Fan Zhendong vs Wang Chuqin | MS Final | WTT Star Contender Ljubljana 2023
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The Clash of the Titans. Table tennis at its finest.
i think i disagree. ma long vs fan zhendong in 2017 - 2020 period wouldve been the ultimate clashes between the titans. dont get me wrong, wang chuqin vs fan zhendong is also really good and probably as close a level as anyone can get
@@i-ponics1099 Wang Liqin vs Ma Lin - epic matches in their best period.
@@i-ponics1099🤦♂️
@@i-ponics1099 Ма Лонг- чемпион!😁
Table tennis isn’t a sport. Don’t at me I don’t get notifs
It's insane to have such quick reactions to play like them! Thank you FZD & WCQ for giving us such high caliber game.
They practice it from their earliest years. And they have someone to learn from in their country.
Do you play ping pong yourself?
@@wink1177What is “ping pong”?
@@Rayunicorn1 Have you lived to such an age and don't know what ping-pong is?
This is table tennis.
But playingg forehand like FHZ absolutely exhausting.
Some people think Fan made a lot of unforced errors. The thing they don't realise is Fan played with full power for most shots otherwise Wang would be able to count back. This kind of power shots are not required for most other players so in those matches, you see Fan playing a lot of control games and safer shots even trying out some new serves. More power is more lethal but comes with a smaller margin for error. That's why the error rate appears high.
That's completely true. Ping pong match is a probability game, you have to take risks (but not excessive risks) to trade off safety for attacking quality and the level of risk obviously needs to vary cross different opponents.
Depends on which player (stronger player)safe shot are no longer needed..😅
Seems physically exhausting as well. Seemed like Fan was less aggressive in the sixth after 2 huge games.
Indeed very good analysis.
Yeah one of the reason ML lost to him, his power currently was no match. Everything was returned back. ML game has been converted more towards tactical than just long powerful rallies.
There's no doubt that we'll see these guys at a lot of finals in the future tournaments in the coming years. The gap between the two is obviously very minute right now, which means there will be many close matches as well. This rivalry is just beginning.
I think Fan Zhendong usually won against Wang Chuqin but I agree the gap between these two is narrowing. The way they are competing is like a chess match.
Zhou qihao came close against WCQ
@@rogernguyen1273 also. WCQ is not good at handling Liang jingkun. Liang has a high rate of win to WCQ
Calling it now. Fan zendonkey is not gonna be top 3 in 5 years. Too weak
@@benthekeeshond545 this is because they often compete with each other. In this way, the weaker one perfects his game with the stronger one. I know it from my own backyard:)
Can't believe Wang ACTUALLY made it to this level within such short period of time. Two or three years ago he was just another "promising rising star" of Chinese national team and now he's standing at top of the world. Though Fan got the match this time (a very close one), it's hard to say who would take the next one in upcoming tournaments.
He has a new full time coach since last year who coached ZGK n Wang manyu.
@@evechenisme A good coach is important surely (just like Wang Hao coaching FZD), but Wang's speed of growth is simply stunning.
@fezhximi185
Thanks for your feedback.
Xiao Zhang has been coaching Zhang Jk, Liu Shiwen, Wang MY etc those world champions, until WAN left Xiao then LGL got the plan to develop WCQ.
What a game! Clearly, these two guys are the top two players in the world, head and shoulder above the rest.
Head and belly above the rest!
Did you even watch the match or just this replay? Not impressed. Never seen a pro game where you could say fan only won cause of the 11 net and edge points
@@Abcdef12396so mean😂😂
@@thebawzrittenhouse1433 your boy lost, get over it
@@thebawzrittenhouse1433 stay mad lmao, even though wang chuqin is basically at fan's level fan is world no.1 for a reason
More exciting than alien vs predator. Totally insane!
Holy, I guess these two will definitely take TT to a new level in the coming years. I am always surprised to see comments comparing Chinese players to robots. Come on guys, Fang Zhendong has a phenomenal feeling of the ball, Ma Long has a second to none game IQ. Wang Chuqin can surpass both of them if his health permits. Let's just enjoy their game.
Congratulations to FZD. My favorite player
All my families love FAN too. ❤
I literally got goosebumps Wow !! What a matchhh !!! Wang chuqin came down to 10 11 ! what a final
I wish the camera angle was behind the players instead of at the side of the table.
No player outside china wants to play Wang chuqin now, he's Soo strong I'm sure fan felt it
Fan was so lucky, he got 11 points on net and edge only
Wspaniały mecz - kosmos level👍🏓
Gratulacje Fan - obroniłeś się💪👍
An amazing match! What speeds, what pranks! Wang Chuqin is progressing incredibly fast, and is already a Fan's equal
he has a coach, who LGL specially designate to be Wangs full coach. one on one since last year. the coach used to coach Zhang JK then Wang manyu. now Wang. This is the main reason. This is LGLs plan.
The difference is 2 points. At least in this match.
Amazing match!
omg they are so close now... These 2 are surely going to represent CHN in the next Olympic. Very happy for FZD for the victory.
And now Ma Beat fzd at asian Championshops and Wang Beat fzd at asian Games. Also Wang cq lost to a japanese Player. The decision between two of the three for Singles will be very Close. If they decide who is the best against foreigners, Ma Long should be the one.
Fan made my day .. he deserve the win and he is the best ..
I'm so happy now
Lol did you see the full match. 11 points on edge and net. Deserving, not so much
@@thebawzrittenhouse1433 don't be mad and run away from the truth.. fan is a legend player and the best of all .. this happen alot in the game and yes i watched the full game and it was less number than u mention
Today i saw fan zhendong at the frankfurt airport.
I asked nicely for a picture but he ignored me 😂😢
I was a big fan now i became a person who likes his playstyle😊
These guys are harder than nails 🎉. What a clash of steel ❤❤❤
FZD entered God mode in the 4th and 5th game - unstoppable beast.
WCQ really had an uphill battle because FZD is such a lucky player, so many net and edge points.
And yet, it may be well earned because his shots are always so low and closely bordering the edges.
Also as a lefty WCQ mostly serves and plays to FZD's strong backhand.
Insane fight, thanks to both players
you deliberately refused to acknowledge Wang’s net and edge balls. fairs
Crazy... what a great game !
The new WTT ranking list of week 28 has been published. FAN Zhendong goes up to be World #1, Wang Chuqin goes to #2, Ma Long is #3.
Great final ! CONGRATULATIONS to them.
Amazing match once again! But when do we finally get 60FPS again on such high quality games?
Atleast at the semis and final matches ;)
Fabuleux, et en plus c'est beau! 🥲🥲🥲
Класс! Отличный матч! Фан марку держит!
super super super crazy match, so close, so good
Фан красавчик, хороший теннис 👍
It is a new era in table tennis!
Are these two humans? They have set a high benchmark.. Sad that we have a loser in this match.. Both were deserving winners..
What a match!!! Amazing!!!
Соңына дейін тартысты өтті. Құтты болсын!
It seems to me that Chinese players have a different mental approach. They can control their emotions better, they don't show as much nerves as most European players, who sometimes even throw the paddle. Despite such a tight ending, both players behave calmly and respectfully after the game is over.
Chinese players are much better than most European players.
Former CNT tier 1 player Chen Qi got punished with half a year game suspension and working as a farm labour including pig feeding in a small village, all because he threw his racket after losing a game. The world no.1 WCQ, the player you see in this game, got suspended for around 4 months because of the same reason, throwing rackets after losing to Zhao Zihao in a game.
There is something called team discipline.
@@Kaspersky114a forcing people to work as a farm laborer goes beyond team discipline
@@bogdanpopescu1401 One can chose to quit if he doesn't want to serve tho, no one can force anyone on anything. At the end of the day, that's partially the reason behind inherent success in generations of the CNT.
@@Kaspersky114a no one can force anyone on anything? ...in China?
Excellent show!
Crazy pace. Exciting. I also liked how the referee announced 2:2.
FZD wasn't at his best , which is totally normal since he won the WTTC six weeks ago .. Great mental strength
Crazy class... Amazing...👍👏
These guys have incredible backhands...
those two are from another planet ❤🔥
Fan Zhendong, the Lord of the nets 12:03 😅
Tremendo partido!!
Fantastic
What a match! ❤
樊振东的厉害就在于板板发力，而且还能做到落点准确，这真的是世界级的难度，不过大头打球越来越聪明了，前途无量，谢谢给大家带来这么精彩的比赛！！！
后面那么多教练跟着呢。 王和其他国手打，几个教练都在那里教他。
@@MrCooperscoopers说得好！👍👍👍
@@MrCooperscoopersvery well said
idk what it is, maybe they changed the mics but this tourney brought back some nostalgia for me, hearing that ball CRACK and kinda distort the sound, its like im back in 2010 again ;)
Sensacional 😮
Unreal. It's like this match is sped up 😅. The scorelines were so similar too. Table tennis perfection.
Que jogo senhores!🍷🗿
So good to see that China already has competent and reliable replacements for FZD and Ma Long. Wang is a terror to any opponent any day any time.
WCQ will have later two good competitor Zhou Qihao and Lin Shidong
Мощно!
Both are the Best pingpong players
대단한 경기였네. 판젠동 축하해!
Вот это замес!
Epic❤
Просто фантастика!!!....не хватает ма Лонга
да, он пока в седле, однако время его ушло, увы.
Otra vez fzd demostrando que es el mejor 🏆
Best of the best..
Just… insane 😮
These boys... 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Опять финал,опять Китай.красавцы
Fan backand was key of the match
Totally agree. Fan's backhand is insane, out of this world, a pure jewel, a war weapon, ... 🙂
Crazy match
what a match
Заруба двух монстров настольного тенниса. Невероятный уровень игры 👍
what a challenge. wang deserved but FZD is old wolf :)
so unreal to watch.. crazy
Молодцы китайцы конечно. У Ма и Сюй Синя есть достойная смена + еще молодой Линь Шидун подает надежды.
Wow!
Go Fan gooo the best player in the world 🌎
Но Ваня наступает на пятки)
What a close level ! At the end, Fan must have felt a bit lucky...
Remember that final will be the same next year at Paris ..
Trận đậu quá đẳng cấp giữ 2 tay vợt số 1 thế giới
Like always, FZD making a ton of net balls
geiles Spiel! wow!
Their speed is unbelievable.
So 30 fps is almost unwatchable. Please, make it 60 fps video :(
Haven't watched ping pong for a while, where is Ma Long??
Does he have any chances at the olympics?
How many nets and edges fan zendong ?
神仙打架
They must be aliens. No human can play that quick, with that speed.
The real number 1
After 2-1 down Fan stopped caring too much and played fearlessly. luck favors the brave and he came out victorious. But consistency and power of WCQ is scary. only Fan can beat him right now. great match👏👏👏
LJK also could. That’s why he disappeared from singles. In the past years, the Chinese team tried everything to push WCQ to the top, and that’s where FZD’s low time last year came from. Then LJK. And his more and more radiculous wrong serves ignored by the judging system because Liu Giuliang controls the money of ITTF.
Change the camera angle to the older one..pleaseee
Ya nació alguien que está por superar a estos goats (Ma Kong, Xu xin, Fanzendong) que ya llevaban muchos años en la cima.
Los jóvenes ya están apareciendo
Sí, es un poco aburrido cuando hay un partido y sabes quién va a ganar de antemano. Jóvenes con reflejos y explosividad como Wang Chuqin y otros con creatividad (Alexis o Truls) van a ser los jugadores a batir en unos años. Hoy en día, o eres una máquina como Wang Chuqin o tienes algo que te diferencia de los demás, si no, vas al montón de los jugadores muy buenos pero no excepcionales.
is there a way to watch the full match? without the cuts??
They probably will post the full match in a few days
vpn
In my country the whole live stream is on the UA-cam channel
@@GeneralTerzX which country you are from?
@@AbdulRehman-xx9vj Currently located in Germany. There used to be a commercial broadcaster but since beginning of 2023 I believe all WTT events (also finals) can be streamed on UA-cam for free. I suppose WTT has to grow the market and brand first before they will try again with commercial broadcast
Welcome back to #1 FZD
Retrouver en Finale les actuels numéro 1 et numéro 2 mondiaux ? Normal. Une finale très serrée ? Normal aussi, les 2 joueurs ont un niveau de jeu équivalent désormais, et à mon avis ils se croiseront entre les places 1 et 2 mondiales pendant quelques mois encore...
When did table tennis become competitive?
If you need money to put a 4k 60p resolution so we can see the ball, just tell us.
Fan at 70%, not a single high toss serve, man's training in this final
Even they play insanely fast, matches are not as enjoyable as in the past, remember ML vs ZJK in 2011, and compare this, average rally is around 3 hits now.
katılıyorum abi eskiden kontrol ve spin çok daha önemliydi şimdi killer loop'lar üzerine kurulu robotik bir oyun var. elbette böylesi de çok zevkli böylesi de stratejik olarak büyük derinlik gerektiriyor ama öbür türlüsü daha zevkliydi ya. bunun da sebebi aslında eskisinden bile daha büyük bir çin hegemonyası olmasıydı. eskiden samsonov, waldner, boll, schlager gibi sporcular oyunu kendine has bir tarzla oynuyordu. kendi stilleriyle kendi yorumlarıyla kendi teknikleriyle oyunu baştan yazıyorlardı. hepsi şahsına münhasır bir tarzla oynardı. şimdi çinlilerin robotik oyununu daha çok seyrediyoruz.
@@mehmetmertsarp359 aynen oyle, toplar degisti ondan da olabilir.
Wish to see ma long vs fan again for Olympics 2024
😱😱🤯👍
Fan👍
good game
Could it have been a little closer?!?!?
what a match !!
Gaoyuan trinking a cup of tee Right now
good shakehand from fan
Woow what a match ,deserves every kilobyte that I use 👌👌👏👏👏👏
この2人がいれば、中国チームは盤石そのもの。