@@TaimaThey're like 5'7 and 180, they're way smaller than most wrestlers. Its easy to have abs when youre skinny asf. Bobby Lashley is almost 50 and he's over 200 pounds and has abs. That's way more impressive than Finn or Ricochet
@@breezy8768if Roman wasn’t related to a certain Samoan family he would never have gotten years to get better he’d be canned for the next top star let’s be honest
Not anymore Triple H has said he doesn’t care about people’s physique or height he’s just wants them to be good in ring and on the mic, that’s why in NXT Undisputed Era were pushed, Johnny Gargano was pushed, Walter/Gunther was pushed, and Keith Lee were pushed to name a few
@@Kfields1234Shelton isn't boring, WWE failed him. Don't forget his epic moments in ladder matches. The same matches he has never won, wow WWE screwed him
Was gonna say that, I'm skinny and bumping takes a toll on my back. I would think with more muscle there is more cushion and reduces the risk of tearing anything
That argument os something you can apply to most wrestling promotions/ territories like you look at the top guys from all wrestling companies they have a good physique
@@Jay931 does tht bother yawl? I've never understood the hateful Roid comments at people that aren't competing or cheating their sport by using Gear. I'm 6'3" & 170lbs, so Gear has never been a temptation for me. Be tall people! Is it that difficult? I'm not even tall, but Damn i HATE Short people
I mean guys built like Adam Cole shouldn’t be seen as top guys it’s not believable. Shawn and Brett were bigger guys just smaller than the last generation of Hogan, Warrior and Savage There’s not a small guy as good as Rey, Eddie or Benoit in their primes.
Adam Cole isn't much smaller than Shawn Michaels, I'm not saying he is as great as Shawn, Hey, no one really is. But, Cole is great in the ring and on the mic.
Bobby is better on the mic. He isn't great, but still better and better rounded in the ring, than Brock, but Brock has that aura from UFC and his early days in WWE.
Big Show, Kane, Dusty Rhodes, Andre, Rikishi, Umaga, Dudleys (I haven’t watched wrestling in like 10 years so I only know some older wrestlers) don’t have great physique. A lot are tall, but there are several examples.
You forgot the part where it’s an incredibly difficult performing art to master. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, but this made it sound like it’s all about your body and road schedule. The single biggest barrier to entry is people’s ability to get through a match.
It's a visual medium. As cool as KO is, nobody is deciding to watch WWE because they saw him on a poster. However, Undertaker, Randy, Hulk Hogan and many other top talents surely pulled in new viewers.
That's why guys like Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn could never be the top guy. KO did win the Universal belt, but that belt has the least prestige and lineage compared to the WWE champion and Big Gold belts.
Universal title is a top title and main event more PPV than wwe title since 2016 ...that's a fact go check...hell UV belt main event more SummerSlam and more WrestleMania Than wwe title
Okay, yes, WWE favors wrestler's with impressive physiques. However, I don't understand why it's so surprising to people that pro wrestler's who are on TV every week would want yo look there best when they have an international fan base watching them. That'd ve like asking an actor why they'd want to have abs or be skinny for a scene with their shirt off.
Anyone whose ever seen UFC match knows being super cut doesn't equal believable fight skills though. I present Silva and Cormier arguably the two best UFC fighters ever both looked kind of like normal guys. But it is great for marketing as if you look like a comic superhero you can be sold as one easily.
Good body, good gimmick, good promos and good selling is the least you need there's more than just looking good, there's also the effort they see in you, that's why Priest became champion
I can’t agree fully. John Morrison has prolly one of the best physiques in WWE history, and great in ring talent and skill. Ricochet has both as well. They were heavily underutilized bc of their mic skills. Physique does play a part, but how u connect n reach to da fans wit yo mic skills plays a bigger part as well.
@@unknodaemon9220 It's not about who performs better it's about who connects with the crowd. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena is an average wrestler with out of this world charisma.
JBL, Yokozuna, Mark Henry, Great Khali, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle, Andre The Giant, Rick Flair, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, RVD, CM Punk, Kevin Owens, Chavo Guerrero, Alberto Del Rio, Christian, Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy entered the Chat.
I mean wrestling is about aesthetics as well, but people like to get any feelings about that. Would you rather see Magnum PI chase criminals in a Ferrari, or station wagon?
“The truth about the wwe it actually doesn’t do anything wrong everything it does makes sense actually they’re perfect.” Real quality content man. There’s soooo much to critique the wwe on and I say that as a fan. This is lame
I feel like it’s who they believe gets the crowd coming in and also merch as well as who cuts good promos if u don’t got the crowd on the edge 🥱of there seats with amazing promos it tights down to u having full package but I do see wwe also pushing certain ppl like Austin theory who don’t call me a hater or nun I don’t see hype on yet he had potential but he could change his gimmick and be sum coo
WWE priorities wreslers size instead of physique. Even the wrestlers in WWE have admitted to it, Mark Henry had to lie about Daniel Brian's height and weight in order to get him in the rooster
There's another reason for this. Vince McMahon, the previous owner and creative director of WWE, had a weird thing about men with amazing physiques. Some examples are Hulk Hogan, Ryback, Roman Reigns, and others that were being oushed heavily by WWE during his tenure there
They got pushed, always had the support, all the spotlight and all the time to work one their craft But some wrestlers who had all that done still didn't get the push they deserved Vince was trash man
Also a casual fan that is the target audience will not think of someone like Kevin owen over a built guy like Batista or goldberg No matter how talented they are they do need to look impressive
Is crazy how a guy like Kevin is Talented asf but gets Buried or overshadowed by guys like John Cena and Goldberg and many more lmao even tho he preforms at a better level than those
@@zachxavierpatatag8393that's the problem just learning the basics, they don't stand out. They just Generic .Guys like Triple H and Batista are generic
@@unknodaemon9220 lol hhh being generic? Hhh had character. Batista is not as generic but dude exudes aura and presence. Those guys are main eventers. They dont had to be a technical wizard.
@@zachxavierpatatag8393 im talking about skill wise in ring ability, guys like Triple H, The rock ,Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold ,Kane and many more don't really have much on in ring ability but are goats on Mics
@@unknodaemon9220 yes if you’re into workrate, kurt angle, hbk, error 404 and eddie guerrero but those guys mixed n match both character work and in ring at once. Guys like hhh the rock kane, they dont have to, they can have a 10 min match and they can make it memorable.
If you wanna wrestle take notes when Roman came to wrestlemania he was as jacked as naturally possible every big match he comes in jacked Roman was a heavy big guy when he played football but he knows his body is everything in wwe
But nobody really cared for his push. They kept forcing Roman downed our Throats for no reason 😅Seeing him like in every main event and back then his Promos and Wrestle sas Mid asf now he Better
Not true there's been tons of wwe stars who have bad bodies but are successful rikishi,big show,Yokozuna,andre the giant,bray Wyatt and kevin owens just to name a few
Isnt that a must in the sport industry? First, wwe prioritise big guys, then we complain about wwe prioritising good physique? Lol where does it stop?😅
Wait a minute, are you telling me wrestlers should look like jacked, what’s the word, wrestlers?!?!? No shit, sorry, but Spike Dudley was never gonna hold the belt
But the thing is the only way to maintain that kinda physique with such a grueling work schedule, high risk of injury and lack of sleep is by juicing. It's just not healthy in the long run
Why don’t wwe have chiropractors for the wrestlers. Just for if they feel stiff or sore little. They can feel more comfortable for their wrestling matches. They are getting more out of their wrestlers. If they recover more and they can feel less hurt. They will feel less stressed from travelling wwe taking care of their talent. Them paying for it. They don’t get paid for getting injured. If they get injured on the job wwe does pay for there medical bill and rehab if they need it. If they look at their wrestlers as investment and product . Protect the wrestlers and treat them better. They giving them everything for just entertainment.
Ricochet and Finn Balor with their 6 and 8 packs 🤡💀
Edit: 1.8k likes for this? Damn thats crazy 😂
They're just lean its not that impressive look at how much muscle ricochet packed on such a small frame instead
@@Squatthottf you mean it’s not that impressive. Especially for Finn getting into his early 40s and being absolutely shredded. It ain’t no thing.
@@TaimaThey're like 5'7 and 180, they're way smaller than most wrestlers. Its easy to have abs when youre skinny asf. Bobby Lashley is almost 50 and he's over 200 pounds and has abs. That's way more impressive than Finn or Ricochet
Finn Balor "The Man with 10 abs" 😂
@@Squatthotthey aren’t just lean, but they 100% had to work harder to convert what little fat they had to muscle. It’s very impressive.
Then there is Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn, who do NOT have that kind of physique, but DO put the work in
And some who have great physiques, put in the work, but are just "too small" by wwe standards.
They have amazing talent
@@Sd12sx23chad Gable
@@Sd12sx23 you're talking about gable right
First guy that came to mind for me was ricochet, just because of the recent news of his leaving, but i suppose gable is a good example too.
Don't forget the mic skills too. They better have something good to say to cut a better promo.
Most of the big guys dont know how to cut good promos tho
TOOK ROMAN YEARS!!!
@@breezy8768if Roman wasn’t related to a certain Samoan family he would never have gotten years to get better he’d be canned for the next top star let’s be honest
@@oofmaster1003 he had the look Vince was looking for, like Cena and Brock. he pushed them because of their physique. Not their mic skills.
being ripped looks great on television and being 6'8" does too.
And for merchandise too..kids would rather have a roided up freak action figure not Adam Cole
Edge never had the best body until almost after exactly 9 yrs and the man still had a big push in his first run
Hes 6’5 tho
N still got that mid carder aura
@@wondermcthunder8835 yeah ik
To be fair, WWE will only promote wrestlers with great physiques.
Not anymore Triple H has said he doesn’t care about people’s physique or height he’s just wants them to be good in ring and on the mic, that’s why in NXT Undisputed Era were pushed, Johnny Gargano was pushed, Walter/Gunther was pushed, and Keith Lee were pushed to name a few
@@Forse32 really?
Kevin Owen’s has entered the chat 😂
@@Forse32 Proof is that all current champions on the main roster right now don't have good physique at all
@@ahmedalaidid4639 yeah it’s surprising but Triple H only cares about ability not size
Yet guys with amazing physique like Shelton Benjamin and Dolph god fired lmao
Shelton benjaman is boring
@@Kfields1234Shelton isn't boring, WWE failed him. Don't forget his epic moments in ladder matches. The same matches he has never won, wow WWE screwed him
@@Kfields1234WWE failed Shelton
They can't push everyone 😂
Oversellers.. another overseller is ricochet
That and being in shape helps the wrestler take the punishment and the grinde
Was gonna say that, I'm skinny and bumping takes a toll on my back. I would think with more muscle there is more cushion and reduces the risk of tearing anything
KO is a superstar and he has a dad bod.
Not champion material.
There's a reason he hasn't won a world title outside of being a last minute replacement for an injured Finn balor.
I wouldnt call it a dad bod, he simply doesn't do weight loss phases as part of his training program. He's got solid strenght and athleticism
@@RedHoodFH HE'S FAT! - Scott Steiner
Who said wtf..he has champ material written all over him@@LoveNH
Fun fact this is one of the reasons why cm punk wasn’t main eventing wrestlemania
Because he looked unroided?
Removed "healthy and" because it's untrue
@@zoppletee5400just leave it at unroided. He looked sickly every time he came to the ring
Or maybe there was always a better main event
@Crimson296 yeah, that'd fair. He was sickly for the most part. They didn't treat him well at all.
and cm punk is injury prone
That argument os something you can apply to most wrestling promotions/ territories like you look at the top guys from all wrestling companies they have a good physique
And it also takes a lot of “banned substances”
Bobby and Austin definitely juice
@@Jay931 does tht bother yawl? I've never understood the hateful Roid comments at people that aren't competing or cheating their sport by using Gear. I'm 6'3" & 170lbs, so Gear has never been a temptation for me.
Be tall people! Is it that difficult?
I'm not even tall, but Damn i HATE Short people
@@benparrish672 that means your underweight
Well there are a lot of superstars who had good physiques who didn't become top dogs themselves e.g. Chris Masters, Renee Dupree
KO isn’t a massive guy but he is still an amazing wrestler
That and the steroids that are given to the talent when management isn’t looking or for the matter, caring also helps.
Be in the WWE is like being in Disney ice shows
You have issues with your inability to do something like a be a wrestler so you spout illogical nonsense in comments for a reaction..lame
Some gain through hardwork and some through using steroids.
Yeah because when you use steroids muscle grows automatically without workout or diet (asshole)
I mean guys built like Adam Cole shouldn’t be seen as top guys it’s not believable. Shawn and Brett were bigger guys just smaller than the last generation of Hogan, Warrior and Savage There’s not a small guy as good as Rey, Eddie or Benoit in their primes.
Bret and shawn were better than them
Adam Cole is probably top 5 most skilled wrestlers in the world rn
Foley?
Adam Cole isn't much smaller than Shawn Michaels, I'm not saying he is as great as Shawn, Hey, no one really is. But, Cole is great in the ring and on the mic.
Guys like Adam Cole were peak performance, non of those meatheads could compete with Adam cole skills
It’s not just about physiques . Bobby lasheley has one of the best . But he was never pushed as much as Brock even thou both of them suck on the Mike
bobby won the title twice.
Bobby is better on the mic. He isn't great, but still better and better rounded in the ring, than Brock, but Brock has that aura from UFC and his early days in WWE.
Bl@@Bayley4everBrock overrated asf
Big Show, Kane, Dusty Rhodes, Andre, Rikishi, Umaga, Dudleys (I haven’t watched wrestling in like 10 years so I only know some older wrestlers) don’t have great physique. A lot are tall, but there are several examples.
Kevin Owens throws this out the window.
You forgot the part where it’s an incredibly difficult performing art to master. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, but this made it sound like it’s all about your body and road schedule. The single biggest barrier to entry is people’s ability to get through a match.
It's a visual medium. As cool as KO is, nobody is deciding to watch WWE because they saw him on a poster.
However, Undertaker, Randy, Hulk Hogan and many other top talents surely pulled in new viewers.
That's why guys like Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn could never be the top guy. KO did win the Universal belt, but that belt has the least prestige and lineage compared to the WWE champion and Big Gold belts.
Dude they legit main evented WrestleMania and many more ppv....if it is that so why not Bobby became a top guy?
Universal title is a top title and main event more PPV than wwe title since 2016 ...that's a fact go check...hell UV belt main event more SummerSlam and more WrestleMania Than wwe title
Okay, yes, WWE favors wrestler's with impressive physiques. However, I don't understand why it's so surprising to people that pro wrestler's who are on TV every week would want yo look there best when they have an international fan base watching them. That'd ve like asking an actor why they'd want to have abs or be skinny for a scene with their shirt off.
Gunter with his dad bod:
Dad Bod?
Where
99.9% I agree with that policy. Makes guys like Mick Foley even more AWEsome!
being in shape = believability and marketability.
Anyone whose ever seen UFC match knows being super cut doesn't equal believable fight skills though. I present Silva and Cormier arguably the two best UFC fighters ever both looked kind of like normal guys.
But it is great for marketing as if you look like a comic superhero you can be sold as one easily.
Not really. Find the most ripped guy in your local gym and Butterbean would still knock him out 9 times out of 10.
Kevin Owens getting looks with this one😂
Good body, good gimmick, good promos and good selling is the least you need there's more than just looking good, there's also the effort they see in you, that's why Priest became champion
I can’t agree fully. John Morrison has prolly one of the best physiques in WWE history, and great in ring talent and skill. Ricochet has both as well. They were heavily underutilized bc of their mic skills. Physique does play a part, but how u connect n reach to da fans wit yo mic skills plays a bigger part as well.
Thats why WWE have Main-eventer, Midcard, and Lowercard.
@@elguwapo6153alot of these low and Mid carders are Performing better and more skillfully than these Main eventers
@@unknodaemon9220 It's not about who performs better it's about who connects with the crowd. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena is an average wrestler with out of this world charisma.
I wish I could learn something new about wrestling...
And then there's Solo Sikoa, not to bodyshame him, but I like the uniqueness, so it's not only a tough muscular guy in the business.
Jinder Mahal went from 3MB to world champion all because he took steroids
I think they gave him the world title to try to appeal to the Indian market lol
JBL, Yokozuna, Mark Henry, Great Khali, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle, Andre The Giant, Rick Flair, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, RVD, CM Punk, Kevin Owens, Chavo Guerrero, Alberto Del Rio, Christian, Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy entered the Chat.
I mean wrestling is about aesthetics as well, but people like to get any feelings about that. Would you rather see Magnum PI chase criminals in a Ferrari, or station wagon?
The argument falls apart when you even mention Rey Mysterio because he's one of the biggest wrestlers while being one of the smallest
In REAL LIFE "Your body is your RESUME"
“The truth about the wwe it actually doesn’t do anything wrong everything it does makes sense actually they’re perfect.” Real quality content man. There’s soooo much to critique the wwe on and I say that as a fan. This is lame
I feel like it’s who they believe gets the crowd coming in and also merch as well as who cuts good promos if u don’t got the crowd on the edge 🥱of there seats with amazing promos it tights down to u having full package but I do see wwe also pushing certain ppl like Austin theory who don’t call me a hater or nun I don’t see hype on yet he had potential but he could change his gimmick and be sum coo
WWE priorities wreslers size instead of physique. Even the wrestlers in WWE have admitted to it, Mark Henry had to lie about Daniel Brian's height and weight in order to get him in the rooster
There's another reason for this. Vince McMahon, the previous owner and creative director of WWE, had a weird thing about men with amazing physiques. Some examples are Hulk Hogan, Ryback, Roman Reigns, and others that were being oushed heavily by WWE during his tenure there
They got pushed, always had the support, all the spotlight and all the time to work one their craft
But some wrestlers who had all that done still didn't get the push they deserved
Vince was trash man
One of those is not like the other. Hogan could work a crowd, & was fire on the mic. Roman & Ryback are total trash.
It's not weird...it's about pushing guys with marketable looks
@@ModernDayRenaissanceMantrash doesn't get reactions like Ryback and Roman do.....trash is bland workrate guys like Andrade,Kyle orielly
@@ziyadhasimkhalilguys like Hogan and Rybaci people of their Physique couldn't really Performance
Bobby Lashley and Chris Masters had insane physiques.
I'm so glad they kind of changed this
This means that they will work until they die😢
*BOBBY, BALOR, RICOCHET, ROCK, LESNAR*
Then why’d they fire Rick Boogs?
Also a casual fan that is the target audience will not think of someone like Kevin owen over a built guy like Batista or goldberg
No matter how talented they are they do need to look impressive
Is crazy how a guy like Kevin is Talented asf but gets Buried or overshadowed by guys like John Cena and Goldberg and many more lmao even tho he preforms at a better level than those
My goodness, those traps on Austin
Bro Theory's traps are huge my GAWD 😭
That's just an excuse for Vinces obsession with big sweaty muscular guys.
This is why their “wellness” policy is and will always be a joke… you’re telling me Austin theory and breaker don’t use PED’s SMD marks
22 year pro wrestler. The have and still push steroids. It's not just a thing people do to show hard work and sacrifice. smh
Getting in shape is not hard, just have a routine like Patrick Bateman and you’ll be fine
bobby lashley has the same physic even after decades
Edge did not have a good physic until he returned in 2020
Abs are the least useful for being a wrestler ... Insted arms,legs, shoulder, back are main & weight
Ricochet's suuuuuper long hang time SSP right there was fkin bonkers 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Yet a lot of the wrestlers with "good physiques" suck in the ring for some reason lol. Don't know where the determination and hard work went there.
they dont have to be a technical savy wrestler to be in the top as long as u know the basics, you're good to go.
@@zachxavierpatatag8393that's the problem just learning the basics, they don't stand out. They just Generic .Guys like Triple H and Batista are generic
@@unknodaemon9220 lol hhh being generic? Hhh had character. Batista is not as generic but dude exudes aura and presence. Those guys are main eventers. They dont had to be a technical wizard.
@@zachxavierpatatag8393 im talking about skill wise in ring ability, guys like Triple H, The rock ,Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold ,Kane and many more don't really have much on in ring ability but are goats on Mics
@@unknodaemon9220 yes if you’re into workrate, kurt angle, hbk, error 404 and eddie guerrero but those guys mixed n match both character work and in ring at once. Guys like hhh the rock kane, they dont have to, they can have a 10 min match and they can make it memorable.
So big with the ster-b12 shots
Man theory the lowkey trap king
maybe in the 80’s and 90’s but this is 2024. be fr.
There's a reason it was called the land of the giants.
If you wanna wrestle take notes when Roman came to wrestlemania he was as jacked as naturally possible every big match he comes in jacked Roman was a heavy big guy when he played football but he knows his body is everything in wwe
But nobody really cared for his push. They kept forcing Roman downed our Throats for no reason 😅Seeing him like in every main event and back then his Promos and Wrestle sas Mid asf now he Better
Yeah Kevin owens looks like arnold
Otis is the peak of man
Cool
Like if your subbed
But talent should be the main priority,just an opinion
It also helps if you were born to the right people.
Laughs in JBL
Im shredded i should be in wwe
Not everyone can make it as a WWE WRESTLER.
JBL had the worst physic but was a Beast on the Mike
I mean let’s talk about how insanely roided out AJ styles is can we… like my gosh that guy is on serious gear
It's very simple. You can teach a guy who's 6'8 how to wrestle. But you cant teach a guy who's 5'8 to be 6'8
Wwe should had protozie mental health awareness
Rey mysterio enters the chat
Physiques draw work rate doesn't period !
You cant be a larger than life superstar if you are not over 6ft with massive body.
Yaa that's why I like AEW..... Cause they push ex-WWE wrestlers. Wait isn't that the sam-
But Finn Balor with his bloody 8 pack 💀
Hard work, sacrifice and you cant forget a key factor...steroids
I'm tired of seeing a 5 foot 7 guy who's under 200 lbs beat up 6'8 300 lbs men it's absurd
Not true there's been tons of wwe stars who have bad bodies but are successful rikishi,big show,Yokozuna,andre the giant,bray Wyatt and kevin owens just to name a few
any girl would say the Austins traps are disgusting looking oh my God
Isnt that a must in the sport industry? First, wwe prioritise big guys, then we complain about wwe prioritising good physique? Lol where does it stop?😅
And then there's Kevin Owens.... 👍
You mean making a decent living takes hard work and sacrifice? Many people need to hear that without the WWE context
beware of organized gangstalking!!!
Wait a minute, are you telling me wrestlers should look like jacked, what’s the word, wrestlers?!?!? No shit, sorry, but Spike Dudley was never gonna hold the belt
Nah. Great physique looks good on TV. Looking like a Greek God will definitely get people to watch over average Joe.
If your gonna be a wwe superstar, you gotta look like a wwe superstar
If ur gonna be a wwe superstar, you gotta know how to wrestle and cut promos and connect with fans
@@unknodaemon9220 that too
Austin theory is a monster from the cuthulu world.
Theory ain’t shit 😂
But the thing is the only way to maintain that kinda physique with such a grueling work schedule, high risk of injury and lack of sleep is by juicing. It's just not healthy in the long run
Why don’t wwe have chiropractors for the wrestlers. Just for if they feel stiff or sore little. They can feel more comfortable for their wrestling matches. They are getting more out of their wrestlers. If they recover more and they can feel less hurt. They will feel less stressed from travelling wwe taking care of their talent. Them paying for it. They don’t get paid for getting injured. If they get injured on the job wwe does pay for there medical bill and rehab if they need it. If they look at their wrestlers as investment and product . Protect the wrestlers and treat them better. They giving them everything for just entertainment.
Mick Foley?
mick had to be gimmicky and to be good in the mic.
Kids and moms
Kids tune in to big muscley superman. To aspire to become superman
Moms keep it tuned in because of big muscled superman.
And it looks good on TV
bruh i dont think vince looked at andre the giant an said ya 500+ pounds i wont make him a mega star