Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 vs CDJ-2000NXS2 - What's actually changed? Head to head comparison
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The DJ world has gone mad over the new CDJ-3000, but has much changed since the former flagship CDJ-2000NXS2? Sami from Pioneer DJ swung by The Ratcave for a head to head comparison between the club standard CDJs, and answering all of Ratzi's burning questions about the new unit!
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i was just checking this out and noticed like four (?!) of my bad company tracks in the playlist ... must be fate🤟♥
Ahh mate, great to see this! Thanks for the comment, and thanks for all the bangers over the years! 🔥
Long live NXS2!!!
Amazing units! Why they lasted so long in the clubs!
If it's 1280x720, then it's not full HD guys, just standard HD. To be 'full HD' it would have to be 1920×1080...
Fair point!
Damn only a 720p, single touch display !😂😂 bruh
@@Alex121sm1 False advertising bruhhhhh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
On 10" display it really is noticible deference.
haha yea thanks for bringing that up for us, definitely wanted to know why its still called a CDJ without the CD slot.
Is it me or does the 3000 look dated already?
@@djmattplay I think its pretty much everyone.
You've probably just seen too much of it over the past week! 😆
GhostRaptor haha - in all seriousness, they look better under this lighting imo
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What?!?! This unit is the future of the past!
very much what Technics have done for the last few decades on the 1200/1210s, they have always looked the same and added extra functions and nobody ever made a fuss, I think you can try and reinvent the wheel but it will always be round (do the same job) people just like a different look now and again, which is what might have been expected.. on the other hand it might be the case that working professional DJs might not like too much of a dramatic change in having a similar look/layout.
confused as to why the pioneer guy doesn't know his own products...?
1 - you CAN change the color of a USB on a NXS2
2 - you CAN change the hot cue bank to record colors on a NXS2
All the pioneer demo guys are mockney sparrers and all they know is what they have been shown in their double glazing salesman inspired training.
Now now guys, let's keep it friendly!
Spot on.
Glad you thought so!
My biggest worry was that Pioneer would go the same way as the Denon and remove/transform the CDJ mode to a semi vinyl mode. It's been done in Rekordbox DJ, and is one of the reasons many of us older DJ's will never use it, and it's also the biggest reason I will never look at the Denon players. I made my decision when the CDJ-1000 came out that after using the CDJ-500/500II/500S for 7 years, the CDJ mode was a lot better and precise way to play, certainly when like me setting cue points on the fly.
I use one or another pre set hot cue and memory points, but as I rarely play the same tracks in a set and never in the same order, I always end up setting new cue points on the fly. The old school stuttering CDJ way is still the fastest and most precise way to do it. Nudging back and forth or looking at the wave form doesn't help when it's a vocal part in between beats I wanna set my cue point at, which is a pretty common way for me to mix in the next tack. Vinyl mode for me is just an effect mode I use and leave as any other effect. I really don't know why the CDJ mode is not implemented in the software, when it is a very basic function so many of us stil use and prefer.
Don't get me wrong, I still love playing vinyl now and then, but it is a legacy way to play, and certainly it is when you're not a Scratching DJ, and I'm not. So when talking about that the CD now is legacy, at least let us who entered the digital DJ'ing first, keep the basics how to digitally cue up a track and not only lean on some outdated stone age way to do it.
My NXS2's will live with me for another year before I can spend another £4-5000 on gear. Need to stick to the 5 year plan and as the NXS2's is the end of a model series and the last one with CD-players, I plan to keep them. The day I retire from the pro scene, I will have a pretty nice legacy Pioneer pro gear collection, fully working, all the way back to first CDJ-500's.
Sounds like you should start a Pioneer museum!
@@djkit I might do :) , but then I would have to get my hands on the very first CDJ-300 and the rare DMP-555 that came out in 2002 and could play CDS & mp3's, simultaneously from one player as it had dual outputs. Denon was not first with that implementation in a DJ player :) . It even had a built in sound card and came with DJ software, 5 years before that was introduced in the CDJ-400, and 4 years before the CDJ-1000MK3 could play mp3's.
Can’t compare the 3k to the 2k but I just switched from Denon (5000m) to a pair of 3k’s and I absolutely love them! The Pioneers are at a completely different level. Vere, very well done Pioneer!
Thanks for sharing! Just out of interest, what makes you say that?
The 3000s are just better but still lacking so many features that denon have. Pioneer just have a money making recipe where they give you just enough features to sell units while retaining features for future releases so they're never in danger of actually pioneering anymore. I hope denon start coming out with more professional looking decks so they become a contender at the rave
I have the Denon 5000c. A lot of the “new features “ that are mentioned, Denon had them 6 years ago! Can’t see how anyone could say that these are better than the Denons. Especially for the price point. I originally bought the Denons because of the price. But now, even if money was no object, I’ll still will buy Denon. Pioneer is for those DJ that get caught up with having the “industry standard “
the cdj3000 looks soo big to me compared to the 2000nxs2
1280x720 is standard HD, full HD is regarded as 1920x1080
Thanks for clearing that up.
Conclusion...1500 dollars more for a bigger screen with little to no extra real features. Got it. Im still rocking my xdjs 1000s mk2 with 900nx literally nothing else is needed if you actually dj instead of playing push the button game
Waits for the Denon comments that's sure to come...😂😂😂😂
DENON KIller it baby with SC6000................. new firmware soon coming from them.
I’m Pioneer through and through but I’ll say it, the Denon pisses over this! That won’t matter though as they’ve not got the DJ booth penetration that they need. There we are 😊
@@thet0ve Pretty fair opinion!
He makes a pretty good case for it. I was surprised.
What surprised you Drew?
@@djkit The software interface is vastly improved over previous generations, and includes a number of improvements over Denon's as well. I still think their hardware interface is a bit blinkered, BUT they have improved it and also leveraged all their many buttons to do a lot of advanced stuff. It feels well thought out, despite the legacy interface pieces that they had to work with. It's clear they are advancing their overall UX in a way that will be a real boon to folks who are already advanced users on the hardware, even as some of the big features that Denon touts are absent.
As a Denon fan I've definitely been watching this rollout with a bit of side eye, but this walkthrough really shows that Pioneer is playing to its own strengths while also moving forward in pretty big ways. They've given folks already invested in the CDJ ecosystem a lot of reasons to stick with it.
My question is who's gonna do the teardown and see if there's a wifi chip in there?? It makes some sense that teardowns generally haven't been a thing in media players but I think it's time now that they're putting full computer systems inside, and with all the upgradability that implies.
@@drewbeck1000 That would be very cheeky!
Wooooooooooow nice 🤣 all the same belive me since cdj2000
Denon sc6000 is better,but the pioneer software is better ijs!!
CD 💿 old school ?
Kid making me real old lol
Hahaha!
A lot has changed considerably no CD slot drive, what do you operate with I don't understand that part.
SD card, USB, or plug the CDJs into your laptop to use with rekordbox (Serato to come soon).
I'm keen to buy but don't want to bust 2300 and in a year the 3000NXS comes out. If this is defo the unit for the next 5 years, minus software updates, then ill consider it. Any thoughts? Thanks
We have no guarantee, but that MPU is powerful enough to implement some pretty massive updates!
"The most powerful multi player on the market"!
I don't see the Denons anywhere there
What a bunch of sales pitch BS.
Were are the denon fan boys brilliant bit of kit designed to be the future proof for the DJ booth.
Actually you just sounded like a Pioneer fanboy 🤷♂️... "brilliant kit, future proof"... I beg to differ.
@They Caged Non We're all a little confused here..
Sorry where are
GhostRaptor nope not a pioneer fan boy Traktor fan boy
They Caged Non play on them first and do a pro and cons list I nearly bought a prime four because it ticks the box but when I used it I did not feel comfortable
Full HD is 1080p..not 720p
Fair point!
Shouldve prepared the answer at 9:30 better. It lacked substance. Sounded like on the fly BS.
All of our videos are on the fly, never scripted.
few new improvements, few downsides like there is no more real CDJ (no cd disc slot) or 1 knob instead of 2 as nxs2 has (touch/breake and release/start) its kind of joke that I need to go into the menus to swap it using CDJ-3000?! Pioneer WTF?! XD Personally I'd rather like to touch buttons instead of touch the screen most of the time (I mean there is no more rekordbox/usb/link/sd buttons). There is no doubt that the jog wheel is way smoother in the new CDJ but why NXS2 Jog Adjust knob been set halfway to HEAVY instead of plain LIGHT as CDJ-3000? It makes difference guys :P
6 decks with dj pro link? Hmm I would like to see anyone who utilizes more than 4 :P
Upgrade? hmm.. no thank you I'll stay with NXS2 :)
Fair points. the NXS2 is a great CDJ, hence why it lasted so long in the clubs thus far!
3 x SC6000 + DJM V10 = 6 channels
Fair point!
PRICE
There is £210 difference between the 3000 and the 2000-NXS2, that's not bad going for all the new features don't you think?
I'm sticking with the 2000's!!! None of this will enhance my performance! Besides, the 2000's feel tighter than the 3000's. The loop feature feels tighter on the 2000's. Many djs are no longer requesting the 3000's. There have been some issues. touch screen and bigger screen. BIG FUCKING DEAL!!! I don't want to push a button ( Source button ) so i can see other buttons that i need to push. Why hide them?
There's a whole lot more going on in the 3000's processor than the 2000s to be fair, but each to their own! Stick with what you feel comfortable with!
@@djkit I'm sure there is. But how is that going to help my performance? When it comes to the actual DJing part of the machine, what can I do on the 3000 that I can't do on the 2000? There's no game changer on the 3000. There's no advantage on the 3000. It's just more buttons to push. On a 2000 I pop in the USB I hit one button I'm good to go. On a 3000 I have to hit two buttons. It's just a shiny new toy. That's it. Nothing less, and absolutely definitely nothing more.
What a bullshit is the same 96/24 as previous cdj to be honest denon sc6000 has a better sound but the software is not good as pioneer has
Thanks for your comment. Assuming you have the CDJ-2000s?