The WORST thing about being an electrician.... | Thomas Nagy
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Is the electric Van any good?
0:59 - Fulham job
12:00 - We are hiring again :)
13:07 - More on the job in Fulham
14:00 - Are the Chint fuseboards any good?
17:29 - Fitting Ring doorbell
18:46 - Fitting a forklift charger
25:32 - New alloys for the bucket truck
26:56 - Fitting 60+ data cables for a server
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Offering that job to the person you saw is a brilliant thing to do. Glad there's more regular content.
You should look into buying a domain for like £5 a year and using a more professional email address than aol. You can have all emails from the old one forward to your new address, or even have the new domain forward to the aol inbox, but just gives that better public image (which I know you appreciate upholding)
Yep, had to look twice when I saw AOL.
must be his personal email he uses or one he uses for youtube - he has a website, a domain and a company email already
I totally AGREE.
I'm forever talking to tradesmen who have terrible email & web addresses.
I use TSOHost for ALL my emails & URL's. I have also switched to the newer .UK url's. So much simpler.
Owning you OWN url allows you to fully manage email addresses & spam!!
Also. They allow me to have personal emails for the whole family, plus all my motorbikes & cars & vans have their OWN email!!!!
If you need help - please get back to me...
#BWizz
@@kevinwhite2380 I'm a tradesman that still uses a Hotmail account 🙈😂
Wow not seen an AOL account in years. Always bugs me when people say their professional yet don't have a proper domain for their email address. Immediately looks armature
I'd love to see the plumber face when he gets the call to remove the rad so they can decorate behind it
Will need two Plumbers! :D
They do make dummy dimmers that don't actually dim and just clicks on and off... Think varilight make them part of pro range I think
That radiator ended me 😂😂
I didn’t actually notice it when I first went into the room. It was only after moving the furniture did I see it and now I can’t unsee it 🤣
Reminded me of my college bedroom in 3rd year in 2003. I shared a window with the bathroom. Stud wall slap bang in the middle of it. 😂
They're called Belgian Solutions - Belgium is the home of DIY - facebook.com/Belgiansolutions
That radiator in the wall is an excellent idea. 1 rad warms up 2 rooms
And the mice in the wall can have a nice winter of it too!
Energy saving.
Data cable is structured cable. It does matter how you position the cables.
The blue and green pairs are wound tighter than the brown and orange. This is critical in longer runs. Data reflection in the cable is important.
Also you can't just stick 90° bends, they have to be sweeping bends etc.
Over simplifying greatly here. But its not T&E!
T and e has bend radiuses as well
as Tom said, it may not be standard but if you 568A on both ends but put the terminator on upside on both ends too, the net result is exactly the same from a functionality. the blue/white and green white pairs will still be pins 4/5 and 3/6 respectively - it's just to colour codes will be reversed.
It depends. I understood what he was saying was that the order was the complete opposite, ie Bn where WhGn should be. This means that when you plug a patch cord in you will have impedance mismatch at the sockets due to the change in twist rates. If you test this for certification you might find it fails for return loss (have personally seen this occur). For gigabit ethernet it probably won't care, but if you are running something fancy that pushes the MHz to the limit of the class it might have problems. At the end of the day if the customer is asking for certification and you can't provide it, well, the apprentice will be busy re-terminating. Technically if you run T568A in the walls your patch cords (at least during the test) should match, vis-a-vis for B.
I was coming here to make somewhat the comment. As long as you get the right wires in the right spot they work is it to the standard no. Unless the pars are split ( combining a wire from from 2 colors) you shouldn't have issues but if they put it in backwards spliting the pairs there's no guarantee something else is it messed up. To some extent flipping the two wires of the same color shouldn't matter but then you're more likely to get flipped polarities. Thankfully a lot of the equipment these days is able to adjust to most situate most of the time except for that one time you need it to work.
As for why it's that way, There's also the possibility of they were tired, or they didn't know what they were doing, or somebody had to fix one end and couldn't access the other ( cough because it was most likely under a desk ).
Content. So much content. I feel like it’s Christmas morning!
Lock down is really fucking us up in Australia so your videos are still making me feel some one engaged with the trade!
Use a 3 gang dimmer and replace the 3rd.dimmer with a dummy dimmer which is actually a switch. Varilite do various different ones and you swap the nob off the old dimmer onto the dummy so it all looks the same
RAF
was going to suggest the same
Scolmore MD9001
Was gonna say the same. Use a push on/off module. Deta also do them
As I watched Tom explain what he was wanting I was literally thinking this
Offering the clerk lady that job that will 1) Help her financially 2) Encourage loyalty 3) Help her improve her knowledge/skills & 4) Get her started in an actual career.
Sounds like an awesome thing to do Tom!
I see what the manufacturers were going for with the ceiling...keeping it looking "neater" by not having the support grid showing...but at the cost of stability. FAIL!
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Audrey Hollander :)
This was along the lines of my train of thought. I’ll ask 👍
Well now I'm invested in the career prospects of a polish woman in London. Keep us updated tom!
You should definatley offer the polish girl the job🤙
@@thomasnagy Give her a 2 week trial. She gets two weeks holiday and extra 2 weeks pay. No risk to either party.
Another great video I've been watching you for a long time and lately I've been thinking about starting my own company the company I work for does not looks so secure as used to in the past. Your inspiration to electricians and I quite enjoy watching your videos be safe and have a great day
An interesting video, it brought some memories back. The comments about lifting carpets was spot on. I can remember leaving the earth cable in plugs longer the L and N, I thought it was common practice. Finally when you said “I’m getting old” as you knelt down strikes a chord, my knees are painful to kneel on, due to years of kneeling,not bad enough for surgery but I don’t kneel if I can help it.
Damn you know Thomas is back and as his grown business wise so has his content laavvvv it keep on bringing them 🌡️
Dual 1-gang back box, so you only have one hole in the wall if two plates are the only option.
What I've done on occasion if a dummy dimmer wasn't readily available, is pop the cover and bridge the A1 and A2 of the triac with a blob of solder. Sticker on the back saying "switch only". Sorted.
Seriously impressed with a 41 minute video. Have you ever been approached by a TV production company?
Varilight do a dummy dimmer module! Thats what we use Tom! Looks like a dimmer but doesnt rotate (just pushes on/off). We just take the existing dimmer module out & swap it with one of those!
Helping that lady at selco is a great idea !!
I'd pop back to Selco, tell her you have a position open and pass your number on. If she takes the initiative to call and find out more you know she's keen.
31:45 was doing this at the weekend, faceplate and patch panel wired 568a standard, tracer using a 568B cable, could barely hear the tones - made up a 568a cable for the tracer and boom, loud signal at the far end. Keep this in mind, can loose a lot of time trying to find cables otherwise!
One of the best videos you have done methinks. Long and varied. Thanks for taking the time to share, appreciate it ;-)
Thanks you, really appreciate it :)
Wow 45min of Thomas Nagy video. Is the world coming to a end?😀
Great video
Appreciate it man :)
you can add dummy dimmer switch - simple push in for on/off module on the back of the plate.
Great video as always 👍 That radiator was absolutely ridiculous - but very funny 😁😁😁😁
Glad you enjoyed it
We have modular switches here in australia where you can pop out individual switches and swap in dimmer modules wherever and however many you need. Schneider make them so you should be able to order them in
Make sure you tell your insurance company that you have changed the wheels, if not, then they can legally void your cover. You have to tell them the slightest change from standard now.
I can actually picture them doing that. Write off your van and they're like "you didn't tell us you put fluffy dice on the windscreen this is a completely different vehicle" 😅
Same issue in extension I'm doing with regard lighting. I've convinced the customer to go with 2 dimmers and a dummy dimmer module for the under lighting. Asthetically looks better than 2 plus a switch
I've worked above a ceiling like that, there was a special tool that slid up the side of the tile in order to pull it down. Managed to drop a tile on to a very expensive desk.
A “Chint” board is the last board in the wholesalers and you need one right now! I fitted one just to try one. I liked the solid neutral cables as well that’s why decided to try one. Don’t think I’ll ever fit another!
Loved the chair at the end. I have a hammock in my van when I'm on nights and not on a call out. I know that sounds bad sleeping in work but it's a job that is unpredictable for emergency calls.
I do love that chair. I have another one set up in the office, you'll see in next weeks video ;)
Work in the airport which have electric tugs that charge exactly the same as the forklift. The reason we where given for having the battery's exposed was to allow more ventilation for any gasses produced by the batteries while they are being charged.
That would make sense. Lead-acid batteries vent hydrogen when charging.
You can vent the batteries while charging with some louvres on the lid. Opening it risks the contact getting shorted.
I suspect there’s a little bit of it being that’s just how it’s always been done, especially since Hyster are a Yank company and Yank industial manufacturers consider innovation to be the work of the Devil. And maybe partly because a socket may get damaged. But I reckon the former is more likely!
Part of it is isolation, cant drive away if the batteries are physically disconnected from the motor
Recommendations for alarms for your unit: Pyronix, Visonic, Texecom, Scantronic
Absolutely crying at the ceiling tile rant, well done
@thomas nagy i believe the idea behind opening the seat cover is because when charging the battery`s they create a gas that can be explosive/flammable
Hi Tom
You can get dummy dimmers, they work exactly the same as a standard dimmer but don't dim. That's the neastest way I have found.
That radiator is straight out of the Olympic Village in Sochi 😂 also Marbo were made by a company called Marbourn, the factory was about 5 minutes from my house. They shut down about 20 years ago.
This content is top tier
Appreciate pal!
100% agree 👍👏
Content is 👍🔥
Try the hexagonal crimp tools for that 16A socket. They fit better in round holes
Even just basic crimper included on knipex installation pliers (creates a ‘u’ shaped crimp) does the job. I’m sure I’ve seen Nagy use them…
This. And Preciva does offer a hex crimper as well. The only time we used square crimps was in very picky industrial PLC push-in terminals.
with the switching use a 3 gang dimmer and change one of the dimmer modules to push on off, all look the same but the push on off for under cupboard lights, simple
Good for you, man. It's clear you're a genuine good guy with that story about maybe hiring someone to give them a boost. I wish more people, especially electrical business owners LOL, were that way...
We are very much in the same boat as to needing to hire someone in the near future. Same question, do we find someone with all the experience but 'baggage comes along with it too' (possibly reluctant to new management or change) or someone very fresh to mould and grow along with you as a growing company.
I'm leaning towards the second option and help out the little guys.
Thomas nagy has gone into feature length videos... Love it... Great work great content... 👍👍
The dimmer dilemma... Have you ever used dummy dimmers basically a switch that looks like a dimmer.
Click Mode is your best bet for mix and matching switches like dimmers, intermediate etc... in single plate form
Great video once again can see why you would prefer industrial or highways 👍👍
Great vlog Tom 👍🏻good watch this eve
Look forward to your content coming out. Makes good watching. Let's just say there are other channels that are not so worthwhile watching.
When i worked for a council doing cctv, fire alarms, emergency lighting etc when working in the civic centre, the ceiling was very similar, it had a little lip on each panel that would slide into, no lock, it meant get it wrong and it would fall, taking all other ceiling panels with it. This was so bad that you could only work on the ceilings when there was nobody in at the weekends
A big reason for the batteries is that, especially in large warehouses, you have charging rooms where you swap the batteries. I'll try and snap some pictures of the room at work next time I get the chance.
Also, it's not open to touch unless somethings broken. That's why there's plastic caps on all the terminals.
I'm curious about the voltage on that truck battery. The little grey square on the connector is a key and should have the voltage listed on it.
Forklift batteries are typically 48V, some more recent lithium ones 90V
I have old Rocla forklift, it has 24v battery. I charge it with 24v "smart charger", instead of original powerhog, what generates heat more than charge.
Charging with the lid/seat open is a necessity as gas could accumulate when charging, so it's to went it out, at least for older Lead-Acid batteries, the same goes for electric work platforms, you should always be careful around those when they have been charged.
Li-Ion doesnt have that issue and AGM as well I think.
Those batteries are wet cell lead acid and vent a lot of acid vapor to the atmosphere while charging especially when there flat, the lid up while charging is for ventilation and heat dissipation
Lead acid cells do require ventilation. But should not produce any significant gassing until they approach being fully charged. And unless damaged, they should not normally vent acid. As they get close to being fully charged, they will start gassing, and release hydrogen gas.
At 23 minutes "Long Earth" Yes, good idea. In my private stuff at home, I have been following that ethic for years.
I always go with “hire the person , train them to do the work “ hasn’t failed me yet !
Also if you hire very experienced people it's likely that all you will ever hear is "oh, at my old place we didn't do it like that, we did it like this" and finding that they're basically completely disregarding everything you say and doing things however they like... think of a 25 year old chef trying to tell 65 year old nana how to cook roast potatoes... "NOPE I've always done it like this, it's the best way and I'm not gonna change it now" lmao 😅
@@Camberwell86 It's a balance.. Sometimes you hired the person for the improvements they bring; but yes nothing worse then hearing "That's not how I did it" lol
Burgess Ceilings are used in almost every supermarket in the UK. Had many near misses over the years with them. Normally damaged by removing them with screwdrivers rather than the correct tool (looks like a bottle opener)
Hi Tom great content, just something to bare in mind with some of these budget fittings is that they don’t always have a UGR
With the tone and probe you can touch the 2 wires together to short it out making the tone stop so you can confirm the cable
I think it was volex and Crabtree that shared design? Also you could have fitted a dual single dry line box for the separate switches and kept the Schneider 👍🏻👍🏻
Volex was cheapo kit and Crabtree was top notch.
Use a 3 gang plate and get a non dimming module push on/off.
As for under cupboard just use a kinetic module and put the receiver/relay under the cupboard.
No need for any new cabling to switch then.
Kinetic now make modules to go into grids as well.
To change the pendant in the stairwell, knock a hole in the wall and stick your bucket truck in.
The plasterer can skim it when you're done 😆
It is good to help people and give them opportunities and they are more likely to stay. But that will only work for so long. You need to think of how that person can progress in your business and different ways they can add value and profit to your business. The only way to retain employees who work with passion and motivation is through making them invested in your business. This can be done in a number of ways but only you can choose the most appropriate for your business.
Evening thomas , Quinectic switch for the under cupboard kitchen lights is the wire free easier option than wiring
I am pretty sure you could do that configuration with click, volex are or were part of the electrium umbrella that includes crabtree, wylex etc, the newlec boards were re-branded volex ones.
Correct they became part of the Electrium Group. Marbo closded down in 2000
You can get dummy dimmers that look just like a dimmer but are push switches
I've seen the radiator through a wall in a commercial premises as well!
8ft fluorescent (on jack chains) through a partition in a place I did some work in.
That was fun changing the tube!
Fitted a chint board once, had to get a pry bar to straighten the lid out! 😬
You have seen the light…… it is at the top of pole next to a road
I would have thought being in a bucket while it is pissing down in February around 4pm when the day seems to go on forever a house rewire with many pubes may be seem bliss? 😉
I love stuff like that radiator , when the game is trying to work out exactly what was going through the head of the person who would do something like that.
Dont label up cable like that , just patch them all in to the panel and re label after , saves loads of time.
Room that size , 4 APs One in each corner. But please dont do direct runs like that , put a socket in the celling and put a patch cable. You are not supposed to put sloid cable into glass ends like that. Its also better for servicing when its time to upgrade the AP.
I think, that they do the forklift charging designs because there can be gasses etc coming from the batteries when charging, and this forces you to have it open, not 100% sure tho
Save running a new cable you could have just used a quinetic switch, they have them that will fit in an MK grid as well
Regarding the rj45 colour scheme, it doesn't matter for a short run, but it can for longer runs. As they're twisted in pairs to reduce the crosstalk.
8:39 In the states that would never pass a inspection, I think I've seen more stuff like that in the UK.
So electric code in the UK is twice as strict as the US but building and occupancy codes are a lot more lacks.
Switched from ring to Eufy happy days finally no issues and can just enjoy the bell..
32:17 If you short the ends, the tone will go completely silent and you know you got the right cable👍
I’ve worked on them ceiling before 😑 it’s a little bit like jenga if you take too many out and then take 1 wrong one out the full ceiling will honestly collapse I’ve seen it happen before a few years ago
In australia we have plates for swithces, dimmers etc that range from 1 gange to 6 gangall in an approx 125x85mm. YOu can also get blanks to cover up any extra holes and you can pull switch mechs out and put them straigh into a new plate making it nice and easy to add and extra switch (assuming there is space behind it)
The reason why the forklift has the charger cabled that way is that you can swap batterries and it's simpler if you can disconnect them individually, and also when you unplug the battery connector the forklift is dead, thus preventing any accidents.
If you just put in the colors of a CAT6 randomly (but the same on both ends) the cheap tester will show a correct cable but it will not work with more than 10 Mbit. For full speed the twisted pairs need to be in the correct place.
I'm sure that's not correct, but I will try it on a 10Gbit run tomorrow at work
@@kmcat The insulation colours on the wires don’t matter, but being paired up correctly does, especially as cable length and speed increase. I’m sure for a single short cable it’s not that important, but equally a reliable working Gigabit Ethernet connection at 80m+ running in a bundle from a cabinet to an office is going to need the right grade of cable with the correct termination to work reliably. Doubly so at 10G.
Here are the results.
Tested in a live datacentre environment next to other data cables.
CAT6 over 40m in T568B tested out at just under 9Gb/s, the same speed was achieved with colours randomly placed - there was a slight increase in late collisions nothing major for 10Gb CAT6 over that distance.
CAT6 over 90M in T568B 1Gb/s, with colours randomly placed no to little difference
CAT6a over 40m was very much the same as above, using the T568B layout but now was able to achieve around 10Gb/s upto 90m. With colours randomly placed I noticed that 10Gb/s could be achieve but our SFP+ transceiver module did bug out a little.
@@kmcat There are hundreds of different combinations you could end up with, some works and others do not. For a correct cable the following numbers must be from the same colour pair: 1&2, 3&6, 4&5, 7&8.
If you want to try a really slow cable do this:
1 white/orange
2 white/green
3 orange
4 green
5 white/blue
6 white/brown
7 blue
8 brown
I always fit Click Mode dimmer and switch on the same plate, doesn't look like your typical MK grid.
You could have used a dual plasterboard box, then had the 2 gang dimmer and 1gang switch effectively in one box (haven’t read the other comments if someone else has suggested that). Top work though 👍
Great video, much appreciated.
Have a look at Clipsal C2000 in Australia for the switches. you buy a plate and inserts of what ever you want
Best electrician on UA-cam
Easily
What about Dave savery 🤔
Great idea Tom your in a great position to change someone’s life, keep doing what your doing you are all doing awesome 😎
Clipsal (now owned by Schneider) used to make dimmer modules for the "E-series", they were a great series, lot of stuff were swappable, even the switches itself lol.
Clipsal made some wacky stuff in wacky colours 😂
Although you will get a link up so long as you match both ends over Catx, if the colour pairs weren't correctly matched they will likely experience problems at 1000BASE-TX from alien cross-talk and environmental EMI. The point of twisted pair is to provide some cancellation of signal noise on +ve and -ve signal pairs. This would be compounded by other demands, like POE or 802.3bz-2016 data rates like 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T which are supported at reasonable distances on correctly terminated Cat5e and are becoming attractive for existing commercial installations that need higher data rates.
Be careful rolling CAT6. The pairs are different twist sizes and therefore each pair is a different length. This means you need to wire CAT6 correctly.
Mr Nagy, you get a 3gang dimmer switch on a 2gang plate and use a dummy dimmer for lights that can’t be dimmed
Loving all the content
Tom is full on back and I’m here for it! 🤙🏼
I'm glad to hear it :)
Hi To - I would like to offer a suggestion to your mention that any combination of wire colors can be used as long as it is consistent at the other end. That might have easily been true with CAT-3, though with the higher speeds it is quite important that the -A or -B wiring standard is followed. The impedance, frequency response, etc. of the cable and connection relay on which wire/pair in the four pairs carry the signal.
I would have put the WiFi above the false ceiling but good job. Its good to see your regular vids now.
Its like watching a new season of top gear ( However Electricians in action! ) superb top notch content ! One day this will be on Netflix or Amazon prime lol
I appreciate that a lot mate!
@@thomasnagy Mate I really miss the intro… Please bring it back, doesn’t need to be in every video but every now and again just surprise us with the good old intro… I’m sure the other Original followers like myself would really love you for it !! But you know we’d still love you anyway mate but still, please add the good old intro every now and again 😜
Worked in a lathe and plaster house with 3m ceilings, and no consistency with dwang heights.
Really loving the content Thomas, the longer video is brilliant. 👍🏼 I think you should offer that girl the job to come work & train with you guys. I think she will jump at the opportunity.🙂
Thank you, really appreciate it :)
Forklift charging is to vent any hydrogen gas that might come out while it's charging.
I had no idea !
@@thomasnagy it's been a long time since I last drove one and I think they are mainly lead acid batteries so when they charge they can create hydrogen.
@@jerryuk93 like I said it's been a while since I last drove one and even long since I last did the training course. :)
Try click mode you can alter the switches inside the plastic frame do it all the time with 2 gang intermediate switches etc
I believe the seat up thing is two fold. 1 heat dissipation and 2 an extra step to ensure everyone knows it's charging.
You can get stair ladders we’ve had to use a few times. Only thing is the feet/bar that goes Across the bottom is wide but the are handy for these type of jobs just a thought for you. Give her a job she will work harder to learn an better herself an she will repay you in doing the job!!!
Glad you emphasised long earth wire. Job I was on club steward wired the bingo machine. Earth pulled off onto live so chassis went live. It killed him.
Data cable connection to 568-A or 568-B. 568-B commonly used in UK.
Definitely agree with your idea of taking someone on and helping them. I think they would more than likely stay with the business also because of your kind attitude. Do it nagy
Forklift batteries are designed to be changed. Some places run forklifts 24/7 so when the battery is flat, you switch it for another battery. This is why they are unpluggable. Some forklift batteries can be plugged into the charger without opening up the battery cover. Still is one manufacturer that comes to mind.
Also, you are supposed to top up the water in the batteries daily as well. You need access to the cells to do this, although some manufacturers have a quick release fitting on the charging lead so the water is topped up when you plug it into the charger.
That wire tracer is dropping some major beats
seriously, I wanna hear the entire thing lol
I know Varilight do dummy dimmer modules which act like push on/off switches. Most dimmer modules fit a standard hole, so probably would work on a Schneider plate. Alternatively you can get dual dry line boxes to mount two single gang accessories side by side (subject to plate size - doesn’t work with some decorative accessories). Failing that, you can join two single dry-lining boxes together with a small wooden spacer so that the accessories butt up together neatly; slightly faffy, but have done it myself a few times.
You don't need to join two 1g dry lining boxes. You can buy a dual (2 x 1g) box.
@@gadgetman36 indeed, yes - as I noted in my comment ! But sometimes they won’t suit decorative accessories!