Top 5 Portrait Lens Or Nah? | Sony 90mm G Macro
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2021
- In today's video, I'll explain why the Sony 90mm 2.8G macro lensing isn't in my top 5 best Sony lenses for portraits.
I'd love to hear which lenses are in your top 5! Let me know in the comment section.
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I'm going to take a slightly different stab at why having the 90mm vs the 85mm is a good choice: versatility. The 90mm macro simply can do more than the 85's: it has closer focusing, extra sharpness, it's stabilized, and it's weight sits right between the f/1.8 and f/1.4 85mm's. Sharpness is not the end-all/be-all of a great lens, but I'd rather have more and process it out, than have less. I'd also rather be able to compose and focus closer, then have to crop. . . . time and time again, when shooting portraits with the 85mm f/1.4, I always find myself wanting to get "just a little closer" to the subject - but not being able to. And for those random times when I'm not shooting a model, but instead walking about in nature, then I can have some fun shooting flora - both normally, or REALLY up-close. I rarely find myself needing to spend "that" much extra time retouching less than favorable skin after using the 90mm, so I find that point moot (for my own work.) So, def understand your reasoning - and that's cool. But at the end of the day, I'd rather have "more" than less . . . and the 90mm - in my book - trumps the 85mm based on sheer versatility, outside of it's small list of potential downsides.
Okay, I was one of those asking about Excalibur. And I really like the 90 f2.8 macro both as a macro and for portraits. You make a strong explanation why It didn’t make the top 5, and you’re right. I will say I would NOT suggest anyone buy the 85 1.8 if you already own the 90mm. They are just way too close together to justify that second purchase. Good video Miguel.
I really appreciate your honest and concrete review about this lens. Sometimes we need to be practical more than technical.
In fact, the 90s macro from Sony was my first fixed focal length - and is still one of my most used lenses today, alongside the 135 GM, 85 GM, 35 GM and 24 GM. All great lenses! 🙏🏻 Now I'm waiting for the 50 GM ...
I feel as tho this was made just for me 😅 Great explanation as always, Miguel!
Saludos Miguel! Gracias por el buen contenido!
Saludos! Gracias por tu apoyo!
ive been shooting with the 85mm 1.8 for the longest time and yesterday i bought and used the 90mm and i love it! it's versatile, you can move back to get wider shorts or move close to crop it in. it's paired perfect with my a7iii. it's a match made in heaven. as for a7riii or riv maybe 85mm will work well for you
Thank you for taking the time to make this! It was great!
Thanks for watching!! 🙏
great video thanks! Please give me some advice
Which lens is better for portrait photography and why? Sony FE 85mm F/1.8. sony 90mm macro .85mm sigma art.
i like macro it has very high sharpness and actually you can use it for portrait and prodoct and macro photography but the 90 macro will be slower and heavier
Aperture blades don’t fully retract and bokeh highlights show aperture blade shap
about to pull the ttrigger on the Alpha 1. hope it s a great camera
LoL!!!! I was one of those guys who freaked out 🤣 , thanks for addressing it! I was freaking out, my excalibur got damaged in combat and I was between paying for fixing it or buying a new one, I went ahead and approved the shop to fix it and now that i see this video I feel 200% more happy with my decision! 🙏thanks Miguel! Sharpness is critical for me, specially on beauty commercial photography 👍🏼
Too funny! I couldn't believe how many people commented when I left the lens off my list. It's really an awesome lens.
I think, skin issues can be fixed post. I have a6400, no ibis. So for $999, I'm getting a telephoto prime (around 130mm or so full frame equivalent) + a macro lens ( both with stabilization). So I'm really considering buying it over the 70 to 200 f4. What do you think ?
love your T, you prettymuch lookalike that great wwf performer, I mean it as a compliment, thanx mate, Max
I was going to get the Sony 90mm macro --- should I sell the Sigma 85mm 1.4 (is there any reason to have both?)
I think a filter to reduce sharpness is cheaper than an 85mm f1.8. Could you replace it applied to the 90mm f2.8? thank you.
I have been hunting UA-cam for this answer, I have the 85mm 1.8 and love it, that is the sharpest lens I own or used, but I was thinking of selling it to get this 90mm 2.8 lens, as I saw it as a more versatile lens to do those closeup macro shots as well as the portraits, like Mathew Bushey previous comment says
I love the 90mm and I’m always debating replacing my F4 70-200 with it.
90mm would be a better choice.
The best focal length for portraiture is 85mm. Even for shooting any picture, if you set your lens somewhere at 85 or 90 mm and then do your composition by moving forward or backward, you will get a better picture at that focal length than any other setting.
I just don't understand why photographers punish themselves by carrying such a heavy lens like 70-200 f4. To me it's an average lens.
LOL - full video to explain why a lens (which I own and love btw) did not make your very personal top-five - people do have the strangest issues with other people's (i.e. your) opinion. So, only about 2371 other lenses to go from here (including vintage manual lenses) - perhaps open a separate channel, e.g. to explain why the Asahi 135mm f/2.5 did not make it either :o). But well done, nice video as always - keep it rolling!
I tried to get a 90 and couldnt find one at the price point I wanted. So already having an 85 and a 105 I purchased the 100mm another lens I am shocked didnt make your top 5.
I have the 90mm and the 85mm 1.8, they're both amazing for portraits. But I'm thinking of trading in the 85mm for the 135mm. Which pairing do you think is better: 90/85mm or 90/135mm? I'd prefer to keep the 90mm because I use it for product photography as well.
That's a tough one to answer. They are all so good at different things. I'd probably let the 85 1.8 go in that situation. You could always dial down the clarity on the 90G if needed.
@@MiguelQuilesJr Yeah that's a good idea. Thanks for the feedback! Love your videos man!🙂
@@MiguelQuilesJr how to dial down the clarity, "I am very confused between 85 1.8 & 90 2.8, inclined towards 90 mm as it seems more versatile"
Still my most favourite lens of all time, werther for use of portraits to weddings and macro for weddings rings to studio beauty shots. But yes your right can be way over sharp for most portraits. I'll use the 85mm f1.8 for the softer sharpness.
I had such a hard time not including it in my list. As far as favorites go its definitely up there for me too. For wedding work it's a no brainer for me, easily top 5 material.
@@MiguelQuilesJr I bet it was a hard decision mate. Even mine 90mm has been on the shelf during the COVID19 absence of clients. Most projects shoots I've been useing my number one lens portraits the 135mm f1.8 G Master.
G 90mm has 1:1 frame to object ratio. 85mm will give you that very slight wide benifit that helps in aesthetic geometry of the body lines. And the 85mm has the newer technology of very fast focusing.
Sony 90mm f2.8 I love
Good analysis. Shoot models softer to save yourself work smoothing skin and editing out blems. Go with full sharpness on people who don't care, where you're trying to capture character.
I got called out by a portrait photographer as 'stupid' when I said I preferred the less sharp 85mm 1.4 over the crazy sharp 90mm. When I purchased the 90mm I used it on 3 portrait shoots. On my shoots I have my 27" iMac hooked up so we can all see the photos. ALL 3 shoots, the clients did not like the 90mm photos. I switched to the 85mm and instantly they all said 'much better, love them now'. Even on near perfect skin, the 90mm can pull out and showcase the slightest inperfections. I very rarely use it for the exact reasons you said and I knew it wouldn't make your list for that reason. It is the most unforgiving Sony lens I've ever used but damn, so sharp!
Amen! Exactly my experience. It's great when the time is right, unbeatable even. But for most situations people just won't want to see their face in such detail.
I need help with portrait family photo shoots. I have the sony cx6700 camera and bought the sony FE 90mm Macro lens open box for 500 dollars since the lens that came with camera just never took any good pics and my phone actually took better pictures. The 90mm FE lens is amazing when it comes to quality and macro images but as i'm just starting out, i am having a hard time taking portraits and family pictures as i cannot get far enough away from the person/persons to take a good picture. Seems all the people are way to close on shot even at 10 feet. Any suggestions?
Congrats on the deal you got for that lens! Given that you have an a6700, you're not actually seeing a 90mm focal length. Since the a6700 has a 1.5x crop, the 90mm acts more like a 135mm which is pretty tight for family photos. If you can't get back far enough it's going to be a tough lens for that application.
Have you used the sigma 105 macro ? And if so how do you feel it compares against the Sony 90?
I have been searching/watching vs reviews, I have 0 experience yet with either but the majority do say 90mm wins
The way I see it, by being the sharpest and having macro capabilities, the 90mm is the complete opposite of a specialty lens: it's the most versatile. Sharpness and close focus are what limits most lenses: you can pretty easily soften a sharp lens (diffusion filter would be my move, though you can also do it on post-processing) but the inverse isn't really possible. The only real point against the 90mm would be a small loss of aperture, and that's a tiny price to pay for what you get IMO.
Your video was good.
But you have left out the most important point of discussion:-
Please mention which are the Top 5 Portrait Lenses according to your choice.
Thank you.
Thanks! I actually made that video right before this one. Check out the others on my channel to watch 😁👍
This is one of my best lenses... has 2 uses (portraits and macro work) which is a blessing! lol 😂
I need 2read this ty.
I'm getting it
Not an excuse to not be on your top 5. For portraits:
A. Turn in-camera sharpness to total negative, and or
B. Tone down Texture and or Clarity in Photoshop (at least).
It's easier and better to apply softness in post to a sharp image than to apply sharpness to a soft image. The Sony 90mm G Macro is a keeper, no questions asked.
Throw a Pro Mist on it??
Ok, this makes me want to watch your top 5 video, and see if the 135mm GM is in there, as I've heard that is also one of the sharpest lenses. I own the 90mm macro and I love it, but not the 135mm.
You'll have to watch it to find out! 😁✌️
@@MiguelQuilesJr I just did - actually still watching it - and I did not hear you talk about the sharpness of the 135mm other than the photographer-orgasm when pixel peeping. 😆. Can you explain a bit more about the difference? It is more forgiving but still sharp enough? I've heard the AF speed is amazing.
The 135GM is a monster. It's sharpness competes well with the 90G, but it's more pleasing in my opinion for portraiture. AF performance is fantastic. It's still my #1 favorite.... For now 😁📸
@@MiguelQuilesJr thanks for taking the time to reply. And the 70-200mm GM is amazing - and indeed heavy 💪🏼- and unfortunately it has some issues with the Sony a1 (which I own). I hope Sony can fix that with a firmware update.
I ran into some issues with mine too, but it was a preproduction unit. I'm sure they'll fix it shortly with a firmware update. Thanks for watching!
Interesting points.
Remember EVERYONE is different.
So its now some 2-3 years later and its 2023....
i got the 90mm 2.8 !!!!!
love it.
dont have the 70-200
was going to pair it with a Zeiss 135mm but find that the 90mm is about right in almost ALL Portrait situations.
Skin tones - great
Quality - YES !
Any regrets? NO !
Would've been nice to see photo examples...
It would be difficult to see the sharpness because the YT compression. I'd go look at 500pix or flickr for example photos of how insansely sharp the lens is.
It is my lens for everything.
But then why get high-res cameras like the A7R-IV if a lens can be way too sharp?
It's all about making that eye catching image. If you get all the elements right it takes your images to another level.
I take sharpness.
90mm is too long for me unless it's a tilt/shift lens for some artistic fun with full body portraits.
What are you shooting mainly? Longer focal lengths really give a unique look for many situations.
@@MiguelQuilesJr I'm 95% portrait/sensual, usually something around the angle of view of a 50mm on small format cameras. Most of my life I shot medium and large format on film in natural light and that's still my main setup.
It's interesting that you consider this to be the sharpest lens. When according to Lensrentals the 135mm GM was proven to be the sharpest lens ever made by Sony.
Felt like it was meant for question. haha questioned answered
Nope, not going to leave a random comment about why should or shouldn’t use 90mm just to drive up YT interaction count... not going to fall for it.
Greetings from Sony India. Thank you for patronizing Sony products.
This is in reference to your last email dated 19th August 2021, regarding the service of your Sony Macro Lens SEL90M28G bearing serial no: ****** purchased on 24th October 2020.
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As confirmed by the service feedback, we note this product is working normally and as per its specification. There is no defect in the product and does not need any service. This has been explained by the service personnel to you.
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So as per Sony india - Sony 90mm is not for portraits. This is a macro lens , only to be used for macro photography.
I bought the Sony 90mm 2.8 by seeing your video on Sony alpha universe , it was your top portrait lens .
I'm a bit confused by this message. They aren't stating that the lens isn't to be used for portraits, but rather that it works as intended. What issues are you having with the lens that caused you to send it in for service?
@@MiguelQuilesJr what I bought is a bad copy of decentered lens , which they aren't ready to fix or replace it . Instead Sony service india is claiming that a macro lens doesn't work like other prime lens , and shouldn't be used for portraits or any other form of photography, this lens is intended to shoot only macro photos .
And I used my 90mm for studio ecommerce photoshoots .
@@MiguelQuilesJr here in the mail they have used their words wisely , but the technician who explained to me told me that the lens isn't for portraits , this lens is for macro photography.
I even tried shooting outdoor with a two light setup , shooting in tripod , handheld , steadyshot on and off ,No luck .
When you say "no luck", what exactly is happening? There are some important details that sound like they are missing here. Clearly from my videos and work you can see it's able to be used for portraiture. 🤷♂️