I like how he just casually skipped over the new special stages that the encore mode offers which is more challenging compared to the main Mania mode and also ignores the checkpoint bonus game that's way more fun that the blue spheres.
Yeah, like they never promised a whole new game, what would you expect from a $5 DLC? It surpassed my expectations atleast. $5 is worth it imo. Seems like an overreaction to be honest, but it’s his opinion.
22:34 I don’t understand what this line means. She only was a damsel in distress 2 or more times. CD and SA1 comes to mind, and Riders too. And the only other times she was a “damsel in distress” was when Sonic’s world or timeline was in danger. Sonic Prime, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Generations comes to mind. Which even then, I don’t count as everyone was in danger, not just her. So this line doesn’t make sense as she already became more independent a long time ago.
@@ToMatt64bro skipped the instructions then got mad when he wasn't told what to do. Bro we literally tried to tell you but you said you didn't need our help by skipping the tutorial what happens next is on you
this is Sonic Mania Plus *SLANDER* and I will NOT stand for it. Encore Mode is much, much more than just stage recolors while adding Mighty and Ray - it has new, harder Special Stages; a new checkpoint mini-game that's a pinball machine; a game mode which has Continues which jells perfectly with the aforementioned pinball machine; some new pathways for Mighty to take; and even a BRAND NEW ACT for Mirage Salloon ACT 1 which is EXCLUSIVE to the Encore Mode - and that ACT? that ACT is probably the best Sonic stage that I've EVER played and probably WILL play. could it have been better? yes, not even the best things are perfect: I would've preferred a brand new campaign with other returning levels and some new ones sprinkled in - I would've done it in reverse of how Sonic Mania did [4 levels from Sonic 1, 3 levels from Sonic 2, 2 levels from Sonic CD, 2 levels from Sonic 3 and 1 brand new level for Encore Mode] akin to how the Special Stages are reversed in this game mode. ...but I also REALLY like how Encore Mode is a GREAT way to play the entire game again with a new, unique spin on it. it's a palette cleanser for Mania Mode when you're tired of it, and it's actually one of the many reasons I have 1000+ hours in Sonic Mania.
@@mehiloll I feel the reason for the hate isn't downright vitriol but moreso a need for MORE Sonic Mania, because they like it so much; instead of a downright extension of the game [New levels], we got EVEN MORE replayability: an enhancer!
Honestly, bit of an overreaction on encore mode. Seeing how you get: . 2 Great New Playable Characters . New more challenging Special Stages . The New Checkpoint Mini-game . A new colour palette & slightly redesigned levels For $5 that’s not bad! I’ve seen much worse cost much MUCH more!
Funny, when I was playing the final horizon and fighting Knight for the trials, I somehow didn't die when all of my rings were drained. That's the ONLY way I beat that stupid trial.
The final horizon section of this video, with the exception of the king trial and the final boss, sounds like you didn't judge it for what it is, but for what it wasn't: you didn't trying to engafe with the game as the devs intended
I might sound lowkey toxic but I think its funny, if ur complaining about final horizon post patch all I have to say is skill issue. In all seriousness I think Final Horizon was really fun.
I agree and I’ve noticed that more sonic content creators have been getting harsher, and being way too negative on the most random things, for example I saw a video complaining about sonic loopty loops or a video about sonic mentioning things from his past? I understand that people have different opinions but who asked for a video about someone complaining about sonic dlc Some people need to give sonic a break he’s trying his best.
@@Crash_Bash89did the video about loopty loops so happened to be from a UA-camr named "Splash Dash"? i didn't find it necessary negative. unless you're talking about a different channel entirely. btw yes, yes i agree, sometimes people need to give Sonic a break
@@Crash_Bash89How dumb can people be? The references are to show that the world's still connected(that each adventure happened, the only thing that *WASN'T* mentioned was 06)and is most likely a one-off thing
No man on earth should have this much sonic origins plus all at once EDIT: I think you should at the very least try the last frontiers patch. The final trial is actually balanced now and the changes made to knuckles make him really fun. You mentioned those changes, but I don't think you realized how much of a difference they can make
@@playbossthebest936let’s just hope that rumored SEGA super game is for Frontiers 2 or something. Cuz let me tell you, I have been waiting SO LONG for a high budget Sonic game again after Unleashed. Hopefully they don’t trash all the new ideas introduced in Frontiers and innovate on them more.
I watch his videos just to see how much mental duct tape someone can use in order to try and present shallow contrarian takes about the franchise as something concrete and thought-through (unsuccessfully)
My opinion on Final Horizon is almost the exact opposite of yours, I liked the journey leading up to the final boss (except for the last trial) while the final boss itself was one of the worst experiences I ever had with a Sonic boss fight
To be fair with Ian Flynn, he did not write a lot of the dialogue on the third Frontiers update, including most of the dialogue you complained about. Basically none of the optional dialogues in the update were written by him
How a you gonna complain the you got ripped of for FIVE DOLLARS. You got a remixed Mania mode, 2 new characters, new special stages, revamped UI and a 4 (previously 2) player competition mode. All that plus bug fixes for 5 buckaroo and you say "too little" ? Also, I don't blame you for the Final horizon opinion. I personally loved it, I think the new playable team sonic felt very nice to play, the new music is fire, the platforming challenges and cyberspace stages a red hella fun, and that final boss is pure hype. But I can see where you're coming from. But what I don't understand is the thoughts on the characters. Knuckles? EVERYONE is with you on that, he should've gotten more combat moves than Sonic. But Tails and Amy? Have you ever seen them throw hands? How are they supposed pull off combos like sonic with a hammer, tarot cards, a blaster, a pair of tails and a few wrenches? I don't see you posing any suggestions to back up your claims (jk, nice video BTW)
MANIA ENCORE WAS FIVE DOLLERS!!! WHAT!! DO YOU EXPECT A FULL GAME AT THE PRICE?!?!?! MANIA ENCORE IS ACTUALLY FUN HOW DARE YOU PUT SHAME ON MANIA'S NAME! >:(
37:37 Xpool lives with Peter Griffin confirmed Also SOLID video! I'm shocked you liked Origins Plus better than Mania Plus though, because Origins Plus still has physics issues and so it's not as polished.
update 3 is good, and after replaying it most of it isn’t that hard. the only real criticisms i have are the master king koco trial (just turn on easy mode right before and turn it off right after) and some unclear mechanics in the final fight (but it’s so epic i don’t care, just look up how to do it)
thought you were a huge channel until i finally looked slightly down - really engaging content ! like your outlook. you’ll definitely there one day, good luck in this youtube hellscape
6:20 I personally believe this takes place after Mania mode. A split timeline if you will. And Mania Adventures takes place after Forces which takes place after Mania mode. Sonic Mania to Sonic Forces to Sonic Mania Adventures was probably for Classic Sonic’s timeline. While Sonic Mania to Encore Mode was probably for Modern Sonic’s timeline.
6:55 i think its a timeline split between mania encore and forces (god i hate timeline splits, like why is the legend of zelda timeline so confusing? its like the developers has watched too much game theory)
Encore mode is Great for 5$ Like I feel you were tryna make the Overpriced joke but 2 new playable characters Hotfoxes and A remix of the original campaign Spunds great for 5$
agreed. i absolutely loved Frontiers. updates and all. i understand the faults with Knuckles, Amy, and Tails and how they play but i still enjoyed using them. Amy was just more fun in my opinion out of the three
@@TokuWafflethe final boss is bad(it barely explains anything) the 2nd trial is also bad, knuckles glide pre-patch is very wonky, Tails and Knuckles have a couple of attacks that wastes 1 to 3 seconds every time you start them, the cyclone can skipp everything, you dont rly have to explore any non-mani story stuff, knuckles has some weird issues climbing walls, you have to grind to be actually able to fight the miniboss in a reasonable amount of time, Tails doesn't have a homing attack, the towers are very flawed, the king master trial is one of the worst things ever in the sonic series(wyvern wastes so much more, in the fight and before) and you have to parry 1 to 2 seconds before it looks like they will hit you. Also, having to go back to the tower to change characters, 4-B kinda sucking near the end with the falling platforms, the pop-in being even more egregious here, and you still can't skip the cutscenes!!
Aside from you sounding like modern Scott The Woz with transitions of yelling or being sarcastic every 5 minutes, the video was interesting to watch!... Except for you bitching about Update 3. Like yes, I agree it's hit and miss (and I also had mental breakdown in Master King Trial), but I feel like you were overreacting most of the time. Hopefully if I meet your video in my algorithm next time, you'll have less of yelling. Best of luck! Edit: Forgot to mention some or more references were too obscure.
I actually agree with you about mania Plus, I would have loved to have seen other levels that didn't make the cut instead of the same levels but with a different coat of paint
Half true, half false, cuz it starts immediately after Classic Sonic returns to his --dimension-- timeline after Forces(hence why he's in the same waving pose he did to Tails before he left)
No, cuz they were teased as playable characters on the Sonic Frontiers update roadmap, we just didn't know how they would've played(the cyclone is a welcome addition imo)
@@MrNeedleM0userandom difficulty spikes aren't "skill issues" , and even if I was good or bad at the game. So I respectfully disagree. But the update was improved after that December patch, definitely. But there is fun to be had
I can only say my opinion for Mania Plus since I’ve played it fully. I like the Encore D.L.C. The addition of Mighty & Ray was the greatest thing the Encore D.L.C had to offer. Though I do think they could’ve added Amy as another additional playable character. The Encore Mode is mediocre as it doesn’t alter too much. It could’ve done so much more. Angle Island Zone was disappointing, it’s just a much shorter version of Act 1, boring. The new aesthetic for things like Green Hill Zone and Chemical Zone, Hydrocity Zone, Mirage Saloon Zone, Oil Ocean Zone, Act 1 of Lava Reef Zone looks great, every other zone looks bad though, ugly color pallets. I think they should’ve made remixes to fit the new aesthetics. Imagine a more warm sounding Sunset Green Hill Zone and it should’ve been in the game? I think it would’ve been better if the Mania Plus team changed some act’s aesthetic in Mania Mode: like make the sunset theme for Act 2 of Green Hill Zone, darker blue for Chemical Plant Act 2, gold color of Hydrocity Zone Act 2, night setting for Act 1 of Mirage Saloon Zone, and more lava effects for Act 1 Lava Reef Zone. There should’ve been a new final boss in the Encore Mode, instead, there’s a little celebration ending after beating Eggman again…that’s it…boring. I never bought Sonic Origins cause I already have 1,2 and C.D in my phones, and after hearing all the complaints, and the unreasonable price, I decided not to buy it, even with the new updates, there’s still new problems. I got the Frontiers D.L.C and was forced with the updates installed. The game itself is kind of boring and at worst, annoying with the levels, stiff and janky physics. The additions were boring and I haven’t finished the Final Horizon, I don’t find it fun. Also I hate how the player has to complete new challenges that I forgot what they’re called in each island to unlock Spin Dash. Fun to played but not worth it after being frustrated with the jankiness of the controls and level designs. That’s all i'll have to say.
I feel it was dishonest of you to claim people were being unreasonable about the audio and lag problems by only mentioning the very obvious ones or just trying hard to downplay the issue. Like the Sega intro being bitcrushed or game lagging when they were too many sprites on screen. Ignoring the real complaints people had like the mono audio or the audio some times while playing just getting flat out corrupted or just not playing at all. Then the input lag the emulators had and the random lag spikes that would happen that wouldn't happen on the original.
I forgot to mention the audio issues. I mention them in the patch section, but I genuinely did forget to mention the issues at first. However, there were genuinely people complaining about the quality of the emulation outside of the slight latency that were genuinely unreasonable. Unfortunately, the one understandable issue was the one I neglected to mention until later. I am sorry.
Nah there's no MJ music in Sonic 3 and the new one sucks. Also there are no comic book covers and a readble comic like Mega Collection Plus had either. And no Vectorman either too.
34:17 Fleetway Super Sonic reference! I swear, no one brings this up. I’m also shocked you didn’t bring up you needed to dodge to remove the cord on Supreme’s head.
bro, you have to play the update again with the new patch and if you think it was just a little bit... NO! they fixed knuckles glide, made the combat easier and much more...
For me the worst thing about Sonic origin plus the face we still cant make save files for Sonic 1, 2, and CD EVEN THOUGH WE COULD ON MOBILE THE MOBILE PORT OF THE SAME FUCKING GAME LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK?! Oh yeah and why in the hell did they lock Knuckles being playabe in Sonic CD behind a damn paywall.
14:30 Actually, there are 4 Sonic game gear games with a Master System Version. Sonic 1, 2, Chaos AND BLAST! Sonic Blast on the Master System came only in Brazil and maybe thats the reason why so many people dont know about that. (and yeah, I know I sound like a nerd but just wanna mention it. Sorry XD)
Was waiting for someone to point this out, actually. The Sonic Blast Master System port was not published or developed by SEGA from my understanding. It was done by TecToy. The port is very half baked and I’m not even sure if they’re allowed to use it. That’s why I neglected to mention this.
I’m still pissed that the sonic origins plus I got for Christmas was used and since segas stupid i didn’t actually get the plus expansion cuz it didn’t have the code thing
Colors fans continuing to slander games like Unleashed and Frontiers keeps being peak irony. Imagine unironically liking the equivalent of unseasoned chicken.
If they do make a Sonic Superstars Plus, I think they should fix the bosses, change the music with the Sonic 4 instruments, make 4 new stages, add the chaotix as playable characters, and have a multiplayer Vs mode that doesn't have every player play the same
Mighty and Ray are more souless than Amy because they barely had any screentime unlike Amy who is a staple character for the series. Ideally i would've liked all 3 though. Also isn't the point of Amy that she's the carrying one? How is that soulless?
I like how he just casually skipped over the new special stages that the encore mode offers which is more challenging compared to the main Mania mode and also ignores the checkpoint bonus game that's way more fun that the blue spheres.
dont let blue sphere guy hear you
I forgot 💀
whoopsie daisy, but god damn I'm a yap master 😭🙏
@@Toadiath I can be worse dw 💀
Speak for yourself
"This update costs $5?!"
*Proceeds to show us 4 copies of a $30-$40 game just for laughs*
The Frontier's criticism is purely and absolutely a skill issue, bro was suffering to a SONIC GAME!!
YOU BOUGHT FOUR count'em, FOUR copies of sonic origins plus but think that 5 dollars for the encore dlc is too much!?!? this man has to be trolling.
it's painful watching this guy try to convince people encore mode sucked
Read my comment and see how I find this video painful lmao, this guy needs to be called out
IKR
It did
fr bro
Encore mode is better than mania mode
XPool suffering with final horizon is the most xpool thing ever.
7:43
It was just five dollars. At least we got what we paid for?
Yeah, like they never promised a whole new game, what would you expect from a $5 DLC? It surpassed my expectations atleast. $5 is worth it imo. Seems like an overreaction to be honest, but it’s his opinion.
watching an xpool video is like going to chic fil a on a sunday
Real
Impossible
Fir the people who don't understand, chick fil a is usually closed on Sundays
what he means is xpool isn't going to give you your chic-fil-a order either
22:34
I don’t understand what this line means. She only was a damsel in distress 2 or more times. CD and SA1 comes to mind, and Riders too.
And the only other times she was a “damsel in distress” was when Sonic’s world or timeline was in danger. Sonic Prime, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Generations comes to mind. Which even then, I don’t count as everyone was in danger, not just her.
So this line doesn’t make sense as she already became more independent a long time ago.
even in SA1 she was hardly a damsel is distress, so at best like 1.5 times total
He doesn’t like Mania’s encore, GET THE PITCHFORKS!
27:55 mate, it's not sega's fault you skipped the tutorial that's on you
All I got from it all was "Skill issue"
@@ToMatt64lol
@@ToMatt64bro skipped the instructions then got mad when he wasn't told what to do. Bro we literally tried to tell you but you said you didn't need our help by skipping the tutorial what happens next is on you
Arin Hanson moment
this is Sonic Mania Plus *SLANDER* and I will NOT stand for it.
Encore Mode is much, much more than just stage recolors while adding Mighty and Ray - it has new, harder Special Stages; a new checkpoint mini-game that's a pinball machine; a game mode which has Continues which jells perfectly with the aforementioned pinball machine; some new pathways for Mighty to take; and even a BRAND NEW ACT for Mirage Salloon ACT 1 which is EXCLUSIVE to the Encore Mode - and that ACT? that ACT is probably the best Sonic stage that I've EVER played and probably WILL play.
could it have been better? yes, not even the best things are perfect: I would've preferred a brand new campaign with other returning levels and some new ones sprinkled in - I would've done it in reverse of how Sonic Mania did [4 levels from Sonic 1, 3 levels from Sonic 2, 2 levels from Sonic CD, 2 levels from Sonic 3 and 1 brand new level for Encore Mode] akin to how the Special Stages are reversed in this game mode.
...but I also REALLY like how Encore Mode is a GREAT way to play the entire game again with a new, unique spin on it. it's a palette cleanser for Mania Mode when you're tired of it, and it's actually one of the many reasons I have 1000+ hours in Sonic Mania.
Yeah, Mania plus is great, especially for less than $10. I honestly don’t really get the hate for that.
@@mehiloll I feel the reason for the hate isn't downright vitriol but moreso a need for MORE Sonic Mania, because they like it so much; instead of a downright extension of the game [New levels], we got EVEN MORE replayability: an enhancer!
thank you uray
Lmao I feel like this video was just rushed that’s all, he is being so picky like if he hasn’t even played the games
Thanks
All of this dude’s mannerisms are taken directly from Scott the Woz who else noticed this?
Just a terrible version of him with terrible takes
@@sirsonic1832 FACTS!
this might be scott the woz's evil doppelganger
i’m pretty sure he was just inspired
Yeah, it’s really obvious
Honestly, bit of an overreaction on encore mode. Seeing how you get:
. 2 Great New Playable Characters
. New more challenging Special Stages
. The New Checkpoint Mini-game
. A new colour palette & slightly redesigned levels
For $5 that’s not bad! I’ve seen much worse cost much MUCH more!
Alternative title: Xpool complaining about sonic updates for half an hour straight
XPool kinda feels like another scott the woz clone. A lot of the delivery kinda makes me cringe because I know it sounds so much like scott the woz.
Getting a LOT of Scott the Woz vibes from this vid in particular, I dig it.
We have Scott The Woz humor at home
Funny, when I was playing the final horizon and fighting Knight for the trials, I somehow didn't die when all of my rings were drained. That's the ONLY way I beat that stupid trial.
This video was basically Sonic fans when anything happens in to the Franchise in real time
Hmm?
Shut the hell up
@@plantoe_chan Agree
The final horizon section of this video, with the exception of the king trial and the final boss, sounds like you didn't judge it for what it is, but for what it wasn't: you didn't trying to engafe with the game as the devs intended
yeah he was just ranting about bro not doing the tutorial and some parts making you confused
I might sound lowkey toxic but I think its funny, if ur complaining about final horizon post patch all I have to say is skill issue. In all seriousness I think Final Horizon was really fun.
I agree and I’ve noticed that more sonic content creators have been getting harsher, and being way too negative on the most random things, for example I saw a video complaining about sonic loopty loops or a video about sonic mentioning things from his past? I understand that people have different opinions but who asked for a video about someone complaining about sonic dlc
Some people need to give sonic a break he’s trying his best.
@@Crash_Bash89did the video about loopty loops so happened to be from a UA-camr named "Splash Dash"? i didn't find it necessary negative. unless you're talking about a different channel entirely. btw yes, yes i agree, sometimes people need to give Sonic a break
@@Crash_Bash89 Agreed
@@Crash_Bash89How dumb can people be? The references are to show that the world's still connected(that each adventure happened, the only thing that *WASN'T* mentioned was 06)and is most likely a one-off thing
Yeah this guy doesn’t really like difficult games
Dog, update 3 of sonic frontiers was made to challenge you, make you endure all you've learnt
i hope you don't actually mind if chill positive people actually liked final horizon
0:59 Spider-Man jumpscare (scary alert)
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No man on earth should have this much sonic origins plus all at once
EDIT: I think you should at the very least try the last frontiers patch. The final trial is actually balanced now and the changes made to knuckles make him really fun. You mentioned those changes, but I don't think you realized how much of a difference they can make
Agree that the patch makes it way better. But before that, yeah, Update 3 was like the worst game in the series as of recently
@@Hyp3rSonic for free that's still one hell of a deal
@@playbossthebest936technically true, I just wished that it was good originally
@@Hyp3rSonic it was good in parts
@@playbossthebest936let’s just hope that rumored SEGA super game is for Frontiers 2 or something. Cuz let me tell you, I have been waiting SO LONG for a high budget Sonic game again after Unleashed. Hopefully they don’t trash all the new ideas introduced in Frontiers and innovate on them more.
I watch his videos just to see how much mental duct tape someone can use in order to try and present shallow contrarian takes about the franchise as something concrete and thought-through (unsuccessfully)
My opinion on Final Horizon is almost the exact opposite of yours, I liked the journey leading up to the final boss (except for the last trial) while the final boss itself was one of the worst experiences I ever had with a Sonic boss fight
Literally the dumbest mechanic I’ve seen, how would anyone know to dodge to damage the cord
@czms922
Dodging to switch targets was around for the entire game and even used by Knight, the game just doesn't do a great job if telling you
@@czms922they want you to know until you 100% the game
Well as they intended…
Its like scott the woz but i can predict every joke
Xswimmingpool is finally back with the milk
Did this guy just complain for a five dollar dlc that offered so much more than what he was bitching about?
7:18
I was expecting him to say Sunset Hill Zone from Sonic Advance 3, but this still is funny.
YOUR HANDS AREN'T BLUE!
To be fair with Ian Flynn, he did not write a lot of the dialogue on the third Frontiers update, including most of the dialogue you complained about. Basically none of the optional dialogues in the update were written by him
23:20 I also don't like Rodger's voice acting Sonic literally sounds like an old man.
How a you gonna complain the you got ripped of for FIVE DOLLARS. You got a remixed Mania mode, 2 new characters, new special stages, revamped UI and a 4 (previously 2) player competition mode. All that plus bug fixes for 5 buckaroo and you say "too little" ?
Also, I don't blame you for the Final horizon opinion. I personally loved it, I think the new playable team sonic felt very nice to play, the new music is fire, the platforming challenges and cyberspace stages a red hella fun, and that final boss is pure hype. But I can see where you're coming from. But what I don't understand is the thoughts on the characters. Knuckles? EVERYONE is with you on that, he should've gotten more combat moves than Sonic. But Tails and Amy? Have you ever seen them throw hands? How are they supposed pull off combos like sonic with a hammer, tarot cards, a blaster, a pair of tails and a few wrenches? I don't see you posing any suggestions to back up your claims
(jk, nice video BTW)
Sonic origins and sonic colors ultimate(and update 3 of frontiers post-patch) are the best ones listed here, imo.
MANIA ENCORE WAS FIVE DOLLERS!!!
WHAT!! DO YOU EXPECT A FULL GAME AT THE PRICE?!?!?!
MANIA ENCORE IS ACTUALLY FUN HOW DARE YOU PUT SHAME ON MANIA'S NAME!
>:(
37:37 Xpool lives with Peter Griffin confirmed
Also SOLID video! I'm shocked you liked Origins Plus better than Mania Plus though, because Origins Plus still has physics issues and so it's not as polished.
update 3 is good, and after replaying it most of it isn’t that hard. the only real criticisms i have are the master king koco trial (just turn on easy mode right before and turn it off right after) and some unclear mechanics in the final fight (but it’s so epic i don’t care, just look up how to do it)
I respectfully disagree about update 3. But it did definitely gotten better with the December patch
thought you were a huge channel until i finally looked slightly down - really engaging content ! like your outlook. you’ll definitely there one day, good luck in this youtube hellscape
SEGA putting a Ninja as the final fight before Master King is a nice callback to the start of the game, definitely did not need a 10 minute timer.
9:58 the grid is literally a reference to the box art of the original genesis games ;-;
This is rage bait and a half. Every expansion in sonic games after sonic forces were Good and don't deserve ANY hate.
28:24 just do the knuckles jump glitch. Oh yeah, I forgot Sega patched that in the fourth update f***
Am I the only one who loves sonic frontiers update 3?
No
No. I loved it, and while I get why some may not like it, it kinda feels like people are overreacting.
Nope, I love Update 3, I now have Frontiers as my second favourite Sonic Game because of it
No even though I didn’t play it I liked the final battle with I’m here revisitied playing in the background
Nope, he literally is just stupid and thinks that encore mode is only a palette swap of the normal game pretty much
6:20
I personally believe this takes place after Mania mode. A split timeline if you will. And Mania Adventures takes place after Forces which takes place after Mania mode.
Sonic Mania to Sonic Forces to Sonic Mania Adventures was probably for Classic Sonic’s timeline.
While Sonic Mania to Encore Mode was probably for Modern Sonic’s timeline.
6:55 i think its a timeline split between mania encore and forces
(god i hate timeline splits, like why is the legend of zelda timeline so confusing? its like the developers has watched too much game theory)
Give Sonic a break bro, he’s trying his best to make us happy. Final Horizon was fucking *PEAK*
disagree
Agree
Encore mode is Great for 5$ Like I feel you were tryna make the Overpriced joke but
2 new playable characters Hotfoxes and A remix of the original campaign Spunds great for 5$
1:29 why is there ghost of molly mcgee footage
Okay gonna have to disagree with that update 3 take.
I respectfully disagree. It got better with that patch tho
Can you elaborate
@@TokuWaffle I mean, I certainly could. But I am very bad at explaining things, so I'd probably mess it up.
agreed. i absolutely loved Frontiers. updates and all. i understand the faults with Knuckles, Amy, and Tails and how they play but i still enjoyed using them. Amy was just more fun in my opinion out of the three
@@TokuWafflethe final boss is bad(it barely explains anything) the 2nd trial is also bad, knuckles glide pre-patch is very wonky, Tails and Knuckles have a couple of attacks that wastes 1 to 3 seconds every time you start them, the cyclone can skipp everything, you dont rly have to explore any non-mani story stuff, knuckles has some weird issues climbing walls, you have to grind to be actually able to fight the miniboss in a reasonable amount of time, Tails doesn't have a homing attack, the towers are very flawed, the king master trial is one of the worst things ever in the sonic series(wyvern wastes so much more, in the fight and before) and you have to parry 1 to 2 seconds before it looks like they will hit you. Also, having to go back to the tower to change characters, 4-B kinda sucking near the end with the falling platforms, the pop-in being even more egregious here, and you still can't skip the cutscenes!!
The Master System version of 8bit Sonic 2 also nerfed the difficulty of the infamous first boss by having the balls drop the same way instead of RNG.
the last horizon update looks cool but i never really bothered to play it cuz i didnt even end up liking frontiers that much lol
0:53 Funny he used Spidey as an example (think abt it)
Hey XPool, you wanna try to beat Final Horizon on Extreme? Love to see you beat Master King Trial with the one hit kill system
Aside from you sounding like modern Scott The Woz with transitions of yelling or being sarcastic every 5 minutes, the video was interesting to watch!... Except for you bitching about Update 3. Like yes, I agree it's hit and miss (and I also had mental breakdown in Master King Trial), but I feel like you were overreacting most of the time. Hopefully if I meet your video in my algorithm next time, you'll have less of yelling. Best of luck!
Edit: Forgot to mention some or more references were too obscure.
Bros mad that super sonic 2 only has blue eyes but doesn’t talk about how that affected the story and how good it was portrayed.
0:31 why is the ghost and molly mcgee there 💀
Poggers speedrun. When do you think that you’ll make the sub 6 months release??
I actually agree with you about mania Plus, I would have loved to have seen other levels that didn't make the cut instead of the same levels but with a different coat of paint
6:40 Mania Adventure isn't Canon. Only Encore mode is fyi.
MA is better, tho. Encore Mode is just a repeat of the main game with a different ending.
@@ChiefMedicPururu true
Half true, half false, cuz it starts immediately after Classic Sonic returns to his --dimension-- timeline after Forces(hence why he's in the same waving pose he did to Tails before he left)
i think playable tails, knuckles and amy were very last minute decisions for the last dlc
No, cuz they were teased as playable characters on the Sonic Frontiers update roadmap, we just didn't know how they would've played(the cyclone is a welcome addition imo)
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He can also reflect small projectiles.
11:47 Never scream again, please.
BTW, which version of Frontiers did you play?
Bro you can not be dumping on the 3rd update for sonic frontiers. It was go... wait why are you right on some of this
scott the woz energy
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
2:38 "These long-forgotten characters." Us Archie fans have always had them.
Not just the Archie fans. Sonic Underground and SATAM fans too.
@@sonicmaiden2871 I mean Mighty and Ray. And also Nack, Bean, and Bark.
@@bowserbreaker2515 also Honey the cat too
@@sonicmaiden2871 Well, she only showed up once.
@@bowserbreaker2515 that's why I'd like to see her in at leasr one more game.
Let’s Fo, Xpool is back
Update 3 was peak you’re just bad
Skill issues xpool though I do agree with what he said about lan flynn
Update 3 is extremely flawed imo. Nowhere near peak.
@@Hyp3rSonic skill issue
@@MrNeedleM0userandom difficulty spikes aren't "skill issues" , and even if I was good or bad at the game. So I respectfully disagree. But the update was improved after that December patch, definitely. But there is fun to be had
@@Hyp3rSonic again. respectfully skill issue.
The Scott The Woz humour is this one
Shoulda killed Sonic like Iron Man, what a fumble 😔
Hell nah 💀
No (I'm talking to the original commenter)
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I can only say my opinion for Mania Plus since I’ve played it fully. I like the Encore D.L.C. The addition of Mighty & Ray was the greatest thing the Encore D.L.C had to offer. Though I do think they could’ve added Amy as another additional playable character.
The Encore Mode is mediocre as it doesn’t alter too much. It could’ve done so much more. Angle Island Zone was disappointing, it’s just a much shorter version of Act 1, boring. The new aesthetic for things like Green Hill Zone and Chemical Zone, Hydrocity Zone, Mirage Saloon Zone, Oil Ocean Zone, Act 1 of Lava Reef Zone looks great, every other zone looks bad though, ugly color pallets. I think they should’ve made remixes to fit the new aesthetics. Imagine a more warm sounding Sunset Green Hill Zone and it should’ve been in the game?
I think it would’ve been better if the Mania Plus team changed some act’s aesthetic in Mania Mode: like make the sunset theme for Act 2 of Green Hill Zone, darker blue for Chemical Plant Act 2, gold color of Hydrocity Zone Act 2, night setting for Act 1 of Mirage Saloon Zone, and more lava effects for Act 1 Lava Reef Zone.
There should’ve been a new final boss in the Encore Mode, instead, there’s a little celebration ending after beating Eggman again…that’s it…boring.
I never bought Sonic Origins cause I already have 1,2 and C.D in my phones, and after hearing all the complaints, and the unreasonable price, I decided not to buy it, even with the new updates, there’s still new problems.
I got the Frontiers D.L.C and was forced with the updates installed. The game itself is kind of boring and at worst, annoying with the levels, stiff and janky physics. The additions were boring and I haven’t finished the Final Horizon, I don’t find it fun. Also I hate how the player has to complete new challenges that I forgot what they’re called in each island to unlock Spin Dash. Fun to played but not worth it after being frustrated with the jankiness of the controls and level designs.
That’s all i'll have to say.
Are we just gonna ignore Sonic 06s DLC...
I feel it was dishonest of you to claim people were being unreasonable about the audio and lag problems by only mentioning the very obvious ones or just trying hard to downplay the issue. Like the Sega intro being bitcrushed or game lagging when they were too many sprites on screen. Ignoring the real complaints people had like the mono audio or the audio some times while playing just getting flat out corrupted or just not playing at all. Then the input lag the emulators had and the random lag spikes that would happen that wouldn't happen on the original.
I forgot to mention the audio issues. I mention them in the patch section, but I genuinely did forget to mention the issues at first. However, there were genuinely people complaining about the quality of the emulation outside of the slight latency that were genuinely unreasonable. Unfortunately, the one understandable issue was the one I neglected to mention until later. I am sorry.
Sonic Origins Plus is better than Mega Collection. fight me.
Counterpoint: no Ristar
Ristar? It’s alright…
Bait used to be believable
Nah there's no MJ music in Sonic 3 and the new one sucks. Also there are no comic book covers and a readble comic like Mega Collection Plus had either. And no Vectorman either too.
The Grey grid is a reference to Sonic's original American boxart. The Japanese cover was white with colourful patterns
SEGA has the most ultimate update strategy, have a good game? make it ass
The game was bad to begin with
@@vrokortac9457 which one there's fucking 3 in the video
nah the games got better
I thought Ray was useless until I figured how to control him.
If we were to duel, I would win
Nah I’d win
@@Natezilla_2 yo
@@playbossthebest936 Yo
@@Natezilla_2W
9:37 you bought the Japanese version of sonic origins to hear you can do anything when starting sonic cd
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Fleetway Super Sonic reference!
I swear, no one brings this up. I’m also shocked you didn’t bring up you needed to dodge to remove the cord on Supreme’s head.
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I’m shocked you didn’t mention the stereo problem with the Game Gear games.
I mentioned that they were patched, but I forgot to mention it beforehand 💀
bro, you have to play the update again with the new patch
and if you think it was just a little bit... NO!
they fixed knuckles glide, made the combat easier and much more...
so, you know the patch😅
For me the worst thing about Sonic origin plus the face we still cant make save files for Sonic 1, 2, and CD EVEN THOUGH WE COULD ON MOBILE THE MOBILE PORT OF THE SAME FUCKING GAME LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK?! Oh yeah and why in the hell did they lock Knuckles being playabe in Sonic CD behind a damn paywall.
the final horizon slander will NOT be tolerated... get the pitchforks
22:48 Sonic Adventure 2 hero story
14:30 Actually, there are 4 Sonic game gear games with a Master System Version. Sonic 1, 2, Chaos AND BLAST! Sonic Blast on the Master System came only in Brazil and maybe thats the reason why so many people dont know about that. (and yeah, I know I sound like a nerd but just wanna mention it. Sorry XD)
Was waiting for someone to point this out, actually.
The Sonic Blast Master System port was not published or developed by SEGA from my understanding. It was done by TecToy. The port is very half baked and I’m not even sure if they’re allowed to use it. That’s why I neglected to mention this.
@@XPool Oh, well... that´s a good explanation/reason. thanks btw
I’m still pissed that the sonic origins plus I got for Christmas was used and since segas stupid i didn’t actually get the plus expansion cuz it didn’t have the code thing
Colors fans continuing to slander games like Unleashed and Frontiers keeps being peak irony.
Imagine unironically liking the equivalent of unseasoned chicken.
???
@@Cr102y huh? 🤔
@@Hyp3rSonic colors is a mid game, just like unseasoned chicken
Thats cool and all but theres 3 ballistic missiles heading directly toward your living space
I think this channel is gonn be a hit with people who dislike the sonic franchise.
Where can I buy my own sarcasm alarm?
If they do make a Sonic Superstars Plus, I think they should fix the bosses, change the music with the Sonic 4 instruments, make 4 new stages, add the chaotix as playable characters, and have a multiplayer Vs mode that doesn't have every player play the same
I still don’t know the cutaway gag
scott the woz if he was uhh idk not scott the woz or something?
Not the ghost of molly McGee making a cameo in an xpool video😂
XDeadpool finally returned not only with a new video, but also THE MILK
27:54 and also one time when I was playing Sonic part of the updates, I could go through all of the knuckle sections by using spin dash
Man I wish Sonic Superstars had Mighty and Ray instead of Amy, Amy is such a soulless character.
Mighty and Ray are more souless than Amy because they barely had any screentime unlike Amy who is a staple character for the series. Ideally i would've liked all 3 though. Also isn't the point of Amy that she's the carrying one? How is that soulless?