Respect for calling him out. I usually act surprised and say: "never heard of one doing that much power". Maybe they get the hint that I know, but all of them almost invariably double down on the lie. I let them off the hook after and I know now he is lying a fool.
I think it's the doubling down part that is truly annoying. At that point, they KNOW that you know more than them and are calling BS on their claim... You would expect them to just laugh and say yeah, something must be off on the dyno that day... But you are right, they double down on something that you both now know is not possible... So you have to wonder... why? What are they hoping t gain?
I can completely understand and concur. I have an absolutely beautiful 07 Aprilia RSV1000R that’s been on a severe diet …decked out in carbon panels, titanium hardware titanium exhaust titanium hangers, axles etc, BST wheels, etc. it’s a fantastic handling bike, but I’m not under any illusion that it’s gonna keep up with the latest hardware. It always killed me to have guys walking up to me on clapped out 600s and 750s telling me that they’ve done 200 miles an hour. And you try to graciously and politely tell them that they’re full of shit, but they swear to it. You finally get to a point where it’s just like you just nod your head and go oh wow, that’s crazy. And then just walk away.
Yeah, I just find it annoying... It's harmless, obviously, but it's still annoying. It's always the 600/750 guys and I think its just ego with them. They could only afford to get the smaller bike, but they want to sit at the big bike table at lunch, so they make shit up to try and pretend that their small bike is "just as fast"... And it just isn't.
Yeah why is it that guys on gxr 750's always say they go 200 mph? lol. a lot of liter bikes don't even go 200. I agree though, I used to argue with people like that but now I can't even be bothered. I basically say the same thing, wow that's crazy, or wow that's fast. lol. I have got nothing to prove. you can check the top speed online of any bike. + or - 10 is about right.
@@ChrisVanMiddelkoop Well, with the GSX-R600/750, they pick up their speed from the countershaft sensor. So from the factory, they tend to read 5-8% high... And a lot of them do the "quick acceleration" sprocket kit, to get better drive... -1 on the front and +1 or +2 on the rear is the most common... Well now the speed is gonna read 15-19% high.... So 1t 170 on the speedo, they are actually more like 142mph... A lot of them don't know how the speed is calculated and so they think they are doing 170 but they are actually a LOT slower than that... And because its a %... the faster they go, the more the speedo is off... But when you explain that to them, they don't want to listen, because they have been flexing to their friends that their bike does XYZ and now they have to admit that its nowhere near that speed, and the ego doesn't want to hear that... haha But science is science...
I don't think it is for everyone to not have electronics but it doesn't bother me either way. I am not super experienced or anything but I have a lot of time racing cars. bikes are the same but different in some ways. I love the feel of an older carbureted bike or car. but I also like being able to just go full throttle and not worry about spinning the rear tires. It just takes more attention and more feel without electronics. And a bit of respect for the machine you are operating. I think what gets people in trouble is when they don't take it slow to start and just go full throttle right away. I literally just watched someone on a zx6 lose the rear in a corner, not going fast maybe 20 mph but just too much throttle at a steep lean angle and spun like a top. on a car the edge of traction isn't that dangerous because you have 4 wheels are balanced and have a cage around you. On a bike you don't have a very large contact patch, you have a fast revving engine, and you have to balance. This is why body position matters so much on a bike. but someone just getting a bike for the first time really wouldn't know or understand any of this and thus you have crashes. I am also old and electronics were not as much of a thing when I was learning to drive cars or ride bikes. I also couldn't afford anything new. my first car was a 1967 and my first bike was a 1976. lol. of course this was in the year 2004. I am not that old...
I am 52, and so I grew up in the era of carburetors, no electronics, manual transmissions, no ABS, etc... My first 20 or so bikes, have none of that stuff. But as time went on, I got the bikes that had these things... The thing to remember is that today's bikes for the street, are on par with MotoGP bikes from not that long ago. How many of us are MotoGP skill level? LOL What makes a lot of bikes rideable is the electronics packages. They can keep you out of trouble, while allowing you to exploit the performance of the vehicle. I understand the argument of building a skill rather than relying on the electronics, but to me that's like when people talk about other outdated skills... Sure, if the power grid gets wiped out for a decade and we are in Walking Dead times... then the Amish being able to make a wagon wheel or churn their own butter might become an asset again... but short of that, its largely a useless skill in today's world... The level of performance in today's bikes is crazy... Without electronics to help manage that, we would see a lot more dead or hurt riders, which would drive insurance rates up even more, and probably force lawmakers to get more involved in our industry, etc... So I am all for these systems... 🙂
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Respect for calling him out. I usually act surprised and say: "never heard of one doing that much power".
Maybe they get the hint that I know, but all of them almost invariably double down on the lie. I let them off the hook after and I know now he is lying a fool.
Happens ALL the time…😂
I think it's the doubling down part that is truly annoying. At that point, they KNOW that you know more than them and are calling BS on their claim... You would expect them to just laugh and say yeah, something must be off on the dyno that day... But you are right, they double down on something that you both now know is not possible... So you have to wonder... why? What are they hoping t gain?
ALL the time. haha
I can completely understand and concur. I have an absolutely beautiful 07 Aprilia RSV1000R that’s been on a severe diet …decked out in carbon panels, titanium hardware titanium exhaust titanium hangers, axles etc, BST wheels, etc. it’s a fantastic handling bike, but I’m not under any illusion that it’s gonna keep up with the latest hardware. It always killed me to have guys walking up to me on clapped out 600s and 750s telling me that they’ve done 200 miles an hour. And you try to graciously and politely tell them that they’re full of shit, but they swear to it. You finally get to a point where it’s just like you just nod your head and go oh wow, that’s crazy. And then just walk away.
Yeah, I just find it annoying... It's harmless, obviously, but it's still annoying. It's always the 600/750 guys and I think its just ego with them. They could only afford to get the smaller bike, but they want to sit at the big bike table at lunch, so they make shit up to try and pretend that their small bike is "just as fast"... And it just isn't.
Yeah why is it that guys on gxr 750's always say they go 200 mph? lol. a lot of liter bikes don't even go 200. I agree though, I used to argue with people like that but now I can't even be bothered. I basically say the same thing, wow that's crazy, or wow that's fast. lol. I have got nothing to prove. you can check the top speed online of any bike. + or - 10 is about right.
@@ChrisVanMiddelkoop Well, with the GSX-R600/750, they pick up their speed from the countershaft sensor. So from the factory, they tend to read 5-8% high... And a lot of them do the "quick acceleration" sprocket kit, to get better drive... -1 on the front and +1 or +2 on the rear is the most common... Well now the speed is gonna read 15-19% high.... So 1t 170 on the speedo, they are actually more like 142mph... A lot of them don't know how the speed is calculated and so they think they are doing 170 but they are actually a LOT slower than that... And because its a %... the faster they go, the more the speedo is off...
But when you explain that to them, they don't want to listen, because they have been flexing to their friends that their bike does XYZ and now they have to admit that its nowhere near that speed, and the ego doesn't want to hear that... haha
But science is science...
I don't think it is for everyone to not have electronics but it doesn't bother me either way. I am not super experienced or anything but I have a lot of time racing cars. bikes are the same but different in some ways. I love the feel of an older carbureted bike or car. but I also like being able to just go full throttle and not worry about spinning the rear tires. It just takes more attention and more feel without electronics. And a bit of respect for the machine you are operating. I think what gets people in trouble is when they don't take it slow to start and just go full throttle right away. I literally just watched someone on a zx6 lose the rear in a corner, not going fast maybe 20 mph but just too much throttle at a steep lean angle and spun like a top. on a car the edge of traction isn't that dangerous because you have 4 wheels are balanced and have a cage around you. On a bike you don't have a very large contact patch, you have a fast revving engine, and you have to balance. This is why body position matters so much on a bike. but someone just getting a bike for the first time really wouldn't know or understand any of this and thus you have crashes. I am also old and electronics were not as much of a thing when I was learning to drive cars or ride bikes. I also couldn't afford anything new. my first car was a 1967 and my first bike was a 1976. lol. of course this was in the year 2004. I am not that old...
I am 52, and so I grew up in the era of carburetors, no electronics, manual transmissions, no ABS, etc... My first 20 or so bikes, have none of that stuff. But as time went on, I got the bikes that had these things...
The thing to remember is that today's bikes for the street, are on par with MotoGP bikes from not that long ago. How many of us are MotoGP skill level? LOL
What makes a lot of bikes rideable is the electronics packages. They can keep you out of trouble, while allowing you to exploit the performance of the vehicle. I understand the argument of building a skill rather than relying on the electronics, but to me that's like when people talk about other outdated skills... Sure, if the power grid gets wiped out for a decade and we are in Walking Dead times... then the Amish being able to make a wagon wheel or churn their own butter might become an asset again... but short of that, its largely a useless skill in today's world...
The level of performance in today's bikes is crazy... Without electronics to help manage that, we would see a lot more dead or hurt riders, which would drive insurance rates up even more, and probably force lawmakers to get more involved in our industry, etc... So I am all for these systems... 🙂