3:26 The fact that he really asks "why fault?" shows how not even pros know the serve rules... The way he threw it into his body, his head blocked the line of sight to the ball and it also looked like even the contact point was hidden.
It’s very hard for truls to win against better players with his cheeky style he really should also focus on backhand topspin rallies instead of punch which really not gonna work under pressure.
I think it is really good that the umpire actually dared to fault the serve as it was clearly illegal throwing the ball in such an angle instead of just throwing it up. I have a good friend who 100% of the time does it and whenever I tell him its an illegal server he says "even the professionals do it and noone ever says its wrong" and sadly he is right, most of the umpires don't dare actually enforcing the rules on the professional players.
Why couldn't Truls play the same level as before?- Truls doesn't have the same level of motivation to crush Darko as he does against Alexis. Also, what we witnessed in the semifinal was an absurd level that cannot be sustained, and likely led to a letdown in the final. The European approach is perhaps in a sense more poetic and definitely more emotional, which has its advantages as well as drawbacks.
Old version of Truls had more chances to win. A newer one tried to be fast but lost a perfect placement. Truls is progressing, next time he will definitely win.
"What's he doing?" 4:07 It was a no-spin lob, and maybe even deliberate. There was nothing wrong with Darko's smash; he thought there was spin on that ball.
@@pongoholic2667 Watching Trul's strike frame-by-frame (and screen magnification), the previous 3 or 4 frames the approach _looks_ like he's delivering topspin; the strike frames show a sort of side-swipe/push action. There is scant or no topspin, and by the time it gets to DJ's racquet, no spin at all.
does, Truls have a coach? He seems to consistently do all the things a first year coach would slam you for doing! reaching for the ball, playing off balance etc
if we can't see it it doesn't mean that the opponent who has a different angle than the camera can't see it. didn't seem that truls was complaining about it either.
@@jagutichsachma Becouse they train together and are friends so ofc he don't complain about it xD And if you ever see a pro complain about it they get a warning for complaing basicly
Darko was lucky that Timo Boll didn't show up. Less than 3 weeks ago Darko got defeated by Timo 1:3 in the German National Cup Finals. Timo still is the REAL European Champion!
i would agree but unfortunately themarket does not. And Tabletennis tried to be more TV friendly (plasticball, games to 11 etc) but it just doesnt seem to connect with a wider audience. I dont know why that is, because to me its inherently interesting with how fast it is. Then there is unfortunately also the problem of production. how often do people complain about the camera angle and it is rarely changed. then in this tournament there was game in the women section that had no audio. That also does not help. @@plunderlarry
@@elmanuboy the finalists of events shouldn't lose money for attending, in any case the discrepancy in earning between table tennis and other popular pro sports is insane
@@youwaiyap2708I guess he lacks confidence against Chinese players and agility, too. Pardon me for being direct, but when I have seen him play, I cannot help but say that he is very stiff, seriously
Was Moregard too aggressive? Why was Moregard wanting to finish every attack? Darko played well on the defence and exploded only when it would earn him a point.
watched him in the ITTF WC, in China Super League etc, MT plays impulsively...... could win a string of points but risking losing a string of points too 🙏🙏
Дарко конечно молодец, но не пора ли наказывать за ноги на столе? За Йоргичем не первый раз такое замечаю. То есть ударить ракеткой стол это желтая/красная карточка, а прыгать на нем ногами, типа норм
У них в топ 20 мира мода чудить в случае победы. Улыбнуться и просто помахать рукой - это скучно. То порвать или снять футболку, то на стол залезть. Кто-то позы принимает. 😂
Зачем эти звуки из гачимучи, теперь уже Трульсу? Наверное всего 1из 7 мячей, при розыгрыше которых он стонал, выигран. Это о чем-то говорит, статистику не обмануть. И снова ключевой матч проигран по не относящейся к настольному теннису причине. Неужели топы не видят, тренеры тоже, тот же Перссон, что пыхтение только вредит, что стонущий и завывающий игрок чаще промахивается? Ну поговорите с учеными, наверняка они подтвердят, что стоны только мешают концентрации. Если надо акцент при ударах на выдохе делать, можно дышать через зубы как боксер, какие проблемы? Но орать то зачем, как на выставочных матчах?
Did you watch his match against FZD 2 weeks ago? I know he lost but could easily go the other way and he certainly didn't shit his pants. Not that I like his attitude either.
Granted Chinese still dominate the discipline, but understand that it does not make it more valuable. Also consider that top european have some wins against top chinese, and some good prospects like Felix can eventually raise above.
Yes and no. I enjoy his games, but does have an issue. His treatment of Anders Lind was insulting and weird; he has to know Lind has mobility problems and making fun of his walk, I don't know. It's like Darko has social/head problems.
@@TTWglobal FULL MATCH | Darko Jorgic vs Anders Lind | 2023 European Championships TTlondon2012 . Also TT11TV. Lind smashed his back up in a car accident a few years ago and sometimes walks stiffly. I think he also plays with a sort of stiff-back style; but that's just my impression.
Much better quality than wtt
Thanks for video and slow motion. Its realy enjoy watching. ❤
3:26 The fact that he really asks "why fault?" shows how not even pros know the serve rules... The way he threw it into his body, his head blocked the line of sight to the ball and it also looked like even the contact point was hidden.
they know, they just act like they didnt do anything wrong
I think the semi-finals, which were different in intensity, had an impact on the result of the final. Congratulations!
Guys, it was amazing!!!
Super match - world class!
It’s very hard for truls to win against better players with his cheeky style he really should also focus on backhand topspin rallies instead of punch which really not gonna work under pressure.
Darko’s backhand is too good
Given their head-to-head record, I can't say it's hard for him to beat Jorgic, only unpredictable. As often as not, he has his number.
@@-danR these big tournament is what matters
I have never seen Truls in a backhand topspin rally. But Darko is really good them. I dont think your advice would have worked.
he can't do bh topspins with his grip
I think it is really good that the umpire actually dared to fault the serve as it was clearly illegal throwing the ball in such an angle instead of just throwing it up.
I have a good friend who 100% of the time does it and whenever I tell him its an illegal server he says "even the professionals do it and noone ever says its wrong" and sadly he is right, most of the umpires don't dare actually enforcing the rules on the professional players.
Болел за Дарко)
Поздравляю! 🎉🎉🎉
Он конечно молодец. Но я не могу сказать что он хорошо играл. Для меня, трулс плохо играл.
Дарко - супер игру выдал! Браво!!!
Congratulations to Darko, I think to play in the middle was the way. TM is too unpredictable when he got wide balls.
Красавчик капитальный Ергич, молодец!
Congratulations, Darko! That's a well-deserved hat-trick.
Why couldn't Truls play the same level as before?- Truls doesn't have the same level of motivation to crush Darko as he does against Alexis. Also, what we witnessed in the semifinal was an absurd level that cannot be sustained, and likely led to a letdown in the final. The European approach is perhaps in a sense more poetic and definitely more emotional, which has its advantages as well as drawbacks.
Darko's power is phenomenal.
For sure, but the way Truls played in the semifinals, nobody would be able to compete with.
@@bloomintokyoseoul Bullshit. Alexis is too predictable.
@@bloomintokyoseoul Alexis is a stupid kid
@@bloomintokyoseoul Darko and Alexis play very different styles, so you can't make such comparisons.
Nice job! Convincing victory against a witty and cunning opponent! Gratulations from Hungary!
Old version of Truls had more chances to win. A newer one tried to be fast but lost a perfect placement.
Truls is progressing, next time he will definitely win.
It acts as a child sometimes, needs to go to the psychologist to solve his frustrations in the game
😂😂😂
@@micheldroguettExactly. I like his game but a person he’s not a man. He’s a crybaby.
@@micheldroguett Be tolerant, he is on Chinese spicies, they did something with his nerves, that’s why he’s fast.
Искренне болел за Дарко! Красавчик ! 🎉
Nice match boys!!!! Very high level🎉🎉
Darko🎉🎉🎉 You're the Hero!
The best
Where can you watch the full match?
Later on ettu.tv
I’m sooooooo……. happy for Jorgic 👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉
Darko, I didn't know he can serve so damn.... illegaly well. 😮
Well done Darko. I’m also surprised with Truls game. He’s taken more risks in his game play on top of the variation.
"What's he doing?"
4:07 It was a no-spin lob, and maybe even deliberate.
There was nothing wrong with Darko's smash; he thought there was spin on that ball.
He hand is too low
The ball had topspin, Darko tried something between smash and topspin by letting the ball dive a bit but his shot was weak.
@@pongoholic2667
Watching Trul's strike frame-by-frame (and screen magnification), the previous 3 or 4 frames the approach _looks_ like he's delivering topspin; the strike frames show a sort of side-swipe/push action. There is scant or no topspin, and by the time it gets to DJ's racquet, no spin at all.
Как ни странно если бы не Alexis , то финал был бы 100% Darko с Felixom 😅
Браво Јоргићу, фантастичан меч у коме је твој бекхенд дошао до изражаја
Так себе играл , просто повезло ему
Феликс лучше !!
Дарко молодчина! Справился с собой. Поздравляю. И жду новых побед.
Дарко вообще красава.Вот на таком же уровне пусть летом представляет европейский континент против восточного.
Darko Changed a lot from the original Best
Great match.
Darko's serve should have been faulted more than once
You are 100% correct
I was surprised he kept doing it after the fault. The umpire didn't have the courage to do the right thing
Дарко силён! 👍💪
Shame the brother's encountered cause Felix would have beat their ass lol ! :) great win for Mr Eurocup winner Jorgic
Somehow Felix needs to figure out how to beat his brother. This wasn't their last match
Dang qiu is also the favourite aganist darko. But marcos eliminated him and had no chance against darko. Thats how tournaments work
does, Truls have a coach? He seems to consistently do all the things a first year coach would slam you for doing! reaching for the ball, playing off balance etc
FINE ILL WATCH IT!
When are judges gonna start to call out all these Illegal serves....... Don't think Joric had a single forehand serve that was legal.....
if we can't see it it doesn't mean that the opponent who has a different angle than the camera can't see it. didn't seem that truls was complaining about it either.
@@jagutichsachma Becouse they train together and are friends so ofc he don't complain about it xD And if you ever see a pro complain about it they get a warning for complaing basicly
Well played and well deserved to Darko Jorgic! Nice try to Truls…
Darko was lucky that Timo Boll didn't show up. Less than 3 weeks ago Darko got defeated by Timo 1:3 in the German National Cup Finals. Timo still is the REAL European Champion!
2:3
@@Drobb19 yes, you are right. Sorry, it was 2:3. 😊 But the last set was so impressive and Darko had not a chance against Timo.
I agree!@@user-ib7gi8yd7j
Короче ему либо топс учить слева делать,либо не играть на лево сопернику,только так он может его победить.
Да вообще шок, конечно, как с такой дырой слева он смог дойти до финала ЧМ😂 Во дворах лучше играют слева😅
согласен, либо он короткие шипы поставит или в скором времени он вылетит как минимум из топ 25
Да это уже у него в крови, тренера на его индивидуальность ставили.
I need Ma Long to play this tournament
Super❣️🌞
10,000€ for darko. that's 65,000€ less than losing the 1st round of US Open 2023 main draw (ATP)
Tennis has TV money. Tabletennis does not.
@@koolkakashi125 a pity imho. i truly opine that pro pon players deserve *10x* more than what they currently earn
i would agree but unfortunately themarket does not. And Tabletennis tried to be more TV friendly (plasticball, games to 11 etc) but it just doesnt seem to connect with a wider audience. I dont know why that is, because to me its inherently interesting with how fast it is.
Then there is unfortunately also the problem of production. how often do people complain about the camera angle and it is rarely changed. then in this tournament there was game in the women section that had no audio. That also does not help.
@@plunderlarry
@@plunderlarry Most of their income comes from club teams and sponsorts, not from events were they generally lose money to attend.
@@elmanuboy the finalists of events shouldn't lose money for attending, in any case the discrepancy in earning between table tennis and other popular pro sports is insane
Ma long win
Jorgic he won this title again, but did he win to chinese players sometime? I think he playes very well only european players
He has some win againts LJK and LSD for instance, but he certainly does not raise to his full potential on the wtt scene yet.
think his BH spins trouble the European players but not the Chinese? Plus the Chinese are too quick for his liking?
@@youwaiyap2708I guess he lacks confidence against Chinese players and agility, too.
Pardon me for being direct, but when I have seen him play, I cannot help but say that he is very stiff, seriously
@@micheldroguett that's normal.
Was Moregard too aggressive? Why was Moregard wanting to finish every attack? Darko played well on the defence and exploded only when it would earn him a point.
He knew that if he didn't finish the point quickly Darko would win.
@@eduardlaurentiubaltatu4192 i thought of it. Unfortunately Darko was always in position to defend and win the point
watched him in the ITTF WC, in China Super League etc, MT plays impulsively...... could win a string of points but risking losing a string of points too 🙏🙏
Truls is uncomfortable playing against Jorgic. So he doesn't play as freely, instead tightens up. Same thing happened 2 years ago in the final.
Darko looks like a more brutal version of Vladi. If he improves his footwork - look out Chinese players! :)
Darko is a silent killer.
Что он делает слева... Это фантастика
Как два бешеных огурца...молодцы оба конечно.
👏👏👏👏
Дарко конечно молодец, но не пора ли наказывать за ноги на столе? За Йоргичем не первый раз такое замечаю. То есть ударить ракеткой стол это желтая/красная карточка, а прыгать на нем ногами, типа норм
Match is over, so how would you punish him?
You're allowed to step on the table as long as you don't move it
@@zele75ввести штрафы на следующий турнир. Выдать предупреждение, в случае повторного нарушения, отстранения от турниров
@@bgmaster8557видимо я очень далек от настольного тенниса, если теперь по столам можно ходить ногами
А, китайские спортсмены в случае победы на стол залазят?
У них в топ 20 мира мода чудить в случае победы. Улыбнуться и просто помахать рукой - это скучно. То порвать или снять футболку, то на стол залезть. Кто-то позы принимает. 😂
Ма Лонг был первым. В 2015 он так отметил титул чемпиона мира.
Остальные не придумали ничего лучше, как повторять это за ним.
Вообще это жутко некрасиво)
@@ГлебПолищук-с8о Жан Жике отжигал в свое время. Майку кстати он рвал. И бортики расх... 🤣на чемпионате Германии.
@@Игорь-г7ю2фIt is not true, two decade ago I have seen before several times, I do not remember it on so high tournaments, though
and we all knew the best is the one who just beat LYJ and Harimoto.
it's funny TB wasn't playing here? 😅😅
Fun fact: Timo Boll also won against Jorgic this year
tilte should be:
2024 Europe Top 16 without timo boll @@ttime9947
Come one Trullan
Something possesses Darko when he plays this event. He gives 120% and pulls out rockets from everywhere again and again.
That is true, but when it comes to matches against FZN, Wang Chuqin or Ma Long, there comes nothing!
Hopefully he can bring this talent on the WTT scene in the future.
Pulls out the illegal serves.
👏
European King
Alexis should have let Felix win, we all knew he was going to lose in the semis anyway
It was a close match against Truls. But true that Felix might fare better and possibly win the event.
Darko Jorgic serves are beyond illegal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it always comes to the serves)))
Excelente Darko, bajandole los humos al niño mimado de Truls!
Truls can win the world but still lose when it comes to Darko Jorgic
Bad service from darko
And in the next point, he again serves illegally.
kriegt das nicht mal gebacken...
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shame on Darko for such an illigal serve
What ? He lost a point without warning for supposedly illegal service. Wonder why.
@@elmanuboyEvery one of his forehand serves shohld hace been faulted. He hid every single one of them.
@@lilmikeycarson maybe, it's hard to tell with the camera. Even for the umpire. Only the player facing knows for sure.
With this type of game truls is eigher a hit or a miss.
Can never he a consistent winne
sa célébration fait pitié il se prend pour un footeux le mec
El comentarista, desagrado total.
Vice champion 😂
Woow, It's a joy to watch truls lose
too many mistakes from Truls
Truls always looks like a genius until someone with real genius exposes his freestyle style.
Зачем эти звуки из гачимучи, теперь уже Трульсу? Наверное всего 1из 7 мячей, при розыгрыше которых он стонал, выигран. Это о чем-то говорит, статистику не обмануть. И снова ключевой матч проигран по не относящейся к настольному теннису причине. Неужели топы не видят, тренеры тоже, тот же Перссон, что пыхтение только вредит, что стонущий и завывающий игрок чаще промахивается? Ну поговорите с учеными, наверняка они подтвердят, что стоны только мешают концентрации. Если надо акцент при ударах на выдохе делать, можно дышать через зубы как боксер, какие проблемы? Но орать то зачем, как на выставочных матчах?
Most boring match.. zero rallies.. both going for the kill shots.
jorgic has an illegal serve.
This is what happens when you run out of tricks, and lack real skills to compete with the best. Truls can’t go far with just tricks. This is proof
I suppose you're going to ignore the fact that Darko hides every forehand serve and the umpire is too afraid to fault him.
Acting like a tough guy at the end but shits his pants when playing against chinese
Did you watch his match against FZD 2 weeks ago? I know he lost but could easily go the other way and he certainly didn't shit his pants.
Not that I like his attitude either.
He has some wins against top Chinese players like LJK or LSD.
Its only european low level...
The difference between you and top Chinese is the same as the distance from the big bang to now.
@@kennethselin1398 big bang theory🤔
Granted Chinese still dominate the discipline, but understand that it does not make it more valuable. Also consider that top european have some wins against top chinese, and some good prospects like Felix can eventually raise above.
What a low level match LMFAO. Jorgic is so neurotic, it's almost unpleasant to watch. Constant hand flailing, etc.
Yes and no. I enjoy his games, but does have an issue. His treatment of Anders Lind was insulting and weird; he has to know Lind has mobility problems and making fun of his walk, I don't know. It's like Darko has social/head problems.
@@-danR where is it
@@TTWglobal
It was a month ago. I don't know if I could find it again.
@@TTWglobal
FULL MATCH | Darko Jorgic vs Anders Lind | 2023 European Championships
TTlondon2012 . Also TT11TV.
Lind smashed his back up in a car accident a few years ago and sometimes walks stiffly. I think he also plays with a sort of stiff-back style; but that's just my impression.
what happend?@@-danR
По матчу с фаном, было понятно что ергич сильнее всех в Европе