Most Americans say they won't buy an EV because of these 3 reasons
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- Most Americans say they won't buy an EV because of these 3 reasons
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You keep saying that EVs require little maintenance but I've had to refill my windshield washer fluid TWICE in the 14000 miles I've driven my 2023 Chevy Bolt. I've also had to vacuum the floor mats.
Use Rain-X instead.
As long as there's movement, there's maintenance.
You hopefully rotated the tires as well.
@@aeronYTco Have you changed the oil in your refrigerator lately?
@@jamesvandamme7786 we’re talking about cars. Why did it become refrigerator? 😂
50% of Americans do not pay federal income tax. Lower income people are not paying the average price for a car. They are usually buying a used car or an economy car.
That’s correct, which means they don’t benefit from Federal tax credits. HOWEVER: this same class of people (who are often mathematically challenged) need to be shown that purchase price alone is a terrible way to make a financial decision and that one MUST take lifetime costs related to fueling/charging & maintenance into account when making significant financial decisions. This is where EVs shine especially for new and relatively new/used EVs. What we don’t know yet is how long EV batteries will actually last (on average) and what costs for repair, refurbs & replacements will especially impact the used EV markets for middle/lower class consumers. If we want to support working class and lower class people, those issues will need to be determined and addressed asap.
@@goingelectric7826 EVs are not cheaper….most Americans that don’t qualify for the incentives don’t own homes. Which means they have to pay high prices for electricity. Insurance on EVs are over 1000 dollars more expensive during a 6 month period. So they are paying just as much to charge as to put gas in their cars….and while EVs have lower maintenance cost it’s made up in the cost of insurance. Which can cost 3500-6000 a year if not more (because car insurance is also based on credit score). So no educating people about car purchases and cost does not lead one to an EV.
I saw this 50% statement and had to fact check it. Wow, I had no idea. 56% pay income taxes. Here is what I got:
The 44% of Americans who don't pay federal income taxes can be broken down into several categories based on the primary reasons they have no federal tax liability:
1. **Low Income**: Many individuals and families earn too little to owe federal income taxes after accounting for the standard deduction and personal exemptions. This group includes a significant portion of those who are working but earning wages below the taxable threshold.
2. **Elderly and Retired**: A substantial portion of non-payers are elderly individuals who rely on Social Security benefits, which are often partially or fully exempt from federal income tax depending on total income.
3. **Tax Credits**: Some individuals and families qualify for tax credits that reduce their tax liability to zero or below. Common credits include the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC).
4. **Deductions**: Some households are able to use deductions such as the standard deduction or itemized deductions to reduce their taxable income to zero.
5. **Students and Young Adults**: Many young adults, especially students, have low income due to part-time jobs or are dependents claimed on their parents' tax returns.
6. **Unemployment and Other Non-Taxable Income**: Some people receive unemployment benefits or other types of non-taxable income that do not contribute to taxable income levels that would result in federal income tax liability.
The specific proportions within these categories can vary, but these are the main reasons why individuals might not owe federal income taxes.
@@goingelectric7826 There is a federal tax credit for used cars, and the prices on some used EVs have come way down to be very affordable.
@@shameless7899 Hi, total cost of ownership is complex. If we're going to take ALL costs into account for the comparison the we will have to take the FOUR TRILLION dollars we've spent on oil conflicts/wars and oil subsidies over the last several decades as well.
You would also need to include all costs related to domestic economic losses by exporting our productive capacity and importing 25-50% our oil needs from abroad for 60+ years, as well as the costs of the national security and public health problems related to ICEs & oil.
Due to the socialist ways that we pay for all of that, while it is unseen by the taxpayer in any obvious way, taxpayers are definitely being taxed heavily and paying for it. Those costs certainly offset any increase costs due to slightly higher EV insurance, and if EV owners could opt out of those taxes because of our lack of oil consumption, then the remaining costs would be concentrated further on those actually using oil and would be even higher.
You can thank your socialist welfare subsidies - and now EV owners' income taxes - for your gasoline being so artificially cheap.
By the way: insurance costs are complex and highly dependent on purchase price of the vehicle. My EV cost $56,000 when new and my insurance is $2,100/yr or $1,050 per 6mo. Are you really suffering that I could insure a $56,000 ICE for just $50 every 6 months?! Wow!!! 🤦🏻♂️
By the way: not owning a home in and of itself doesn't mean renters can't get cheap AC. Either they can just plug in on the 120V in their garage or cajole their landlord to install a 240V outlet, or offer to pay for it themselves, etc. Or organize to solicit businesses & governments to install 240V chargers curbside/locally. There are many options that are now being rolled out for cheap electricity. My apartment complex installed a couple 240 V chargers and I pay $.16 per kilowatt hour which at 3.4 miles/kW average efficiency in my EV, works out to 4.7¢/mi. Gasoline is $5.35/gallon around the corner so a comparably sized and higher performance ICE like a portion Macan getting 22mpg would cost 24¢/mi or more than ***5 times*** more expensive to fuel to travel the same distance. A more expensive and gutless hybrid getting twice the MPGs would still be more than twice as expensive to fuel than my high performance EV.
But true: if a consumer doesn't have any of those AC options then more expensive DC is the next option. However, DC is still almost always less expensive than gasoline, and outside peak afternoon hours it can easily be half as expensive as gas. True though: until 350+kW DC chargers become common, many drivers will do better with a relatively efficient gasoline hybrid.
So, the issue is complex and the simple numbers you threw around are far too broad to have any real meaning. And in many cases, they're just blatantly false. I'm not anti-ICE, but if we're gonna have this conversation, we both have to be open to nuance and complexities of reality.
25% of Americans do not live in a detached single-family home. So charging for them can be expensive and logistically difficult.
That is one of the things we should be focused on changing. We need to figure out where cars park, for how long, and put in chargers therr that can charge in that amount of time. We should be planning on eventually having a charger for every 10 parking spots set up so it can reach at least 2 of them. I think 11.5kw Level 2 is good, but a 80 amp with 2 plugs that can share power would be ideal.
True but charging speeds and range keep increasing and we are about to see a major jump in both by the end of the year, thanks to new CATL and BYD batteries already released in China.
As an EV owner, I wouldn’t get an EV without my own garage where I can charge it hassle free. I find it odd that Naighbor who drives 30 miles to work drives a RAM 1500. I think he gets about 17MPG. EV perfect for him.
Do apartment dwellers ever shop for groceries, shop at Target, read, text, look at a computer, listen to music, play games, talk on the phone, check e-mail, nap, get coffee or donuts while spending just 15 or 20 minutes just once or twice per week on any of these activities while in or out of their apartments?
If they do, they can spend some of that time sitting in an EV doing those activities or shopping near their EV at a Supercharger once or twice per week for 15 or 20 minutes.
That's all it takes. It's really easy.
It's pretty simple.
With an EV, those apartment dweller won't need to drive to a gas station every week, or do oil changes or other vehicle maintenance.
They won't have to worry about catalytic converter thefts.
With EV regenerative braking, brake pads and rotors last the life of the vehicle, and the EV itself will far outlast an old gasoline ICE car.
@@dvader3263 I'm trying to answer the question The Electric Viking posed: Why don't Americans want BEVs. I'm certainly an advocate of owning BEVs: I own one myself. So please don't get me wrong. But there are some pretty good reasons why BEVs can be more difficult and/or costly to own than gas cars. For example, where I live, there isn't one grocery store with a DC fast charger in its parking lot for 12 or 13 miles. There are only 4 dispensers there. There is one supercharger in the area, and that is about 8 miles away at a Wawa, which isn't a supermarket by any stretch. It has 8 dispensers and is always jammed except early in the morning on the weekends. There are 5 level 2 chargers in the area, and they aren't open to the public: They are at private businesses that restrict their use. So if I didn't live in a home with a garage where I could charge my car out of the weather, a big part of the convenience and cost benefit would go away.
American here. I am truly interested in an EV, but here are my own personal three problems.
1. Upfront Cost. Government incentives or no, until I can find an EV that suits my needs for well under $40,000 (USD)-- including all fees, taxes, and incidentals-- I cannot make such a purchase.
2. Ongoing Cost. Interest rates are ridiculous as of late, so I refuse to take out a car loan. Insurance rates have also greatly increased, and I understand that my insurance provider would charge me yet higher rates to insure an EV. Finding an EV that my insurance would not classify as a "luxury vehicle" and jack up the price will be a challenge.
3. Technology Marches On. I am compelled to wait not only to save up enough money, but also to see what new and exciting things are just around the corner. Kia is promising a roughly $30,000 (USD) vehicle in the EV3. Rumors abound that Tesla is developing a so-called "$25,000 EV." And many people claim that they'll have a better, more efficient, faster-charging battery in three or five years. Why financially cripple myself now when I could buy a better car cheaper, later?
This is pretty much where I'm at as well.
The only thing that is stupid is buying a brand new ICE car. EVs will surely take over the market in a few years because they will be cheaper and are a much better driving experience. Those who want to wait for cheaper new EVs will not have to wait very long. I switched to EV because the cost to repair the old one became too big.
I get what you are saying about waiting, but keep in mind that the technology advancements, especially battery, that if you wait until next year’s model won’t be substantially better then you might be waiting for a decade, driving ice vehicles that aren’t getting cheaper nor is the fuel.
I used the Tesla to make it pay for itself doing gig work... I get a used one with higher mileage. I am supporting my wife and 3 kids with it just by using Tesla model 3 as a tool.
UK resident here. I can not buy a new EV for the same reasons.
I sold my old 15 yo diesel for 1.5k and I bought a used small city EV for 10k and now I save £150 every month from fuel. It will pay it self in 4-5 years because the cost of service and maintainance for my old diesel was over £4-500 every year.
A lot of people can’t afford a payment with high interest rates.the middle class and lower are struggling to get by .
So they can't afford any vehicle then.
We have a Model Y and live well out in the country (bush). It works great. Multi-hour trips are a piece of cake.
Ditto.
Wow and thanks for not polluting the city.
@@achangyw I have been to an extremely polluted city (Mexico City) and can appreciate the difference in air quality there and at home. My pleasure to help, even if just a bit.
@@RobinHood-lz2wj how did you know the air was polluted in MC?
@@justinr9753 Visibility about a half mile, almost immediate coughing and burning lungs, burning eyes. That’s about it.
Hey Sam, Tesla Model Y LR owner from rural U.S. here.
Biggest legitimate barriers that I’ve seen are:
1.) people who rent may not have access to home charging…and if the do NOW, jobs and apartments change unpredictably many times, so insecurity of the future is a factor there
2.) Non-Tesla chargers have spotty reliability..I know I wouldn’t put my trust in one
3.) so many different charging systems with different apps for each one. Charging can seem like a research science project compared to the simplicity of pouring gasoline into a tank
3.) the fossil fuel industry has many American’s brains by the balls and are willing to put their faith in the promise of easy access to carbon sourced energy for their vehicles instead of trying to change
I've worked in a lot of apartment parking lots, they usually have regular outlets that allow people to trickle charge. But here in Canada we sometimes have to plug our cars (any type EV or gas) overnight in the coldest nights. I wonder how maintenance people plug in if there aren't regular outlets.
Very good point number 1 , super charging is silly expensive and it will get worse
I don’t agree with 3 , I own a model 3 , I still really enjoy driving petrol cars , especially 4 cylinder turbo
That's why BYD PHEVs sell so well. No charging? No problem. New Qin L with 2.0L/100km city driving with pure gas.
Part of the problem is that there needs to be an industry standard - not just for the charging port itself but for the method of paying. I don't want to download a new app every time I go somewhere new to fill up my car - I just want to rock up, plug it in and stick my debit card in the slot, authorize payment when I'm done and drive off.
Buy a Tesla and you don’t even need your card to charge at a supercharger, just plug it in.
@@steveh4534 When they make a small car I would consider them but makers just want to sell SUVs and absurdly large cars. And the point remains that filling your battery should be as straightforward as filling your gas tank whatever car you drive.
@@MalcolmRose-l3b By early next year all new cars will come with the NACS port. Just use the software of the car you drive. They will be compatible with the Tesla network, if they aren't already. Ford and GM are already compatible with Hyundai/Kia coming in Q4 of this year. The rest will be sometime in 2025.
@@steveh4534 True, but imagine having to buy a Toyota to use a gas station. We need standards.
In Europe CCS is the standard for all vehicles so not an issue. In the US I understand that the Tesla charger has been agreed to be the new standard. The difference with a Tesla at a Supercharger is that it knows your car when you plug it in so that’s all that you need to do.
I don't care if there is not a charger near me. I care that in any direction there will be a charger at about 200 miles away. I charge at home. I only use Superchargers on a long road trip.
I don't care, either. We have had our EV for 9 months and have yet to use a public charger. We charge at home using surplus solar energy.
@@ozimarco Surplus Solar energy . Describe that process .
@@ozimarco Solar... that sounds great!
@@mikewallace8087You save the electricity produced on a roof or even balcony in a battery. From there the power is distributed either way to the house or the garage charging the car. More excess energy is going into the power grid.
Depending on where you live you might have no bill at all or you even get some money each month.
In the US however the utilities probably charge you for trying to liberate yourself. It's called 'land of the fee' for a reason.
@@mikewallace8087When I use the Eco+ setting on the Zappi charger, the EV will only charge when the solar panels produce more power than the house consumes. Instead of this surplus going back to the grid, it's going to the car.
A lot of people live in apartments nobody wants to sit in the hood charging up their car even if it only takes 15 minutes
In my country not even 4% of people live in apartments. So EVs are perfect. I have never stopped to charge my ev for 18months. Always at home and always during my power companies 3 free over night hours. I don’t pay to travel and I average 500km a week
@@lifeliver9000 Well good for you.
Do you have any consideration for those that carrybigspeaksoft1758 mentioned that are living in a different situation than you?
I think your reply is somewhat self-centered and misses the point that carrybigspeaksoft1758 was making by a country-mile.
@@happyhotspring3501 I’m not lucky I’m the majority. Yes sucks being in an apartment or living in a submarine or air ballon. Life goes like this. You can’t always have everything you want. You make it happen with the cards you are dealt. If I was in an apartment I’d go smaller like an electric scooter or bike so you can take to your apartment and charge. First world problems I guess
Point is, I can drive 1000km on one tank. I can sleep anywhere when I am tired, and drive on after a short nap.
No hassle with finding the right app for charging, and maybe waiting in a queue.
For folks who need fast long distance transport, EVs are still not ideal.
It is only about being free from one's obsessions. Driving longer than 4 - 5 hours without a break is never necessary, nor is it good for safety. No matter how full your head is of meaningless thoughts.
I can sleep anywhere I want when I'm tired and also drive on after a short nap. I do a quick charge during a restroom break and a full charge during meal breaks. I only use a single app for charging, much the same as using a single credit card for purchasing gas back when I drove gas. I travel long distances in my EV, there are long stretches in the US desert Southwest. I recently traveled from my home in Sedona, AZ to Los Gatos, CA a distance of 800 miles. I left Sedona early in the morning and I was in Los Gatos in time for dinner. You can't travel 1000km without stopping. If you do, then you need the services of a good urologist. You didn't say how large your gas tank is but I am guessing about 15 gallons. The energy in 15 gallons of gas is about 505.5 kWh. That is enough energy to power my EV for 2,224 miles or about 3,580km. If you are driving diesel then it's enough energy to power my EV 2,686 miles or about 4,322km. Your combustion vehicle is massively inefficient. I don't see your point. The three factors that determine when you need to charge 1) your bladder 2) your gut - meal breaks 3) Your butt - a tired driver is as dangerous as a drunk driver.
Same here. EV wastes a lot of TIME, which is also money they never mention. Also drastically reduced range with extra loads, trailers, cooling etc. they never talked about that. And with family, I will stick to tried and proven for decades ICE.
@@georgiaguardian4696 We come home and plug the EV in a the garage. No oil changes, no going to the gas station, no smog checks, no maintenance. There is a lot of TIME involved in the things I just mentioned. Road trips are easy with 300 miles of range, by the time you are getting low you pull in to a charging station, they are always close to food and a bathroom, take a break, eat, pee, etc and get back on the road. I'm not seeing this huge TIME problem. Been owning a Model 3 since 2018, it's been life changing.
@@muskrat3291 Sure . Good for you.
BTW my car cost me $2000 with repairs, has a 60 litre tank, and is really light. (edit yes, around 15 Gallons if you all want to stick to old British measures lol)
I am all for EVs, but do not have the time or the money to invest in one. Also I live in an apartment, and charging on the street is expensive.
Maybe in a few years
Road is a Telsa model 3 felt every bump heard the road noise loud.... I will stay with gas ..... i am not plugging up a car into my house. Why cause my home is all electric so don't need an added expense
(From a former dealer). Most of traditional dealers, their salespeople and service departments don’t want to sell EVs. The longer term revenue stream isn’t there for EVs as it is for gas / diesel vehicles. It doesn’t fit the traditional dealership business model. There is too much at stake. That’s why 17 US state’s powerful dealer associations fight tooth and nail lobbying their local governments to keep the EV direct manufacturer to customer sales from happening in their State.
The eventual electrification of transportation will happen simply based on the economics. The genie is already out of the bottle…
I agree 100%, this is what Sandy Munroe is saying as well. The dealerships rely on regular servicing & repairs.
Totally agree.
Dealers make no sense for EV since they need no service.
100% spot on and is probably why it is better to buy an EV from Tesla than any of the legacy model. I never thought of buying a Tesla or any EV, but after driving my son's new Model 3 and frustration with my Lexus dealership, I leaped into the world of Tesla.
@@jdc3636Peobably better to say “much less service”. 👍🏻
I bought an EV in February, and i have not needed to pay for charging beyond home charging. I have a 5 year loan, and with gas prices the way they are, my car will pay for itself in about 3 years.
Brilliant strategy👍👍👏👏
Exciting to hear that!
Same
one yeah old model 3 compared to a one year old Prius and go!
Ha ha! Spend $800 a month on car payments to save fuel costs? Spend time listening to Dave Ramsey!
Thank you sir for this info. As a Yank who lives in a remote mountainous rural area with a long and severe winter, and has owned and operated an EV since 2018, I think there is only one issue with current EVs for rural dwellers, namely range. We have home charging available along with Solar PV and energy storage. Our EV (Tesla M3 Dual motor LR) has been more reliable than any ICE car I've ever owned (10+ over 50 years). Our only issue is that with NMC batteries with 80% daily max charge, 15% range loss in winter, and very long climbs, we are at the edge of the range (rating 300 miles new, but with 80% max charge and 15% loss in winter, min range is about 200 miles). No problem in summer, but in winter (6 months of year here) we often have to make a stop on the way home at a supercharger to top off. So my recommendation is that EV makers have options for 350-400 mi range vehicles that are affordable. One reason we have an order for a 400 mi range Aptera solar EV. The current Charging network is adequate and much better compared to when our car was new.
Agreed. American here who’s driven my 2020 Model Y Long Range 84,000 miles all across the US & Canada in all sorts of rotten winter weather. Light duty EVs won’t be practical for the majority of buyers until they’re sold with 130kWh batteries (compared to 60-80kWh now), and heavy duty trucks will need to pack 300-400kWh batteriess (which will require at-home/at-work 19.2kW AC chargers, 50-100kW at-business DC chargers, and public 500-2,000kW DC megawatt chargers in order to be practical). We’ll eventually make all those upgrades to our infrastructure here in North America - and get those larger batteries - but it is going to take quite some time (and money).
Yea. Im sure this problems will be resolved with time. This is very early technology. It will get only better. EV cars there exist today are the worse EV`S there ever will be. Give it another 5 years and those cars will resolve probably all your problems you have with the current one.
Sam, for me it came down to cost to insure. I pay $605 every six months for 4 vehicles. When I got a quote on a long range model Y it was $950 for one vehicle. I like less, to no maintenance, but the cost to insure for me is a hard pass.
My wife and I ran the numbers about 18 months ago. We're in Australia, we both have an excellent driving record and the insurance quote was $2,500 Aud p.a. for a model 3.
But that wasn't the worst bit. The depreciation on a model 3 here has been eye watering. When I'd finally run the numbers, I had to pick myself up off the floor.
And that was without factoring in finance! (we're cash buyers). It worked out to over $300 per week over three years in just insurance and depreciation alone. If you were to add in finance costs to that... Wow! You might as well buy a small apartment, at that point. Needless to say, we've got better things to do with our money than bin so much of it on a car purchase.
@@davidbrayshaw3529That premium amount that you were quoted has now jumped to 3300au.😊
Teslas are more expensive to insure. But a Chevy Bolt is much cheaper to insure. About half the cost.
1- The cost, 2-The 'headaches' if not home charging, 3-Gas is cheap(most States)
For 18 months, I havent had the headache of having to get gas, or getting a low fuel light when I am already running late for work.
Before i installed a home charger, I just charges at walmart when I got groceries for the week. It takes 30 mins anyway to shop.
Electricity is about 1/5 the cost of gasoline.
As far as charging our Tesla, we drove over 1,100 miles a few weeks ago and we had absolutely no problem finding a supercharger.
3 reasons. ... Hassle, Dangerous, Hassle
? My ev isn't a hassle, and has great crash test results.
My brother-in-law likes EVs didn't buy one because there are no convertables. He bought a BMW.
You may think there's charging infrastructure, but there really isn't. In the US, you can basically find a gas station within 5 minutes of anywhere. For EV chargers, you may have to go 30 minutes or an hour to get to a charging station. Nobody wants to spend 1-2 hours round trip plus 30 minutes charging their cars. Moreover, if everyone gets EV, the waiting time at the charging station would be ridiculously long. The cost of time is unacceptable high.
I have an EV and live in a cold climate (Sweden). I'm retired and the cost savings of owning an EV are significant. Range in winter is lower but with today's long range batteries it's noticeable but NEVER a problem. Problem today is that if you try to tell ICE car owners the advantages of EV's they quote conspiracy theories, tell you horror stories and call you an EVangelist, a result of negative media reporting I think. Hate to admit it but if someone asks me today how it is to own an EV I simply say "good".
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You haven't sold it, yet. You never know how cheap a car is to own until you've got the cheque in your hand when you move it on.
@@davidbrayshaw3529Looks like the majority of major car manufacturers are reducing their EV ambitions. Ford, GM, VW have all announced such plans. Toyota future is bleak with their alternative technologies, EV killers, that will never happen. I’m so glad I got my EV when I did, “good for the environment”, saving tons of money. I could care less what the resale value is, have no intention of selling. My answer to your comment is…”good “.
@@ericmathisen2825 EV's are an excellent transport solution for all number of people.
But they are not necessarily a "cheap" transport solution. Fortunately, that is not a problem for you.
No need for conspiracies here in the wonderful not so cold climate of California, USA.
Just for comparison:
Sweden's landmass is 6% of the contiguous United States, which does not include Alaska or Hawaii.
Sweden's landmass is 158,751 square miles.
Not including Hawaii and Alaska;
the Landmass in the United States is 2,600,000 square miles...
... If people in the United States only had to drive an average of 6% of what they actually do have to drive to cover the country, I am 100% certain that EV's would be much more popular than they are.
Possibly, for the USA people it is the same as for the rest of the world.
The new price is still way to high for the masses. The cheapest EV with a usable range is still more than the average year salary.
When you make €30k per year after tax, you dont have money to spare for food, insurance and housing when you have to buy an EV that is €30k or more.
Lease or rent is €450 a month for an EV of €30k.
THAT is the main reason why the masses cant afford an EV.
What is the lease or rent for an ICE car that costs €30k?
People can't afford a $30k EV and they buy a $70k pick up truck that makes 20mpg.
At top ten of sold cars in US there are 4 pick up trucks, 2 big SUVs, 2 medium SUVs, one medium sedan and one EV. The cheapest is over $30k.
Sam briefly said something interesting there and that was that the Americans polled were more inclined towards hybrids rather than pure electric. Which means hybrids would outsell BEVs in that sample group of Americans who were polled. Hybrids have actually been outselling BEVs in Australia for the past 18 months so perhaps the future in some countries like the US and Australia will be a mix of EV, hybrid and ICE, and other countries like Norway for example will probably be predominantly EV.
They might be at price parity, but they're at price parity with highly inflated prices. If they would offer EVs at parity with pre-pandemic ICE prices, then they may have a realistic case. As it is, a majority of Americans' incomes have not kept up with price inflation, cars and otherwise.
So, what happened to the worldwide envied middle class of the 50's and 60’s? Oh, that's right, voting Republican with resulting corrupt politicians and completely blind and ideologically handicapped and bought presidents from Reagan with his middle class killing 'reaganomics' idealogy on happened!
So live with it, you all brought it onto yourselves!
They're at price parity with other expensive cars. They're not at price parity with cheap cars.
No chargers near me in northern Pennsylvania. At the time I used two apps to find some. About 25 miles away was the closest.
If you have electricity at home, no problem. You only care when you're on a trip.
That poll shows that when EVs will be clearly cheaper than ICE cars (and without subsidies), EV adoption will skyrocket. Fortunately, this is what is coming.
Yeah, the price will make the change happen quickly. That’s why Tesla needs that $25,000 car. It’s coming.
@@kevindelandrealty You can buy a 2017 or newer Tesla for in the 20Ks and it will have all the features of a new Tesla including the ability to use the latest Autopilot and/or FSD. Try that with another auto manufacturer.
@@kevindelandrealtyAmericans don’t want a $25k car. Just look what’s on the roads. SUVs and trucks. Almost no passenger cars.
Maybe $25k robotaxis can cause the young people to drop car ownership all together.
I’m afraid Sam is right, media won the brainwashing war due to Tesla’s non-participation in the ads/informative campaigns.
I just picked up my CT and asked the delivery person what to do about rust particles being attracted to the surface. He said yeah, Tesla has a video on how to treat the surface, they actually expect you to do that. He didn’t give me a link to it, just said go search for it…I was like, why? If everyone has to do it, it makes sense that you do it as part of delivery prep or it’s done at the factory; why does everyone need to search for this stuff and spend their time? He’s like: well Tesla has always relied on owners to do their research…
We’re not dealing with early adopters anymore, this is BS. For mass adoption we need to make things as easy as possible for people. Tesla is not having the right attitude towards this. Maybe they are focusing on FSD and think the hell with the sales. If people really think EVs are more expensive than ICE then Tesla has not done their job properly.
If you look at the number of horsepower, an EV is already cheaper. What ICE car has 280 horsepower and costs less than $35k. I don't know of any.
@@beehappy7797 Reality has nothing to do with it. To take the market, EVs must be clearly and unequivocally cheaper than ICE cars (even without subsidies). Technologically and environmentally speaking EVs are already superior to ICE cars, but it's clearly not enough.
From what I understand charger availability of rapids in the US is shockingly low - taking many months to repair
Norway are already up to 92% adoption of EVs
They have so much hydroelectric though.
That is because they incentivize the snot out of them.
@@geogeer9911 Yes and I think this allow Norway to reach their target date. (2025 if I remember correctly which is very aggressive compared to most country 2030 to 2050 for some.) Norway applied the principle ( ‘polluter pays’ principle, deterring drivers from owning high emission cars with hefty taxes, has encouraged Norwegians to go electric.) Contrary to many American states still today denying climate change and still denying petrol can pollute. Or dividend is way more important.
Funny parts is Norway a big petrol producer too, but look like they are less brain washed by pro petrol company since look like they will succeed to reach their target in the transition in their country.
@@geogeer9911 Oil production will collapse before 2035 according to Tony Seba. And he has been right in almost all his previous calculations.
@@sergiomomesso1590 Nah, they cover much of the cost and give incentives like letting those cars drive in HOV lanes. Apparently they have nothing better to do with their money.
I'm don't live in the states, but when we bought our first EV 6 years ago (it was a 5 year old LEAF) we were a bit apprehensive about it. For something like an old LEAF, range anxiety is a thing but it didn't stop us enjoying some adventures out of town (going long distances in an old LEAF without major inconvenience takes some planning!). The LEAF is now 11 years old and still running as well as it did 6 years ago (apart from some expected battery degradation). We much preferred driving the EV. We now also have a much longer range option (Model 3) and range has not proved a problem in NZ (in fact it actually gets more range than my very first car which already didn't stop us taking it anywhere) and the minimal trip planning needed the car does for us.
That said its understandable people are a little reluctant to adopt new technology, and also as most car bought are second hand (to be affordable), it will take a while to build up a sizable second hand EV market (and EV dealer support!).
Just one question. Did the questionnaire include the question of the cost of installing a home solar, wind generation, or other renewable energy system? In my area, that up-front cost is over $40,000.
My main concern: I only buy 3-5 years old cars: what EV can I get for say $10k?
One that will let me turn the FM on in one click and set the volume with a knob.
Leaf?
BMW i3, Renault Zoe.
All new vehicles are way down in numbers in America. They simply cost much more than the average American can safely afford now.... The average vehicle now is 14 years old in America, and even older outside of the major cities where most lease new vehicles. It will be many years for new and used EV's to take over with costs of all vehicles being so much more than people's means will allow.
In the UK insurance for EV is expensive, making it more expensive overall to own than ICE car.
US homes all have 240V. It's spilt-phase to 120V for low powered things.
I pay £500 for a 5yo £15k EV and I paid £400 for my old 15yo diesel car that I can't sell it even for £1000.
@@chrishar110 Using Money Supermarket for Tesla Model Y Long Range Insurance I was quoted around £1200 ( full no claim bonus, retired, less than 5000 miles per year ).
I calculated that my energy cost savings over a five year period when comparing gasoline to home charging of Tesla 2024 Model 3 EV would be approximately $3000 in the Silicon Valley area.
Rented an EV in DFW and could not find working level 3 chargers despite maps, we need swapping infrastructure to proliferate EVs or EVs aint working but for the very few
Does that include depreciation.
@@squishedfrog99-gp4qq This was purely an estimate of energy costs. Off-peak electricity costs of $0.46 per kWh, 8000 miles/year driven, gasoline at $5.50 per gallon, and the ICE car would average 25 mi/gal.
Living about 50:50 between Switzerland and France, I save approximately the equivalent of $5500 PER YEAR on gas (net of electricity cost) alone. After 5 years owning my Tesla M3, these savings, plus savings in maintenance, have paid for about half the price of the car!
That is a good reason explaining why EVs are selling like hot cakes in both of those countries.
That's because Gov Newscum has done everything possible to kill solar and EVs. Well not everything - soon EV owners will pay tax per mile.
I'm in a midlands town in the UK, There are 4 chargers in a local supermarket, 5 in the shopping mall and 4 street chargers and a couple in a retail park. And in London there are chargers on street lamps.
On the road charging is literally twice as costly as deisel per mile. At home the majority of my miles, I pay around 3.5p per mile and 7.5p per kwh. It's 75p most places on the road, often more. It's about time we had proper pricing, there's surely no need to skin us alive out there.
They need to pay for the chargers as well as the electricity.
1/3 of the people in the US live in apartments
Good job! And a full charge at home of the big Model S cost about $14 in electrical bill, affording us a range of 407 miles. Another one is the yearly savings in oil change, valve / belt adjustments, antifreeze among other things. Love your channel Sam. Cheers!
I own 3 EV's in California. I don't think I'd want one if I had to rely on public charging or if I lived where it snows. 🤔
EVs cannot be charged at snowy places?
I live in a country with a decent amount of snow in winter (Switzerland)... and my Tesla M3LR is absolutely GREAT on snow!
@@st-ex8506 I guess it’s okay if you don’t get too much range loss. I’ve heard some people do.
@@Shane-zl9ry EVs work very well, much better than ICE cars by really frigid weather.
But, it is true, you do lose range by cold temperatures, especially if the EV in question is not equipped with a heat pump, like all Teslas are now.
My experience is a range loss of around 10% by 0°C (32°F), about 20% by -10°C (14°F)... and I hear from Canadian UA-camrs 30-40 % by -37°C (-35°F). Never experienced that cold weather in my Tesla!
So, for most people in most circumstances and in most locations, it is a non-issue. If you live in Alberta or in Montana... or in Scandinavia, and MUST go on long road trips in the harsh of winter... then sticking with your ICE car for a few more years might be the right choice.
If you follow some Scandivian YR sites on the topic, you will realize that they do NOT have any problem using their EVS even in the middle of winter.
Despite what the polls show if the price is low enough people will buy EV's regardless of all the other FUD. GM had no problem selling Bolts and it was considered a mediocre EV by today's standards. EV's are the future just like ICE replaced the horse and carriage. People fear what they do not understand and this has been the case throughout the history of mankind's advancements.
Hey Viking if you want to do your viewers a service maybe you should be asking these questions. How much EMF radiation are children getting by sitting on a 80 kWh battery? How much EMF radiation is produced by the motors? How much EMF radiation is given off during charging? Are there any government regulations? What are the manufacturers doing to protect the occupants? You always say electric is better for your health. Is it? Let us know.
LOL, are you scared of light? Becasue light is also 'EMF radiation'. Charging produces em waves with much lower frequencies than visible light.
@@zes7215 Did you read my comment in its entirety? I said effects on exposing children. You are comparing the Sun to a EV? 😂. Can you show me studies that show it is safe?
EMF radiation is not a thing. You mean electromagnetic radiation. Dangerous electromagnetic radiattion is in tthe ultraviolet, x-ray and gamma ray spectrum. The electromagnettic radiation emitted by an EV will mostly be contained within the motor and exposure will be a lot less than from usin g a mobile phone.
Less radiation than the high voltage magneto in the ICE.
I think that you mean EMR (Electro Magnetic Radiation). Firstly, batteries do not produce EMR. Electric motors do produce EMR, but at a frequency and power level that is safe to humans.
How do we know that it's safe to humans? We know that it's safe for humans as we have been inadvertently testing it for the last 100 years or so. Machine operators in factories, train drivers and tram drivers have all been exposed to sustained levels of EMR that greatly exceed those produced by an EV, and without consequence.
The biggest threat from EMR produced by an EV is that it could possibly interfere with vital radio services. In the USA, this is governed by the FCC and there are limits in place to ensure that this doesn't happen, although in all honesty, it's not well policed.
And by the way, EV or no EV, Electric motor or no electric motor, you are swimming in EMR. The universe produces plenty of it, all by itself. That static on the radio or on an old analogue TV... it was there a million years ago. We've adapted to live with it. Just avoid the super high frequency stuff such as UV, X and gamma.
My daughter had an accident with her ICE car. We had it fixed and she drove the car for a few years and her brother drove it for a couple more years. When we sold it, we found out it had a bent frame. We did not know, it ran fine.
It seems to me if an electric car has a structural battery pack and it sustains damage that would have bent the frame on an ICE car, it will also damage the structural battery pack and therefore cause the car to be totaled. That would cause the insurance for the electric car to be expensive because the electric car can't be fixed from this type of accident.
You can also buy a SPLITVOLT and share the dryer outlet to charge. 16amp-24amp charger is more than enough for daily commute and errands.
It's probably a point that folks in the UK don't see. US appliance outlets are 110V ac with 240V ac for heavy loads. The UK outlets are all 240V ac ring mains with dedicated 32A ways for high loads.
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I will add another reason, although it is probably not well known since a person must own and EV to find out. Insurance and license renewal fees are higher. I live in California, and they have pushed EV buying, but charge far more for both. I am comparing a 2022 Volvo XC40 to an 2023 Audi Q5. Similar price, but the above is more for the EV.
Not so here in the UK.
There are many elderly citizens who are scared of EV because they are something new...... Someone in California told me the electricity comes from coal, but there is only one coal plant in the entire state.
I don't know the main source, but just happened to see the governor of Virginia complaining against California go EV. I funny know why the Virginia governor has to go this low to get more vote?
Well..did u ask the elders in China 😅
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know
But they aren’t scared of Trump!
China will go 100% EV soon@@Ahda108
I definitely feel a backlash against EVs lately, and part of the issue is government policies. Upper middle class people getting $7500 to buy a nice, new car? That's not going over well. And money being thrown away to build charging stations...that aren't even being built? Just let the market take care of it. In a few years, EVs will be very competitive without taxpayer's help.
I won't buy one.
1) too expensive
2) friends with them have significant headaches due to charging and range issues
3) I live in Canada and my family enjoys road trips that are impossible in an EV because charging slows the travel time to the point the trip isn't doable without adding an extra day or two and $300 to $1000 for another one or two hotel nights.
Friends with EVs showed up at an out of town birthday picnic over an hour later than us despite leaving at the same time because they detoured to a charger.
I am also scared of fire during charging. If it goes up, we lose our home.
Good for my country which exports Crude oil.
@@achangyw Canada is a major crude oil producer.
Top 3 Reasons:
1) Media
2)Media
3)Media
Wrong: Reality, reality, reality. Many flyover states have fewer than 100 chargers for the entire state, and most are the Electrify America crap that rarely works.
Sam, that EV incentive that you mentioned as a big perk of purchasing one exists only because of Biden and Democratic votes in Congress. Sorry to make this political, but when you say on occasion that you’re not political and you have no preference between Biden and Trump, the differences between these two candidates and their respective parties in regards to their environmental policies couldn’t be more stark.
The biggest issue is inflation. So a 3% rate is now 9,10 or 15% for people with bad credit. So instead of switching, just like a house, you keep driving the car you have because that's cheaper. The same goes for insurance. A new EV is really expensive on full coverage. If it isn't a Tesla or Ford MachE, it can cost too much to fix if you get into a wreck as well. Worst case is if the parts aren't available and it takes 12mo to get. Then you have to get a car/rental while you wait to fix your car. It's not a lack of interest or chargers imho.
I don't think anyone thinks that people have to buy an electric car. Just that it's stupid to buy a brand new ICE car. There has to be a natural transition to EV. A car should run until it wears out.
Rural American with a Model Y here. Theres absolutely social/political ideology with the vocal opposition to EVs, very true.
But it’s absolutely cost, and unknowns of ownership that are leading the adoption woes.
Sure a model Y is “cheaper”, but it’s still an expensive car even with a tax credit. People in the US looking to spend $40K car are not mostly looking for a small SUV. They are looking at a large family vehicle or a truck. There are no affordable EVs sold in the US that meet that demand.
Rural and suburban Americans have larger families and go on long road trips to remote places, tow campers and boats, etc.
The talk of inadequate infrastructure is absolutely true. I have to plan meticulously to get from my state to a vacation spot. Worse the cost of supercharging is very nearly the same per mile of driving as gas is. (At least in oil economy rich states like mine). Worse still, 3rd party chargers are incredibly under maintained and frequently broken.
Obviously for daily driving the costs are incredibly low with home charging, so I LOVE having an EV. Especially since I drive about 300-500 miles a week.
Im probably still gonna get one but here are my concerns.
#1 RANGE: range loss in extreme weather combined with normal battery degradation and not being able to charge to 100% really impacts range and I drive 65 plus miles per day.
#2 RESALE. If a ev is gonna need battery replacement or have 30% less range due to degradation its gonna have bad resale value.
#3 CHARGING. Not a problem for me but if you live in an apartment and cannot charge at home, finding a station and dedicating time to wait to charge is a deterrent.
ICE Vehicles have their negatives but im going for an ev for the planet, to save on gas (i have solar panels), it will be a second vehicle, and i like fast cars!
#1 RANGE 65 miles will never be a problem even in extreme weather since 300+ miles is common in today's cars.
#2 RESALE 8 year warranty on battery. An 8-year-old car will have a poor resale value regardless of whether it is an EV or not. I'm sure that an EV will be much easier to sell in 8 years than an ICE car.
#3 SHARGING Not a problem for you. :)
You will not regret buying an EV. It's a completely different world. Remember that problems are always imagined. They are never real.
300 miles with 30% loss due to weather, then another 10% because i cant charge to 100% to save the battery, then 10% loss due to battery degradation and now i have 150 miles of range. But that wont happen often so not that worried.
FUD works.
Insurance payments for EVs in US being very high indicates not FUD
@@edfhobbies556 And what you wrote is FUD.
@@jamesvandamme7786 The information I posted is falsifiable
I have a friend who is a panel beater by trade but is also a damn good mechanic. Over a few beers recently he told me about a future project car he intends to build. It’s hilarious. He wants to pick up a damaged Tesla that has been written off by the insurers. The plan is to remove the battery and electric power train, and stick an LS in it with a 6 speed manual and turn it into a V8 Tesla. He’ll try and get it engineered (official engineering approval for registration) but doubts it would pass so it would just be a fun car on the family farm.
if i couldnt charge at home i wound never have bought one
What if you could charge at work and had a backup gas car?
@@ledzeppelin1212 i work in a different place every day so i make sure i have plenty of charge and i have a gas back up
Internal combustion in the very cold, that is not always the case. There are several ways to start combustion in any temperature. Boosting, block heaters, even an open toaster oven on a piece of plywood slid under the engine block for 30 minutes. (If you didn't plug the block heater in the night before). Once it is running it's running (I lived in -40 winters for 20 years, seen it all)
The ev battery in that temp. If it's not going you're not going anywhere.
Calling Americans, or any cohort that is reluctant to adopt EV's, brainwashed, is not helpful at best and patronising at worst! Buying an EV is NOT a 'no brainer' for many a people for many a reason. Leave the hyperbole to your 'EV Hater' YT competition, please...
But you ARE brainwashed . . . .
And honestly, pretty stupid!
Common 120v domestic supply has to be a factor, too. Charging at home is much faster in EU and AU.
US residential is 240V. Common misconception.
@@tommc3764 240v supply entering a U.S. home is typically split into 120v as distributed wall outlets, with the only 240v outlets on dedicated circuits to high drawing appliances like clothes dryers. Elsewhere in the world, all distributed outlets are 240v. Henceforth, new homes will come standard with a dedicated 240v outlet in off-street parking areas, but as of now, many people are still limited to using a 120v outlet in older homes.
All that said, many Americans are led to believe that “it takes three days to fully charge an EV from a standard outlet”. In reality, people rarely “fully charge” (from 0-100%) an EV, and with a very modest modification to domestic supply, overnight charging will suffice 99% of the time.
Think one big reason is nothing is wrong with my current car and I don't drive more than a 1000 miles a year. If you don't need to drive then you don't need to spend a bunch of money for a new car.
If you want to spend 2-3 hours charging up your tea kettle while out on a road trip have at it. And that's if there isn't anyone else.in line.
I would not buy an ICE car from GM (Government Motors). Why would I buy an EV made by those idiots?
America is not a free market so the scenarios is skewed.
We should eliminate subsidies for petroleum.
I can understand the financial benefit of driving an EV in much of the populated areas of the U.S. with electricity rates as low as $0.12 per KWH but my Edison rate in California is $0.43 /KWH (tier 3 and public charger cost). With most EV's getting about 3.5 miles per KWH, that's over $0.12/mile. My Toyota hybrid gets 42 MPG with gasoline costing $4.20 per gallon which calculates to $.10/mile. That's less cost per mile. Plus, the cost of gasoline goes up and down based on supply and demand. The cost of electricity only goes up. Next year, the cost of electricity will go up further when the state adds another fee to the cost of electricity based on a customers income. Of course better off customers will pay more and poor customers will pay less. This is very problematic and of great concern to Californians. Also remember, we have to reduce our electricity use in the afternoon and early evening when the demand for electricity exceeds the supply. I'm still on a flat rate but most will be on a variable rate that escalates rapidly during periods of high demand. In summary, it's not really EVs that are the problem, its the electricity supply and government/utility bungling of the infrastructure. I have enough panels to cover my housing needs but this is just to complicated to include transportation into the mix. With a hybrid, I can go anywhere I want within 400 miles, anytime I want with a 5 minute fill up.
I went with a plugin hybrid, because my driving is a mixture of local trips (EV works for me) and road trips (EV inconvenient for me). I did quite a bit of research into making an EV work for me, but couldn't find a way for my particular situation. Issues are charging infrastructure, battery performance in cold weather while going from sea level to 7000 ft, time to charge vs fill up, and I won't buy a Tesla, because their front man is such a jerk.
I've owned a Model S, Model 3 and currently own a Model Y. All together I've been driving all electric vehicles for the last 10 years. The one valid reason for someone to be hesitant to buy an EV is the reliability of the non-Tesla charging networks in the USA, sadly, including my home state of California. Another factor is that additional resistance to EVs comes from the Midwest, the home of legacy auto makers and the UAW. Unless legacy automotive comes up with a better plan than switching to Tesla's charging technology, it's going to be a long time before Americans have reliable charging options.
As a rule American manufacturers are only interested in high profit milking the consumers for ever. So the first huddle is EV are sold more expensive than ICE cars. The second huddle is the fossil fuel industry can use propaganda to discourage EV purchasers citing high insurance cost, fire risk and unpopularity. Thirdly the infrastructure isn't there yet as charging stations are few and far between. Lastly US putting high tariff on Chinese EV means the Americans are deprived of access to EV cheaper than the ICE cars plus range more than 2000 km. So US has pretty much "contains" the growth of EV to suit whoever lobbying the administration.
The Americans are destined to lose out because the system is so corrupted that nothing is fixed but let to rot. Look at the homeless population, gun crime, rocket high national debt, law and order for the safety of citizens, war in every corner of the world.................
EVs will get cheaper as a domestic supply chain gets built out. The Koreans will come out with the first cheap EV in the US. The benefits of EVs without destroying the domestic industry with Chinese imports.
I want one, badly, but, in Ontario, Canada, a base Model 3 costs $50,990 CAD, with a federal incentive of 5k deducted after all fees and taxes have been added. That makes it too expensive for me, especially since I don't drive much.
When new EV SUV prices are avg in the 30s and charging times are below 7 mins and there are minimum 600k charging outlets that will be critical mass for EVs. We're a long way off, too many EV makers want to make profit of non standardized battery packs that would be swappable in under 5 mins if standardized
Millions of Americans do want a Tesla electric car but the 2 main factors are cost and charging speed. We live in apartments so we have no home charging. We're happy to go to a charging station but it needs to be fast, under 10 minutes.
A survey of many people came out this month, of people who intend to buy a new car, 60% intend to buy an all battery electric car. That sounds right.
Which country?
As shown on an Autoline Network video, the bottom of the door seal of the Zeekr X, that you can't see unless the door is open, says "Designed in Gothenburg, Sweden", LOL. But Volvo is Chinese, even though Volvo designs all their cars in Sweden and does a lot of work for Geely as well.
I just did a quick search on car prices in the USA. I found 10 IC cars for under $23k MSRP. The cheapest highway-legal EV I found was $27,500 MSRP. The cheapest IC car was $18,100. And I'm retired, and don't pay taxes, so I get no tax credits. As for the price of gas and maintenance for the elderly, I drive about 1,000 miles per year. I'll likely die before the car needs anything but gas and an oil change, and maybe a battery. EV's are for those with jobs, people with commutes who use a lot of energy in their lives and drive a lot every day and on trips. I go to the grocery store every 2 weeks, and to a club meeting once a month. BTW I've owned 3 EV cars, starting in 1989, and I've been getting around on a tiny electric scooter. I'd love to buy an EV, but the cheapest one available, after factoring in taxes, costs roughly between 25% and 35% more than the cheapest IC car available. That's the actual prices I find for the available vehicles, and it doesn't include the price of an EV home charger or the installation. And I can't afford to buy a used EV, because if it had a problem that cost more than about $2k to fix it, it would break me. I keep hearing that EV's are as cheap as IC vehicles, but they simply aren't. I just looked and did the math. And now the government is slapping on very large EV import tariffs. The numbers don't lie. So until EV's actually do sell for as little as an IC car I won't be buying one.
I'd like to see what the actual questions on the poll where.
3 other reasons:
They are too quiet;
They don’t smell;
I can’t piss off my green neighbors.
For me there was range anxiety, but I think the EV charging infrastructure has grown to the point where that is mostly a non-issue and will only get better. Battery anxiety is a close second. If I buy a used, out of warranty EV, am I going to get stuck with an unusable battery before I feel like I've gotten my money's worth out of the car? How much will a replacement cost and can I even get one? For me, a compact EV would be perfect for everyday driving. I could get some free charging at work, maybe all I need so my gas bill would be 0, which is very attractive.
I would argue that those saying they do not want an EV, are the poor folks who got absolutely screwed at the last ICE dealership that sold them a vehicle. So many current vehicle owners are so upside down on their current auto loan they are literally stuck and too embarrassed to admit it publicly.
Too bad, because buying a vehicle direct from Tesla is a dream. Unfortunately, the wholesale resale value screws the Consumer as usual in America.
We need a new "Cash for Clunkers" program and we should call it "Cash for Polluters" trade in your old ICE vehicle for a down payment on a new EV.
@EnriqueThiele
With high price of vehicles and skyrocketing auto insurance, a large proportion of income is needed for vehicle ownership and rent is out if control as well.
I thought the Ford Mavrick cool until all the recalls and price hikes, then Ford took away the standard hybrid for turbo eco boost which I do not think will last 100k.
If EV are good let the market do its work. No more special payments or tax incentives for them.
@244col
Sure, just as soon as all the subsidiaries for the fossil fuel industry are removed so it is a fair fight. Google it !!!
what is an ICE dealership? You're aware that Toyota/Ford/Chevy etc Dealers also sell EVs, right?
@TOP5RAPWEBSITE
ICE manufacturers are bastardized versions of true EV makers like Tesla and Rivian. ICE manufacturers have a legacy of product obsolescence and fighting against safety regulations. Where as Tesla would never design in product obsolescence and there have never been a safer vehicle than all those made by Tesla anywhere in the world today.
Google it and see the light.
ICE Dealerships have one goal in mind to extract as much money as possible from customers.
For me, right now, it is : Apartment, no garage, no easy or affordable access to charging. Don’t drive enough to where the purchase price of an EV would be balanced by gas & maintenance savings (currently 12 year old car, 50+ mpg)
50 mpg 😲 what do you drive?
@@GlenisRetiredNZ Prius plug in hybrid (bought it first year it came out) . Sadly I don’t get to charge the battery often (it’s kilowatt hungry and takes forever, so when I had a garage, that was the only way I would really charge it, that and the few free destination chargers in southwest ohio) lately it’s been all gas all the time. But even with all gas, hybrid engine still averages 49-53 mpg overall, even at 12 years old.
As an American, I can say anecdotally that these are the reasons I hear:
1) They'd feel more comfortable with a plugin hybrid first as they get some of the benefits of an EV, but no range anxiety
2) Apartment living with no charger and no clue where to find one
3) Range anxiety in general as they drive out of state often
4) Cost - many own USED cars they purchased in the $5K to $9K range, and there are no used EVs yet in that price range, and the ones that come close, they have anxiety about whether or not the battery is about to die b/c if it does, the value goes to zero instantly.
5) They live in the middle of nowhere, don't want to spend money on a home charger, and have no idea where to find a charger.
EVs have NOT hit price parity...
I don't know where these pumpers get their numbers. You guys know we can do math, right?
For certain segments…
Price parity of a new mid sized BMW or Mercedes, maybe, but that's about it.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 People like musk, don’t ever buy something like a Renault Clio, or a Fiat panda.
Instead, they buy a bullet-proof Mobster-Mobile…
I am an American. I don’t own a EV, but I am looking at them.
Here is what I hear.
1) They don’t do well in cold. Reduced range.
2) They don’t do well towing. Reduced range.
3) Lack of charging stations. There is one Tesla charger and one distribution center in NE Washington.
4) Range anxiety.
5) Cost. EV Cars are coming down big time. But EV pickups and SUVs not so much.
6) Inflation. Most people are hurting with the costs of goods and services. It’s not just EVs that are suffering. New ICE manufacturing are suffering as well. Money is tight.
7) Reliability. Guys that can adjust a carburetor or do a valve job on dad’s old pickup are just naturally wary of new technology. Probably like a mule skinner was wary of the ICE tractor his neighbor bought in 1900. It takes time…. How long from the 1st tractor started farming until the last Mule or Percheron was parked? 20 years? 30 years? The Germans were still using horses in WW2.
I did the math. I can charge a Tesla in my garage for 7 bucks. It has a 150k warranty on the battery. And they range up to 1050 HP. And AWD etc. what’s not to like!??
I own diesels, V8’s, tractor, excavator, etc. my fuel bill is…..atrocious. I worked in the oilfield for 8 years. They don’t even send me a Xmas card. I think the self sustainable EV market is the future. And not just for cars. Power tools, motorcycles, RVs, boats, snowmobiles…… Lithium IS here!
Ride your mule if you want. It’s ok. But at some point you’re gonna wake up and smell the coffee.
Power outages due to weather aren’t uncommon in the US and Canada (mainly rural). Gasoline generators are much cheaper than solar and battery backups, the time it takes to charge isn’t relative to gas fill ups. The distance you can drive is much less. We drive longer distances regularly in rural communities. Cold weather has an impact on batteries. That being said I’d be all in once the new batteries arrive that allow for fast charging equal or better than gas fill up, the CATL batteries that aren’t affected by the cold, and I can drive as far but ideally further than an gas car which sounds likely in the next couple of iterations of battery technology. However one big concern that many people have is that there’s a concern that if you buy todays model that in 2 years the newer ones will be so much better that it would be like trying to sell an iPhone 3 when iPhone 10 just came out. The technology needs to mature and stabilize for a while
What they fear is that it may actually turn out to be a really great alternative to ICE, and they will miss the addiction to gloom and doom.
Hahaha. You are funny indeed.
I was open to idea of EV until I drove one. Bland, boring and clearly made to be toy, not proper car. I won't be spending my money on inferior product I don't want personally. For the record, 1st EV I drove was Tesla Model 3 Performance. Drove long range model 3 and Model S after that. Experience was same on all of them, inferior product and experience.
As stated in other comments, #1 reason why EV sales are lagging in the US is dealers do not want to sell them. GM Cadillac dealers are perfect example. I tried purchasing a Lyriq, paid deposit for order request in 2022 when first introduced, never got a call, never got any response for status after almost 2-years. Recently tried purchasing directly from dealers in Southern California with GM offering "Ultium Battery Promise" rebate of $7,500 or if eligible, Federal EV Credit of $7,500. Every single Cadillac dealer I contacted refused the Federal Tax Credit and said Lyriq was not eligible for GM Ultium rebate which contradicts what GM/Cadillac and IRS say. Dealers are either pocketing the money or lying to keep from selling EVs. #2 reason is waiting for NACS charging port. US has a real problem with public charging. Just last week Federal government report to Congress admitted that only eight charging locations had been added under IRA incentive that has been available for over two years now. States are in charge of the Federal money and they are not deploying as was hoped. Until these two issues are resolved, EV sales will be slow in the US. I have had EV since 2017 and have not purchased any gas since that time. I also have not had any repairs/maintenance other than fixing flat tire. I will never purchase ICE or hybrid but have hard time convincing others to buy EVs. Sad but true.
I’m American and I have a Tesla model Y and love it. My other car is a Toyota 4Runner, and I love that too.
Do you love your partner or are you single with a pet cat or dog?
@@mikewallace8087 What do you love? Only your self?
As an American I'm going to make a few comments throughout this video and I will take them point by point. 1. You bring up price. I live in what would be considered rural america. The city has 20,000 and the total county has 50,000 people. I would say I and most of my friends are in the lower middle to middle class economic bracket. Of the people I know that would spend $40,000 or more on a vehicle, they are going to buy a large SUV. They are not going to spend that much on, what we would consider a small car. As for the rest of us, we can buy decent used cars or even small SUVs in the under $10,000 range. So having a small car that is not going to handle our winter snowy roads that cost as much as a large SUV that easily seats 7 and has full 4-wheel drive, is just not something most of us would consider.
Range is my reason to wait for buying EV
Get an Ioniq 6. Over 360 miles of range for under 50k. Equinox EV has 320 miles for under 30k
How far do you drive each day?
I just purchased my first EV last October. I'm in the Chicagoland are. I went with Tesla because initially I didn't have a home charger outside of a wall outlet. The nearest EA or EVGo is 20 miles away vs 3 miles away. I purchased mine used. Which I've done for every other vehicle I've ever owned. I think the cost issue isn't the same for those who are buying new but those buying used. With the tax credits from the feds I would be paying about another $100 per month excluding Tesla's low interest rates now. My current car payment is the highest I have ever had and I think for most folks it will be as well. Most folks will buy a new car with their tax return and drive them around for a year or two then rinse and repeat. I think that until there are more cheap used ones on the road it wont fully take off. Yes, I could afford my payment but if I think of my parents whom we're lower middle-class they wouldn't be able to.
Car insurance cost more for an EV than a regular car.
Some areas have Tesla insurance, I wish legal stuff was easier to roll out but it isn't
Too many totaled out by minor accident
@@raymondcanessa7208 wrong.
Wrong. For both my Nissan Leaf and Skoda Enyaq the costs are very comparable.
@@raymondcanessa7208 Evidence?
1. There is not enough infrastructure in the US. Very few chargers outside of major cities at least where I live, would be less of an issue, if most Evs could get over 400 miles, even in non-perfect weather.
2. Availability of reasonably priced Evs that are not Teslas. Most TVs are 20% more expensive than their comparable gas powered option.
With me, saying all that I am very interested in leasing an EV for a couple years and see how it is
A nicer way and more accurate way to describe American attachment to ICE is: Brrooom brrrooom cars have been part of their identity for nearly a century. So many Australians are the same.
EV range is still an issue for people who drive hundreds of miles. I know all the arguments that EV owners come back with: there's lots of chargers, you can take a 20 minute break now and then, have some lunch, etc. The point is, I don't want to be _forced_ to stop and recharge. I want to drive 250 miles out, 250 miles back and not be bothered with recharging. Once EV's break the 500 mile barrier _and_ are in the $30K range or lower _and_ are easily recharged, they will probably dominate new car sales.
That's realistic.
Even 400+ mile range would suffice.
The planet cannot afford ICE vehicles. They’re choking us to death. We must end fossil fuels of all kinds. Eventually, they must be declared illegal.
I just visited the Austrian inflation calculator. Big surprises, the Tesla Y will only my 3rd most expensive car. My 1988 Renault Espace and my 2004 Seat Alhambra had been with inflation corrected prices far more expensive.
I live in a condo. My HSA has not signed off for chargers to be installed here. If I charge at a public charger it will cost 2 to 3 times what it should if I charge at home.
I have a V6 SUV with a range of 420-550 depending on around town or highway. That range is way more than an EV has for range.
There are no chargers nearby. I have downloaded a few apps that have shown that chargers are not around me in any significant number.
When you lose range because of the cold, that is not something I don't want to deal with. Gas cars deal with a limiting of the cars range in winter but it's MUCH LESS than an EV.
WHEN an EV BREAKS (AND THEY WILL, AS A GAS VEHICLE WILL) EV's are much more expensive to fix with the diagnostic tools and for the cost of a motherboard or other type of board.
I am a single guy. If you honestly think I will drive a long distance and spend 30 minutes every time I stop to charge up my car, you are out of your mind. A trip I take from my house to my mom's in Ohio is 12 hours pretty much. If I had an EV with all the stopping it would be closer to 14 hours to drive there than the 12, I do now.
Can you go through all EVs in 30k to 40 k &what range each has photos if possible. Thanks for great content as always!
Find a car website in your country, like C|Net or Kelly Blue Book. Viking covers the earth so the availability and prices vary a lot.
It does not matter, eventually EV's will be the dominate form of personal transportation. I'm in Rural Nevada and every year there are more and more EV;s on the road. Slowly but surely the change is happening. We have Tesla Super Chargers, Electrify America and Ford Blue Oval in Winnemucca Nevada. EV Fleet vehicles are becoming more common also in the mining industry. EV's are getting better and better and they will continue to do so. We own a Lightening, a Model Y and a Chevy Bolt. No shortages of places to charge. Actually, I would rather charge rural than wait in line in the city. Change is engaged, no turning back.
Viking, Did you just say that you don’t own an EV?!? You don’t even eat your own cooking?!?
The problem is that gas is cheap in the US compared to most countries. If fast charging costs about the same as gas and they don’t have to wait to charge, most Americans don’t see the benefits of an EV. Plus all the negatively in the press people don’t think they are a good option now.
Point 3, range. I know and realize that people in city do not drive nearly the amount of miles in a day that people from small rural areas do. Living in a rural area, we are use to driving long distances. For almost 2 years, once a month we drove 140 miles one way, to my child's doctor. That is close to 300 miles round trip in a single day, every month. My wife's favorite grocery store is 120 miles, away. We go there about every other month. I know a lot of people that will pick up and run to Cincinnati or Columbus or such for a day trip and put close to 300 miles in a day. There are gas stations everywhere and you can be in and out in under 5 minutes.
For EVs to go mainstream in the USA, we need as many charging stations as there are gas stations. Batteries need to charge as fast as filling up the tank with gasoline. Batteries need to retain their potency for at least a decade or more. Replacement batteries need to be cheaper. The distance range must be as much or more as that of current gasoline cars. Price range should start at around $15 thousand.