Should You Replace Cheap Guitar Switches
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Here is the switch we used in the video amzn.to/3gGtLTh
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Here is the switch we used in the video amzn.to/3gGtLTh
I've been thinking about doing the 4-way switch mod to my thinline tele. A friend said that 4-way switches are better made because they don't make as many of them...what do you think? Is that true?
As far as doing a video everyday? Man that'd be great but don't burn yourself out. I think folks would be happy if you only did 3 or 4 a week
How do you change the technology in a guitar with no pickguard? Since there is little to no information on Jackson js22 guitars on the internet you could help me out with what Jackson Jackson humbuckers are capable of. :)
Seems like those switches are not something you'd choose, but there's also no rush to rip them out of your guitars unless they're giving you trouble, or you're already in there with a hot iron.
Depends on what the guitar is used for. If you are gigging it, then go ahead and swap pots, switches and jacks. If you only ever play it at home for yourself, don't bother until something develops a fault.
The switch in my Squire was giving me troubles right from the start.
yeah, i have one of these in my tele, works just fine for now and the switching feel is actually really good
@@remley8877 Yeah, definitely. they ask $25 for those switchcraft 5pos. in the big jive guitar stores. still expensive for kids. When I was young I had to solder with a 75/150 watt gun...the one with a trigger, that's all there was besides a big plumbing 'stick' iron in garage. You burn n learn, fast! As an old timer, now I can build/clone a Super Lead, S-Rev, Deluxe, whatever etc. I disagree with, or rather call attention to the fact that the exact situation exists w/Switchcraft...the little crescent shaped 'wiper' contact wears out on them, and is designed very much like the cheaper one. or vice versa, as the Switchcraft was first. Sure the Switchcraft is better-longer lasting in most cases, but if your like me and always on volume and tone knobs, if on a budget, I'd replace pots 1st, if they're scratchy, or feel strange, or taper is wrong, otherwise it's just resistance, and low voltage. 2 or 3 resistors in phase inverter MIGHT make a small difference by their composition, but highly doubtful carbon in that pot.........
I wish we had met in a different time. Lots to do still and I feel time is short. I just started building guitar's and repairing them. It's so much fun and I like the people in the atmosphere. They are generally generous as heck. Thanks for all you do big and small
I'm liking the daily videos, even if it's kinda small like this one, or just showing what you're up to that day. I think they're good for community building
I got tired of replacing worn out Blade-type switches on my 2-pickup Strat, so a couple months ago, I replaced it with a small 3-way toggle switch. So far, so good.
Don’t mean sarcastic or anything, but I’m curious. What’s the point in just using the old bobbins on the old pickups. Wouldn’t just be better in just changing the pickups to one of your sets?
He'd have to wind a brand new pickup to put in it anyway, so why not reuse it?
@@FairlyUnknown I think it would be easier to start over with all new bobbins so you dont waste time cutting the old wire off
i thought that to, but $crap copper adds up, so you have a bobbin + polls/screws relevant to the base plate hols etc
I wouldn't say that all PCB switches are bad, I've used Schaller Megaswitches in two of my guitars for almost 20 years. I know a lot of techs are down on them because they can't figure out special case wiring on them, but they are durable, and they don't have the little "legs" on them, which could be difficult for some people, but sometimes "import" is really a serious upgrade
I became a single dad suddenly and had to sell my gear. I found a cheap Ibanez for free on LetGo. Aside from having to set it up it has been great. The only real complaint I have is the pups are dark for cleaner tones. I am blown away by the cheap guitar though, your Jackson video reminded me of it.
I've not had that happen, but did have to sell a Fender Bandmaster head for $50.00 to have oral surgery to remove wisdom tooth. Those amps weren't worth as much in 1974, and oral surgery wasn't as expensive. It was a LOT of money to me then, had just gotten married.
Keep doing videos daily if you are enjoying it. We enjoy them. Don't feel pressured to get a video out every day do what you can and want. We'll be watching. Thanks man.
I really have enjoyed watching every day. Thanks for sharing. I would understand if it was three to four days. You keep making and I will keep watching. Stay safe and Be Blessed
Years ago, I started a rewire mod of an Ibanez 540s. I ordered an upgrade 5-way switch (superswitch or mega switch, I can't remember). I double checked my schematic, uninstalled all the stock electronics, and got it all ready to go only to find out the cavity is not deep enough to accept the upgrade switch. So I had to salvage and reuse the cheap switch. Worked ok, but schematic had to be reworked and wasn't as easy to use.
Really like those short vlog-y style videos. Wouldn't need to be on a daily basis but it's great getting those nice bites of wisdom. Twice to three times a week would be enough if you ask me.
The switches on Squires usually bend if you put pressure on them. The pots are poor materials too. Oak Grigsby switches and CTS pots won’t let you down.
You should play the "Benny Hill" theme song when you do your fast-forwarding shots :)
That's fast forward? I just thought Dylan was fast.
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That's called Yakkity Sax actually. You don't care.
Yes !
I replaced all the electronics in a Squier Strat a while back. The Fender switches only fit in Squiers if you grind out the cavity a bit. The Squier bodies are 1/4 thinner than the Fenders usually.
I Used an Oak Grigsby switch and CTS pots in an Indonesian Affinity made in 2000 at the Cort factory, I didn't have to mess with the cavity and its body is 1.5 inches thick. Are the Fender 5 ways bigger than the Oak Grigsbys or do they route the cavities shallower on the newer ones? But yah, Fender 1.75, Affinity 1.5 and Bullet 1.25.
Please do a vid on finishing off the rewind of these pickups.
I like the daily videos, feel like we’ve gotten to know you, not just as a UA-camr that puts up videos. I think daily would be hard and probably burn you out too quick, but instead of a set fixed number per week, put them out as you can/want. Sometimes 5 a week if you’ve got time and lots of content, some weeks 2 or 3 because you’ve got shit to do. We’re going to be happy either way...this is good stuff and you present it so well...even if you do hurt those poor pups feelings! 😂
The bridge doesn't work on my Tele so I just ordered an Oak switch. It has one of the cheaper "import" switches but afaik it's been in there for many years. The guitar is 35 years old and has seen a lot of play.
Fender and even now some of the Classic vibes, all come with those Oak Grigby switches. My MIM has it. And my MIM player series loaded guard. Love the switches fender uses.
Enjoy your videos. They're both informative and enjoyable. Whatever you decide as far as frequency of videos, I'll be watching.
Why rewinding the pup instead of replacing it by a completely new one?
I'm guessing that the customer asked him to.
Good wide range humbuckers are expensive. The rewinds he offers are somewhat of a cheaper alternative.
Dylan’s rewound Wide Range pickups sound awesome, and it’s a more affordable alternative to putting $600 worth of pickups on a $400 guitar.
That cheap switch was in my JS32RM Jackson when I got it. The switch failed within a month
Again great stuff. And yeah, my cat is fascinated by your show, it's the only thing he watches....
Mine too! He was batting at the screen while Dylan cut apart my pickups.
If it makes you happy to do the videos everyday. I'll watch I love it
Recent subscriber here, found you while searching gretch info and setups... glad you came up, your vids are great! Btw, was that a formula 1 wallpaper on your phone?
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I have a '93 Ibanez RG470 with a PCB type switch - kinda stiff to use but 100% working, still after 27 years. No scratchy noises too.
So not all of those are the same. I don't like it for being too stiff, maybe I'll replace it.
I've been liking the daily videos. Do what's most fun for you! Don't feel pressured that you have to release something
Just saw this one. Question about the switches: when you have a cavity that isn't deep, is there a better quality switch that's not as deep, or is that a case of that's what you're stuck with? Thanks!
I’m confused. You did a video not long ago where you were saying how even cheap pots like Alpha are just fine because they all do basically the same thing. That it’s just a simple component. I even heard you say the small dime size pots can work just fine. But here you say you are replacing the pots for good quality pots.
if a customer asks for it, I do it. ..
DylanTalksTone Got it. Thank you for the simple, to the point reply. I also agree about those switches. I’ve had many fail at the worst time.
I have an old Squier Strat, I replaced all the pots AND the 5 way switch with Fender parts, much better action and feel to the controls, I also replaced the socket with a Switchcraft socket which locks the 1/4 " jack well. I suppose they have to economise on some parts but you can make a cheap guitar better with some relatively inexpensive parts !
Dylan would replacing the chinese 3 way switch in my LP for a switchcraft improve sound quality ?
Hi Dylan. Many thanks for your advice on the 3 way switch. I've just purchased a panel assembly from eBay, to use on my DIY lapsteel that I am building. I shall now replace that switch and the pots as well. Thanks again. Keep up the great video content. Cheers from OZ, Chris. 🙃🦘
I don’t get the fake wide range humbuckers if they are just regular humbuckers then what makes them sound different from other humbuckers? Are they lower output or something? Because I have played squier telecasters with regular humbuckers and the tele deluxe with wide range humbuckers and they definitely sound different.
I couldn’t get an oak-grisly in my squirt tele because the body is too thin. Are there any import style switch manufacturers that you recommend? I might just try to source a blank control plate for the squire and drill out a hole for a toggle switch and forget the blade style switches.
I appreciate all the hard work you put in
its been great on this side, when you first announced it I though, wow that's gonna be tough! I would suggest maybe 3 times a week with a cliffhanger on Fridays or Saturdays to look forward to on Mondayish? Love your stuff man.
Thank you for this content. Great display of cheap vrs quality switches.
In my Squier Bullet Strat I ran across an even boxier 5-way import switch w/side-mounted contacts is the most worse I've ever seen; 2 3 & 4 were junk though 1 & 5 worked fairly good compared to the others. I briefly put a normal 5-way switch in but I forgot one thing after realizing it: the switch didn't fit properly let alone work well in a thinner body unless I route a little chunk of wood for it to fit in the control cavity which I'll eventually do after measuring the height of both switches to determine the proper measurement so I eventually went with one of those inline printed 5 way switches for the time being.
The only MUST replace on cheap guitars is the jack. Switches and pots? Only if they're not working.
Hi, Dylan..would like to ask you whether the oak switch may fit into the Ibanez S series? Thx u
HI Dylan, Have you ever deal with Schaller megaswitches? Why the make all pickups on at the same time?
i have just bought a schaller megaswitch E (made in germany) because it gives me the HSS strat switching options i want without an extra switch or a push-pull pot (i don't like to fiddle with them while playing). was surprised to see it was a circuit-board switch. hope the german-madeness of it means they have thought of those issues you mentioned and come up with a good construction to overcome them.
? Do you have a video showing how to hook up that Oak Grigsby switch? Thank you.
Your stuff is very very informative. Thanks
When I redo the electronics in a guitar I replace the box switch to one like you use. Don’t care to much for the ones with the spring in them either.
Hey Dylan how can I solve the problem of a Telecaster that has a humbucker in the neck and a single coil bridge with 250k pots? If I go to 500k how will that affect tone on the bridge? My humbucker is so dark right now.
You could add a shunt resistor to make the bridge single coil see 250k while the neck sees 500k
Tom Milley Music so what pot? 500k?
The previous comment was suggesting you keep the 250K pot and add an extra resistor between the humbucker and the 250k pot. The extra resistor would be a 250k, making the humbucker see 500k.
@@christopherfleming6990 That should brighten the signal a bit but would lower the output from the bucker - which may or may not be a good thing
@@scrap_iron_2264 If one changes the pot to 500K but solders a 500K (470K, which may be easier to find, would be close enough) across the single coil, then the single coil will see 250K resistance. This will be easier to understand if instead of thinking in terms of resistance (volts per amp) one thinks of conductivity (amps per volt). A 250K resistor will pass 1 microamp for every 250,000 microvolts (0.25 volts), or 4 microamps per volt. A 500K resistor will pass 2 microamps per volt. If one connects a 500K resistor across the single coil, then 2 microamps per volt will flow through the 500K pot, and another 2 microamps per volt across the added 500K resistor, for a total of four microamps per volt--just like the 250K pot.
Thx Dylan for your time and effort!
That pickup had feelings! How could you?! 😭😭😭
I’ve REALLY enjoyed your daily videos, I’ve learned so much and grown to appreciate you and your business even more!!! Maybe just do MWF to keep a strong rhythm but not so tiresome on you. You ALWAYS can just adhoc another one in or something specific if it comes up outside of MWF?
Hi Dylan is there a correct way of removing the slug poles on humbucker pickups?
maybe you should blur the address out on the back of the scratch plate
YES PLEASE!!!!!
Could you tell why that switch was already failing?
it was fine
It was cutting out in the bridge pickup position really bad.
What do you think about the YM-30 switches?
“I know this looks creepy” 🤣 nailed it
sorry but i disagree that these import switches are junk , they are needed especially if you have the style of guitar that has a shallow body and not much room in. they all pretty much do the same function if it works keep it in and dont mess with it until needed.
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I had to go back and grab the name 'switch craft', thanks again for your knowledge share 😎🎙🎸✅
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Cool to know!
I don't know about the cheap switch. I had one and it lasted over ten years. I understand the better mechanics on the expensive ones, but if you do the math of money over durability I'm not sure it makes sense, I've seen open switches fail in about the same time. Sure, they're more solid, but I'm not sure that gets the other ones "junk" category. As for overheating while soldering you shouldn't overheat anything even if it can handle it. If you use that as a measure... Well, every single PCB on everything is junk.
My experience with the fender switch wasn't that good. The contact went loose in less than a month. Maybe I'm just an unlucky guy, but it wasn't cheap. Never had problem with the import ones tho.
Man that humbucker is nasty looking haha.
I have a Mexican Tele Deluxe from last year, and I love the tone, but I wonder if it’s the same setup?
It would be awesome to continue to do video a day. Understandably life does get in the way. Perhaps a video every other day?
11:14 i've seen them fall off expensive switches as well !
There wasn't a link to a good switch in the description. :(
first comment
You've done tons of vids (I wrote that as "tones" the first time lol). Maybe you could go back and touch on some of those older topics if you think they need updating in any way?
Is there such a thing as a true noiseless switch?
there is no link to the good switches, unless I missed something.
sorry about that. I thought I posted it Here is the switch we used in the video amzn.to/3gGtLTh
Where's the link to the switch?
sorry about that. I thought I posted it Here is the switch we used in the video amzn.to/3gGtLTh
@@DylanTalksTone Thanks. By the way, wanted to ask your thoughts on swapping out the bridge pickup of a P90 guitar with a mini humbucker.
You make me feel bad. I have a Squire Tele bullet and a Squire Strat. With a broken shaft on the top tone pot.
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living the dream
Now I'm gonna crack open my cheap switch selector 😇
Replacing switches for potential durability is like throwing away a liter of fresh milk to replace it with a gallon.
No, because milk expires at the same speed, regardless of bottle size. The correct comparison would be to stocking up food for your storm/bomb shelter: you choose cans and dry products, stuff that will last for years, not fresh produce that will spoil within a week or two.
The whole point is that the switches will expire at different speeds, so you will need to be replace it less often, so fewer gig/studio sessions will be affected by the switch becoming noisy/unreliable.
It’s more like replacing a water pump when you replace a timing belt. You’re under the hood with the engine ripped apart. Why not swap out a cheap part while you’re already under the hood, rather than wait until it fails in 5000 miles, and do it all over again?
The selector switch in this guitar was defective from the factory, and was cutting out in the bridge position, and needed replacement. The only thing I could have saved was the pots, but since I already had the guitar pulled apart, why not just put 500k pots in it?
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i took my squier strat to a guitar tech, and she installed a new pickup switch cause the other one was broken, i have a problem now where my neck pickups stops working and then i jiggle the pickup switch and it works, i opened the guitar to see whats wrong and didnt find anything, and then i come across this video randomly trying to find a solution for my problem, and that pickup switch in the thumbnail on the left is the one she installed for me.. FML
UPDATE, ordered a daddario pickup switch off of amazon, and after seeing the inside of the cheap pickup switch i blew into my pickup switch, wiggled it around fast, and now it doesnt cut out like before, and stay consistent, so probably dust or something was inside breaking the contact
@DylanTalksTone if I make up a batch of my ghost pepper salsa I'll send ya some 😉
YES!!!!!!
PRS SE's use those cheap Alpha 3 way blade switches. They stop functioning on the bridge position almost immediately every time I get a new PRS. I finally started replacing them right away instead of waiting for them to go and I won't sell one in my shop with the stock switch. Pure garbage.
See you tomorrow :)
Do what you can when you can. We’re not going anywhere.
So maybe I need to change my shitty switch mmmmm
Need to put some Diamond tones (pickups) in maybe
See what I did there with the pickup name.
SO then i take it a "free-way switch" which is a pc board switch is junk... i think they are just different, much like radio guys hating surface mounted components compared to hard wire circuits..just one persons opinion.. i have an import strat that has the stock switch and has never given me any issues.. just sayin!
You going to use the original cunife magnets
Unfortunately CuNiFe magnets are pretty much extinct. They are like vacuum tubes, the rest of the world has moved away from the technology decades ago, and only the guitar world clings to them. CuNiFe was difficult to produce, really difficult to machine, and there is only an extremely small market for 70s Fender humbuckers.
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I hope you are not driving.
lol... watch it again
@@DylanTalksTone hahahahahaha, but you are driving on the wrong side of the road 😃, well compared to Down Under 😎
What about 'input jacks' even though they are output Jack's
The pickups have feelings though!
I love my switch craft roller...