Knitting with Slipped Stitch Edges How to do it and Why
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You are so organized in your explanation. Two times I paused to let my brain absorb what you said, then went on with no problem. I like your mad scientist attitude or isolating different variables!
I sometimes say that I am a Left Brained creative LOL.
All the questions, explained kindly and thoughtfully, without slowing down so much as to ever get near boring. Wow.
Mostly I worry about talking too fast LOL! Thank you!
Thank you Barbara for all the effort that went into this video. You answered my question too. Love the mad scientist in you :)
Yay for answering questions!
SO HELPFUL! I love this in depth look at the results of all the combinations of slip stitch edges.
I'm so glad!
This is so clearly explained, had no idea that there were so many variations on a theme, many thanks.
I had a feeling this would be a good one to watch. The open chain look is really interesting. Your mad scientist skills are fantastic and as always your willingness to explore multitude of ways to do same skill is amazing and appreciated.
I'm so glad you liked the video!
Wow! Thank you, mad scientist! That was incredibly comprehensive. Your effort will bear much fruit! Much appreciated. ❤️🙏🏼❤️
Glad you enjoyed it! I do tend to get a little over involved LOL.
Barbara, you have made this so clear. I have learned more from this 27 minutes of video than all of the minutes of video I have watched on this topic, combined. You are amazing at making things so clear so that we get an understanding to take to the next project. By the way, this is Stacey from your Tuesday Zoom classes. Learning more and more every week! :-)
Thank you so much for taking the time to share such kind words. And I am so excited to match you up with your UA-cam "handle", see you Tuesday!
Thank you so much for this video! I had looked at countless videos and articles to figure out why my edge stitch was loose, but nothing helped until you perfectly solved my problem at 7 min 30 sec :)
I love your experiment. So much fun! My grandma learned me to do the twisted beginning stitch, If you knit continental that works just fine. Thanks again for a learning experiment.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Amazing video!!! My favorite is purl wise with yarn in front then knit through the back loop. That open chain look is really cool 😎
I am still on the fence on it - but I was surprise how it looked!
Big big thank you! Your video is most helpful of all in the same topic. Never before I am more confident in knitting the selvage! From Sharon.
Fantastic! Thanks for commenting!
I love your mad scientist videos. Always very useful and informative.
Thank you so much for the video and answering the question first or last stitch stitch.
Keep them coming. xxJane
Thanks so much
Thank you Barbara! I love the idea of the swatches. So clear and organized!
I have to be organized because my brain is everywhere LOL.
You answered everything I wanted to ask. Thanks so much! There are just three words: You are amazing! 😊
Thank you so much!
Can I just say, ma'am, that you have brightened my day immensely with this video! Well, I just said it, and the monitor didn't crack, so we're good? Yup - that. I have had the loosey-goosey blues for forever, but now I understand very clearly that there are no gremlins in my yarn stash....Your methodical approach is so helpful and answered questions I didn't know I had....("I give UP!" is not a question., but it certainly is what I have said more times than I care to admit...sigh...)
Thank you again for helping me solve a frustrating problem! Please have a great rest of the day!!!
That is absolutely wonderful to hear. I hope that you find one of these techniques helps solve your frustrations!
I LOVE that you did this!
Thank you!
You are doing a wonderful job demonstrating all these techniques.
Thank you so much for your kind words.
Fabulous investigative knitting report! Thanks for all the visuals. My tip is once you pick a method, use it throughout the entire design. Consistency in the slip method used across the entire item will really make a positive impact regardless of which method you choose.
"Investigative knitting report" I love it! You are totally right about consistency . If you try to change from one to the other it looks all wonky.
Happy New Year Barbara and all!
Super interesting video, thanks so much for taking the time to do these experiments and showing us the results.
The V-shaped stitches along the edges look like crochet stitches and would be a great base to add on crochet accents (lace, for example)!
You are totally right - that is a cool idea.
Thanks for knitting up all those different swatches! Mostly you showed the edges, but the last example that had a basket-weave look, seems to look very different on the front of the knitting, too, almost like a frame. That could be interesting for certain applications, like a panel of a blanket. That one also would be easier to mattress stitch together in a seam because the purl bump is so clear, you need not dig around for it.
Hmm, now I'm gonna have to lay them side by side to see the edges from the front. I was super focused on the edge on view. I'll see if I can get photos and put them on Insta/FB
A great big THANK YOU! I am working with a pattern that has specified that the beginning of the rows should start with a slip stitch that is knitwise with the yarn in front. I just couldn’t figure out to consistently do it the same way, and yours is the ONLY video I’ve found that explains and shows it so clearly. Anyone the search results gave me either only showed it with the yarn held in back or it wasn’t the first stitch being slipped, where of course it’s much more natural to bring the yarn forward between stitches. I just couldn’t figure out how to bring the yarn forward and then where/how to bring it to the back for the next stitch which, on alternating rows, is a knit stitch. When you showed that on your video, I just wanted to hug you!
I am so glad I was able to help!
Very interesting experiment! I recently made a garter stitch scarf, kwise wyib. I liked the way it tightened up the edges
Yeah, you'll get the same look as with garter but it would snug up the edges. Good point in that wyib is good if you want that look but tighter edges.
Hi Barbara. From the bottom of my heart giving a Biiiiiiiig Thank you for the 6th one. I practiced and it came out well. Next I am going to try / practice your cresent shaped lace shawl.I looooooooov lace shawls too.. This is my first try as a beginner in knitting..Thank you for your blessed patterns
Solly 🤩😘😍😘😘😘
You are so welcome! I'm glad one of them worked for you.
So clear and concise, made my day.....Thank you!!
Yay! Thank you!
This video is fantastic. Thank you so much for making it. I always hated slip stitching. I didn't like the look of it with those bumps. Now I know why they are there and how to get rid of them. I love the knit wise with yarn in front. Thank you again...
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this amazing video. I enjoyed it very much. It will be very helpful in the future.
Fantastic! I am glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for this. The details and samples are so helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate the details and the comparisons. Good job.
I'm glad it was helpful.
I'm a beginner. This was very interesting and explained in a way that I understood, and have learnt from. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
As a new knitter I so appreciate this!
That's awesome to hear.
Barbara! me encantó tu video!! apart from the fact that I'm practising my English listening skills, I'm learning lots from your videos. Right now, in Spain, the economic situation is quite difficult, but as soon as I recover, I will buy one of your patterns to support your fantastic work. I haven't found any other videos that teach this technical details and they are super useful. Gracias, gracias y gracias!!! from Santa Pola, Alicante.
Thank you so much! I am glad that you are able to get something out of the videos even if it isn't your primary language. I've been working on learning Spanish but it will be a long time before I get to the making videos point LOL.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit You don't have to do videos in Spanish! just learn it for fun , it is a beautiful language. Buen fin de semana!
Wow! Excellent mad science project. Thank you for sharing this. I like how different combinations can end up looking similar. I prefer the chain edge look, but now I can get it different ways. I will be keeping this video as reference. At 23m35s you show the last “no purl required” option, which is a definite mind-blower. (Of note, when you restate it at 24m30s you misspoke saying purl instead of knit, but as long as viewers keep it in context they should know what you meant to say.) This whole experiment was so complex that I’m amazed at how you kept everything straight!
It would have fallen apart if I didn't have those little tags LOL!
Love learning the science behind the stitch… knit or crochet or machine knit…👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💞💞💞❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍
Me too!!
I'm watching this on 11-9-22 I want to say THANK YOU for taking your time for this demo. Well explained and very helpful. Just a nother "example" why I enjoy your blog. It's early, so here's wishing you're family a happy Thanksgiving
You're very welcome! And thank you for your kind words. Safe and happy wishes to you and yours.
I know you did this video three years ago, but very much worth watching
Thank you! I really try to make the majority of my videos what they call "evergreen" in that they will stay relevant indefinitely. I'm glad you liked it!
Thank you so much for your work on this!!
Thank you for appreciating it!
I'm a beginner and it's crazy how these little details make such a big difference.
I'm not and it still amazes me how much tiny changes have big visual effects.
This is such an awesome video!!
Thank you so much!!
Love it love it. Another reason to choose a knit vs purl, is if you work eastern mounting -- might change which is more fun. I work combination so how to do it may change a tiny bit. Love it. Thanks!!
You combo knitters are the Annie Okeleys of knitting LOL. Fearless and fun.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit 🤣 Or just rebels.
Thank you for all your trouble doing this to explain all this. I have a much better understanding.
Glad it was helpful!
My mother-in-law was knitting our new daughter a baby blanket. My husband learned how to crochet from her and taught me. Cancer took her 2 days before she was to hold her 2 week old grand baby. Ive been struggling trying to figure out the way she did her edges. Ive seen so many videos of different ways and i end up getting confused. Thank you for your dedication in explaining the look of each and how they’re obtained. You’re an amazing teacher. Cant wait to wrap our baby girl in a hug from her grandma💞 🧶
It will be a wonderful gift that is cherished forever, I am sure. I am glad I could be helpful.
I was surprised by how different all the edges were! Thanks for the info.
It really surprised me too.
This was great. I had a pattern that asked me to slip first stitches wyif, and especially as an English knitter with the yarn in my right, I just couldn't figure out how to do that. I ended up with the yib look. I'm going to do the last stitch if possible in future!
The purlwise slip and then ktbl was really interesting to me because the other purlwise slipped stitches looked very much like a crochet chain. The tbl one looked like the reverse side of a crochet chain!
I'm so glad the video was helpful!
Wow! Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
Very helpful, thank you!
Yay!
Thank you This is a great video 😊
Glad it was helpful!
This may be stupid of me but I’m knitting a blanket and slipping the first stitch purl wise to get a clean edge, with the pattern I’m doing my yarn kept getting tangled in my circular needles and this video solved my problem in 7.5 minutes. Thank you!!!!
I'm so glad I was able to help!
Love the mad scientist explanation.
Yay! Thanks!
Phew! A whistle stop tour, but it explains a few of my slipping issues 😁
Yay!
So helpful!!
I'm so glad!
Wish it would have been done in stockinette stitch. Good explanation for garter.
Brilliant thankyou
My pleasure!
Good information...
Thank you!
I have already watched this years ago and got overwhelmed by all the options. I am in process of seed stitch turban headband. The pattern says right side K first and last st through the back loop, then wrong side SL first and last st PW with yarn in front It is very loopy using bulky and size 10 needles. The rest of the band looks great. Both sides are loopy but the right side left looser than the right side right selvedge. Dunno how to fix it but it matters for headband because it is very visible. The interesting thing is it gives the option to have more or less room according to your head and face shape but after doing 3 I still would like to make it smoother looking so going to try some of your examples. Hmmm the st pattern and what you do on the second row changes everything. You did the same on every row I think. I am dizzy from all these and love you for your knit-engineering skills!!!
The number of variables can be absolutely overwhelming!
Thanks for this video; you helped me to determine that what I really want to do will work fine. I have directions that slip the last stitch kw with yarn in front and the first stitch of the return row is a purl. I can't figure out how to position the yarn for the first stitch. I think I'm going to slip the the first stitch of each row pw because that's what I'm used to.
That's the beauty of knitting, change it to suit your needs.
All real interesting thank you. I knit the last stitch through the back loop so my stitch isn't loosely goosey. And then the next roll whatever the pattern says. But if I'm pearling I pearl the last stitch regular. On a Totally different subject which blocking boards do you recommend? Until now I've been using my grandkids interlocking ABC foam boards.
I used to use those boards and would get frustrated when I wanted to put a pin exactly where the letters met the boards LOL. There are lots of different good ones - you can use the playroom floor ones that are just primary colors (no ABCs) or get ones that are custom to knitting. I like the ones that are flocked on one side because they seem to absorb the dampness better. But really, they all seem to preform about the same.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit I've never heard of a flocked board before. What is it and how is it different?
Who knew? Thanks Mad Scientist!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
10-23-21
Watched again, and saved it to my Notes, for future reference…I’ll never remember it all!🙃
Anyway, it was a fun video… for sure…💜
Bookmarks are great!
Love your video! I am trying to M1R between a knit and purl stitch but I cannot see the bar. It is at the beginning of a pattern where each row ends in sl3wyif. Any suggestions?
Thanks! The bar is always there, sometimes you just have to hunt it down. I don't know if will be any help, but I have a video on make ones you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/gOrVgRNZrWQ/v-deo.html
???? This helped me to some extent, but it was too much at one time so I will need to come back several times to absorb it all. I hate to complicate things but what are the effects (if any) if you are working in stockinette instead of garter stitch? Thanks for all the time and effort you put into what seemed to be a rather simple question but got complicated very fast. And I feel as if I just added to the problem. I like to see the chain effect. Especially if I am going to be joining the seams. Thanks for all your time and energy you put into answering these questions.
So here's the thing - I decided to do it on garter because you are almost always going to have some sort of garter like edge if the edge is exposed on a piece. Knitting stockinette from side to side with only slipped stitch edges is a recipe for curling. If you are knitting plain stockinette with slipped stitch edges with the intention to then seam it to something else - it doesn't really matter with it looks like LOL.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit Ah - Thank you! I had that exact same question. However, while the look doesn't matter, I find a slip-stitched edge much easier to seam. Also, there are some patterns that alternate stockinettte and garter in such a way that results in minimal, if any curling. So, on those, the slipped stitch edge is still useful. (I happen to be working on one right now - you might recognize it - Leftie with the Rainbow Reef set - I just cant do it all garter, so the larger sections I'm doing stockinette.)
Very cool. Good information.
I've got a question that maybe you can answer, why is it called right side and wrong side instead of front side and back side? I wonder what the reasoning was when that first came up. Things that make me go hmmm... Thanks :)
I think it is because so many different things can be called front and back. Like when you are making a sweater in pieces or more so a cardigan you'll have pieces that are labeled front right, front left, and then the back. So it would be tough to talk about the front side of the back and the back side of the front. Also, there are the instructions "slip with yarn in front" and "slip with yarn in back" which refers to where the yarn is held in relation to the stitch - with front always being the side of the work that is facing you - be it right side or wrong side.
That explanation makes perfect sense. Now I see the point. Thank you :)
When you slip the first or last stitch do you add a stitch to the cast in??
That depends entirely on the pattern. Some may have it already integrated in. Some you may be able to substitute without disturbing the existing pattern. Some may need to have the extra stitch added. I'm afraid there is no blanket answer.
I found that an added benefit to slipping the first stitch is that the slipped stitch is the last stitch in the bind off, leveling the bind off also. But after watching this, I slip with yarn in front to get that rope effect.
I am glad I was able to introduce something to you!
that was very informative, thanks BU NOW show me how to sew the two pieces together, please.
I'm afraid that I don't do a lot of sewing things together so I don't have enough expertise to make a video on that.
I am new to knitting, like only a month but I messed up on a swatch learning a stitch and figured out if I knit/purl every other row on each end it looks like a "V" on each end. I'm currently doing a scarf and added 2 extra stitches so I have a "v" on each side. I think this might be useful later in putting garment together for seaming. Will this cause the stitches to pull to much? I am more crochet oriented in my head so the "v" are easier to get seamless join on. So many questions in my head
There are mixed opinions on whether slipped stitch edges improve or mess up seaming. The thing about knitting is that you'll just have to try and see what works best for you!
Tons of great information but the mad scientist laugh?! 😈 That was the highlight.
LOL. We appear to be on the same wavelength. ;)
Do you have or know of a pull over sweater for a larger person. I can find all kinds of patterns that just haven't worked out for what I need it for. Hope you can help me.
I neither design or knit sweaters but I have a lot of designer friends. One of them designs lovely sweaters for plus sized women and you can find them here: www.ravelry.com/bundles/plus-size-49
To the point of edges with a decrease and therefore not being able to slip the last stitch,,,the decrease can SOMETIMES be moved in one st to allow for a neat selvedge st.
Of course!
Hi Barbara, I have a pattern that tell me to: T2B - I know this means a cable of sorts (I am still learning to knit) can you please explain to me exactly how I would do this, thank you, Kind regards, Joan.
Hmm, I would need to read the stitch description in your pattern to know precisely what they mean by that stitch.
How do you purl on the wrong side in the middle of a row when you are on the right side?
I am afraid I really do not understand what you are asking.
What does it mean when it says slipping the frist stitch of every row
Quite literally exactly what it says. You slip the first stitch of every row from one needle to the other without working it.
Going to watch the whole video, lol but I'm wondering if I'm some kinda weirdo knitter. I NEVER slip the first stitch, or the last. It always looks bad. so sloppy. I find that normally I just maintain tension on that first stitch of a row and that looks great. I have found that with slippery yarns I'll give a lil tug on the working yarn after I've knit the first stitch of a row. And somehow I end up with perfect edges, with never slipping a stitch.
If you like the look of garter edges then that is the right thing for you. It really is just personal preferences.
First I'm hearing about it. Question is it just a know thing to do or do you add one to a pattern?
@@angelaholsapple8830 I think some ppl just do it automatically, not something that's in the pattern. I still don't slip the first stitch. Depends on the look you want too.
This video was good but did not answer resolve the problem of what causes a big, loose, first stitch on the needle. Did I miss that somewhere in the video? Please advise, Thanks
I'm afraid I don't know what the cause of your issues might be. My suggestion was tinkering with the symptoms I'm afraid.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit ok thanks. I still enjoyed the video. 😀
I have a question. My instructions say:
Row 3 FL, p, k, yo, k8, k p FL
Row 4 k2, p1, k to last 3 sts, p1, k1, slip 1
Row 3 is the right side, Row 4 the wrong side. All odd rows start and end with the FL. FL instructions read: first and last stitches of the Row. Knit the first stitch, slip the last stitch as purl, yarn behind work.
I'm assuming I do not slip a stitch at both ends of the row.
Because of her instructions to begin with a k, again I assume I knit before the purl at the start of each row, At the end of that row I purl then slip my last stitch as if to purl, w/ yarn in back. (Very uncomfortable with this)
Is that correct? It actually makes a bit more sense to me after writing it out. The FL at yhe beginning and end of the RS rows through me.
Second question, I'm striping this, how do I move the yarn up?
Thanks for listening.
Honestly, that is not a particularly standard way to write instructions and I find them confusing as well. I think your interpretation is probably correct, but if you want to be sure I encourage you to contact the designer of the pattern you are working from.
Ok so hopefully there’s no dumb questions but why do you have to slip at all and if you are slipping on either end then it doesn’t get worked and then it has to stretch bc if you don’t work it can’t stretch that far
You don't have to at all, it's just an option that some people like. You only slip on one row so it always gets worked on the next row and is only slipped one row, so it's not really a big issue.
So you don’t slip stick every row?
You cannot slip the same stitch every row or it would never get knitted.
Now that my brain is spinning..😆😆😆I like the nice braided edge...so to get that on both sides of my work I slip pw wyif on both sides every row..?
I suggest you might want to rewatch the parts of the video that show the edging you like and see how the technique is described. None of them are slipping both sides every row. If you slipped both sides every row then you would never knit an edge stitch and your work would do nowhere LOL!
Please show us how to start from the scratch
If you go to my tutorials playlist you will find a variety of videos that cover most of the steps of the knitting process.
I think slipping first every time would be easier on a scarf or blanket
I have a really hard time keeping neat tension when I slip the first stitch. It's really personal preference.
@@WatchBarbaraKnit that makes sense!