A personal favorite : when The Team Rocket Villains of Kaoh Rong, Jason and Scot ,after being bullies the whole season, were blindsided when Tai refused to activate the super idol, sending both Scot and Jason's idol home. Amazing
HOW DARE YOU SIR! How dare you compare two of the most endearingly lovable villains in anime history to two irredeemable sh*tbags like Scott and Jason? Like seriously, how much more insulting can you get?
@@roger_towny_jr Yes yes I Can understand, I nicknamed them Team Rocket because of how unserious they were taken as threats by the other contestants and for how they were easily defeated at each of their action to be evil. But yes I love Rocket Trio
One of the reasons why I love the fact that survivor has been going on for so long is that I know that we will never run out of videos by you. Thank you, Mr. Idoled Out
An unofficial rule in survivor: never ever make it clear to a tribemate that they’re on the outs, spring the premerge or early merge. Burning bridges eliminates options.
Gotta love the Lairo tribe for the best example of that, why take out Karishma who you’ve insulted and ignored for the last 6 days when you could take out Chelsea because Missy is bored
I guess credit to the cult alliance for sorta making Edna think she’s an equal member. Apparently before Brandon told Edna she’s on the outs, she didn’t even know she’s not part of the core five
The ultimate karma to Shirin denying Will his letter from home is in how one of Will's cruel insults, Will says that- likely based on HER letter from home- that there was nobody in her life that loves her.
Holy shít, what happened with her letter?! The only way I can think of for that to make any sense is if she didn't get a letter at all. Ffs, I wouldn't have let Will have his letter either, goddámn.
@@ArcanineEspeon I don't think she didn't- at least on the show- but it's absolutely possible she got Lewis'd. She also could have just gotten it from a friend, or maybe Will was just being a pissy little bitch.
There's a cross-season moment of incredible Karmic justice on Season 19 and 20. Russell burning Jaison's socks on Day 1 of Season 19, and then Sandra burning Russell's hat on Day 39 of Season 20. So good.
@@Fitzbits687 I love how Russell's little fuckboys have to come in and throw any female who won over him under the bus. The two things they hate most, I'm sure: Russell lost and a B I T C H won
You gotta mention Natalie beating Russell at FTC. He was so horrible to everyone and he thought he had it in the bag, only for Erik to absolutely demolish him. Pure gold
🙄😤 Okay...AGAIN! For the seven hundred MILLIONTH TIME!!! Lex NEVER made a deal with Ethan than mercilessly broke it the first chance he got after Ethan upheld his end of the bargain. Lex NEVER weaponized his real life friendship to mentally and emotionally manipulate Ethan into making a move that was against his better interests! Lex. NEVER! After voting off hid supposed friend go on to then unapologetically GLOAT about it to his family. Look past the surfaces, and these situations are NOTHING alike!
@@roger_towny_jrtrue but that’s simply because of different power dynamics. Lex didn’t do those things because he was in the power position, but Rob needed to be more manipulative to get his way because he was not in the power position.
@peytonbond4886 Bull sh*t! Rob was dominating in challenges he had contingencies and alliances with everyone, and was the most powerful player at every stage of this game. Lex was the one in the more desperate situation and HAD to vote people off cause his tribe kept losing.
@@roger_towny_jr Wording is key in some cases as Rob technically never made it clear he was interested in working with him. Honestly he probably makes the same deal with anyone in the power position where Amber gets swap screwed. Lex was the one who put himself in a position to be a target that even if Amber weren't to be saved, in terms of another Chapera member, minus Tom because of the pre made, he still goes him in the same spot.
need a part 2 cuz there are so many more! some of my top picks: - drew vote out after throwing the challenge and his cocky attitude - tai not playing the super idol for scot and Jason - Russell not winning to not one but two women he gloated about beating - penner being ostracized and his and Candice's downfalls post mutiny
I'm surprised you didn't include the Aitu 4 getting revenge on Candice and Penner for betraying them. Not only were they completely undefeated in the tribal section of the game, but they rubbed it in by sending Candice to exile every single time just to hammer in what a bad idea betraying them was.
I’m SO happy you spoke about Lex’s hypocrisy. I know Rob is quite an arrogant guy with lots of people who dislike him, and thus people tend to side with Lex. But I really just think the exact same as you and what you said in the video. He spoke at LENGTH about how the game and real life were seperate, to not combine the two, “it’s just business”, etc. And yet, he still has vim for Rob to this DAY, because of this. That’s wild to me. He’s well within his rights to be a bit hurt and feel betrayed. But the extremes that he took it to was so unnecessary. You could tell Rob was genuinely really hurt by how hard Lex took it too. I’m just glad to see someone else call out Lex’s hypocrisy here because too often it’s painted like he was 100% in the right, and that Rob was the only “bad” guy, when they’re both guilty of more or less the same thing. If you look at what Rob technically said to him, he didn’t even break any promises. And Rob pays(somewhat) for his choices by losing the season, partially due to Lex’s vote. Also you’re so right about that season being one of the most brutal. I love it so much for that tbh. It’s quite a unique season, both in the brutality and the high quality cast, as well as the storyline we got with Ambah(as Rob would say) and Rob. I was quite young when I originally watched this season and I have such a nostalgia for it to this day.
The most satisfying moment of karma is when Carolina was so horrible at playing survivor that she got proposed to at the survivor redemption island reunion.
Completely agree about Lil! The way Savage asked her to let him know, and she was just kinda like “didn’t I ask you the same shit and you couldn’t give me the decency?” Was just so iconic of her. She handled it so well, I couldn’t help but be happy for her. I’m glad it’s #1 on the list!
Honorable honorable mention: the fire in Australian Outback vs. Skupin. Though it’s [likely] a premature karmic smackdown, I still feel that the fire deserves some recognition for delivering justice.
A few more mentions: 1. Vanuatu, the men get outnumbered at the merge, after weakening their tribe by voting out the younger guys, and keeping in Rory, who is a huge liability. Bubba using his kids as an excuse was extremely cringy. 2. Cook Islands. Penner flipping on Raro, after they showed massive hubris. Later, Candice is voted out for her hypocrisy. 3. Micronesia. Joel gets blindsided right after the swap, by the same outsiders and clear liabilities he kept in. 4. Tocantins. Tyson gets blindsided at the same tribal in which he was needlessly smug to Sierra. 5. Samoa. Ben gets voted out after trying to defend a racial slur. 6. HvV. Boston Rob gets voted out after his obnoxious attitude the tribal before it. 7. Philippines. Jeff Kent gets booted after sticking himself in a corner with his anti returnee attitude. 8. Also Philippines. Abi Maria’s hubris backfires when her ally gets booted, and later she gets called out at tribal for her bad behavior. 9. Cagayan. Garrett gets blindsided, with an idol in his possession, after being extremely bossy at camp, to a point where even Spencer, his ally, cringed. 10. WaW. Boston Rob’s bossiness finally backfires, and right after the swap.
The line from Abi Maria lives rent-free in my head next to "He's a Jew, he can't eat the meat 'cause he's a Jew" despite the fact that I haven't watched either seasons
You should do a video about the "best flip pitches", where you talk about people who did the best job at convincing a person to flip to their side (ex. Coach to Cochran, Hayden to Ciera, etc.)
According to Lex during a Q&A on EW during the rise of the pandemic, he claims that the real reason He voted out Jerri over Amber was mainly because of Kathy. Kathy couldn't stand Jerri anymore and her tribe had already saved Jerri twice prior to this vote. It makes a little sense given how much she and Shi-Ann couldn't stand her from the time they picked her to be in their tribe to the day Jerri was voted out. Kathy probably didn't give a crap about strategy at that point and just wanted Jerri gone no matter what. Now Lex could of been talking out of his ass during that Q&A and there may be nothing to back up that claim, but seeing as it's been over 17 years between All-Stars and the Q&A in 2020, I don't see any reason for Lex to have made it up after you had all of that time to reflect since then.
Great list! I thought of Gabby leading Christian's blindside after he was such a rock for her all season. It wasn't until the loved ones visit where Christian showed a different side of himself to his girlfriend, and then Gabby gathered the troops t strike. The satisfying ending of Gabby being blindsided and Christian still not voting for her was a satisfying conclusion!
HARD disagree about the Lex thing. Lex voting out Ethan when a lot of people were already gunning for him (and didn't owe him anything) and having a conversation with him to explain reasoning and make sure their friendship is still intact is completely different than Rob asking for a personal favor, immediately turning the votes onto Lex, lying about it, and then laughing and bragging. Rob deserved every bit of shade he got at tribal council and Lex was 100% justified in how he felt.
I mean, sure, you can retroactively say it was justified, based on Rob's confessionals. But unless I'm mistaken, thats not really something they have access to at ponderosa.
@@queenzoroark Pretty much. He was a previous winner so as soon as they acquired Ethan, the other tribe members wanted him out. Lex switched the vote from Ethan to Hatch and then Colby, saving Ethan in the process, so didn't owe Ethan anything.
To be a little fair to Lex, while yes his anger towards Rob's blindside was hypocritical, its not as hypocritical as most think The thing with him sending home his friends compared to his friend sending him home is the contexts behind both. Ethan and Colby, a returning winner and arguably the most popular Survivor player at the time respectively, were drawing dead going into All Stars, and they and everyone else knew it. With that in mind, it makes a bit more sense that he'd go after them sooner rather than later and that his "nothing personal" mantra actually fit there. Because even if it stung at the time, both Colby and Ethan had to have known it was inevitable that he wouldn't work with them just for being friends outside the game In contrast, Rob explicitly promised Lex that they'd work together if Lex kept Amber (an objectively bad move) and backed out of it immediately following the merge, which is why I think he meant in his speech during final trial council I can easily see an alternate timeline where, instead of making the promise, Rob throws that challenge, votes out Alicia, and the boot order goes exactly the same after (with Jerri in Alicia's spot). In that event, I can see Lex being a little less bitter about the merge vote off and more willing to give Rob the vote In short, yes Lex was being hypocritical in his anger to Rob for betraying him, but not as much of a hypocrite as people like to say
How is season 32 not in here?? Tai not using the super idol to save Scott in Kaoh Rong! I was rooting so hard against Jason and Scott and that was probably the most satisfying possible way for one of them to go out, in my opinion
Awesome Video Topic! :D Keep this up, this was extraordinarily fun watch, even compared to the regular high quality you spoil us with. I'm having trouble coming up with extra topics, but focusing on evocative tribal results, or just stories, as in this case of comeuppances.
some other moments i love are the fans winning the first immunity in Micronesia after the favs were being super cocky along with Russell having his hat burned in HvV after biting Jaison’s socks in samoa
My personal favorite karmic justice moment is Russell losing to natalie. Russell was such an asshole during the season and treated natalie like an afterthought. Watching his face at the reunion was glorious 😊
Not really cuz it’s dumb. Shirin was the one who started the situation by making up a rumor about will lying about his auction prize. Tbh a lot of the drama from the season comes from the auction. Anyways I have no sympathy for Shirin and no one should because she played the victim the whole time.
@@mikemars2112 you clearly didn’t watch the season and just remember a basic edit. I hope someone shitty pisses you off and everyone agreees with them and not you. But again it’s just a tv show 🤷🏾♂️
@@JimmyVermeer I wouldn’t go as far as saying it should be number 1, but it definitely should be up there. No need to filter out karmic moments that weren’t by votes, like Abi Maria being called out for her bratty behavior, or Candice getting a truth bomb at the auction before going to exile again. What I find baffling is that there are people who defend those 2, as well as Will. They don’t deserve any defending whatsoever. They’re immature, they can’t take criticism, and they complain like brats over a game not going their way. For Will and Candice, it’s also hypocritical. Candice betrayed her tribe for no good reason (and no, hormones is not a good reason), and Will had already given everyone a reason to “question his integrity” in the Vince vote.
@@raheemfielder-bey998 Except Shirin wasn't the only one who had questioned his integrity, and Will knew it, so to single her out just seemed uncalled for
The Savage boot is one that I'm mixed on, Pearl Islands is great and probably is better with Lil being there to ruin everyone's plans. However, Skinny Ryan and Lil are such buzzkills that I don't think they do well on any tribe and people forget that if the Outcast twist never happens, Savage probably leads the pathetic Morgan tribe to the greatest comeback in Survivor history and takes Rupert's spot for one of the most beloved contestants ever. It really speaks volumes about the guy that Probst talks more about how dirty Savage was done than Savage himself.
I would add Chrissy winning the random rock draw family visit over Ben, who had betrayed her in a way that made her and Ryan look stupid. It was pure luck, and pure karma
You know, I get being annoyed at a betrayal for a player you really like. Heck, I still wish Cochran didn’t flip on Savaii even though his flip was perfectly justified for how he was treated, despite not being a good move for him imo. But Lex’s situation in All Stars is so blatantly hypocritical that I don’t get why people defend his behavior in All-Stars. Lex is allowed to feel betrayed and nobody can tell him otherwise, but him trying to make Rob’s betrayal of him as some morally outrageous behavior is ridiculous, especially after his betrayals of Ethan and Colby as you talked about. Heck, Lex’s confessional before voting off Ethan just makes his subsequent reaction to being voted off even more absurd. To be clear, I like Lex, I think he brought a lot of good to both of his seasons. However, I will always be critical of his bitterness on All-Stars knowing how blatantly hypocritical it was given the circumstances.
The most satisfying moment of karma in Survivor history in my opinion is Austin voting out J Maya and Kellie in 45 because they dared to choose the advantage over a sandwich! That's just unnecessarily cruel ! 😡😤😭 Also, Savage's Zumiez-esque jury outfit in Cambodia still haunts me
I never understood the smugness of the Rotu four. They never had the numbers! Sure, no one in the previous 3 seasons had turned on their pre-merge alliance. But no one had been so smug and "in your face" about their alliance, either...especially when they were not at a numbers advantage. It didn't take much for Paschal and Neleh to see the writing on the wall and flip. If the Rotu four had played it closer to the hilt, they would have succeeded, and in all likelihood John would have won the season.
To add to Andrew Savage's misery, in his 2nd season, he gets idoled out when Kelly Wentworth nullifies 9 votes, and gets taunted by Abi with her "at least you made the jury" line as he walked away from tribal council
It is such a situational move, you can’t just use throw a challenge because you’re fed up with someone(Zapatera and Drew) The best challenge throws divide the outsiders and strengthen your odds going forward(Boran and New Zealand’s Hermosa tribe)
Only time it's smart to throw a challenge is at a swap when you have the majority and want to protect an alliance member that got swap screwed (Mike throwing immunity so Kelly would be safe), or you want to get out the biggest threat from the opposing tribe (Ethan throwing to get rid of clear threat Silas)
Cochran shouldve stuck with savaii. either way, he didnt have a good chance of getting to the end but at least with Savaii, if he did get to the end he could actually win. Upolu jury could be won over. if he got to the end with Upolu he would get flamed at final tribal by the savaii jury and no chance of winning at all. also it wouldnt make sense for Ozzy to play the idol on Cochran becuz theyre actually trying to avoid rocks (just like Cochran). why would they waste the idol on Cochran? they know he isnt the target that Upolu is voting for cuz he is playing double agent. that would be like if Parvati played an idol for Russel at the merge of Heroes v Villains to secure his loyalty even tho she knows he isnt getting votes from the heroes cuz he is playing double agent. very silly logic
Won't defend Lex but so much, but until someone provides evidence that he begged Ethan and/or Colby to make moves against their own interests, I can't buy the "it's the same thing!" argument.
I would agree it's not quite the same thing and in hindsight is one of the most brutal backstabs in the show's history. His voting confessional for Ethan is so petty, that it makes it hard to be on Lex's side afterwards (Especially when it happens to be aimed towards one of the nicest people in Survivor history).
Another element to it that nobody seems to acknowledge is the fake way Rob approaches it. He goes to Lex and Kathy and acts like it was a devastating decision, then to the camera he’s laughing about it and talking about how much of an idiot lex is
@@listo393 Rob 100% deserved to lose All-Stars and was a dick about it. I think he genuinely felt bad about the Lex boot. I know guys like Boston Rob who had the same level of bravado anytime they win at his age and more often than not, have no idea when they are crossing a line. Between the voting confessional and how broken he seems at FTC, I don't see Boston Rob as being a Heidik level sociopath that set out to crush his opponents (Honestly, he might have won Shii-Ann's vote if he was a little more cold at that vote).
To be fair I'm a Lex defender here. He didn't make an explicit alliance or promise to Ethan. But Rob said "you take care of her, I take care of you". That's a pretty clear offer of alliance or at least not voting Lex out right away. If Lex didnt make an alliance or promise to Ethan then he didnt break anything, so I dont think this is hypocrisy
@@freddytang2128 Hell, Lex saved Ethan from being a boot right away TWICE, which was the original plan when Mogo Mogo was choosing the members from the dissolved Saboga. Ethan owes more to him than Lex does to him.
idk what it is for me, but hearing men talk about reality tv is my favorite niche 😂❤❤ there’s this one guy who talks about bachelor, and he has a whole wife and a baby that he watches the epis with before recapping ❤❤
I actually really like Savage, but both of his eliminations are so satisfying. He's just such a cocky guy and seeing him bitterly get voted off twice is great.
I disagree with the Cochran analyst, except the fact that Kieth was his ‘number one bully who had it coming.’ I think Cochran was safely under Jim’s wing who thought he could drag him to the final 3 with a goat named Dawn. If he stuck with the original plan (and told them he convinced the tribe to vote for Kieth) he would have made it further in the game and wouldn’t have been forced to draw rocks. The alliance he switched to was worse than what he was originally working with IMO.
Savage is the definition of survivor justice every season he played that man got his kaarma thanks to Purple Kelly Wigglesworth lol different Kelly’s I know but tell me I’m wrong
What about the time Wenworth eliminated Savage? That was even worse. The final comment before leaving when Abi Maria said´´ at least you made the jury´´. That was Savage ego paying him back and even worse than with Lil.
I've always heard that they were friends in real life, and Lex's speech when voting against Colby reinforces that: "You and I both know that this game has absolutely nothing to do with friendship. I had to make a hard call, and it meant taking you out." If I'm wrong though and they weren't actually pals IRL, my mistake!
A personal favorite : when The Team Rocket Villains of Kaoh Rong, Jason and Scot ,after being bullies the whole season, were blindsided when Tai refused to activate the super idol, sending both Scot and Jason's idol home. Amazing
YES
I mean, i wanted to see it played out. I wanted to see that power activated.
Of well, tai won so i am happy.
HOW DARE YOU SIR!
How dare you compare two of the most endearingly lovable villains in anime history to two irredeemable sh*tbags like Scott and Jason?
Like seriously, how much more insulting can you get?
@@roger_towny_jr Yes yes I Can understand, I nicknamed them Team Rocket because of how unserious they were taken as threats by the other contestants and for how they were easily defeated at each of their action to be evil. But yes I love Rocket Trio
Jason for HvV 2!!!
One of the reasons why I love the fact that survivor has been going on for so long is that I know that we will never run out of videos by you. Thank you, Mr. Idoled Out
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That face change of hearing "Edgardo" will forever be iconic.
Genuinely one of my favorite moments in the show.
Stunned that the Horsemen didn't even rate a mention.
An unofficial rule in survivor: never ever make it clear to a tribemate that they’re on the outs, spring the premerge or early merge. Burning bridges eliminates options.
Gotta love the Lairo tribe for the best example of that, why take out Karishma who you’ve insulted and ignored for the last 6 days when you could take out Chelsea because Missy is bored
I guess credit to the cult alliance for sorta making Edna think she’s an equal member. Apparently before Brandon told Edna she’s on the outs, she didn’t even know she’s not part of the core five
I'm with you on all of this except for "spring."
Can someone explain? What did autocorrect correct?
Sandra burning Russell's hat on day 39, bringing his story full circle with Jaison's socks, should be an honorable mention.
The ultimate karma to Shirin denying Will his letter from home is in how one of Will's cruel insults, Will says that- likely based on HER letter from home- that there was nobody in her life that loves her.
Holy shít, what happened with her letter?! The only way I can think of for that to make any sense is if she didn't get a letter at all.
Ffs, I wouldn't have let Will have his letter either, goddámn.
@@ArcanineEspeon I don't think she didn't- at least on the show- but it's absolutely possible she got Lewis'd. She also could have just gotten it from a friend, or maybe Will was just being a pissy little bitch.
There's a cross-season moment of incredible Karmic justice on Season 19 and 20. Russell burning Jaison's socks on Day 1 of Season 19, and then Sandra burning Russell's hat on Day 39 of Season 20. So good.
the best part is sandra hadn't even seen hvv, she just knew 💅
I will never know what DEITY gave her the idea to BURN HIS HAT but whoever it is I worship her in advance.
@@ashen_roses I wonder if it was a producer who somehow slipped her the idea. But if it was, it was superb TV and I'm glad they did it.
Sandra possibly the most overrated player
@@Fitzbits687 I love how Russell's little fuckboys have to come in and throw any female who won over him under the bus. The two things they hate most, I'm sure: Russell lost and a B I T C H won
Drew: *throws a challenge and gets himself voted out* 😂
Meanwhile Burton:
@@snobeyhim too
Refresh my memory, are you talking about Drew Christy or Drew Basile?
@@JimmyVermeer Drew Christy, he intentionally threw a basketball-type shooting challenge and Jeff kept mentioning how badly he was doing during it 🤣
Plot twist! We talking about drew nickens!!
I *love* the Sharin-Will moment. I also love how she threw him under the bus at FTC. He deserved every bit of karma that he was given
"Lil, f**k you!"
"Lil, f**k the scouts too!" 😂
Idoled Out, I just want to say thanks for giving the best Survivor analysis videos. Very entertaining to listen to while doing PreCalculus homework.
That's so kind of you to say. Thanks for watching!
@@IdoledOut No problem! Have you considered a video about fake idols?
You gotta mention Natalie beating Russell at FTC. He was so horrible to everyone and he thought he had it in the bag, only for Erik to absolutely demolish him. Pure gold
Boston Rob did exactly what Lex supposedly did to Ethan, only to be screw by Lex at the finale... perfect arc for both.
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Okay...AGAIN! For the seven hundred MILLIONTH TIME!!!
Lex NEVER made a deal with Ethan than mercilessly broke it the first chance he got after Ethan upheld his end of the bargain.
Lex NEVER weaponized his real life friendship to mentally and emotionally manipulate Ethan into making a move that was against his better interests!
Lex. NEVER! After voting off hid supposed friend go on to then unapologetically GLOAT about it to his family.
Look past the surfaces, and these situations are NOTHING alike!
But Boston Rob got the girl.
@@roger_towny_jrtrue but that’s simply because of different power dynamics. Lex didn’t do those things because he was in the power position, but Rob needed to be more manipulative to get his way because he was not in the power position.
@peytonbond4886 Bull sh*t!
Rob was dominating in challenges he had contingencies and alliances with everyone, and was the most powerful player at every stage of this game. Lex was the one in the more desperate situation and HAD to vote people off cause his tribe kept losing.
@@roger_towny_jr Wording is key in some cases as Rob technically never made it clear he was interested in working with him. Honestly he probably makes the same deal with anyone in the power position where Amber gets swap screwed. Lex was the one who put himself in a position to be a target that even if Amber weren't to be saved, in terms of another Chapera member, minus Tom because of the pre made, he still goes him in the same spot.
Honestly, Reed going off at Missy at FTC was well deserved for how she acted during the game.
Absolutely, god tier final tribal speech
not to mention voting Jaclyn to make Missy third on purpose, we stan a petty king
@@azimuthal1392 yess this this
@@IdoledOut One of the greatest of all time. 👌👌🔥
@@azimuthal1392oh shit I wasn’t aware of this, that’s hilarious. Love him for that 😂
Calling Will a dead fish cosplayer made me laugh so hard 😂 I was not expecting that. That whole season was so insanely chaotic.
That quote from Lil is probably top5 of all time, so cold and SO good! Both Savage vote outs are crazy awesome.
need a part 2 cuz there are so many more! some of my top picks:
- drew vote out after throwing the challenge and his cocky attitude
- tai not playing the super idol for scot and Jason
- Russell not winning to not one but two women he gloated about beating
- penner being ostracized and his and Candice's downfalls post mutiny
I'm surprised you didn't include the Aitu 4 getting revenge on Candice and Penner for betraying them. Not only were they completely undefeated in the tribal section of the game, but they rubbed it in by sending Candice to exile every single time just to hammer in what a bad idea betraying them was.
14:59 and then he came back in second chance and made it to the jury. And we got to see his jury fashion which 2000s in 2015.
I’m SO happy you spoke about Lex’s hypocrisy. I know Rob is quite an arrogant guy with lots of people who dislike him, and thus people tend to side with Lex. But I really just think the exact same as you and what you said in the video. He spoke at LENGTH about how the game and real life were seperate, to not combine the two, “it’s just business”, etc. And yet, he still has vim for Rob to this DAY, because of this. That’s wild to me. He’s well within his rights to be a bit hurt and feel betrayed. But the extremes that he took it to was so unnecessary. You could tell Rob was genuinely really hurt by how hard Lex took it too. I’m just glad to see someone else call out Lex’s hypocrisy here because too often it’s painted like he was 100% in the right, and that Rob was the only “bad” guy, when they’re both guilty of more or less the same thing. If you look at what Rob technically said to him, he didn’t even break any promises. And Rob pays(somewhat) for his choices by losing the season, partially due to Lex’s vote.
Also you’re so right about that season being one of the most brutal. I love it so much for that tbh. It’s quite a unique season, both in the brutality and the high quality cast, as well as the storyline we got with Ambah(as Rob would say) and Rob. I was quite young when I originally watched this season and I have such a nostalgia for it to this day.
Can we count Skupin falling in the fire as pre-karma? 😂
And Abi-Maria preemptively dispensing justice with a coconut to the noggin? 🥥😵
What he do?
@@amanidlaw Inappropriate pictures of minors. 😬
@@kaitlynwickham6237yikes. 😟
I’d say all his injuries are Karmic in that season. That and Denise winning
The most satisfying moment of karma is when Carolina was so horrible at playing survivor that she got proposed to at the survivor redemption island reunion.
Shut the flippin' front door
Like TWO YEARS later
I'm honestly shocked we didn't get the "Survivor loooooves blinding me" clip in this one
Completely agree about Lil! The way Savage asked her to let him know, and she was just kinda like “didn’t I ask you the same shit and you couldn’t give me the decency?” Was just so iconic of her. She handled it so well, I couldn’t help but be happy for her. I’m glad it’s #1 on the list!
Honorable honorable mention: the fire in Australian Outback vs. Skupin. Though it’s [likely] a premature karmic smackdown, I still feel that the fire deserves some recognition for delivering justice.
@laurenpfeil I forget if it was Idoled Out or Peridiam who had the gem of a quote: "time has proven the fire correct."
My favorite karma moment from Survivor is The Aitu 4 after the mutiny. Savage, well played, and beating the odds. What more can you ask for.
Knowing that Lil only made 100k because people didn’t wanna spend 2 weeks with her is hilarious
Honorable mention to the entire final tribal of HvV as karma against Russell
He can´t see that Survivor is social game.
@@popmans9999 Neither can his fans, because there's always at least one post on social media daily about how robbed he was
A few more mentions:
1. Vanuatu, the men get outnumbered at the merge, after weakening their tribe by voting out the younger guys, and keeping in Rory, who is a huge liability. Bubba using his kids as an excuse was extremely cringy.
2. Cook Islands. Penner flipping on Raro, after they showed massive hubris. Later, Candice is voted out for her hypocrisy.
3. Micronesia. Joel gets blindsided right after the swap, by the same outsiders and clear liabilities he kept in.
4. Tocantins. Tyson gets blindsided at the same tribal in which he was needlessly smug to Sierra.
5. Samoa. Ben gets voted out after trying to defend a racial slur.
6. HvV. Boston Rob gets voted out after his obnoxious attitude the tribal before it.
7. Philippines. Jeff Kent gets booted after sticking himself in a corner with his anti returnee attitude.
8. Also Philippines. Abi Maria’s hubris backfires when her ally gets booted, and later she gets called out at tribal for her bad behavior.
9. Cagayan. Garrett gets blindsided, with an idol in his possession, after being extremely bossy at camp, to a point where even Spencer, his ally, cringed.
10. WaW. Boston Rob’s bossiness finally backfires, and right after the swap.
I actually like Savage but his elimination in Pearl Islands and Cambodia were both sweet sweet karma.
The line from Abi Maria lives rent-free in my head next to "He's a Jew, he can't eat the meat 'cause he's a Jew" despite the fact that I haven't watched either seasons
He made it to the jury!
You should do a video about the "best flip pitches", where you talk about people who did the best job at convincing a person to flip to their side (ex. Coach to Cochran, Hayden to Ciera, etc.)
So glad to hear someone else agrees with me about Lexs All stars games preaches business over personal and then took everything personally
Roger Sexton boot episode and the downfall of the Rotu 4 is top tier karmic justice for me!
« UA-cam sensation and dead fish cosplayer » I’m crying 😂😂😭
According to Lex during a Q&A on EW during the rise of the pandemic, he claims that the real reason He voted out Jerri over Amber was mainly because of Kathy. Kathy couldn't stand Jerri anymore and her tribe had already saved Jerri twice prior to this vote. It makes a little sense given how much she and Shi-Ann couldn't stand her from the time they picked her to be in their tribe to the day Jerri was voted out. Kathy probably didn't give a crap about strategy at that point and just wanted Jerri gone no matter what. Now Lex could of been talking out of his ass during that Q&A and there may be nothing to back up that claim, but seeing as it's been over 17 years between All-Stars and the Q&A in 2020, I don't see any reason for Lex to have made it up after you had all of that time to reflect since then.
Plus Jerri proved to be an egomaniac with how bitter she was even years after HvV, not to mention showing a bratty judgment.
I kept saying “please let Savage be number one…” you didn’t disappoint.
Great list! I thought of Gabby leading Christian's blindside after he was such a rock for her all season. It wasn't until the loved ones visit where Christian showed a different side of himself to his girlfriend, and then Gabby gathered the troops t strike. The satisfying ending of Gabby being blindsided and Christian still not voting for her was a satisfying conclusion!
An odd one: Purple Kelly getting immortalized for her edit subverting the producers' plans to punish her into obscurity.
The Shirin moment lives rent free. It’s in my most common gifs used LOL
11:49 Funny enough, the first video of yours I ever watched was weirdest jobs in Survivor.
HARD disagree about the Lex thing. Lex voting out Ethan when a lot of people were already gunning for him (and didn't owe him anything) and having a conversation with him to explain reasoning and make sure their friendship is still intact is completely different than Rob asking for a personal favor, immediately turning the votes onto Lex, lying about it, and then laughing and bragging. Rob deserved every bit of shade he got at tribal council and Lex was 100% justified in how he felt.
@@justicepunch8758 Didn't Mogo Mogo chose Ethan because he would be an easy boot already?
I mean, sure, you can retroactively say it was justified, based on Rob's confessionals. But unless I'm mistaken, thats not really something they have access to at ponderosa.
@@roguemerc Rob stank of arrogance and pretentiousness the entire game. You probably didn't need to hear his confessionals for that to come across.
@@roguemerc Rob talked about how giddy he was that he "snaked" Lex to other tribemates. Surely that info got to Lex by the time that FTC happened.
@@queenzoroark Pretty much. He was a previous winner so as soon as they acquired Ethan, the other tribe members wanted him out. Lex switched the vote from Ethan to Hatch and then Colby, saving Ethan in the process, so didn't owe Ethan anything.
To be a little fair to Lex, while yes his anger towards Rob's blindside was hypocritical, its not as hypocritical as most think
The thing with him sending home his friends compared to his friend sending him home is the contexts behind both. Ethan and Colby, a returning winner and arguably the most popular Survivor player at the time respectively, were drawing dead going into All Stars, and they and everyone else knew it. With that in mind, it makes a bit more sense that he'd go after them sooner rather than later and that his "nothing personal" mantra actually fit there. Because even if it stung at the time, both Colby and Ethan had to have known it was inevitable that he wouldn't work with them just for being friends outside the game
In contrast, Rob explicitly promised Lex that they'd work together if Lex kept Amber (an objectively bad move) and backed out of it immediately following the merge, which is why I think he meant in his speech during final trial council
I can easily see an alternate timeline where, instead of making the promise, Rob throws that challenge, votes out Alicia, and the boot order goes exactly the same after (with Jerri in Alicia's spot). In that event, I can see Lex being a little less bitter about the merge vote off and more willing to give Rob the vote
In short, yes Lex was being hypocritical in his anger to Rob for betraying him, but not as much of a hypocrite as people like to say
How is season 32 not in here?? Tai not using the super idol to save Scott in Kaoh Rong! I was rooting so hard against Jason and Scott and that was probably the most satisfying possible way for one of them to go out, in my opinion
Awesome Video Topic! :D
Keep this up, this was extraordinarily fun watch, even compared to the regular high quality you spoil us with.
I'm having trouble coming up with extra topics, but focusing on evocative tribal results, or just stories, as in this case of comeuppances.
Oh sweet sweet karma was also Venus outlasting Soda, Tevin and Hunter who were big jerks toward her for no reasons
“No reason”
@@BigmoneyBrickwall not vibing with a person is not a reason to ostracize a person
some other moments i love are the fans winning the first immunity in Micronesia after the favs were being super cocky
along with Russell having his hat burned in HvV after biting Jaison’s socks in samoa
Mike winning season 30 is the only way for the season to end!
The Lex karma bout has the double dip of Lex thinking he finally got revenge at FTC, just for B Rob to get engaged to Amber in the finale.
Where's an honorable mention for Natalie White's win over Russell? (with an addendum that you could call Russell's full three season arc karmic)
I absolutely love Shireen and laughed so hard when she raised her hand. Karma's a bitch!
My personal favorite karmic justice moment is Russell losing to natalie. Russell was such an asshole during the season and treated natalie like an afterthought. Watching his face at the reunion was glorious 😊
The Savage vote out is just fucking amazing
Why was the Shirin and Will thing merely an honourable mention? It should have been number one!
Not really cuz it’s dumb. Shirin was the one who started the situation by making up a rumor about will lying about his auction prize. Tbh a lot of the drama from the season comes from the auction. Anyways I have no sympathy for Shirin and no one should because she played the victim the whole time.
😂😂😂 @@raheemfielder-bey998
@@mikemars2112 you clearly didn’t watch the season and just remember a basic edit. I hope someone shitty pisses you off and everyone agreees with them and not you. But again it’s just a tv show 🤷🏾♂️
@@JimmyVermeer I wouldn’t go as far as saying it should be number 1, but it definitely should be up there. No need to filter out karmic moments that weren’t by votes, like Abi Maria being called out for her bratty behavior, or Candice getting a truth bomb at the auction before going to exile again.
What I find baffling is that there are people who defend those 2, as well as Will. They don’t deserve any defending whatsoever. They’re immature, they can’t take criticism, and they complain like brats over a game not going their way. For Will and Candice, it’s also hypocritical. Candice betrayed her tribe for no good reason (and no, hormones is not a good reason), and Will had already given everyone a reason to “question his integrity” in the Vince vote.
@@raheemfielder-bey998 Except Shirin wasn't the only one who had questioned his integrity, and Will knew it, so to single her out just seemed uncalled for
Love your channel!
The Savage boot is one that I'm mixed on, Pearl Islands is great and probably is better with Lil being there to ruin everyone's plans. However, Skinny Ryan and Lil are such buzzkills that I don't think they do well on any tribe and people forget that if the Outcast twist never happens, Savage probably leads the pathetic Morgan tribe to the greatest comeback in Survivor history and takes Rupert's spot for one of the most beloved contestants ever.
It really speaks volumes about the guy that Probst talks more about how dirty Savage was done than Savage himself.
i feel like tai not giving scot the idol has to be on this list 😂😂
I would add Chrissy winning the random rock draw family visit over Ben, who had betrayed her in a way that made her and Ryan look stupid. It was pure luck, and pure karma
I'd have voted for Shirin to win over what she did to Will.
She was annoying most of the time, but I gotta credit her for that FTC speech
You know, I get being annoyed at a betrayal for a player you really like. Heck, I still wish Cochran didn’t flip on Savaii even though his flip was perfectly justified for how he was treated, despite not being a good move for him imo.
But Lex’s situation in All Stars is so blatantly hypocritical that I don’t get why people defend his behavior in All-Stars. Lex is allowed to feel betrayed and nobody can tell him otherwise, but him trying to make Rob’s betrayal of him as some morally outrageous behavior is ridiculous, especially after his betrayals of Ethan and Colby as you talked about. Heck, Lex’s confessional before voting off Ethan just makes his subsequent reaction to being voted off even more absurd.
To be clear, I like Lex, I think he brought a lot of good to both of his seasons. However, I will always be critical of his bitterness on All-Stars knowing how blatantly hypocritical it was given the circumstances.
Cochran descision was valid bro so when he came back and won I was ecstatic also he and Sophie were the only ones who weren't in coaches' weird cult
Ohhh Philip choosing to sit out of the top 10 immunity challenge in Caramoan, and being voted out that tribal.
The most satisfying moment of karma in Survivor history in my opinion is Austin voting out J Maya and Kellie in 45 because they dared to choose the advantage over a sandwich! That's just unnecessarily cruel ! 😡😤😭
Also, Savage's Zumiez-esque jury outfit in Cambodia still haunts me
I will say, in defense of Savage... bro had absolutely zero reason to believe pissing off Lil on the way out would cause him any trouble
“Dead fish cosplayer” 😂😂😂 I hate Will so much. He’s probably my personally most hated player ever. Well, other than creepy Dan from 39.
I’d group them both with Colton Cumbie and Ben Browning
John did beat Boston Rob so he has that!
"hard to narrow it down to just five" aka "expect a part two coming soon"
I’ve been watching an aggressive amount of My Name Is Earl so this video topic came at a great time.
I never understood the smugness of the Rotu four. They never had the numbers! Sure, no one in the previous 3 seasons had turned on their pre-merge alliance. But no one had been so smug and "in your face" about their alliance, either...especially when they were not at a numbers advantage. It didn't take much for Paschal and Neleh to see the writing on the wall and flip. If the Rotu four had played it closer to the hilt, they would have succeeded, and in all likelihood John would have won the season.
To add to Andrew Savage's misery, in his 2nd season, he gets idoled out when Kelly Wentworth nullifies 9 votes, and gets taunted by Abi with her "at least you made the jury" line as he walked away from tribal council
I was expecting number one to be [redacted] falling in the fire
👍 Cochran was way overrated by production. Also sweet thumbnail 😂
I thought for sure Drew getting voted out after throwing a challenge to target Kelley for no reason in San Juan del Sur would be on the list.
When Zapatera threw that challenge because they didn’t want Russell and they all got picked off one by one in the merge
Never throw challenges unless you know you/your alliance members aren't going home 🙄
It is such a situational move, you can’t just use throw a challenge because you’re fed up with someone(Zapatera and Drew)
The best challenge throws divide the outsiders and strengthen your odds going forward(Boran and New Zealand’s Hermosa tribe)
Only time it's smart to throw a challenge is at a swap when you have the majority and want to protect an alliance member that got swap screwed (Mike throwing immunity so Kelly would be safe), or you want to get out the biggest threat from the opposing tribe (Ethan throwing to get rid of clear threat Silas)
Cochran shouldve stuck with savaii. either way, he didnt have a good chance of getting to the end but at least with Savaii, if he did get to the end he could actually win. Upolu jury could be won over. if he got to the end with Upolu he would get flamed at final tribal by the savaii jury and no chance of winning at all. also it wouldnt make sense for Ozzy to play the idol on Cochran becuz theyre actually trying to avoid rocks (just like Cochran). why would they waste the idol on Cochran? they know he isnt the target that Upolu is voting for cuz he is playing double agent. that would be like if Parvati played an idol for Russel at the merge of Heroes v Villains to secure his loyalty even tho she knows he isnt getting votes from the heroes cuz he is playing double agent. very silly logic
I felt both good and bad for Cochran. His tribe wasn't that great to him - yet he fell for the "you won't be last with us" trick.
Luckily, he redeemed himself on his second season.
As super fan unless I have an idol I'm not going to rocks. I mean I would like to see one but I would definitely not want to be part of one.
Thank you! Lex is the biggest hypocrite ever and to this day still butthurt about it.
sean needs to play again man
Won't defend Lex but so much, but until someone provides evidence that he begged Ethan and/or Colby to make moves against their own interests, I can't buy the "it's the same thing!" argument.
I would agree it's not quite the same thing and in hindsight is one of the most brutal backstabs in the show's history.
His voting confessional for Ethan is so petty, that it makes it hard to be on Lex's side afterwards (Especially when it happens to be aimed towards one of the nicest people in Survivor history).
Another element to it that nobody seems to acknowledge is the fake way Rob approaches it. He goes to Lex and Kathy and acts like it was a devastating decision, then to the camera he’s laughing about it and talking about how much of an idiot lex is
@@listo393 Rob 100% deserved to lose All-Stars and was a dick about it. I think he genuinely felt bad about the Lex boot. I know guys like Boston Rob who had the same level of bravado anytime they win at his age and more often than not, have no idea when they are crossing a line.
Between the voting confessional and how broken he seems at FTC, I don't see Boston Rob as being a Heidik level sociopath that set out to crush his opponents (Honestly, he might have won Shii-Ann's vote if he was a little more cold at that vote).
Candice getting sent to exile over and over again after leaving her tribe
She got similar karma in HvV
I wholeheartedly agree with the Lex vote!
You should of added to that honorable mention that Jeff pointed out her karma during the first tribal in the very next season
To be fair I'm a Lex defender here. He didn't make an explicit alliance or promise to Ethan. But Rob said "you take care of her, I take care of you". That's a pretty clear offer of alliance or at least not voting Lex out right away. If Lex didnt make an alliance or promise to Ethan then he didnt break anything, so I dont think this is hypocrisy
@@freddytang2128 Hell, Lex saved Ethan from being a boot right away TWICE, which was the original plan when Mogo Mogo was choosing the members from the dissolved Saboga. Ethan owes more to him than Lex does to him.
COOL BEANNSS
Everybody says Coach really improved in South Pacific as a player. I say it's more that Ozzy's lying is so bad that even HE can recognize it.
idk what it is for me, but hearing men talk about reality tv is my favorite niche 😂❤❤ there’s this one guy who talks about bachelor, and he has a whole wife and a baby that he watches the epis with before recapping ❤❤
Natalie idoling Baylor out - long term karma for the Jeremy blindside
I actually really like Savage, but both of his eliminations are so satisfying. He's just such a cocky guy and seeing him bitterly get voted off twice is great.
The background music from 10:19 to 10:29 made Rob's betrayal even more hilarious and brutal 😂
Lex is the biggest hypocrite in the history of survivor. That's what you get for screwing over Colby & Ethan ♡♡
I disagree with the Cochran analyst, except the fact that Kieth was his ‘number one bully who had it coming.’ I think Cochran was safely under Jim’s wing who thought he could drag him to the final 3 with a goat named Dawn. If he stuck with the original plan (and told them he convinced the tribe to vote for Kieth) he would have made it further in the game and wouldn’t have been forced to draw rocks.
The alliance he switched to was worse than what he was originally working with IMO.
Dawn wasn't a goat this season. She was actually very liked.
Cochran didn't know who the other alliance was voting for. They didn't tell him in case he wasn't going to flip.
So, who got the comeuppance in Cochran's case? Going by the way it began I thought it would be Cochran. Now I'm lost.
Where is Silas from Africa???
Savage is the definition of survivor justice every season he played that man got his kaarma thanks to Purple Kelly Wigglesworth lol different Kelly’s I know but tell me I’m wrong
Worlds Apart still such an appallingly vile cast...Dan & Will just gross...
Tyson feels like an egregious omission here. Or is it just to me?
I thought number 1 was gonna be skupin falling in the fire
What about the time Wenworth eliminated Savage? That was even worse. The final comment before leaving when Abi Maria said´´ at least you made the jury´´. That was Savage ego paying him back and even worse than with Lil.
Can anyone tell where I can watch full episodes?
Lex and Colby never liked each other lol
I've always heard that they were friends in real life, and Lex's speech when voting against Colby reinforces that: "You and I both know that this game has absolutely nothing to do with friendship. I had to make a hard call, and it meant taking you out." If I'm wrong though and they weren't actually pals IRL, my mistake!