though you were being critical, you were only being honest and acknowledging some of the faults in the amazing series, dont feel bad i laughed at you saying akira was ruining gohan a bit.
I definitely felt conflicted over the weekend, but you're right. I won't abandon being critical when I need to be but I'll make more videos dedicated to praising aspects of the series.
Please, just be honest. I watched your previous videos on Gohan and it gave me so much context to Toriyama's mindset about the character. Like genuinely helped me understand my own gradual shift in attitude towards him. I'd hate to think that you wouldn't give the same level of analysis/truth out of fear of being seen as too negative in light of the death of Toriyama
@@brunoactis1104 In the beginning message he says that he did. Also the context was that he's free from his *script,* l assume because the Super Hero movie arc was finally over and Toriyama had been heavily invested in Daima. Leaving Toyotaro free to move the story forward the way he felt it should. This person just trying to create controversy where there is none.
I can understand not wanting to continue forth with the content you deem “Critical” of the current creative direction of Modern Dragon Ball for respect for the creator of the series. I personally wouldn’t want you to feel obligated or pressured into changing the nature of your content, because of certain individuals who will question the very nature of your character or question the validity of your relationship with the series simply because of the climate of situation currently. Your content made me actually get off the unconscious auto pilot I was on with Modern Day Dragon Ball which was consume, buy product, repeat simply because it’s Dragon Ball my favorite anime of all time. You offer a different honest perspective on the state of series, as long as it’s not malicious and disingenuous in nature your content isn’t really a diss to the series regardless nor does it hurt other people’s enjoyment or viewing experience for the series.
I really appreciate this comment. Since I heard the news I felt a somewhat conflicted for a while. I even considered scrapping a video about how I felt Moro could've been written better. But I've decided to just delay the production of that video and focus on making sure there's a balance praise and constructive criticism on my channel. I'm glad my videos have resonated with you, expect a new upload next week! 🔥
@@CAGExplains Yeah, I think you know what do to. This whole situation is just fresh. You have to walk the line for a bit. I think phrasing might be a bit more important for a while. Like you can express critisism in different ways, right. I mean, I don't have to tell you that sarcastic jokes that directly refer to Toriyama are probably not the best idea for the time being. You definitely shouldn't refrain from criticism or frame things in a more positive light than they are, but of course, you can emphasize and focus on positive aspects without compromising your integrity, if you feel like it.
I sincerely think that when a mangaka does exactly what his fans ask him to do then his work becomes bad. DBS is fan fiction. A story made by a fan for fans, therefore a bad story. You should never give fans what they want but what they need. Not to lie, I find the people who comment under this video very cringe. Unable to understand that Toriyama has always portrayed Gohan as a young adult who hates violence and who prefers to spend time with his family rather than doing like his absent father and training every day. I'm glad Toriyama never listened to his fans. Eichiro Oda once said that a good manga is one that does not take into consideration the requests of its fans
@@robotboy765The problem with this is that, when the fans are hoping for a natural conclusion that the author also intends on, and expresses it, forces the author to change it. People don’t just have opinions on where their favorite franchise wants to go. They have expectations, and when an author doesn’t have an idea on how to warp and surpass those expectations… Then what the fuck should they do? One’s imagination is the limit, as they say. While your opinion has some merit, I feel as if it’s really only the “EXACTLY” part that I agree with in full stride, and the rest with a grain of salt. I mostly say this because I’ve been a fan of Sonic, and the amount of fancanons that throw around Scourge, Fleetway, and neo2004 fuckboy pride just agitates me at this point. Also, if a manga has a successor that’s a fan of it, is it automatically bad? Does the existence of multi-generational stories bother you? Authors are a fan of their own stories, I’m pretty sure.
Bro how do you get your editing so immaculate. Like seriously its super nice. Honestly nice Gohan take (Im a Gohan fan but I hate how bro doesn't train). Btw may the goat rest in peace 🕊
as someone who got to where i am because of dragon ball roots no exaggeration, i'm subbed to you because i can truly feel your passion and love for the art
He smiles because he is free, just like when he went ssj2. Honestly Gohan smiling at Cell, like a psycho instead of killing him, is exactly what Gohan is! It's completely the original character again. Cheeky snobby and better than, all these things are also Gohan. They're the expression of the inner Gohan. Let's not forget Gohan is someone who constantly holds back, someone who is seemingly meek and reserved and doesn't like fighting but is also someone extremely prideful, angry and debouch. When he transforms he puts aside the part of himself that seeks to please others and in turn exposes the freedom to cut loose and enjoy himself. Yes it makes perfect sense for him to smile like psycho. That's the smile of someone starved from expressing enjoyment relishing in their new state of freedom.
I know right! He talks very See the passion that he has for the series although He might need some drop off as his edited content is what makes him unique and different from the other people who critique DB
To be fair… he did teach himself Special Beam Cannon off-screen. He just lacks his Fighting Sense/Mentality that’s necessary for Ultimate more than anything else.
May sound selfish of me but I sincerely hope you don't stop being critical of this series People are the most critical of the things they love and we all love something about dragon ball. Just because of the unfortunate circumstances it shouldn't mean that people should suddenly accept his works as flawless masterpieces that can do no wrong. It is perfectly fine to critique one's work out of a place of love, and that's what you do So I hope you don't stop this form of content, you're like my top 2 fave db content creators because of this content (honestly if not for your videos I wouldn't be up to date in any way with super as I would have accepted that people will eat it up regardless of quality and didn't want to be part of that.) At the end of the day it is your decision to make and whatever you decide I hope you feel is truly right. Not related to the above but I've been wanting to say this for a while, I love your music choices for the videos. Whenever I hear a .hack track I get so excited and think "no way, someone else knows that series exists!?"
I really enjoy your view on the dragon ball series. I can understanding loving something but points out the flaws. Keep up with your work man. You are awesome
Personally I believe Gohan had redeemed himself in the Tournament of Power and in the Moro arc. I believe Gohan was done excellently here in my opinion. His character clearly does not have the same battle and martial arts addiction Goku and Vegeta have, and that is perfectly fine; he has always been like this. Despite that, he was still ready to defend his planet and loved ones. They shouldn't have regressed his character in Super Hero; that way the transition to Beast would've been much more justified, given that Gohan already had a pretty good pace in the TOP and Moro arc
@@ThGtKpr Considering all the pallet swap transformations in god, blue, rose, blue evolved, golden freeza, black freeza etc.... I personally think Beast has just the right kind of silly to fit in lmao
Leaving this comment here for the goofy ahhs that will come at you because you're criticizing the story of someone who recently passed just because you like a story or an author doesn't mean you need to dickride them and act like they've never done wrong when it came to writing
“he doesn’t like fighting” argument is completely turnt to dust when basically every single manga panel states him to be one of, if not, _the_ strongest mortal in the universe. what an absolute killing of a character. (edit: coulda just made it so that gohan didn’t enjoy fighting but _that_ was his entire deal, he never took it serious enough; you didn’t need to turn him into a pacifist. the cell saga felt like build up to an amazing character arc for gohan but we all know how that went)
Love this! I personally was never offended by your takes (not someone that feels that way much, really). They can’t get mad at you for havin’ your own ideas, and not having sheep mental, lol. Keep those types of vids coming! Your vids are fire.
Wow thanks! Photoshop, use the magic wand tool to isloate certain colours (very easy with a black and white manga) make them a separate layer than do a colour overlay... maybe someday I'll make tutorials for all the stuff I do lol
Given just how strongly I agree with your tier list, words cannot describe how curious I am to see if the next chapter drops any information or hints at where Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego would stack up and what tier they would be in. Since Toriyama didn't include them in his vision of the story, I have a feeling tier placement for them will be rather flexible and not as concretely defined. Also, the fact that I had to change "Toriyama doesn't" to "Toriyama didn't" just ruined my day.
Hey man, I really like your videos about Gohan. He was my fave character growing up, but your videos have made me realize the….issues with his writing. Therefore, I’ve been thinking about something, and I’ve finally come to a conclusion that’s made me come to peace with this issue. Hear me out. I’ve been a massive Naruto fan since I was a kid, and…..I’ve gained a new insight as to why I like Naruto, the character, so much despite his issues. Naruto feels like what Gohan could have been under better circumstances. Think about it, Naruto, like Gohan, is a dorky, idealistic, insecure, “prodigal son” who has hidden reserves of power. Like Gohan, he awakens his power through extreme emotions, namely rage. Like Gohan, he must combat his inner demons and deal with his father’s legacy. However, Naruto’s execution works so much freaking better than Gohan’s. Does any of this make sense?
Gohan is better than ever now that the writing is competent, and his base personally (ie: when he wears his glasses) is so enjoyable I hope Toyotaro can keep it going
I watched super hero late but from what I heard about beast gohan I originally thought it was bc he snapped like in the cell games but when I actually watched it I was so confused since it was the most random ass pull
Keep up your grindset, regardless of the Goat's passing. Criticism was ok then and its ok now and many years in the future. Not once have you ever been disrespectful of the man's work and most importantly. You never have been disrespectful towards the man himself. Thats something that few people grasp. Critique towards someone's work is not an attack on the creator himself. Never has been. Toriyama had his strengths and flaws as a writer while being damn near perfect as an artist. If we dont critique and try to look at things objectively. Nothing gets done. If art being subjective was an excuse for poor writing choices and artistic design. Everything would be a masterpiece.
I'm looking forward to your future more positive content because I was not a fan of your harsh style and some of the unfortunate comments you said here but you had no idea of knowing Toriyama would be gone so its no big deal
tbh i really like the inclusion of true ultra instinct. it implies that there is still much room for goku to grow while also not nerfing mui. I think mui is still gokus strongest form, even in the gas fight, and that he mastered the form completely, but as stated in the manga in certain situations goku can't just turn of his emotions, especially when he's agitated. the fight with gohan is a friendly spar so it makes sense that he can turn of his emotions to tap into mui more easily than against gas
Honestly this is the best case scenario I'd wanted for Gohan. As my second favorite character in the series. Like I get it, he doesn't have the drive or passion to train for the sake of it like Goku and Vegeta. But the least he could do is keep up his training so he doesn't get caught lacking agian...again and so on. For the sake of his friends and his family which has always been a core motivation as a protector. so him struggling to find motivation was always a weird arc for him to have.
i think i find your critcisms in the earlier video about gohan in the cell arc to be very valid. I never read the moro arc myself, however hearing so many criticism about it make me feel conflicted on bothering to read it myself.
I honestly think that Beas Gohan was the form that Gohan said that he wanted to achieve since the TOP and that it's meant to be the true final form of Ultimate Gohan. If explained better, I feel like it could be a bit better.
I don't think the Super manga is gonna end because of Daima. It's probably gonna be an anime only thing, or may not even count as canon possibly. We don't know enough about Daima yet to say.
Honestly I also hate how they handle Broly in manga, he isn't really a character, he's more like an animal, Pokemon or something like that, he does have some remnants of personality just enough to be remembered for something more than almost spreading and violating Goku and Vegeta's cheeks but that's simply not nearly enough, I guess this is the price for making a characters with literaly infinite power that constantly grows just by BREATHING canon, writing a character like that and then letting him live is a definition of writing yourself into a corner, and it's very hard to get out of this corner without shit ton of retcons or some actually good writing skills, which neither Toyotaro have or Toriyama had (RIP), I doubt Toyotaro will ever do something about Broly, not without killing him or retconning him to suddenly stop growing stronger out of nowhere and doing nothing
The news of his passing is sad, but on the bright side of things, Dragon ball might actually be able to have a good story after a long time with him gone.
Is the issue with Beerus that if he was to easily best Beast Gohan & UI Goku be because the power scaling wouldn't make any sense? But who's to say Beerus doesn't have a transformation/mode of his own?
You do make a great point lol i know Toyotaro had to be type frustrated at Toriyama. All the work he had put into making Gohan a relevant player just for Toriyama to completely undermine it all by nerfing Gohan for the eleventeenth time with the same old tired and worn out "slacking off" concept. It made manga Gohan not make sense anymore lol
It's actually good to be critical of an entertainment you enjoy because it is your voice, concerns, praises, criticisms, etc. There is nothing wrong with it. I waited to watch because when Toriyama passed, I didn't want to outright share my criticisms right away, I felt that is objectively wrong. I've enjoyed the Dragon Ball series, but once the Buu saga came in, it's more of what fight is next and how to top the previous saga. Regarding Gohan? Toriyama DID actually mistreat him whether fans want to admit it or not. If he didn't think Gohan would work as the strongest character or next main protagonist to surpass Goku, why bother having him to be the one to defeat Cell anyway? That Beast Mode isn't just ass pull, it doesn't really sell a lot of fans into believing that he could surpass his own father. That ass pull is going to be very short-lived. You have to slap away everyone's hand from the retcon button when good progress is building up well, should've been done to Toriyama, but I guess he to doesn't believe in letting others write good arcs, regardless of context.
i think gohan should definitely be shown as a pacifist most of the time considering he genuinely dislikes it which makes sense considering its been a traumatic thing for him his entire life
Gohan said himself that he was still training during the super hero arc. He taught himself special beam cannon so he never reverted back to not training after Moro.
Nah that's inconsistent asf how he kept training we he could not even lift piccolo weights up gohan ment he trained to learn a technique not actual training
This isnt redemption this is a disgrace so is super. He has a stupid beast power up that comes from no where not earned and has zero explanation how is that redemption
Yeah, but why do we get hung up on this? I mean people do remember how Master Roshi and so many others with comparitively non-existend powerlevels could fight side by side with Goku and other top tier main-characters against the strongest fighters of a universe. Isn't that like way more implausible. I feel like on a list of "things that don't make sense" beast gohan is not even in the top 20.
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Love that you edited in that beginning message man, RIP Toriyama
It hasn't been an easy week for any Dragon Ball fan. RIP Toriyama.
though you were being critical, you were only being honest and acknowledging some of the faults in the amazing series, dont feel bad i laughed at you saying akira was ruining gohan a bit.
I definitely felt conflicted over the weekend, but you're right. I won't abandon being critical when I need to be but I'll make more videos dedicated to praising aspects of the series.
Please, just be honest. I watched your previous videos on Gohan and it gave me so much context to Toriyama's mindset about the character. Like genuinely helped me understand my own gradual shift in attitude towards him. I'd hate to think that you wouldn't give the same level of analysis/truth out of fear of being seen as too negative in light of the death of Toriyama
A bit?!
you really said ''now that Toyotaru is free from Toriyama''
LMAO, this mad me laugh so hard. Talk about Awkward timing for this video.
He probably wrote and recorded that before Toriyama's passing.
He said he's finally free from Toriyama's *script.* Gtfo missing the context.
@@brunoactis1104 In the beginning message he says that he did. Also the context was that he's free from his *script,* l assume because the Super Hero movie arc was finally over and Toriyama had been heavily invested in Daima. Leaving Toyotaro free to move the story forward the way he felt it should.
This person just trying to create controversy where there is none.
Please don't cancel me bro... 💀
I can understand not wanting to continue forth with the content you deem “Critical” of the current creative direction of Modern Dragon Ball for respect for the creator of the series. I personally wouldn’t want you to feel obligated or pressured into changing the nature of your content, because of certain individuals who will question the very nature of your character or question the validity of your relationship with the series simply because of the climate of situation currently. Your content made me actually get off the unconscious auto pilot I was on with Modern Day Dragon Ball which was consume, buy product, repeat simply because it’s Dragon Ball my favorite anime of all time. You offer a different honest perspective on the state of series, as long as it’s not malicious and disingenuous in nature your content isn’t really a diss to the series regardless nor does it hurt other people’s enjoyment or viewing experience for the series.
Good response here, continue to be an independent thinker.
I really appreciate this comment. Since I heard the news I felt a somewhat conflicted for a while. I even considered scrapping a video about how I felt Moro could've been written better. But I've decided to just delay the production of that video and focus on making sure there's a balance praise and constructive criticism on my channel.
I'm glad my videos have resonated with you, expect a new upload next week! 🔥
@@CAGExplains Yeah, I think you know what do to. This whole situation is just fresh. You have to walk the line for a bit. I think phrasing might be a bit more important for a while. Like you can express critisism in different ways, right. I mean, I don't have to tell you that sarcastic jokes that directly refer to Toriyama are probably not the best idea for the time being. You definitely shouldn't refrain from criticism or frame things in a more positive light than they are, but of course, you can emphasize and focus on positive aspects without compromising your integrity, if you feel like it.
i personally prefer criticisms in a more positive manner but thats just my opinion.
Rest in piece the G O A T
I think this is really a moment of "let Toyotaru cook". Lets wait and see what happens, its too early to tell.
I sincerely think that when a mangaka does exactly what his fans ask him to do then his work becomes bad. DBS is fan fiction. A story made by a fan for fans, therefore a bad story. You should never give fans what they want but what they need. Not to lie, I find the people who comment under this video very cringe. Unable to understand that Toriyama has always portrayed Gohan as a young adult who hates violence and who prefers to spend time with his family rather than doing like his absent father and training every day. I'm glad Toriyama never listened to his fans. Eichiro Oda once said that a good manga is one that does not take into consideration the requests of its fans
@@robotboy765The problem with this is that, when the fans are hoping for a natural conclusion that the author also intends on, and expresses it, forces the author to change it. People don’t just have opinions on where their favorite franchise wants to go. They have expectations, and when an author doesn’t have an idea on how to warp and surpass those expectations…
Then what the fuck should they do?
One’s imagination is the limit, as they say. While your opinion has some merit, I feel as if it’s really only the “EXACTLY” part that I agree with in full stride, and the rest with a grain of salt. I mostly say this because I’ve been a fan of Sonic, and the amount of fancanons that throw around Scourge, Fleetway, and neo2004 fuckboy pride just agitates me at this point.
Also, if a manga has a successor that’s a fan of it, is it automatically bad? Does the existence of multi-generational stories bother you? Authors are a fan of their own stories, I’m pretty sure.
@@robotboy765 Gohan does NOT spent time with his family.
A lot of respect for you for the message at the start. Also really admired the nonchalant yoga pose. Great video as always!
I find it kinda sad that you had to put that disclaimer because people can't differentiate between criticism about the product and about the person
Love your Gohan analysis videos, sucks that people don't seem to get that you can love a series and be critical of it at the same time.
I just find some videos like this i like when theres positivity and the mix and some vidoes i dont okay, but thats just my opinion
Bro how do you get your editing so immaculate. Like seriously its super nice. Honestly nice Gohan take (Im a Gohan fan but I hate how bro doesn't train). Btw may the goat rest in peace 🕊
Thank a lot bro! It took a lot of time and practice. A future video I make might help you out.
love the background of the videos
He does train in the manga
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Then toriyama screws it up lol
@@totalflashaddict he goes in the time chamber before T.O.P. And he was going back and forth with 73
great message at the beginning looking forward to this video all of your videos are amazing
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy them, expect a new video next week! 🔥
as someone who got to where i am because of dragon ball roots no exaggeration, i'm subbed to you because i can truly feel your passion and love for the art
Been waiting on a new video from you, and I’m looking forward to the next one already! Awesome editing as always. 💯
Didn't expect to see you here love your summarizations 🙏
@@tristysstuff6664 he commented on the last video so it does make sense
Appreciate the support bro, new video coming out soon! 🔥
He smiles because he is free, just like when he went ssj2.
Honestly Gohan smiling at Cell, like a psycho instead of killing him, is exactly what Gohan is! It's completely the original character again. Cheeky snobby and better than, all these things are also Gohan. They're the expression of the inner Gohan. Let's not forget Gohan is someone who constantly holds back, someone who is seemingly meek and reserved and doesn't like fighting but is also someone extremely prideful, angry and debouch. When he transforms he puts aside the part of himself that seeks to please others and in turn exposes the freedom to cut loose and enjoy himself.
Yes it makes perfect sense for him to smile like psycho. That's the smile of someone starved from expressing enjoyment relishing in their new state of freedom.
He’s made the mistake of getting cocky twice and fumbling the bag. He knows better by now and hopefully the writers don’t forget
How to get Goku to remember he's your dad:
1. *Become stronger than him*
😂
So i guess Goku still wont remember Gohan then
Goku and Vergil from Devil May Cry
@FounderX9 As much as I want to agree with you, your channel screams degeneracy
Gohan is clapping 🤷@@FounderX9
you were saying? lmafo Goku wasn't even trying@@user-qx1id1dt8x
Bruh just do a podcast so I can listen to you for an hour
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Podcasts are lazy
I know right! He talks very See the passion that he has for the series although He might need some drop off as his edited content is what makes him unique and different from the other people who critique DB
I’m happy that gohans finally using his head, but i hate that it took him this long
To be fair… he did teach himself Special Beam Cannon off-screen.
He just lacks his Fighting Sense/Mentality that’s necessary for Ultimate more than anything else.
0:41 who ever feels this way about Gohan isn’t a fan of his.
May sound selfish of me but I sincerely hope you don't stop being critical of this series
People are the most critical of the things they love and we all love something about dragon ball. Just because of the unfortunate circumstances it shouldn't mean that people should suddenly accept his works as flawless masterpieces that can do no wrong.
It is perfectly fine to critique one's work out of a place of love, and that's what you do
So I hope you don't stop this form of content, you're like my top 2 fave db content creators because of this content (honestly if not for your videos I wouldn't be up to date in any way with super as I would have accepted that people will eat it up regardless of quality and didn't want to be part of that.)
At the end of the day it is your decision to make and whatever you decide I hope you feel is truly right.
Not related to the above but I've been wanting to say this for a while, I love your music choices for the videos. Whenever I hear a .hack track I get so excited and think "no way, someone else knows that series exists!?"
gohan is my favorite character growing up.
I really enjoy your view on the dragon ball series. I can understanding loving something but points out the flaws. Keep up with your work man. You are awesome
Next, The Character Assassination of Yamcha
Seriously this one deserves some recognition.
Personally I believe Gohan had redeemed himself in the Tournament of Power and in the Moro arc. I believe Gohan was done excellently here in my opinion. His character clearly does not have the same battle and martial arts addiction Goku and Vegeta have, and that is perfectly fine; he has always been like this. Despite that, he was still ready to defend his planet and loved ones. They shouldn't have regressed his character in Super Hero; that way the transition to Beast would've been much more justified, given that Gohan already had a pretty good pace in the TOP and Moro arc
Gohan didn't need an asspull transformation for became a good character
@@robotboy765 But he does need one to be a relevant character
@@sammydray5919dude I absolutely agree. Now, I think it could’ve been done better and I think beast looks like shit but
@@ThGtKpr Considering all the pallet swap transformations in god, blue, rose, blue evolved, golden freeza, black freeza etc.... I personally think Beast has just the right kind of silly to fit in lmao
@@sammydray5919his character has been ruined
Leaving this comment here for the goofy ahhs that will come at you because you're criticizing the story of someone who recently passed just because you like a story or an author doesn't mean you need to dickride them and act like they've never done wrong when it came to writing
But the disrespectful comment wasnt right
Character redemption? Nah this is just ONE chapter. Let's see how Toyo uses him later this year.
Love your videos man, your critiques are very valid and your love for the series is clear
I always enjoy your content! Great video as always ☺️
Cmon Gohan, you can become the main protagonist again!
“he doesn’t like fighting” argument is completely turnt to dust when basically every single manga panel states him to be one of, if not, _the_ strongest mortal in the universe. what an absolute killing of a character.
(edit: coulda just made it so that gohan didn’t enjoy fighting but _that_ was his entire deal, he never took it serious enough; you didn’t need to turn him into a pacifist. the cell saga felt like build up to an amazing character arc for gohan but we all know how that went)
Love this! I personally was never offended by your takes (not someone that feels that way much, really). They can’t get mad at you for havin’ your own ideas, and not having sheep mental, lol. Keep those types of vids coming! Your vids are fire.
2:46 Nice recolor you did there man just curious how you pulled it off
Wow thanks! Photoshop, use the magic wand tool to isloate certain colours (very easy with a black and white manga) make them a separate layer than do a colour overlay... maybe someday I'll make tutorials for all the stuff I do lol
Hell yeah another video 🔥
ngl I really love your content editing style especially!
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying my videos.
Expect a new upload next week too! 🔥
@@CAGExplains Let's goooo can't wait!
Given just how strongly I agree with your tier list, words cannot describe how curious I am to see if the next chapter drops any information or hints at where Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego would stack up and what tier they would be in. Since Toriyama didn't include them in his vision of the story, I have a feeling tier placement for them will be rather flexible and not as concretely defined.
Also, the fact that I had to change "Toriyama doesn't" to "Toriyama didn't" just ruined my day.
I think it's pretty safe to safe a lot of End of Z will be changed/tweaked.
This isn't even a story at this point it's just fan-service🤦🏾♂️
As a Gohan fan, a Gohan I truly love is one that has a family life, has a job BUT STILL TRAINS TO PROTECT HIS FAMILY!!! ❤
Gohan is a Saiyan who are warriors thru and thru, it makes sense he should take responsibility for protecting earth
Waiting for the "How Toyotaro RUINED Dragon Ball" video after he starts introducing his fan fic characters.
1:54 Is crazy work, out of context 😭😭
Not the right time to post this vid dawg 😭
Lets hope Toyotaro can live up to his masters legacy.
I really hope the future of DB is focused on Gohan.
I think Toyotaro is about to get that rage boost from loosing his mentor Toriyama and crank out a banger arc ngl. R.I.P to the GOAT tho 🕊️
They also finally gave Gohan a good haircut lmfao
It’s so joever ♻️ we’re so back
Expect a new video next week too! 🔥
Db mfers when gohan is a happy father and actually achieves his dreams😭😭😭😭😭☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️😔😔😔😔😔🥺🥺🥺😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Honestly, I don't feel like Toriyama felt like writing DBS. Daima felt more fun than whatever he was writing on Super, and I don't blame the man.
Hey man, I really like your videos about Gohan. He was my fave character growing up, but your videos have made me realize the….issues with his writing.
Therefore, I’ve been thinking about something, and I’ve finally come to a conclusion that’s made me come to peace with this issue.
Hear me out.
I’ve been a massive Naruto fan since I was a kid, and…..I’ve gained a new insight as to why I like Naruto, the character, so much despite his issues. Naruto feels like what Gohan could have been under better circumstances. Think about it, Naruto, like Gohan, is a dorky, idealistic, insecure, “prodigal son” who has hidden reserves of power. Like Gohan, he awakens his power through extreme emotions, namely rage. Like Gohan, he must combat his inner demons and deal with his father’s legacy. However, Naruto’s execution works so much freaking better than Gohan’s. Does any of this make sense?
Thnx for liking!
Gohan is better than ever now that the writing is competent, and his base personally (ie: when he wears his glasses) is so enjoyable
I hope Toyotaro can keep it going
Being strong doesn’t make you a good written character. Gohan is poorly written. His writing is not even average
@@jaylevi8602 he *was* poorly written
@@PKRockin7ah right. Sitting on his ass for years just to get a little angry. Make a statement. Just to sit on his ass again.
@@PKRockin7he still is. The asspull makes it worse
glasses gohan is trash and what made him trash in the first place why is he even wearing it nerdhan fan😂
0:05 into the video, who is that green character? Is that Cooler? And where did you get that art from? Is this official?
I think ssg goku blocking beast gohans kick looks better
I watched super hero late but from what I heard about beast gohan I originally thought it was bc he snapped like in the cell games but when I actually watched it I was so confused since it was the most random ass pull
regardless of timing, he's correct
Keep up your grindset, regardless of the Goat's passing. Criticism was ok then and its ok now and many years in the future. Not once have you ever been disrespectful of the man's work and most importantly. You never have been disrespectful towards the man himself.
Thats something that few people grasp. Critique towards someone's work is not an attack on the creator himself. Never has been. Toriyama had his strengths and flaws as a writer while being damn near perfect as an artist. If we dont critique and try to look at things objectively. Nothing gets done. If art being subjective was an excuse for poor writing choices and artistic design. Everything would be a masterpiece.
Nice tribute to Toriyama and I did like newest chapter. Gohan vs Goku was an unexpected surprise
0:19 that's not Dragon Ball Super manga xd. It's just a movie's promotional manga, out of the continuity
Wdym out of the continuity?
Toyotaru is fighting to save gohan
'fixed' aka giving him plot armor again.
I'm looking forward to your future more positive content because I was not a fan of your harsh style and some of the unfortunate comments you said here but you had no idea of knowing Toriyama would be gone so its no big deal
4:10 yeah but FR is not canon? Vegeta even said he only heard about the metamoran fusion dance from Trunks.
Love your vids Cage this week has just been so sad- Im eagerly anticipating what Toriyama left us with Daima
tbh i really like the inclusion of true ultra instinct. it implies that there is still much room for goku to grow while also not nerfing mui. I think mui is still gokus strongest form, even in the gas fight, and that he mastered the form completely, but as stated in the manga in certain situations goku can't just turn of his emotions, especially when he's agitated. the fight with gohan is a friendly spar so it makes sense that he can turn of his emotions to tap into mui more easily than against gas
I have to say it even through its overused underrated channel.
Is super hero was two movies with one being for Gohon and the other being for Piccolo that could help beast be less of a ass pull
I just realized that broly is just an introverted version of goku
Honestly this is the best case scenario I'd wanted for Gohan. As my second favorite character in the series.
Like I get it, he doesn't have the drive or passion to train for the sake of it like Goku and Vegeta. But the least he could do is keep up his training so he doesn't get caught lacking agian...again and so on. For the sake of his friends and his family which has always been a core motivation as a protector. so him struggling to find motivation was always a weird arc for him to have.
Isn’t it a little early for such an analysis like this?
Bro this ain’t no Twitter, chill out
Beerus was always portrayed above Belmod in a genuine fight.
I can't wait for you to explain Gohan beast, genuinely curious
i think i find your critcisms in the earlier video about gohan in the cell arc to be very valid. I never read the moro arc myself, however hearing so many criticism about it make me feel conflicted on bothering to read it myself.
aint no way youre telling me that fusion reborn came out BEFORE I WAS BORN????????
i fr did not realize that dragonball is that old.
I honestly think that Beas Gohan was the form that Gohan said that he wanted to achieve since the TOP and that it's meant to be the true final form of Ultimate Gohan. If explained better, I feel like it could be a bit better.
Make that asspull Beast video. So many people on DB Twitter thinks it isn’t an asspull
“THIS IS FOR GOHAN!!!!”
I don't think the Super manga is gonna end because of Daima. It's probably gonna be an anime only thing, or may not even count as canon possibly. We don't know enough about Daima yet to say.
Honestly I also hate how they handle Broly in manga, he isn't really a character, he's more like an animal, Pokemon or something like that, he does have some remnants of personality just enough to be remembered for something more than almost spreading and violating Goku and Vegeta's cheeks but that's simply not nearly enough, I guess this is the price for making a characters with literaly infinite power that constantly grows just by BREATHING canon, writing a character like that and then letting him live is a definition of writing yourself into a corner, and it's very hard to get out of this corner without shit ton of retcons or some actually good writing skills, which neither Toyotaro have or Toriyama had (RIP), I doubt Toyotaro will ever do something about Broly, not without killing him or retconning him to suddenly stop growing stronger out of nowhere and doing nothing
“fixed” 💀
Hopefully he stays like this. I didn't have a problem with him being a scholar or fighter. I just didn't like how he kept changing
The news of his passing is sad, but on the bright side of things, Dragon ball might actually be able to have a good story after a long time with him gone.
Now that this Goku vs Gohan battle,( as well as others), and Superhero Epilogue is done, will you do a follow-up video covering the rest of it?
imo the only way beast can be explained and not be an ass pull if he got it from chichi since his grandpa is the ox king
This guys always got a sponsor damn son
Please don’t give me hope, I hope Gohan keeps on training and becomes more important. Now we just need to see more of Gohan and Goten.
Is the issue with Beerus that if he was to easily best Beast Gohan & UI Goku be because the power scaling wouldn't make any sense? But who's to say Beerus doesn't have a transformation/mode of his own?
If Beerus could transform he would've done so during that GoD battle royale Zeno exhibition match
You do make a great point lol i know Toyotaro had to be type frustrated at Toriyama. All the work he had put into making Gohan a relevant player just for Toriyama to completely undermine it all by nerfing Gohan for the eleventeenth time with the same old tired and worn out "slacking off" concept. It made manga Gohan not make sense anymore lol
Bro is the biggest toriyama hater ever
A Super Tribute
It's actually good to be critical of an entertainment you enjoy because it is your voice, concerns, praises, criticisms, etc. There is nothing wrong with it. I waited to watch because when Toriyama passed, I didn't want to outright share my criticisms right away, I felt that is objectively wrong.
I've enjoyed the Dragon Ball series, but once the Buu saga came in, it's more of what fight is next and how to top the previous saga. Regarding Gohan? Toriyama DID actually mistreat him whether fans want to admit it or not. If he didn't think Gohan would work as the strongest character or next main protagonist to surpass Goku, why bother having him to be the one to defeat Cell anyway? That Beast Mode isn't just ass pull, it doesn't really sell a lot of fans into believing that he could surpass his own father. That ass pull is going to be very short-lived. You have to slap away everyone's hand from the retcon button when good progress is building up well, should've been done to Toriyama, but I guess he to doesn't believe in letting others write good arcs, regardless of context.
Don’t get me wrong I agree with a whole bunch in this video, it’s a good video, but there are a few parts that come off in really poor taste lol.
i think gohan should definitely be shown as a pacifist most of the time considering he genuinely dislikes it which makes sense considering its been a traumatic thing for him his entire life
Gohan should have just stuck with potential unleashed. The form doesn't really have a cap on it.
Yeah i aint holding out hope especially since he should've learned this in the cell saga
please make the video on Beast Gohan
Gohan said himself that he was still training during the super hero arc. He taught himself special beam cannon so he never reverted back to not training after Moro.
Nah that's inconsistent asf how he kept training we he could not even lift piccolo weights up gohan ment he trained to learn a technique not actual training
@@shido_rimru_ training to learn a technique is still training, it’s just not “strength training”
This isnt redemption this is a disgrace so is super. He has a stupid beast power up that comes from no where not earned and has zero explanation how is that redemption
Let me just be nice for a bit... considering the circumstances.
@@CAGExplains😂😂😂 Yeah your last videos might be looked at unfavourably now. Doesnt make them any less right though.
@@CAGExplains Tell me you didn't watch the video, without telling me you didn't watch the video...
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Yeah, but why do we get hung up on this? I mean people do remember how Master Roshi and so many others with comparitively non-existend powerlevels could fight side by side with Goku and other top tier main-characters against the strongest fighters of a universe. Isn't that like way more implausible. I feel like on a list of "things that don't make sense" beast gohan is not even in the top 20.
@@epimetheus8243 Well that's because gohan beast is the newest of toriyamas fuckups. Technically speaking there won't be any of those anymore.
This video aged badly before it was released LMAO love the content still tho bro
Thank you for getting this right
Bro W video but did u like the broly movie