States.
      It ignores the faxct that the USSR invaded Afghanistan, but later abandoned their invasion in the face of Afghan resistance. The same thing also happened to the United States.
      Indeed, the independence of the United States was secured from the greatest military power of the age when that power got tired of the fight.
      Indeed, Truman was staggered by the casualties friom the invasion of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and was daunted by the prospect of TWO more major invasions of the Japanese islands to secure a victory. Fortunately, the atomic bomb and the declaration of war by the USSR came along to bail Truman out.

    • @MLA56
      @MLA56 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@SeattlePioneerThere's a major flaw in your argument:
      World War II was a TOTAL WAR. Every asset available to the combatants was used.
      EVERY war/ conflict you mentioned after that -- including the Korean War -- has been LIMITED.
      By attacking the United States, and the subsequent Declaration of War by Germany against the US, not only did it mean there wasn't ANY possibility of a QUICK victory -- upon which Germany and Japan depended -- but no realistic chances of winning the war at all. Speaking only of the Pacific Theater, every single day after 7 December 1941, the United States grew stronger and Japan weakened.
      Operation Olympic, the planned American-led invasion and defeat of the Japanese Home Islands, was estimated to have resulted in at least one million Allied casualties, and required what would've amounted to an eradication of the Japanese people.
      The United States did NOT want to be forced into that situation; the leadership did everything reasonably possible to get a Japanese surrender before the use of atomic weapons. The Japanese refused. Even after Hiroshima, the Japanese continued to refuse, requiring the second atomic bomb on Nagasaki.
      Conclusion: Don't compare a Total War to Limited ones. It doesn't work, even if it might sound practical to ivory-tower academics with little or no military experience. Those of us (including me) who've served decades in the military and graduated from War Colleges with degrees in Strategic Studies know this full well.
      Nice try, but it doesn't hold up.

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 Місяць тому +8

      More likely, it was from Midway battle on, because at Pearl Harbor the balance of damages was in favor of the Japanese, and they still had then, a larger ocean fleet than the American one.
      Exactly like the Germans, the Japanese were expecting a short war followed by a truce or negociations. After the much longer war of attrition ensued, the Axis powers went down on a continuous unsustainable loss of men, materials, fuels and weapons.
      Size and strenght of the Economies dominated the possibility of victory.

    • @daviswall3319
      @daviswall3319 Місяць тому

      @@alfredomarquez9777right on

    • @PxThucydides
      @PxThucydides Місяць тому

      ​@@SeattlePioneerThe Japanese knew they were going to lose. All their strategy and plans turned on the weak reed of winning some "final great battle" and getting the US to give up- like the Russians did in 1905. When asked what the plan was if the US did not give up, the military had no answer.

  • @raymondkurtyka754
    @raymondkurtyka754 Місяць тому +4

    Once the hellcat appeared the zero became a death trap

  • @CurtisWebb-en5kh
    @CurtisWebb-en5kh 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you from America.

  • @jamesdallas1493
    @jamesdallas1493 2 місяці тому +3

    Very informative!! 👍👍👍👍

  • @bertarndt9953
    @bertarndt9953 2 місяці тому +4

    About 30 minutes into this story. You can see the reason Japan loss. The mentality from the fighters. US, we believe in FREEDOM. Japan, they worshipped a person and believe in death is better than life.

  • @user-cl7rq2oe7w
    @user-cl7rq2oe7w 2 місяці тому +6

    The Japanese were so arrogant in how they handled the result of their raids! Always overestimating the results

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 місяці тому +2

      Sometimes the truth doesn't cut it. Indeed, it is often said that the truth is the first casualty of war,.
      The truth was perhaps the most thoroughly abused Japanese prisoner though.

  • @mmullaley
    @mmullaley Місяць тому +1

    At 49 minutes into this video is the Japanese account of their first Kamakazi flight, and the first ship hit...the USS SANTEE. My uncle Ralf Kennedy was on the Santee and I've heard that story first hand. There's been debate over which ship received the first Kamakazi hit.

  • @galenhaugh3158
    @galenhaugh3158 Місяць тому +5

    Japan could have decided from the very beginning not to start a war, and save 29 million lives.

    • @PxThucydides
      @PxThucydides Місяць тому

      Not a sympathizer, but it was 1929 that caused the war. Until then Japan was selling silk to the US for food. Then the depression happened, and huge tariffs. Where would Japan get food? They were shut out of the Phillipines by the US, India by the British, Indochina by the French, Indonesia by the Dutch- where to trade for food?

    • @just_one_opinion
      @just_one_opinion Місяць тому

      this guy does not realise that US was sanctioning the living fukkk out of Japan, that they STOLE "froze" all Japan's investments and assets in the us. DO you REALLY think Japs attacked pearl harbor FOR NO REASON?!

  • @markkozell4817
    @markkozell4817 13 днів тому

    1 The zero maneuverability was due to its light weight so no armor 2 there was not a better aircraft made to replace it until the war was almost over

  • @SaveAllTheWolves
    @SaveAllTheWolves 2 місяці тому +1

    It seems a little ironic that the Japanese were developing their Okah Bomb at the same time the US was developing a new kind of bomb of its own.

  • @010bobby
    @010bobby Місяць тому

    the picture above was a japanese zero with US Airforce markings???

  • @erikschultz7166
    @erikschultz7166 24 дні тому

    The discussion of training is rather silly. The average American pilots had been a farm boy in 1941. While the Japanese never produce the prodigious number of pilots they would need.

  • @garryschyman99
    @garryschyman99 Місяць тому

    Is the reader an AI voice?

  • @lyleslaton3086
    @lyleslaton3086 25 днів тому

    59:24- I didn't know that November 1944 had 35 days in the month.
    AI narration sucks.

  • @davidgustavson42
    @davidgustavson42 Місяць тому

    I love the stories but the AI voice runs me away