Why Vader & Palpatine Stopped Using Ancient Sith Artifacts
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2:36 the strongest sith artifact batman Pyramid
the Dark Knight holocron
Lol I saw that xD
Contains the once powerful Sith lord heart of.....Alfred.
I almost never comment but I just wanted you to know that was so funny lmao
🤣
The later Sith ideal of power was power wielded by ONESELF. Relying on artifacts would be seen as a crutch, an invitation for an apprentice to steal them, and also as potential proof of the sith's continued existence should they fall into jedi hands. Im surprised Bane didnt forbid their creation.
It makes sense too, since the Sith get stronger through succession. I think the closest thing you're allowed to a crutch is having an apprentice as an apprentice.
@@Sernival GOOD POINT! Yeah anything made by a previous master would have to be, at least in their minds, inferior to what they could do themselves.
i care not for disneys new lore -in the book of sith, it is described how sith light saber crystals are constructed via some raw elements and dark side meditation. ~Much like the relics, the crystals were manifestations of THEIR WILL.
So, its actualyl a good thing to MAKE relics, but it would demonstrate weakness to be a mere user.
Bañe himself learned everything he knew from artifacts and spent much time creating artifacts of his own, why would ban them?
If the sith were to be fully destroyed (via rule of 2) artifacts act as a failsafe, a regular individual who is force sensitive may become sith and retain some level of strength compared to those before. Through hundreds of generations there is little concern of the siths complete destruction as another artifact will be uncovered someday.
Bane was interested in the increase in the siths power, he's not unaware of risks towards that path regarding the rule of 2 has.
The Sith under Palpatine did not rule through the Force. They ruled through military might. It is no accident in that one iconic scene, the gathered generals and admirals at Tarkin's table in the Death Star scoff at Vader and regard him as an outdated relic of a bygone era. With Star Destroyers, the Stormtroopers and especially the Death Star, the necessity for the pageantry of the Sith was largely overcome. And even when, after the destruction of the first Death Star, Vader becomes the chief operative on Palpatine's plan to destroy the Rebellion, he does so not because of his role as a Sith Lord, but as the commander of the Imperial war machine. His own flagship - the Executor - was a testament to this: a mobile space station owing little to the first Death Star itself, guarded by swarms of Imperial Star Destroyers and foreboding the coming of the second Death Star.
I mean true but he did plan to rule with the force eventually and he probably would not be able to maintain power without it. The death star is a force weapon the world destroying beam was fueled by kyber crystals which as we know kyber crystals have the force in them, it's pretty much just a massive lightsaber for Palpatine.
Those gathered officers scoff because they've only read about Jedi and Sith in books of fable; Tarkin is the only one of them who has ever seen the powers of either up close, and the hubris of at least one of the officers results in great pain and\or death.
@@calebsargent6902 Except Palpatine didn't intend to "rule through the Force". This is a fan-written recontextualisation that doubles down on too much old EU sources that wanted weird wizard Palpatine to take the center stage over the crooked, frail-looking tyrant with a penchant for making mass murder weapons and use them, and not the Force, to rule the galaxy.
What's even more, the Original Trilogy Palpatine, that was the single most powerful Force-user in the Galaxy but still chose to rule through technological terrors rather than his Force Lightning, is perfectly in line with the actual philosophical differences between the Sith and the Jedi. The Sith hoarded power and knowledge, greedily and jealously. Sith Masters did not willingly surrender or bestow knowledge to their apprentices. Their apprentices had to rip the knowledge out forcefully, so to speak. Palpatine was never meant to be the sponsor of baby Vader and his bumbling band of morons with unhinged personalities and spinning lightsabers. To the Sith, the Force was the ultimate power and a very special gift, so it was not meant for the masses to appreciate or even be terrified by, it was meant to be the tools of a select few. A select two, to be more exact. To the galaxy at large, the Emperor was not the Dark Lord of the Sith, but the frail-looking scary tyrant with a deep voice and a hideous face. It was his will, and the strength of his purpose and vision for the galaxy, that caused some of the most sinister but brilliant minds, like Tarkin and Thrawn, to subscribe so loyally to Palpatine's Empire. And while Motti is made to look like an idiot for disregarding the power of the Force, he is not wrong in his assesment. Even Darth Vader, who makes the specific point of reminding Motti that the Force was also formidable, was a bigger threat at the head of Death Squadron than simply on his own.
Even new canon also pays homage to this notion. The very fact that the new writers decided to put kyber crystals at the heart of the functionality of the Death Star is a genius move. It takes one of the most exotic and ephemeral aspects of Jedi lore - the use of kyber crystals to power their lightsabers, acquired through profoundly spiritual experiences in the planet Ilum - and twists and corrupts it into weapons of mass destruction to be used at the beck and call of a regular joe, like Tarkin, completely divorced from the gifts of the Force.
Yes, because Palpafail had no Attunement to the Force.
Vader hardly had too.
Which weakened both.
The Modern Sith aren't even a shadow of the Ancient Sith, Force wise.
Now, Palpy had immense power in regard to manipulation, but combat/Force Powers wise?
He was nada, compared to the Old Masters.
I mean, having to make your Master SO drunk, he waved in and out comatic state, to be able to kill him?
BAH!
And only because he had no patience, he could not resist that title.
@@Xogroroth666 EU Sidious has no equal in the Sith, absolutely nobody comes close. Vitiate? Pfft. Ritual master, nothing more.
I would totally go for a holocron. Ancient knowledge, and the ability to pass knowledge on.
Wouldn’t Vader’s suit eventually become entwined with his own energies, and ultimately become an artifact itself? We even see Ren develop a fascination with his mask, so I’m surprised we haven’t seen some lore about it. Perhaps there is or will be some lore about Vader’s suit, and I’m just ignorant to it.
IIRC the mask and a glove were the only remnants of the suit that remained partially intact after the death star blew up.
There was also a novel from young jedi knights I think about Vaders glove
He died a jedi and became a Force Ghost hence his dark side soul couldn't taint the remnant of his armor.
@@kanadashyuugo873 I was thinking that too
It eventually would have happened, but Vader became a force ghost before that could've happened, unlike Sith like Momin or Nihilus.
I figured that the more modern Sith would have cast away a most of these artefacts for a few reasons:
1) They were constructed by previous Sith and while records may show them somewhat successful they could not achieve the goals of the current Sith.
2) To dominate the Force and all others, it almost means that they (the Sith) claim their own power to be the Dark Side; and what prideful Sith would want their own power to be aided by one who was weaker than them? The culmination of the Sith is to be greater and stronger that the Sith before, to beholden to the past can obscure their future, and to one such as Palpatine, to exist always as an unstoppable eternal force was his ambition.
3) As explained in the video, age corrodes the artefacts' power, the artefacts aren't at the potential they once were, some stand the test of time but fewer are useful to the modern Sith who value practicality and instant results.
The artefacts were items of personal power. While the Sith in the days of Palpatine had no lack of personal power to go around, the Sith never created their plans to depend upon personal power to succeed. It's a fundamental shift in philosophy. Every duel between a Sith Lord and a Jedi in the prequels is actually a travesty: all the Sith Lord really needed to do was survive, because the ultimate trap for the Jedi was set and by the time Dooku unleashed the Clone Wars, it is already too late.
I somewhat agree the main reason why modern sith abandoned these artifacts was a fundamental change in their philosophy with the rule of 2. The rule of 2 consolidated all of the Sith's previous power and knowledge into 2 individuals so there wasn't a need to search for old artifacts when it was more important to develop something new that could be passed down. However the ancient Sith were constantly competing with each other and trying to gain every advantage they could over their rivals so they would seek out these artifacts of power.
I always liked the idea of alchemy and artifacts in Star Wars. It's cool to see all of these enchanted items and whatnot with different effects and I kinda wish they were more prominent...
Batman Holocron at the right lol 2:35
exar kun Didn't need his artifacts to be powerful he used it to channel his own power to use force blast and some sith magic exar kun was more powerful than nihiluis revan and bane
Not more powerful than Revan. Maybe....MAYBE Bane
@@matthewweise8776 he was above revan since he gained more power than revan in a short amount of time also he vitiate and papaltine reborn were the only sith lords to ever archive formless spiritual cosmic ghost form without the need of a body coil, luke Skywalker compared exar kun with emperor papaltine reborn, luke Skywalker at the time he face exar kun was like 3 times stronger than vader
@@matthewweise8776 boy. Read some books
@@llab3903Not a boy, you must be confused. Now to the point...saber combat Exar could of beaten Revan. In force skills and mastery Revan wins.
@@matthewweise8776 no exar kun for mastered the dark of the force the same way vitiate and papaltine reborn did, he became one with dark side and was more powerful than revan, revan never archive god like hood
What better way to get the attention of the Jedi than to carry around something radiating dark side energy? When the rule of two was invoked and the Sith went into a “cloak & dagger” modus operandus, it would’ve been like wearing an “I’m a Sith Lord” sign. Also, Palpatine was far too arrogant to try achieving his goals using anything other than his own abilities. Say he used the meditation chamber; one could easily say “he’s only powerful because of that relic”. It likely also would’ve been seen as a crutch to Palpatine; something of a handicap that limited him when he was without it. I found the scene in Rebels with him using “magic” to be very out of character for Palpatine. Though the prize he was after was one of nearly limitless power, I never imagined him using something akin to the Witches of Dathomir. Then again, being able to play with time itself could’ve been the key to his immortality. As far as lesser artifacts were concerned, they were just that; lesser. Just my two cents ✌️
I think the problem is more about Star Wars having a fucking time machine than how Palpatine reacted to it. The World Between Worlds was by far the most powerful artifact any sith had ever seen. He grabs that and I don't think even Abeloth could stop him. He did whatever he possibly could to get the stupidly OP prize.
@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 As would nearly anyone; Jedi or Sith. I don’t think “time machine” is quite the right term, but I also don’t see it as an “artifact” either. To me, it’s more like a natural phenomenon; much like the force itself. In all seriousness, Ezra should’ve never gained access to it without his mind or soul being shredded in the process. Same with Ahsoka. Maybe we’ll find out more now that the Ahsoka series seems to be moving ahead. There’s also talk of a crossover with Obi-Wan, which wouldn’t be outside of Filoni’s expertise/predilection. Rebels ended on a bit of a cliffhanger, with Ezra and Thrawn not actually being shown to have died. Plus, Ahsoka already mentioned she was looking for him in The Mandalorian. I like, too, how Ahsoka was pulled forward in time rather than Ezra going back (though we could probably debate that to some degree). Here’s hoping we never get to stop asking questions 🤞😁
I stopped the video at 4 minutes and 24 seconds to take a guess and say that the sith stopped using these because it left them less reliant on seeking out more power for themselves through training and came to the conclusion that it left them stagnant in their quest for attaining as much power as possible themselves not power borrowed through items
I was wrong
But it could've been a possibility as well
Good theory tho! Could very well have been true
@@Thechosen1Gaming thanks man
The reason can be boiled down to 'modern' Banite sith not having any real relation with older varieties of Sith. Their methods and philosophy is totally different, with the main tie remaining being the focus on the darkside.
Quite literally, hiding and cowering in obscurity for a thousand years, waiting for your enemy to weaken so you might be able to kill them, is pretty much the complete opposite of Sith ideals.
Of course the Banite sith, which are effectively a splinter cult, would not want outside influences to cause their own dogma to be questioned.
Palpatine, in particular, never planned to follow actual Sith ideology, not even that of the Banite sith, which is that the whole point of taking an apprentice was for them to surpass you in knowledge and power. Palpatine didn't want that, he wanted to be the 'eternal emperor'. He wanted to live forever and rule over the galaxy forever. Which flies in the face of a core aspect of older sith philosophy: Evolution and change.
Stagnation was looked down on and seen as disgusting, with the light side of the force and 'order' inhibiting evolution of the galaxy. The dark side, and the chaos it represents, served as a tool to force evolution and change. To improve one's self and their vision for the galaxy, afore giving way to stronger forces that followed after them. Sith philosophy can be seen as this: 'Building stronger on the ashes of weaker foundations'
That's also why the old school Sith legitimately had Darths that basically never indulged in random acts of cruelty, the way Palpatine does. Hell, Vectivus was technically Banite, and he pretty much just learned for the sake of learning, while working to stop the powers he had developed awareness of from unnecessarily harming those around him. The one sith lord I'm aware of who died in bed, surrounded by family, in his remote mansion, with a CLEAN CONSCIENCE. His force ghost even tried to teach a valuable life lesson to a jedi, and wasn't even just being malicious in doing so.
I don't consider Palpatine to be Sith. In all seriousness, the legends canon version of Vader, who rewarded competence and harshly punished mistakes, and whose cruelties were almost never just for the sake of the act itself, was far more of a Sith.
I imagine possessing a sith artifact in an age where the Jedi greatly outnumber and unbalance the force would cause a level of anxiety akin to possessing illegal contraband in an era of militant prohibition.
If I were a modern Sith I would definitely have a dark side artifact as long as it doesn’t serve as a homing beacon for the Jedi to locate me.
Wait a minute. If Vader's powers were 1000 times stronger while inside the meditation chamber why couldn't he kill Palpatine from it? Sure Darth Sidious is much stronger than base Vader but a thousand? I doubt Sidious at his prime was even 5 times stronger than Vader so from the chamber he should have been able to crush Palpatine like an egg.
The problem was that while in his chamber, he mostly shut off from everything outside the chamber. Also, at most times, even if vader could kill sidious, he wouldnt have done it.
nope... Sidious was well beyond Vader in many many things...
... simply because Anakins body was beyond destroyed and was mostly machine...
... if Anakin never got destroyed by Mustafar after his fight with Obi-Wan... then he most certainly would have been exponentially far more powerful than Sidious... 💯
2:37 excuse me but is that a fucking bat-holocron on the far right
My daily dose of lore is here
The Bat-Holocron, and next to it the Symbol of Cthulhu-Holocron....... dear God, imagine if Lovecraftian Entities existed in Star Wars. The only one that I know of is Abeloth, but do others exist that weren't originally human?
Look into Star Wars outer rim lore/creatures and you’ll be very happy
@@starfreighterpilot8086 Sweet thanks! I was wondering where to start, much appreciated 👍
Unreliable, costly to the wielder, apt to be stolen or destroyed, and apt to give otherwise compliant underlings ideas. Now, that one artifact at the far right of the screen at 2:36 - it ensured that the wielder always has infinite prep time.
I was like, wait a minute…
Darthbat.
Fr me too
@@Scylon1 Darth Vengance
If you think in evolutionary means, the early Sith needed to acquire and/or create artifacts in order to gain dominance.
After Darth Bain changed the landscape with one action; no trinket was necessary when you only have one other individual coveting your throne.
Great research. Great channel. Thanks!
Crazy how there’s no Jedi sorcerers, but there’s dark versions. I understand why though. They are limited, compared to vast, strange powers of the dark side and how to achieve it would be sinister
Well because the Jedi were more like sages. They had no need to create artefacts since the root of their power was in their own personal connection with the force. The Jedi did make a bunch of holocrons though. Like a *lot* of them, which contained the personalities, teachings, and techniques of uncountable masters going back thousands of years. They were all stored in the temple on Coruscant and were the reason Anakin was so desperate to become a master, as only masters were allowed to use the holocrons that held the highest level, experimental, and sometimes dangerous, teachings of the Force
It’s like being a sith is selling your soul to the devil so you can get magical items and witch powers, being a Jedi is like being holy and pure, very light magic instead of hard magic
I heard that the rule of two line of siths believed in the power that came from within and that Bane believed if you need artifacts to gain more power then you don't deserve it
And yet Darth Bane himself used the holocrons of Darth Revan, Freedon Nadd, Darth Andeddu and others to build his power. And created a holocron of his own.
@@scottboa2738 Holocrons are different they aren't artifacts that artificially gives you powerboost it's knowledge that grow your power it's different
@@Exekort He used the orbalisk armor
@@rohansampat1995 not by choice reread the fist few chapters of the rule of two
Personally, I value knowledge for its own sake and would oppose the destruction or restriction on sith artifacts even as just some citizen of the republic. Knowledge can't hurt you, only people, but it can certainly help you. Of course, that would make me a pretty shit sith.
But, I might not as a sith. Doing so while in hiding incurs a lot of risks, and there's probably a lot fewer artifacts worth having as the Emperor. In hiding, I would first need to research sith artifacts to find one that actually suits my needs and then go find/steal it. Both are going to attract unwanted attention, and the possession of any sith paraphernalia would put me under intense scrutiny. Maybe I might take one if it basically presents itself to me, but it would have to have to be enormously useful to be worth the risk. If I happen to be the sith who finally overthrows the Jedi, that can change things. Anything that just makes me a more powerful combatant doesn't seem worth the effort. That's what giant militaries are for. I think the temple in rebels was a giant superlaser, and if I'm an evil emperor you can bet your ass I'm collecting giant superweapons. That being said, there are probably better things for me to worry about at any given time. What would interest me would be nightsister magick. Nightmother Talzin wasn't naturally force sensitive, but she had a magic(k) sphere that could make her force sensitive in the clone wars {from that episode where she kidnaps Jarjar's girlfriend). Screw growing my own stupid body in a vat like palpatine, my body sucks. Imagine what a sith lord could do with Tech's brain. I said martial power wouldn't be of any substantial use to me, but if I'm going out of my way to build a new body that would be stronger in the force than I already am, why not throw in some extra benefits. Make me a Hutt so I won't have to grow another body for at least 1000 years. After that, maybe I would start studying the sith as a more general study of force powers, but my goals as a sith are still general power increases, not being the perfect duelist.
Makes sense. A huge military did wipe out the Jedi so your points seem valid
Learning from a Sith Holocron for the sake of knowledge is fine but becoming reliant on wielding an artifact is a crutch, equipment can be damaged or even destroyed “I always assumed those Sith Artifacts weren’t Lightsaber resistant”
@@KumaoftheForest lol @ lightsaber resistant......
@@KumaoftheForest Lightsabers can break, and so can bodies. Lackeys can betray you, enemies can outsmart you, things can turn out to be different than you thought. There is risk in everything. The real question is if the risk of the artifact breaking is greater than the risk of not having it. After all, if my opponent beats me with my artifact, how was I going to do better without it?
damn whole ahh essay
Hey star wars bruhs may the force b wit u all
I love the fact that you understood that Vader was always using the meditation chamber. This goes hand in hand with Sidious having shared the knowledge of Revan/Banes holocron and the history of dark side seer that was once Darth Nihlus’ slave who used that specific artifact. This might have been an idea of palpatine to make sure he was able to keep an eye on Vader as this would center him in the darkside more and being a big signal booster is almost a guarantee as there aren’t any significant force wielders openly and blatantly putting their abilities on display as a show and force of power like Vader or the emperor do. It also like seemed to be used to track down force sensitive beings in general while applying the concept of reaching out in the force to feel others specific with that intent. Easily a tool used to continue order 66.
2:39 glad to know Batman was a sith
Fascinating videos like this are why I stay subbed to the channel! And yes I would possess several ancient Sith artifacts
Agreed
Great Video the stupendous but I don't care for Disney Canon and only care for legends.
They totally missed an opportunity with the force awakens to have the star destroyer on Jaku be the one equipped with Vader's meditation chamber. Thus giving Rey a back story for why she's knowledgeable in the force. She could have been receiving training from Anakin not knowing anything about Vader or his grandson. This information having been discovered by Kylo Ren during his interrogation of Rey would have motivated his hate and rage. He'd been trying to reach Vader all these years and the whole time he'd been indulging some scavenger as Anakin. Killing his father, his wreckless wanton rage in attacking Rey in their duel, it all would have been more palpable.
This was very interesting! I pondered this the other day and Im glad deceided to make this.
But did ya tho
@@Naefacesix6six yes
@@LenoxVeleno hmmmmm
Correct me if I'm wrong;
Wasn't Darth Bane's whole ideal that maintaining the sith rulers to a master and an apprentice consolidated the force to the master, strengthening the masters connection?
And if the artifacts were made to give a boost of dark side energy to the weilder but was considered a gift from the dark side, but where no longer used during the later time of the rule of two that would mean that Darth Bane was accurate in his thinking that one to master and one to learn, kept the might of the dark side at its strongest, wouldn't it?
In turn making the need for the "gifts of the dark side, force, not needed, during the later stages of the rule of two?
Thoughts?
2:36 So... Are we ignoring that conclusive proof that Batman was a sith Lord in the top right over there?
Pause at 2min 37 and embrace the power of the Sith Lord batman.
Didn’t Sidious use a dark side artifact under the Jedi temple to help cloud the Jedi from seeing the dark threat upon them? Or am I misunderstanding?
Btw, love your channel , I just subscribed 🙏🏻😎
He didn't necessarily use it himself, the shrine just happened to exist underneath the temple. He and Plagueis did cloud their minds separately through telepathy though.
The Jedi Temple is build ontop of a Sith Temple, wich was a incredible dumb idea. Over time the dark Side leaked upwords, clouding the Jedis abilitys and corrupting them to a small extent. The fact Courouscant is besides the poeple living on it, a dead husk as there is barley any nature left on it, making the force here acually quite weak, didnt help matters. It made it far easier for Sidious too fool the Jedi, but im unsure he was even aware of the Sith Temples existance.
@@neptuneplaneptune3367 sidious visited the sith temples all the time on corusant. Might be legends but he knew and used the temples all the time
@@DavidSmith-ul7vx Maybe after order 66, but it would have been impossible for him to do that beforehand. Prior to the imperial palace getting built, the jedi temple resided directly above the sith shrine.
Nah, just an ancient Sith shrine deep beneath the Jedi temple. The Jedi failed to cleanse it properly and likely just forgot about its existence.
It could also be seen as relying on another sith's power instead of their own
no exar kun had the ability of acknowledge absortion and power absortion every power he got was his and permanent
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 that's a cool ability that I had no idea about
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Exar Kun was a the Goku of the Old Republic before people like Revan and Vitiate pulled up...
I agree, @Wit. Not even Palpatine needed his lightsaber in battle. Just pure force unlimited power! While the last new 3 movies does show Palpatine clone using a lot of artifacts (and lore) to set course the story.
@@blackshogun272 exar kun was considered a greater threat than vitiate in 4000 years by the source, vitiate was hidding at that time
Ah yes the ancient batman trinket. Very powerful indeed.
Didn't Vader also have an artifact built into his glove that made it invincible?
2:37 Ah yes, my favorite holocron type
BATMAN
They probably stopped because they had won (at least in their minds), and were just hunting down remnants that never really gave them a reason to want power-ups. Vader defeated most of the strongest Jedi within a couple years of Order 66.
If I were a sith lord I would have a big collection of artifacts because I’m a collector in real life so it makes sense I would have a collection of sith artifacts as well!
Now to ask the real question: What's the knowledge inside and how to unlock the Batman Holocron?
Scrolled thru comments just to see if someone talked about it. Lol
Never mind dark lord of the sith, he’s the dark knight of the sith.
Now I really want to see Sith ghosts. Not just the Jedi ghosts. But if I remember, if the sith became those force ghosts would they be unstoppable or something? Idk
Due to the nature of the Dark Side, Sith were unable to become at one with the force and thus become true Force Ghosts. They could only remain as ghosts that were tied to objects from their past. In essence, they would only be able to haunt their own artefacts or tombs. That being said, because their own Dark Side energy was so concentrated in these items, they would be able to have a far more profound impact on the physical world through them than a Jedi Force Ghost would. This results in events like Darth Kallig making his tomb into a realm of his own control, being able to kill anyone who entered it if he so desired while the vast majority of attacks from even a master of the Dark Side wouldn’t even phase him
Didn't Vader carry a sith artifact with him at all times? And Sidious put sith alchemy on Vader's suit also.
Kaann was a joke and a terrible Sith leader
Did anyone else notice the Batman Holocron.
So eventually the "Sith" in these Artifacts was like a battery. An would in time run out. Sorta got me wondering if there's any sorta Jedi counterparts an if something empowered into a Sith Artifact can be cleaned an purified in alot the same ways a corrupted, made to bleed Sith Saber can be "healed" into a neutral all white color?
What about that amulet that was in Vader's glove that deflected attacks?
I haven't heard of that, is it from comics or novels?
I think that was in Legends, not Disney canon
@@karsusnetheril8220 Guys, Vader deflects blaster shots from Han with his hands in Empire Strikes Back. I really think Vader is using Tutaminis, the same abillity that lets Yoda deflect Force lightning as we see in episodes II and III
The only sith artifact I will own is the one owned by the smuggler who was arrested by the weapon master jedi and his padawan satile shan when Darth malgus attacked the republic after 300 years of peace. That artifact gives its owner eternal youth and being a proud Ravenclaw thats all the time I need travel the galaxy to discover, learn and collect all the knowledge there is about both sides of the force. I will stay hidden only to acquire all knowledge, learning all force abilities, traveling, discovering light/dark force dominant worlds, meditating on them, creating holocrons, eating delicious foods and living a fulfilling and everlasting life without hurting anyone.
2:35 Ah yes the Batman holocron is a priceless possession.
oh and i almost forgot... of course Sidious was all about using sith artifacts....
(1) The Sith Temple Weapon Vader fought Ahsoka at along with the the Rebel team on Malachor (which in my opinion is the design of Darth Traya)
(2) plus the timeless world between worlds that Sidious DEFINITELY was trying to acclimate into his possession on Lothal... to which he required Ezra's participation in gaining access to such an overpowered weapon... to control time... 💯
yeah... Sidious may have picked and chosen... but he was ALL ABOUT ANCIENT SITH KNOWLEDGE AND ARTIFACTS... 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
wait!!!!!
WAIT A FUKN MINUTE!!!!
2:38
THAT HOLICRON ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT HAS THE BATMAN SYMBOL ON IT!!!
coincidence... i think not...
2:37 batman confirmed to be a sith🤣
2:34 why is batman on here
Shive: collects sith artifacts that he displays openly in his office, gives away information or receives information that even the jedi isnt aware of and very invested in training anakin!
Jedi Council: I allow it!
Good video! The sound seems a tad bit off. I really appreciate your videos.
well i don't know about anyone else... but i would definitely consider the "Sith Wayfinder to Exagul" to be a sith artifact... 💯
no idea if it's a just a current creation within the recent past or made/commissioned by Sidious himself....
... but Exagul certainly looked rather ancient with the Sith Throne and all the "ancient looking" statutes and that type of stuff...
i would like to think that Exagul was chosen by Sidious to be his Final Order home base for more than a few reasons... 💯
Anyone else peep the Batman halo
Palpatine seems like he would value truly having power above getting it from an object. In fact, he totally seems like he would scoff and look down on most but the most unique/powerful of them.
A dark side artifact snob.
For Sith, you would have enough dark side power for the artifact to acknowledge you, because of the rule of two and the rule of one, no Darksider attempted to expand their power lest they be discovered. Sidious hunted down many expanding their power. Only place for new Darksiders to go was beyond the veil. And hope no one found them until too late.
Does anyone know what the background song from 0:01 - 3:43 is?? Thank you in advance
3:21 that's the type 85 computation orb from youjo senki. Nice to see another fan.
I figured that Sidious didn't make any artifacts because he decided to be immortal, so there was no need to create a legacy.
Vader didn't because of self-guilt
Imagine if Darth Maul managed to defeat and kill Obi-Wan on Anakin's Home Planet, instead of losing to him. The Story could be that after Darth Maul kills him, he would find young Luke and train him to be a Sith. Both Maul and Luke over the years would receive Enhanced Force Powers (Force Lighting and Telekinesis) along with Fight Skills. Maul intentions are to challenge Vader and Darth Sidious for control of the Empire and Sith Lord Titles!
If I were a force wielder I’d probably be a Sith not so much because I want to conquer and rule but because I know how I’d use the abilities for my own gain.
Ah, more like a Dark Jedi, like the guy that Darth Zannah initially tried to recruit as her apprentice. He was living it up in Nar Shaddaa, hosting lavish parties. Interested in dark side artifacts only for his own gain.
Jesus is God & He loves you
Jesus will soon be seen by all men, women, and children in the clouds. Jesus is returning now! Believe and be saved.
Exodus 3:14 (God speaking)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 (Jesus speaking)
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10:30 (Jesus speaking)
I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, *The everlasting Father,* The Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:23-
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, *God with us.*
John 1:1 & 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh (Lord Jesus), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 8:24 (Jesus speaking)
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.-
John 14:9 (Jesus speaking)
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Hebrews 1:1-3, & 8 (God calls His Son "O God" because Jesus IS God in the flesh)
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Revelation 1:7
Behold, he cometh with clouds; *and every eye shall see him,* and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Isaiah 44:6 (God speaking)
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 1:8 (Jesus speaking)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, *the Almighty.*
Revelation 22:13 (Jesus speaking)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
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There Are None Righteous / How To Be Saved
Romans 3:10 & 23
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Luke 5:31-32 (Jesus speaking)
31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
1 Peter 3:18 (The word “quicken” means “to make alive”)
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.-
Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Repent of your sins or suffer the consequences. Lord Jesus died in our places personally to take the death punishment that sin deserves and then resurrected by the power of God. Believe this and sincerely repent of your sins each time you sin and you will have eternal life and nothing to fear. Fail to repent and you will end up in the Lake of Fire.
Sith artifacts were also expensive and were good black market items, or at least I imagine they were.
So you're saying that Darth F'n Vader's med-chamber increased his power 1000 fold? If he's that damn powerful in that pod, then why not force choke Sidious from there, or quick neck snap? 1000 times more powerful Vader should have no problems doing whatever the F Vader wants... am I missing something?
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2:36 - look to the holocron at the far right - I was not aware Batman was an ancient Sith Lord. This changes everything. What this means is that Star Wars did not happen "a long time ago" as the propaganda would lead us to believe... but in the future. Which is why their consoles look like 1970's earth computers. The first Sith practitioners came across Earth, humans being long-extinct, reverse-engineered the technology, found an old Batman DVD, and worshiped Batman as the first Sith Lord.
Sorry bro, but I gotta give you a point of correct. Sorzus Syn was talking about a Meditation “Sphere” not a Meditation Chamber. Sith Meditation Spheres were semi-sentient spacecraft, about the size of a starfighter. Vader’s Meditation Chamber definitely wasn’t a Sith Meditation Sphere. In fact, there was no evidence that it was anything more than a sophisticated life support pod that allowed to to remove his helmet while enclosed inside. As for “amplifying a users powers,” Naga Sadow did more than just choke some guy a few miles away on another ship. He used his Meditation Sphere to create illusions of massive Sith armadas and armies across multiple campaigns throughout the galaxy simultaneously. His illusions were apparently so good the Republic was on the brink of collapse until Sadow’s apprentice betrayed him, attacking his Meditation Sphere, and breaking the illusion.
credit due, i don't think before now i ever saw anyone even suggest the meditation chamber was an artifact, on the other hand only one character in star wars as far as I saw ever had one. I just assumed this was something special made for him.
10:10 so I guess Force choking Sidious from across the ship as well as choking his guards who are always watching was outta the question right? Right.
No suprised Sidious startet collecting Ancient Sith Artefacts. I honestly think the guy must have bein pretty bored once the Empire was fully etablished so he needed SOME kind of Hobby. So might as well start collecting stuff and hey maybe figure out how they work. Cant harm and maybe help waste a boring afternoon.
If I were a Sith I would be a collector totally. I’d want that power, the knowledge, and that history to remain within my hands where it’s safe.
Knowledge is power, and if I could recreate these artifacts and rekindle darkside energy within them I totally would. I also probably wouldn’t be following the Rule of 2 philosophies as modern sith do. I require an order- a Sith Order differing from traditional or even modern conceptions.
A new era of the dark side. Something revolutionary, something innovative, something not bound by dogma. The Sith have always waged war on the Jedi. This is never good as it creates an in balance in the force. And thus both sides meet with destruction eventually- and inevitably.
There’s gotta be a way to prevent this and side step the problems of the sith. Yet still hold to dark side teachings.
Which means everything we know and accept to be called into question. Allow my Sith knights to exist alongside the rest of the Galaxy.
Alchemy and artifacts (but mostly alchemy itself) was always reason, why I like dark aspects of force more than light. It just suits me more than light ways. It seems to be working towards something and give chance to do something remarkable, while light seems to be just acceptance and getting bones that force gives them. I know it isn't right description, but it's my feelings about it. They even created artifacts to give normal people chance to be force sensitive. That I call achievement! I would probably wanted to create something, maybe not artifact, but definitely create. It's pretty ironic, that dark side is side of creation.
Personal opinion. Ancient Sith used these Artifacts to house and protect aspects of their spirit. Just about "any" TRUE artifact of the Sith has a rather good chance of possessing the user, Sith, Jedi, or otherwise, and converting them into a resurrected form of the original ancient Lord. As modern Sith have their own agendas and ideas to toy with, become an ancient long dead Lord's pawn ranks very low on their to do list. However, letting someone 'else' find and use them, thus becoming possessed would likewise becomes a problem for said current Sith Lord, via breaking the rule of 2 for starters, thus they tend to hoard and/or bury them in obscure, highly protected places.
Obviously the real reason is George Lucas didn't come up with any of this until WAY later, but I guess the canon reason would just be that they're all WAY weaker now, so they couldn't even if they wanted to, but even if they did, it would be very weak in comparison
I'd totally get as many Sith artifacts as possible, just totally dominate the battlefield. Amulet that boosts raw strength? Hell yeah. Helmet that increases sensitivity and control of the force? Sign me up. Fuck, get me a ring or two that'll increase my resilience, and ability to heal quickly. And throw in something that will let me force quake so hard I can destroy a planet.
If I were Sith,I would use anything to further my power. Also,I would not use a lightsaber,I'd use force imbued beskar swords.
The Force Imbued Weapons are just as strong if not stronger than Beskar swords. Yes there is no true cap for Force Imbued Weapons.
Beskar shmeskar. Ancient Sith warblades were made of an alchemical metal alloy, not beskar. And Force-imbued weapons could resist lightsabres even being fashioned of common materials, like master Vodo's wooden staff.
@@moscanaveia yeah,I know that. It doesn't change my mind.
2:32 Batman holocron
OK has anyone seen the tik tok where they say Harry Potter is a rip off of Star Wars? If you haven't please find it because the parallels are too obvious to ignore. The reason I bring it up is because Voldemort imbues parts of himself in different objects, much like theses artificats were used to create different powers. Jk herself probably read some of these cannons. It's just too weird to see it any other way.
it is not explicitly stated in Star Wars canon why Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine stopped using ancient Sith artifacts. However, it is likely that they saw greater power in their mastery of the Force and the dark side, and saw less need for physical objects to enhance their abilities. Additionally, the artifacts may have been difficult to obtain or maintain, or posed a risk to their rule. Ultimately, their priorities and priorities shifted as they rose to power, and they may have considered these objects unnecessary.
If I were a sith, the artifacts would make a fine addition to my collection. But even if I would be a strong none force user I would still collect them
To me the Sith post Rule of 2 should have invested time and power into finding arcane knowledge and using it to infuse new talisman and other enchanted items. That maybe generation after generation they could not only make more but also continue to charge the ones they already had. The reason is the end game of their quest, that because only two exist they should be as powerful as they can with a wealth of knowledge because they are the minority and always at risk of one or both dying.
Then there is the fact once they are done and the Jedi are through then you would have what amounts to the libraries of Alexandrea for future sith to learn from. That on top of arcane spells and talismans there would also be a recorded history showing those future sith their history, not just of accomplishments but failures to as to teach them how not to make the same mistakes.
That’s how you create a strong Sith.
Sadly while there were some that did try to chronicle the history and try to curate sith knowledge by the time Palpatine took over he wasn’t interested in sharing knowledge (or even keep to the rule of two), he was only interested in himself and finding a way to live forever, not by sith magic or knowledge but Cloning.
I think another reason they didn't make more is because they simply couldn't (or at least many they couldn't). I would not be surprised if a lot of these artifacts required a great understanding of their nature in order to create them. In the ancient Sith, this understanding was gained over a long time advancement, and since their culture was more stable than Sith of other times, this knowledge could be built upon. When the Sith destabilized by only caring about themselves, taking from others was seen as better then creating them as it was faster. Thus theywould have no desire to want to preserve the knowledge of how to make them. Over the thousands of years of this line of thought, most of the knowledge of how to create these artifacts would have been lost.
There was two Sith artifacts that survived for centuries, even through multiple wars, distractions, and re-formations of the Sith order, and these two items were the holocrine of Darth, and do, and the more talisman constructed by the entrance Sith Lord cornice more who was one of the original 12 dark Jedi during the first great schism that involved the 100 year darkness
I would have hunted down everything i could, and collect them in far to reach places. I would seek to create my own. The issue is that anything combined creates its own power. The Sith Artifacts is war items, in war use every advantage you can. this is not weakness but strength. this is why the lightside wins final battles.
I think another big reason why Darth Sidius didn’t use them or create any is because as a politician… I think he had no time.
His schedule was probably almost always packed. Hard to study and create stuff that takes time when you have no time.
Wasn’t vaders glove a dark side artefact? That’s why he was able to blokes Hans blaster blots with his hand in episode five? And didn’t it even survive luke burning Anakin’s body?
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Online game it old republic era if play scoerecer aka the 1 with froce lighting powers u able be doing Ancient Sith Artifacts things
Lol, I wonder if the folks at Lucas, ever read these comment sections, looking to farm ideas on future lore? They’d probably be better served if they did.
Modern Sith were fools and Rule of Two caused the extinction of the Sith. As current cannon shows Bane killed the Sith, ruined an gone because of his foolish philosophy.
Blah Blah Blah, this is what happens when you let Harry Potter/Dungeon and Dragon types write Star Wars fan fiction. Please stop.
Anyone notice the bat symbol on one of the artifacts around 2:30
by the gods PLEASE tell me the name of this amazing soundtrack in the backround
Because they weren't thought of till 20 years later? They weren't even Sith till 1999 😅
Regardless of intention, just the act of bleeding a kybercrystal would turn a lightsaber into some sort of an artifact, in the way that the lightsaber would bolster their strength in the darkside and weaken jedi who posess it. Stronger jedi would be able to resist it, but they would in some way still be affected.
Bevel Lemelisk’s clones the the Emperor used to transfer his essence into a new body each time the emperor had him killed, Darksaber novel, Callista as well.
Hey I know this is an odd request but is there any possible way you can post up the background music links? I liked the background music you used though it was subtle.
This video is great, and the discussion in the comments is varied and fun, but nobody is talking about the Batman Holocron at 2:36? Mf gonna impart some ancient fist wisdom