Fan voting is probably the worst way to do any type of all star roster because it’s all bias and feelings over facts. Fans wanted to vote klay in even during years where he literally didn’t play. The idea of dame being so high up this year even though his play has been mad inconsistent is wild. Both tyrese’s, brunson, trae young, and donovan mitchell have all been better
Man I agree so much! As a jazz fan, I personally can see why Markkanen wouldn’t make it this year based on how LOADED the west is with front court guys. But some of these dudes from like 5-10 in the fan vote is so wrong. I love Wemby, but having him over Lauri makes no sense. Spurs have won -5 games.
Even as a bball fan who loves sga and think he deserves the spot, we all want to watch steph drop 50 at the all star game. All star without steph just doesnt hit the same
Love how Chuck give Myles the recognition. He may not make it in the final roster, but to acknowledge his efforts this season and be mentioned in the conversation, is good enough to build on for next season! 💯
For good or ill, Myles will be judged by the next 9 Pacers games if he cooks without Halliburton. He will get some love. It would be nice to have two Pacers since the game is in Indy.
I don't get how charles wants Myles to be an all star and immediately said no to jarrett allen. Jarrett is a much better defender and the offensive stats are very close (Jarrett shoots almost 15% higher from the field)
@matttim5095 He's literally their best option. They traded away 2 players who were capable of going for 20 and now they only have Randle and Brunson. They both have the same field goal percentage. Brunson shoots WAY better from 3 and gets more assists with less turnovers than Randle. The Knicks need him to be the number one option. If you think Julius Randle averaging 3 turnovers and 5 assists isn't going to carry the Knicks far.
@TheWiIIiamAfton Wrong!!! None of the guys you mentioned are better than Jalen Brunson. This is exactly the reason I said He's underrated. You can't even explain how those guys are better than Brunson. I'm taking Brunson over all those guys you mentioned.
In the past Timberwolves stars like KAT or ANT have had their all star cases diminished by people saying their record isnt good enough, even though theyd have better stats then guys on the top teams that make it. But now that the wolves are the #1 seed the narrative changes? Now theres borderline play-in teams getting 2 all stars while the 1 seed timberwolves should only get one? No consistency
It's disgusting that most people believe the Lakers should have 2 all stars when they're 11th seed and not even in the play-in picture right now. There are teams that deserves to have 2 all stars over the Lakers: clippers, kings, wolves, etc.
Its the all *STAR* game and Brunson isn't a well known star player outside of New York, he's a helluva damn player but all-star games are about putting on a show and Brunson's little midrange shots and floaters aren't very exciting for fans of other teams to watch.
@@bitcoinethereum9702how do you get we’ll know by playing well and making it on the Allstar game y’all want to reduce it to a popularity contest so bad it’s tired
It's wild how KAT is one of the only players to be 50-40-90 in the NBA this season and he was hardly mentioned. Same with DPOY Rudy despite these players being on the #1 seed in the West.
He definitely doesn’t deserve to make it sga doncic jokic kd kawhi lebron davis booker edwards fox curry sabonis George towns markannen harden Ingram zion i just named 18 players as fun ain’t sniffing the all star team 😂
I want to see him but they're gonna have like 2, maybe 3 centers max from the West. Jokic is a lock for starter. Than you have AD, Sabonis and Wemby. I do think Şengün is much better than Wemby and has performed more consistently than AD but the agenda to put Wemby and AD as all-stars might affect Şengün's chances of making it this year. Wemby leads rookies in 4 of the 5 statistical categories and leads the entire league in blocks per game. And AD had a monster stretch at the start of the year and he has been great defensively all year.
@@nisay6148 sabonis clears sengun substantially not much of a debate there. i didnt mention chet holmgrem either. ingram is leading a quality team while sengun is leading a 9th seed. keep in mind i dont even have ingram, zion or markannen or chet making it but they all have a debatable case over sengun. if sengun cant even clear these guys who has no shot at sniffing the all star team.
@@ozzee5094sengun destroyed both of them when they played against each other. Also Sengun is on a winning team and the best player of that team. Both of those guys are not even the best player of their team.
The NBA has the same problem as the NFL in the sense that Allstar selections, like the pro bowl, have gravitated towards being a popularity contest rather than recognizing the league's best players. Doesn't matter how dog turd the player is, if you play for big market teams, you get votes. Case in point Andrew Wiggins a couple of years ago and Klay Thompson this year. I personally think NBA should move the Allstar game towards the end of the season though. Think of it as the last break before playoffs start.
@@rdgpats yeah and the big market teams get all the votes since they have more population and fan support, especially from the international audience, who for some reason only recognize Lakers and Warriors. Not a pretty sight to see in my opinion.
Shaq likes to say yes to everyone and when there are not enough spots, he’ll say I don’t care he should be an all star. Shaq is only here for entertainment. Not his basketball knowledge or four rings. Only saying this as an analyst. He was one of the greatest to play the game.
@@somemale Where is the entertainment though? Has been lacking for couple of years now. He is still pissed Chuck is the number one guy on the show and there is nothing he can do about it.
Is much as I want it. I don’t think it is his year. He doesn’t quite have the stats even as a number 2 and he’s already missed a lot of time. He’s either gonna get snubbed or make it in on an injury replacement.
Sad that the league is so stacked w/ stat sheet stuffers who get in over Jamal, imagine if Jamal was the #1 option on say Charlotte or wherever, he'd average 30 a game easily.
You are correct. I vote for him every day. He is the best PG in the league when it really counts. If not this year then another championship run should solidify his place.
This is exactly why the teams should be 15 instead of 12, there’s still gonna be very deserving guys left off the list. So what if they don’t play, when we talk about an all star nobody cares about what they did in the all star game, it’s the recognition that matters.
For years we were told “Losing teams don’t deserve an all-star, especially having 2 all-stars” until the Wolves are first and the Lakers are 11th…shameless
Sabonis 20/13/8 with 60% from the field and 40% from three on low volume. Fox balling also. Both worthy to be All-Stars, but I'm not sure if the Kings deserve to have 2 of those. They've been worse this year than last year. Offense has really dropped off with only a marginal improvement on defense (they're still below average).
Kings had some stinker games but I believe their record is better than last year at this point of the season. Could be wrong. They were ahead of schedule for sure like a week ago.
@@prxncemv and the record matters why? It's not like they're the 1st seed. They had a +2.6 point differential last year, and only +0.4 this year (barely positive). Last year they had the best offensive rating in the league, this year their offensive rating is #14. They did marginally improve their defense from #25 defensive rating last year to #17 rated defense this year. But overall, they had the #8 net rating in 2022-23, and only #17 this season. The drop off is very significant, going from one of the best teams in the league to below average. I'm not really sure why their offense took such a massive dive, perhaps it's possible they might figure it out in the second half of the season, but right now they're not the same team even though the personnel is largely the same.
this all star tells how talented this season is. Veteran superstars still standing their ground while upcoming young guns are proving their superstar worth.
Brunson went from people saying he was one of the most overpaid dudes in the league to now showing the Knicks might have actually got a bargain for him
Butler is probably the only guy in the NBA that misses half of the season for the past 5 years so that he can have enough energy for the playoffs....while everyone else is tired, he is well rested.
@@Jablickymorant Weird how Jimmy does not get same vitriol from media than for example Kawhi for missing games. Plus Kawhi has already won a couple of chips, so it makes it more weird.
@@mursuka80 For Kawhi, it started with his highly suspicious injury while with the Spurs (and all the PR issues it caused), and since then everyone has doubted the veracity of his injuries, or at least their severity. It was his camp that deliberately publicized the story. This conflict with the Spurs will hit pretty hard on his legacy. Jimmy, for some reasons, misses games during the regular season but neither the Heat nor him are making a big fuss about it. Jimmy is always present in the PO and has led his team to two finals in 4 seasons. Kawhi has been constently hurt in the PO since the Raptors title run. That's the difference. Same issue but clearly not the same background.
I laughed a lot on this video especially on Chuck's facial expression 😂😂 That's what I love about this segment(a combination of serious analyzation & comedy 👏👏👏)
he will get there in time. some of these young guys (haliburton esp) are just now reaching this level of all star status. as much as i hate to agree with him Shaq is right - this is a beauty contest. not always based on skill ALONE. Paolo will have a TV breakout moment (read: not skill wise, he is there already) and then he will be in this type of conversation
Appreciate Chuck giving one of the most up and coming East surprise team’s Center some respect. Myles deserves some credit even though fans don’t know or acknowledge him.
I'm a Laker fan and completely disagree with lebron as #1 vote getter. Fans are ridiculous. I've watched most Lakers games this year. Lebron is stuck in 2nd gear. His age is showing. He picks his spots and times to play hard. Most of the time, he's walking and standing around on the court. He plays no defense unless it's a blind side blk or steal. He's constantly the reason Lakers' defense breaks down. I wouldn't even say he's a starter.
This is my list: West James Jokic Durant Luka Curry -SGA -Wemby -AD -Booker -Ant -Kawhi -Kyrie East Giannis Embiid Tatum Haliburton Lillard -Brunson -Trae -Butler -Brown -Maxey -Bam -Porzingis
jarrett allen is an all star, cavs 10-3 in games since garland and mobley got injured when most thought the season was done, he's stepped up massively.
@@woodlandmac jarrett allen will never get the popularity tho. It's like tyson chandler. But jarrett has already been an all star once so it's possible to get it again.
@@woodlandmac there's tatum giannis embiid bam butler brown randle paolo heck even myles turner so I doubt allen is making it this year over those guys
Trae Young deserves nr.2 in the west 100% he avg 28p 11a on 59%Ts (above league avg 58%). So he is 2nd in assists pg in the nba and 2nd in ppg among guards in the east. Def a top 2 east guard and on top of that top 2 in assist%
To be fair Dejonte is the better player between him and Trae. Trae is just ridiculously ball dominant and requires the ball majority of the time. Murray can play off ball and play with the ball and is a way better defender and a great passer. Trae just a better 3pt shooter lol and maybe a tad bit more clutch as well. I’ll take Dejonte
@@sensei_... Im a casual cause I have a different take? lol be serious man we can agree to disagree! I have my own opinion I know stats may show otherwise but I personally think Murray is a more complete player all around.
I know it was ridiculous when Austin Reeves got in top 10 on the first round of voting but Klay is at no.10 is even more ridiculous in my opinion. I know California has more people than other states but come on people. You do have eyes, don’t you? 😂
Here's what the teams should be as it stands IMO: West starters - Doncic, SGA, LeBron, Durant, Jokic West reserves - Fox, Booker, Curry, Edwards, Kawhi, Davis, Sabonis East starters - Haliburton, Brunson, Tatum, Giannis, Embiid East reserves - Trae, Mitchell, Lillard, Maxey, Banchero, Randle, Adebayo
Fox and Ant wayyyyy too low, Sabonis not being on the list is a fucking war crime, White Brunson and Maxey should be 2-4, and as much as I love Butler he ain’t played enough this season to be number 4. Fan voting is a damn joke and a popularity contest, it’s fucking wild that this stuff is still going on when people that don’t know ball can just throw three players from their favorite team in and knock a better player out.
@@robertlowe6367 Brunson is having a better year than Curry. Better shooting percentages, more assists, and has played 3 more games, and leading his team to a better record. All Star choices are for individual seasons and this year Brunson clears Curry. Curry should not be a starter this year. Should be Luka and Shai. Fan votes are usually ridiculous. East starting guards should be Haliburton and Brunson.
We went from teams scoring like 60 in a whole game to teams winning by 60 now. Obviously new rules and stuff help with scoring more but at the same time I feel like the skill gap between the best teams and the worst just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Bad teams are willing to stay bad just as long as the bank statements look good.
Well, that was the Blazers' 2nd worst loss. They were beaten by 65 in 98. Blowouts like this have always been around. 3 of the 5 biggest blowouts were before 2000. 1972, 1991 and 1998. So it's nothing new.
Every scoring stat shows that on average teams are scoring way more now than they ever did. Trying to claim few games here and there is the same thing as what we are seeing now is borderline insane@@jake8748
Shaq is right. All NBA is for individual play and team record. All Star game is just for individual play. The hawks suck be Trae is averaging 28 and 10 cant argue against that
Meh his 28/10 with abysmal defense on low efficiency he’s really overrated “ice trae” votes. Brunson/maxey would be a much better pick. 28 PPG this year is like scoring 22 PPGs a few years ago. Ain’t great with how many shots he gets up.
@@quandaledinglesrjr8951 your nitpicking and that's not how stats work my guy. And saying 28ppg is like 22ppg like just anybody can average 20ppg is insane. Some guys play 10-15 years and don't even get close to that 😂
@@quandaledinglesrjr8951 Honestly my guy you're not FULLY atuned to what he produces on the court and are nothing but merely just another one of them casuals who like to push the false narraitive of labelling him as overated..you realize he's top 10 in steals? Leads the league in total assists and is top 2 in assists? Top 10 in scoring? And also most recently achieved an NBA league record of consecutive 30pnts and 10 assts games? Also find it funny to factor in the "amount of shots he gets up" as a factor of him undeserving of an allstar when pretty much every leader of a team puts up the majority of the shots lol
@@adriansmith2295 it’s not false I think the league has come to know what Trae Young is. He was literally voted the most overrated player in the NBA last year. That Hawks are still abysmal standing wise cause he is one of the worst defenders in the league. Your the casual since high stats = good. Look at the whole picture.
@@adriansmith2295 Difference is he ain’t efficient, and didn’t make the all-star game last year with similar stats AND a better record as team. Purely your just blind and one of his bandwagon gremlins 💀
This may be dumb to others but for me, if there's NBA All Star game with those rewarded for playing well (sengun, brunson, maxey, wagner etc) and a pickup game featuring kyrie, harden, russ and other famous nba superstars at the same night, i'd go watch the pickup game.
How is Domantas Sabonis not in the top ten for western front court voting. He has more triple doubles than anybody else in the league besides Joker. Put some respect on his name
Based on Shaq’s take, If all star is individual performance based, Cade Cunningham should be an all star. The team isn’t winning, but Cade was on a roll in a 6-7 game span before getting hurt.
Individual performance, based on wins you get. If you are going crazy on a team around .500 or a little below that, you deserve to be an All-Star over someone that is playing good, on the best team, for example Durant, Booker, Lebron, Steph, Sengun, Trae, Scottie > Kat, Zion, Chet, Gobert, Derrick White, Porzingis, Myles, Allen.
If somehow players don’t contribute to winning cause that’s a “team” thing then 4 rings isn’t an argument for how good a player is and Steve nash was a better player than shaq (2 mvps vs 1)
I kind of want to see jokic be the captain. He definitely deserves it being the best player for that last 4 years and lebron doesn't really deserve it. Jokic stat wise, win wise, and just eye test wise is doing better than lebron this year.
He can barely do an ally hoop relax jokic is only there because of his numbers i much rather see ja morant play over him as a fan all star game is about looking good not putting up triple doubles and stats its not like they playing to win a championship is for fun
THIS PLAYER ISNT in ANY LIST: LEADS the LEAGUE in DOUBLE DOUBLES LEADS the LEAGUE in REBOUNDS 7 TRIPLE DOUBLES in the last 12 games. 20 / 20 Triple double 10 games over 70%FG RUNNER UP in the PLAYER OF THE MONTH
the fanbases vary for each team so this isn’t a fair assessment. Lakers & Celtics are gonna get their players in one way to another. but the Timberwolves, Kings, even Orlando, Toronto, can’t get their players in
The celtic and laker players were going to get in regardless of fan base lol. just because the celtics have a big fan base doesn't mean they get players in every year simply because of their fan base lol
Some of those starters in the west shouldn’t be starting if we’re being honest. But we know their fan boy clubs won’t allow that to happen. And winning games should have an effect on the starters
first 8 teams should get 1 all-star spot by default last 4 spots can be from anywhere... although I would still first look at top 2 teams and only in obvious cases elsewhere winning has to be recognized!
one of them is frountcourt , one of them is from backcourt. the comparison is quite silly i think. "i vote Anthony Edwards and Alperen Sengun at the same time"
Julius Randle having the Wizards logo put next to him in this is the closest thing the Wizards are going to have to an all-star this year
Curry shouldnt be in the list at all
@@velipulla3936Lol nice trolling
Wizards can have randle
@@Other_RobotsI hope you don’t call yourself a Knicks fan
@@Cynshamhe's right
Fan voting is probably the worst way to do any type of all star roster because it’s all bias and feelings over facts. Fans wanted to vote klay in even during years where he literally didn’t play. The idea of dame being so high up this year even though his play has been mad inconsistent is wild. Both tyrese’s, brunson, trae young, and donovan mitchell have all been better
Building resumes and legacies to make this era better. Save reason why they ref so bad so everyone gets stats
Yeah, didn't they have Lamelo Ball in the last round of voting even though he's barely played?
Yes
Man I agree so much! As a jazz fan, I personally can see why Markkanen wouldn’t make it this year based on how LOADED the west is with front court guys. But some of these dudes from like 5-10 in the fan vote is so wrong. I love Wemby, but having him over Lauri makes no sense. Spurs have won -5 games.
All star has always been about popularity. That's why there's a difference between All NBA and all star
My favorite laker Devin Booker is 9th! lets GO!
How many chips do booker have?
@@yasssssss772he's making a joke cause the logo was wrong for dbook it showed he was a laker
2:30 My fav wizard Julius Randle at 8, that’s too high damn 😭🙃
dont get so sensitive shaq @@yasssssss772
@swaglord1522You probably should delete this comment since you're wrong 😂
I’m a Steph fan but Shai should definitely start but the all star game is a fans game so I don’t think he will
He Definitely should
Well the people want to see Steph and that’s why he has more votes
Even as a bball fan who loves sga and think he deserves the spot, we all want to watch steph drop 50 at the all star game. All star without steph just doesnt hit the same
@@QMS9224 Facts
Steph is not an all star
Love how Chuck give Myles the recognition. He may not make it in the final roster, but to acknowledge his efforts this season and be mentioned in the conversation, is good enough to build on for next season! 💯
Right. I’m not even a pacers fan and I agree. I don’t think Shaq pays attention to ball like that
Curry shouldnt be there at all
overrated
For good or ill, Myles will be judged by the next 9 Pacers games if he cooks without Halliburton. He will get some love. It would be nice to have two Pacers since the game is in Indy.
I don't get how charles wants Myles to be an all star and immediately said no to jarrett allen. Jarrett is a much better defender and the offensive stats are very close (Jarrett shoots almost 15% higher from the field)
Jalen Brunson is the most underrated player I've ever seen. Dude is a baller and should have more endorsements.
Who’s underrating JB? He’s a certified badass
His foot work is underappreciated
@matttim5095 He's literally their best option. They traded away 2 players who were capable of going for 20 and now they only have Randle and Brunson. They both have the same field goal percentage. Brunson shoots WAY better from 3 and gets more assists with less turnovers than Randle. The Knicks need him to be the number one option. If you think Julius Randle averaging 3 turnovers and 5 assists isn't going to carry the Knicks far.
Especially being a New York Knick. He should be in so many stuff, we should start saying he's overrated.
@TheWiIIiamAfton Wrong!!! None of the guys you mentioned are better than Jalen Brunson. This is exactly the reason I said He's underrated. You can't even explain how those guys are better than Brunson. I'm taking Brunson over all those guys you mentioned.
My boy Sengun almost at 1 mil, LETS GOOOOO!!!!
In the past Timberwolves stars like KAT or ANT have had their all star cases diminished by people saying their record isnt good enough, even though theyd have better stats then guys on the top teams that make it. But now that the wolves are the #1 seed the narrative changes? Now theres borderline play-in teams getting 2 all stars while the 1 seed timberwolves should only get one? No consistency
Their record was just an excuse before. Is because you are a tiny market
Minneapolis isn't a tiny market 🤣 @@youtubehandle102
@@youtubehandle102 they're not though, MN is like the 15th largest
@@youtubehandle102That’s condescending af. The market doesn’t determine how skilled a player is.
Kat is putting up 20/21 ppg in ur opinion would u take him over Paul George or Sabonis
It's disgusting that most people believe the Lakers should have 2 all stars when they're 11th seed and not even in the play-in picture right now. There are teams that deserves to have 2 all stars over the Lakers: clippers, kings, wolves, etc.
LAKERS NATION YDBMF!!
I mean to be fair the lakers are quite literally a two person team
Clippers no
Aaron Gordon should start this year.
@@tokdo4960 true like where are all of the nuggets on this list like fans must be a bunch of casuals for not putting AG or even Murray in there
Thanks Chuck for fighting for Brunson
Its the all *STAR* game and Brunson isn't a well known star player outside of New York, he's a helluva damn player but all-star games are about putting on a show and Brunson's little midrange shots and floaters aren't very exciting for fans of other teams to watch.
@@bitcoinethereum9702 he deserves that spot though
Not as a starter tho
@@bitcoinethereum9702 He's shooting better from 3 than Curry and Trae this year but whatever.
@@bitcoinethereum9702how do you get we’ll know by playing well and making it on the Allstar game y’all want to reduce it to a popularity contest so bad it’s tired
It's wild how KAT is one of the only players to be 50-40-90 in the NBA this season and he was hardly mentioned. Same with DPOY Rudy despite these players being on the #1 seed in the West.
Denver had to deal with that as well last year. Remember their only all star,
Jokic being picked second to last last year?
@@drokhalis3338 that also by him forcing it 😂
@@drokhalis3338 That's because everyone knows Jokic isn't going to try at the all star game haha
All star games are for the fans
No mention of KAT because his team is stacked and they obviously get 1 if not 2. Aaron Gordon has more impact than KAT who gets more touches.
Alperen Şengün should be the 12th player in the West. He definetelly deserves this.
He definitely doesn’t deserve to make it sga doncic jokic kd kawhi lebron davis booker edwards fox curry sabonis George towns markannen harden Ingram zion i just named 18 players as fun ain’t sniffing the all star team 😂
I want to see him but they're gonna have like 2, maybe 3 centers max from the West. Jokic is a lock for starter. Than you have AD, Sabonis and Wemby. I do think Şengün is much better than Wemby and has performed more consistently than AD but the agenda to put Wemby and AD as all-stars might affect Şengün's chances of making it this year. Wemby leads rookies in 4 of the 5 statistical categories and leads the entire league in blocks per game. And AD had a monster stretch at the start of the year and he has been great defensively all year.
@@ozzee5094 ahhh hell nah lil bro said zion ingram markannen and sabonis over sengoat take your meds
@@nisay6148 sabonis clears sengun substantially not much of a debate there. i didnt mention chet holmgrem either. ingram is leading a quality team while sengun is leading a 9th seed. keep in mind i dont even have ingram, zion or markannen or chet making it but they all have a debatable case over sengun. if sengun cant even clear these guys who has no shot at sniffing the all star team.
@@ozzee5094sengun destroyed both of them when they played against each other. Also Sengun is on a winning team and the best player of that team. Both of those guys are not even the best player of their team.
The NBA has the same problem as the NFL in the sense that Allstar selections, like the pro bowl, have gravitated towards being a popularity contest rather than recognizing the league's best players. Doesn't matter how dog turd the player is, if you play for big market teams, you get votes. Case in point Andrew Wiggins a couple of years ago and Klay Thompson this year.
I personally think NBA should move the Allstar game towards the end of the season though. Think of it as the last break before playoffs start.
It will never happen. Players need to market themselves better. Chris Bosh did it Gilbert Arenas too!
There's NO WAY the 10th seed Fakers deserve two all stars. I'd give them none
They need to lower the importance of fan voting, it should be a super small part of what it takes to get all star
@@FSVR54agree or not, lebron is in automatically, same with kd and steph. And ad is getting in just off the strength of LA
@@rdgpats yeah and the big market teams get all the votes since they have more population and fan support, especially from the international audience, who for some reason only recognize Lakers and Warriors.
Not a pretty sight to see in my opinion.
Cmon, Sengun have been balling and deserves it!
Sabonis not even being in top ten is just sad to see smh
20, 13 & 8 hell get in
So overrated
I would put Zion over Sabonis this season.
@@bigp7644he should be in the top 6 of forwards, so nah. Dumb take.
FR, he's arguably top ten in the league but not even in the top ten western conference frontcourt by votes
Trae Young finally seeing some love from the fans. Never thought I’d see the day.
Maxey and Brunson deserve a spot.
Yeah, chuck was spittin fax
"We talk about this every year" (Shaq). Yes, you all do. You all never agree on the criteria to select all star players.
Shaq likes to say yes to everyone and when there are not enough spots, he’ll say I don’t care he should be an all star. Shaq is only here for entertainment. Not his basketball knowledge or four rings. Only saying this as an analyst. He was one of the greatest to play the game.
@@somemale Where is the entertainment though? Has been lacking for couple of years now. He is still pissed Chuck is the number one guy on the show and there is nothing he can do about it.
You mean like most people who watch sports ever?
The Randle disrespect has to stop. They had the Wizards logo next to his name smh
There should also be WAY more new York fans voting for him
Have you seen Devin Booker’s name
@@StupidityAndBeyondGamer Lol They disrespecting him BIG time
LMAO
As a Bay Area native having Klay in there is wild
Curry too for that matter
@@rockysalvatore435 As someone whos had moments hating the warriors, that doesn't make sense.
@@rockysalvatore435 wrong, my dude
Austin Reaves was top 10 in the first returns, most fans are not intelligent
@@lionelgrisbane-ud87Imagine three lakers as all stars with their current dumpster team
Klay Thompson is taking an All Star roster spot from someone who deserves it.
Facts
Facts
Fan votes only contribute to the starters so he won't make the All Star team.
@@thetramp123if Klay has a great stretch of basketball he’s going to be an all star and he would deserve it so I’m pulling for him.
Klay ain’t making it as the west is stacked
SGA should be starting over steph, way better season overall
Yeah but that’s not gonna happen lol with the votes, everyone wants Steph
I actually thinks everyone in that list should start over Steph
@@KHRecruit-rh2tuokay what list are you referring to my guy 💀
Steph is still the better player his team just sucks right now.
@@LeGoat-23Steph is nowhere near a better player than shai right now lmao.
Nikola Jokic should be higher than Lebron, but unfortunately due to popularity, Lebron will be first.
Who cares about what you think
@@jaidenknight2358who cares about what you think
@@alexcastillo6830 find you someone to play with or I’ll pull you
And the low wage worker said
@@jaidenknight2358 go cry to your daddy bron since you care so much
Jamal Murray deserves to be an all-star for sure
Is much as I want it. I don’t think it is his year. He doesn’t quite have the stats even as a number 2 and he’s already missed a lot of time. He’s either gonna get snubbed or make it in on an injury replacement.
Not this year
Sad that the league is so stacked w/ stat sheet stuffers who get in over Jamal, imagine if Jamal was the #1 option on say Charlotte or wherever, he'd average 30 a game easily.
You are correct. I vote for him every day. He is the best PG in the league when it really counts. If not this year then another championship run should solidify his place.
Sorry noone fears him
This is exactly why the teams should be 15 instead of 12, there’s still gonna be very deserving guys left off the list. So what if they don’t play, when we talk about an all star nobody cares about what they did in the all star game, it’s the recognition that matters.
There’s sooo much talent in the league nowadays that’s y the league is loaded
For years we were told “Losing teams don’t deserve an all-star, especially having 2 all-stars” until the Wolves are first and the Lakers are 11th…shameless
Paul George should be a all star he been balling
he will be trust. kawhi as well.
@@jakem4361 I hope so he’s hits like 4 three a game still scores about 23 a game. Most night he’s the clippers best player
Kyrie been ballin , he deserve it
Nope
he pushing 30 we need something new
younger guys are play way better than him
@@Adonnnn Steph been stinky but he’ll be a starter don’t matter
Sabonis 20/13/8 with 60% from the field and 40% from three on low volume. Fox balling also. Both worthy to be All-Stars, but I'm not sure if the Kings deserve to have 2 of those. They've been worse this year than last year. Offense has really dropped off with only a marginal improvement on defense (they're still below average).
Shaq says “NO”… just because Sabonis is white…. If Sabonis was black Shaq will put him ad a starter in the West
Kings had some stinker games but I believe their record is better than last year at this point of the season. Could be wrong. They were ahead of schedule for sure like a week ago.
Both need to be all stars
how can they be worse than last year when there record is better
@@prxncemv and the record matters why? It's not like they're the 1st seed. They had a +2.6 point differential last year, and only +0.4 this year (barely positive). Last year they had the best offensive rating in the league, this year their offensive rating is #14. They did marginally improve their defense from #25 defensive rating last year to #17 rated defense this year. But overall, they had the #8 net rating in 2022-23, and only #17 this season. The drop off is very significant, going from one of the best teams in the league to below average. I'm not really sure why their offense took such a massive dive, perhaps it's possible they might figure it out in the second half of the season, but right now they're not the same team even though the personnel is largely the same.
this all star tells how talented this season is. Veteran superstars still standing their ground while upcoming young guns are proving their superstar worth.
Brunson went from people saying he was one of the most overpaid dudes in the league to now showing the Knicks might have actually got a bargain for him
Alpi must be Allstar
The Booker disrespect gotta stop 🛑
Butler is probably the only guy in the NBA that misses half of the season for the past 5 years so that he can have enough energy for the playoffs....while everyone else is tired, he is well rested.
Do you know how many stars have missed more games than him in the last 5 years.
Not including this unfinished season obv, the four previous seasons(19-20 -> 22-23) he averages 58 games per season or 71% of reg season games
And still loses and disappears the deeper they get in the playoffs
@@Jablickymorant Weird how Jimmy does not get same vitriol from media than for example Kawhi for missing games. Plus Kawhi has already won a couple of chips, so it makes it more weird.
@@mursuka80 For Kawhi, it started with his highly suspicious injury while with the Spurs (and all the PR issues it caused), and since then everyone has doubted the veracity of his injuries, or at least their severity. It was his camp that deliberately publicized the story. This conflict with the Spurs will hit pretty hard on his legacy.
Jimmy, for some reasons, misses games during the regular season but neither the Heat nor him are making a big fuss about it.
Jimmy is always present in the PO and has led his team to two finals in 4 seasons. Kawhi has been constently hurt in the PO since the Raptors title run.
That's the difference. Same issue but clearly not the same background.
“We ain’t giving out no damn Lifetime Achievement Awards!”
-Charles
I laughed a lot on this video especially on Chuck's facial expression 😂😂 That's what I love about this segment(a combination of serious analyzation & comedy 👏👏👏)
Chuck knows that Aaron gordon should start Myles turner should play since it's Indiana. He knows what's good.
Impossible to have no controversial snubs this year. Too many players doing well.
AKA Myles Turner, Aaron Gordan, Sengun. Maybe Julius Randle too.
@@tokdo4960 nuggets needs to have two
A 10th place team shouldn’t get two All Star Spots
LeRIGGED!😂
No team only 2 games over 500 should have two spots. Ex: phoenix suns = Kevin Dusnake
Lebron and Ad got fam service more than sabonis or other guys
I appreciate Kenny giving props to Randle, he's averaging like 25 and 9 and has played every single game, he should absolutely be an all star
no.
So Booker is joining Lakers and Randle will be Wizards after trade deadline?
Spoiler alert
Hints...
you wish lol
Paolo banchero needs more votes
He should be in over the manufactured star with no skill who is allowed to travel and push off on every drive, Yannis
@@FSVR54respectfully , you're crazy brother
Facts he should be an all star
he will get there in time. some of these young guys (haliburton esp) are just now reaching this level of all star status. as much as i hate to agree with him Shaq is right - this is a beauty contest. not always based on skill ALONE. Paolo will have a TV breakout moment (read: not skill wise, he is there already) and then he will be in this type of conversation
@@FSVR54 this sounds loaded asf
Appreciate Chuck giving one of the most up and coming East surprise team’s Center some respect. Myles deserves some credit even though fans don’t know or acknowledge him.
Vote Myles Turner cause Indiana and Aaron Gordon over Lakers.
10 points LEBRON
10 th place Lakers
So What?
So what?
I'm a Laker fan and completely disagree with lebron as #1 vote getter. Fans are ridiculous. I've watched most Lakers games this year. Lebron is stuck in 2nd gear. His age is showing. He picks his spots and times to play hard. Most of the time, he's walking and standing around on the court. He plays no defense unless it's a blind side blk or steal. He's constantly the reason Lakers' defense breaks down. I wouldn't even say he's a starter.
Lebron would be a starter if he was putting up 8 ppg lol 😂 he’ll make it every year till he retires
Its name is "allSTAR" its about STARS lebron is the biggest star even if he made 5ppg this season
This is my list:
West
James
Jokic
Durant
Luka
Curry
-SGA
-Wemby
-AD
-Booker
-Ant
-Kawhi
-Kyrie
East
Giannis
Embiid
Tatum
Haliburton
Lillard
-Brunson
-Trae
-Butler
-Brown
-Maxey
-Bam
-Porzingis
the final list of all-stars should be determined by media and players/coaches, the fan voting should only influence who starts
jarrett allen is an all star, cavs 10-3 in games since garland and mobley got injured when most thought the season was done, he's stepped up massively.
I agree, fans are hella casual
amen
@@woodlandmac fans are not going to vote for the reserves.
@@woodlandmac jarrett allen will never get the popularity tho. It's like tyson chandler. But jarrett has already been an all star once so it's possible to get it again.
@@woodlandmac there's tatum giannis embiid bam butler brown randle paolo heck even myles turner so I doubt allen is making it this year over those guys
That WEstern conference really is hard to choose as its loaded with talent...
Indeed the league has become jack packed FULL of talent, and each and every year MORE and MORE talent appears
Facts and that’s what it’s about, the player not the team. Zion should be a starter and Anthony Edwards.
@@c.w.1925Anthony edwards is not playing better than Luka or shai relax
Sengun is way better than Myles Turner pls stop
Jalen brunson needs to be a all star this time around.
Trae Young deserves nr.2 in the west 100% he avg 28p 11a on 59%Ts (above league avg 58%). So he is 2nd in assists pg in the nba and 2nd in ppg among guards in the east. Def a top 2 east guard and on top of that top 2 in assist%
Facts he's just where he needs to be..top 10 in steals in the league also
If you asked every team in the east to draft all the available guards. Trae wouldn't be drafted in the top 5.
To be fair Dejonte is the better player between him and Trae. Trae is just ridiculously ball dominant and requires the ball majority of the time. Murray can play off ball and play with the ball and is a way better defender and a great passer. Trae just a better 3pt shooter lol and maybe a tad bit more clutch as well. I’ll take Dejonte
@@Kcaye- typical casual. The passing ability of trae and muray or on different levels and so is their scoring. Trae avg more ppg, apg, a/tov, STEALS
@@sensei_... Im a casual cause I have a different take? lol be serious man we can agree to disagree! I have my own opinion I know stats may show otherwise but I personally think Murray is a more complete player all around.
Anthony Edward’s is up there with the best. Bro is leading his team like he should have when he first entered
Don't disrespect my guy sabonis he is more deserving then many of those other west guys
Draymond used to get in because of defense. Rudy is about to win DPOY & is ranked #1 defensively so Rudy better get in!
I know it was ridiculous when Austin Reeves got in top 10 on the first round of voting but Klay is at no.10 is even more ridiculous in my opinion. I know California has more people than other states but come on people. You do have eyes, don’t you? 😂
A lot of those votes are overseas, splash bros always do numbers just of that.
Doesn’t really matter for the reserves. Just something to see every year.
Durant and Lebron are picked based on prestige, not on how they play this year. In a way yes, it’s a popularity contest
Durant is having a great season what are you going on about
What kd is playing very well this year man like wtf
The fans have pretty much always been a reason why dudes get in, wake up and both have the numbers
KD is playing well dummies think otherwise
I hope Devin booker makes the all star. Lakers fans will be so happy
only person i've seen comment about this and i've been scrollingggg😂😂😂 had me dead
I’m saying
fan voting is the worst thing every year, delete it
Sabonis leads the NBA in double - double is not the top ten? WTF?
1st in double doubles 2nd in triple doubles. The disrespect is real
@@L1ut what about tov he lead with tovs to without fox kings not even team
@@mehmetkaba5568 kings 6 games without fox this season. 3 - 3 record. Win over OKC and Jazz
Here's what the teams should be as it stands IMO:
West starters - Doncic, SGA, LeBron, Durant, Jokic
West reserves - Fox, Booker, Curry, Edwards, Kawhi, Davis, Sabonis
East starters - Haliburton, Brunson, Tatum, Giannis, Embiid
East reserves - Trae, Mitchell, Lillard, Maxey, Banchero, Randle, Adebayo
So if a Pelican makes a top 4 seed they don't deserve one all star?
These folks won’t mention Kyrie’s name even if they forced them to smh
The trio in Dallas is nuts. "D-Rizz" Lively, Kyrie, Luka.
The Lakers want Reaves in the all star so bad they changed dbook next to lakers
Probably the last year we’ll see Steph, Lebron, KD, Kawhi, James in an all-star game together
thank goodness
By James you mean Lebron James?
@@AuburnFanSince2010harden
@@k3556io He’s washed.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 lol he's not
Bruh, the Wolves are the number 1 seed for the entire season and no all stars in top 3-4. Wtf
The fact Sabonis isn’t on there is criminal!
Why they take him Becouse of one month he play weell take rebounds he was trash when fox out he do a lot of tov in playoffs just trash
@@mehmetkaba5568lol dude he’s had like 7 triple doubles out of the last 10 games and he’s leading the league in rebounds on a winning team.
@@mehmetkaba5568stick to kebab making. You have no clue about basketball.
Fox and Ant wayyyyy too low, Sabonis not being on the list is a fucking war crime, White Brunson and Maxey should be 2-4, and as much as I love Butler he ain’t played enough this season to be number 4. Fan voting is a damn joke and a popularity contest, it’s fucking wild that this stuff is still going on when people that don’t know ball can just throw three players from their favorite team in and knock a better player out.
I’m glad dude from Houston is getting recognition he’s balling out this year👍
Jalen Brunson his arguably been one of the top three point guards in the League this year.
Brunson is nowhere near Doncic, SGA, Steph, and Haliburton.
@@robertlowe6367 Brunson is having a better year than Curry. Better shooting percentages, more assists, and has played 3 more games, and leading his team to a better record. All Star choices are for individual seasons and this year Brunson clears Curry. Curry should not be a starter this year. Should be Luka and Shai. Fan votes are usually ridiculous.
East starting guards should be Haliburton and Brunson.
@@thetramp123better than Luka,shai,Hali and edwards ? Relax
Julius Randall From the Wizards is my vote 😂
We went from teams scoring like 60 in a whole game to teams winning by 60 now. Obviously new rules and stuff help with scoring more but at the same time I feel like the skill gap between the best teams and the worst just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Bad teams are willing to stay bad just as long as the bank statements look good.
Well, that was the Blazers' 2nd worst loss. They were beaten by 65 in 98. Blowouts like this have always been around. 3 of the 5 biggest blowouts were before 2000. 1972, 1991 and 1998. So it's nothing new.
Every scoring stat shows that on average teams are scoring way more now than they ever did. Trying to claim few games here and there is the same thing as what we are seeing now is borderline insane@@jake8748
Porzingis is all star this season! Defensive monster for Celtics
Irving and Harden over Edwards is a sick joke. Can't defend it. Fox is also laughably low too.
Shaq is right. All NBA is for individual play and team record. All Star game is just for individual play. The hawks suck be Trae is averaging 28 and 10 cant argue against that
Meh his 28/10 with abysmal defense on low efficiency he’s really overrated “ice trae” votes. Brunson/maxey would be a much better pick. 28 PPG this year is like scoring 22 PPGs a few years ago. Ain’t great with how many shots he gets up.
@@quandaledinglesrjr8951 your nitpicking and that's not how stats work my guy. And saying 28ppg is like 22ppg like just anybody can average 20ppg is insane. Some guys play 10-15 years and don't even get close to that 😂
@@quandaledinglesrjr8951 Honestly my guy you're not FULLY atuned to what he produces on the court and are nothing but merely just another one of them casuals who like to push the false narraitive of labelling him as overated..you realize he's top 10 in steals? Leads the league in total assists and is top 2 in assists? Top 10 in scoring? And also most recently achieved an NBA league record of consecutive 30pnts and 10 assts games?
Also find it funny to factor in the "amount of shots he gets up" as a factor of him undeserving of an allstar when pretty much every leader of a team puts up the majority of the shots lol
@@adriansmith2295 it’s not false I think the league has come to know what Trae Young is. He was literally voted the most overrated player in the NBA last year. That Hawks are still abysmal standing wise cause he is one of the worst defenders in the league. Your the casual since high stats = good. Look at the whole picture.
@@adriansmith2295 Difference is he ain’t efficient, and didn’t make the all-star game last year with similar stats AND a better record as team. Purely your just blind and one of his bandwagon gremlins 💀
The league is way too talented in today’s era to only have 12 players on each All-Star team. They should increase it to 15 players each!!
This may be dumb to others but for me, if there's NBA All Star game with those rewarded for playing well (sengun, brunson, maxey, wagner etc) and a pickup game featuring kyrie, harden, russ and other famous nba superstars at the same night, i'd go watch the pickup game.
How is Domantas Sabonis not in the top ten for western front court voting. He has more triple doubles than anybody else in the league besides Joker. Put some respect on his name
Klay Thompson? really?
Based on Shaq’s take, If all star is individual performance based, Cade Cunningham should be an all star. The team isn’t winning, but Cade was on a roll in a 6-7 game span before getting hurt.
Individual performance, based on wins you get. If you are going crazy on a team around .500 or a little below that, you deserve to be an All-Star over someone that is playing good, on the best team, for example Durant, Booker, Lebron, Steph, Sengun, Trae, Scottie > Kat, Zion, Chet, Gobert, Derrick White, Porzingis, Myles, Allen.
If somehow players don’t contribute to winning cause that’s a “team” thing then 4 rings isn’t an argument for how good a player is and Steve nash was a better player than shaq (2 mvps vs 1)
you cant trust SHAQ words...he says that but then says the opposite...
There are players who are winning with better stats than Cade
0 Detroit players guaranteed
I kind of want to see jokic be the captain. He definitely deserves it being the best player for that last 4 years and lebron doesn't really deserve it. Jokic stat wise, win wise, and just eye test wise is doing better than lebron this year.
He can barely do an ally hoop relax jokic is only there because of his numbers i much rather see ja morant play over him as a fan all star game is about looking good not putting up triple doubles and stats its not like they playing to win a championship is for fun
THIS PLAYER ISNT in ANY LIST:
LEADS the LEAGUE in DOUBLE DOUBLES
LEADS the LEAGUE in REBOUNDS
7 TRIPLE DOUBLES in the last 12 games.
20 / 20 Triple double
10 games over 70%FG
RUNNER UP in the PLAYER OF THE MONTH
Chuck at the end "Can we get Jodie Foster..." 😂😂 Man always has to make a joke
Not mentioning kyrie is wild
Word after cooking Edwards then Brunson
@@pervisjohnson3253 ong he’s being guarded by OG he was guarded by Edwards and cooked them both for plus 30 😂two top seeded teams best defenders 🤷🏽♂️
Pelicans should have at least one Allstar💯
Nobody good enough to make it
Would love to see CJ get in. He's having a great year.
@johnway8819 BI and Zion can both easily average 25 plus per game they just have a lot of talented guys and are sacrificing stats to play team ball.
Brunson and Maxey should easily be above Trae rn.
That's crazy. Trae better then both.
lmao
Kyrie and the Mavs are always not considered except for luka. He is a key factor and has been balling. He should be in
He might be. He’s missed some games though.
Kai is in no.5
He might be. But the problem is that it isn't just about being good, it's about competing for limited spots with other guys who are also really good.
WEST
STARTING 5
-STEPH, LUKA, BRON, KD, JOKER
BENCH
-SGA, ANT, KAWHI, AD, TOWNS, FOX AND SABONIS
Kd averaging 30 while shooting a 50/40. Idk why chuck was stuck
And Phoenix sucks
Chuck Will go down in history as kd number 1 hater
when did Devin Booker become a Laker?
Brandon Ingram should def be an all star
1:03 Why does it say that Devin Booker plays for the Lakers?
Later they messed up Julius Randle too
Lol is clutch sports paying the voters too 😂😂😂😂
What clutch sports players are on the list ?
Right
the fanbases vary for each team so this isn’t a fair assessment. Lakers & Celtics are gonna get their players in one way to another. but the Timberwolves, Kings, even Orlando, Toronto, can’t get their players in
The celtic and laker players were going to get in regardless of fan base lol. just because the celtics have a big fan base doesn't mean they get players in every year simply because of their fan base lol
hahahaha Chuck didn't say jackshit about KD lmaooooo love their relationship
SGA is smoking Steph this year. The fam vote is ridiculous
This is an offensive juggernaut season, a lot of names are gonna be scorers.
Some of those starters in the west shouldn’t be starting if we’re being honest. But we know their fan boy clubs won’t allow that to happen. And winning games should have an effect on the starters
Lauri Markkanen has been ballin too don't forget him.
is that the guy from the jazz
@@ImMaleik he plays for the last Vegas aces I think
first 8 teams should get 1 all-star spot by default
last 4 spots can be from anywhere... although I would still first look at top 2 teams and only in obvious cases elsewhere
winning has to be recognized!
@islaptyadadsbooty if that's what you understood... Reading is not easy these days. I should have prepared a meme or short for you. My apologies
Sengun with more votes than edwards is wild shout out Sengun tho
Alpy is Beast
Votes from Turkey
How can they vote w/ their beaks or their talons?@@serge6885
Edwards and Ingram
one of them is frountcourt , one of them is from backcourt. the comparison is quite silly i think. "i vote Anthony Edwards and Alperen Sengun at the same time"
No scottie is craxy
Bro Pippen been outta the league