Brio magazine, "cancel culture" & christian "persecution" | Im in a magazine for cancelling
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I had this epiphany last month and wrote it to my friend:
"Most Christians claim to love everyone just the way they are. But that's not true. They love you and they want you to change. They want to fix you. That's literally not loving someone for who they are. They love you for what they want you to be."
No hate like Christian live amirite
I know I was gay from birth because I was born three weeks late and when the hell does a qu**r person ever get anywhere on time
"Am I out of touch? No it's the queers who are wrong." - Brio magazine, probably.
accurate
I'm going to steal that.
As a useless sapphic, the saying "alternative homosexual lifestyle" makes it sound way cooler than it actually is and I kind like it 😂 It's just so formal, it's hilarious
The fact that her book proceeds go to fight human trafficking reminds me of a phenomenon i uncovered a couple years ago when i was looking for a new job. I was in marketing and i hated what i did. I had worked in Amnesty International before and loved it, so i wanted to return to that type of work. Human trafficking is an area that i've always been very passionate about; it's a worldwide phenomenon that impacts hundreds of millions of people (either directly or indirectly). So, i started searching. This is something not talked about often, but the CHRISTIANS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING INDUSTRY. Like no joke, if you wanted to apply to a job, they ask if you are "a member of X Church" and then you need a letter from your priest/pastor/church. 9 out of 10 organizations (not an actual number but i'm sure it's close to accurate) are associated with a church. And if you do not belong to one of those denominations, THEY DO NOT WANT YOU! It's such a weird reality. I was dumbfounded. I think I found like 3-4 secular organizations during my entire search. Nothing wrong with a church wanting to fight against human trafficking, but when did Christians become the gatekeepers of this fight? SMH!
I’m so glad someone else noticed this because why is this a thing?!
Yes!! I have also noticed this!! And they focus so much of their energy on things like outlawing porn, or like running Christian-specific halfway houses for victims of trafficking that tell them that it’s ok, Jesus forgives them for their trauma.
And yet they actively fight to make sure any kind of sex work is illegal, making it 10 times harder for victims to come forward in fear of prosecution. They also fear deportation which far right Christians are very much in favour of, so they fear either being locked up because of sex work or locked up because they are illegal.
Can’t help but wonder if it’s because they want to be able to convert those that they help if they aren’t already their particular brand of Christianity? Or even more insidious then that, only helping those that are their brand of Christianity? Seems odd that they only want people that subscribe to their religion working for them otherwise.
I used to work in violence prevention in the southeast and its basically a way to divert funding from secular community orgs because "there is already an organization getting funding from the state/federal govt in your local area" and they get to control the narrative. The non-religious-based research suggests that MOST human trafficking is for other forms of labor (farm work, domestic service work, construction) and is not just pretty white girls getting sexually exploited. (Not to say that sex trafficking is not an issue!! It just (more commonly in the US) looks like underage marriage (hi fundies!!) and contract violations and wage theft (hi andrew tate!!).)
Also, I didn't know that the "gay bad" part was in Leviticus and I am dying. Not only is there a whole thing later on in the Bible that tells you to disregard Leviticus, that book/chapter is home to such goldies as: eating fat bad, touching unclean animals bad, ripping your clothes bad, drinking in church bad, eating pig/rabbit bad, eating or touching a whole list of bad stuff, going to church within 33/66 days after giving birth to a boy/girl bad, having period sex bad mixing fabrics bad....just so much. Thought that might give you a chuckle. You're great 💜
Also, SSA actually stands for “Sibling Sexual Assault,” which is about 3x more common than parent-child sexual assault. “Same Sex Attraction” is Mormon word salad to justify being raging bigots.
It’s also used by the transphobes to use queer people as a shield for their shit.
The entire book of mormon is cult and conman nonsensical word salad
52:43 - this triggered such a vivid memory for me, jfc.
I also grew up in an evangelical family (and was homeschooled on top of that, so it took a lot longer to realize how fucked everything was), and this reminded me of a messed up incident that happened when I went to a fundie summer camp.
The camp counselors and organizers thought that all the campers - *children* ranging from 8-13 - needed to learn what it felt like to be "religiously persecuted" for being Christian, and we needed to learn how to always "stand up for god". They devised this game that was held at night, with all the outdoor lights turned off across the whole property (and it was a massive compound in the middle of nowhere Canada), and we had to pretend we were in ancient Rome. The camp counselors were Roman soldiers and the kids were all "Christians on the run". We all had to hide and try not to get caught by the counselors (who had massive flashlights while we had nothing), and if we were caught we either had to denounce god or be subject to a "punishment" that could be whatever the counselor decided. And if you put up a lot of resistance, like they encouraged us to, then you'd be dragged to the mess hall where half a dozen counselors would scream about how worthless you are and that you need to give up god, all that jazz. If you didn't, one of the things they did was throw flour in your face. This ended up happening to me and I got flour directly on my eyeball and scratched my cornea. I had to walk myself to the nurse station (alone) and found a bunch of other sobbing kids there and a very pissed off nurse who looked like she regretted taking the job.
The self-righteousness and audacity of people like this author lol. They literally care about nothing other than control and their own inflated egos.
I'm so sorry this has happened to you. That's terrible, I can't believe this.
That's sick, they really were all like "yeah, time to traumatise some kids just because"
The summer camp I went to every year as a kid did that once too. A lot of kids were crying by the end of it and probably had nightmares about it. It was so fucked up.
My church camp played that game but it was KGB instead of Rome and you didn't get punished for losing the game, you just went to "jail". It was still weird but one of the few fundie things that wasn't traumatizing for me. It really sucks that your camp took it so wildly too far
You put so much work & emotional labor into these videos & I just want you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated. I appreciate all the work you do & hope you're getting rest & such too 💜💜💜
well now i'm crying.
I appreciate you
@@ReadswithRachel 💜💜💜
"Handicapped or Gifted" really made me laugh because I think they were trying to say 'physically disabled or mentally disabled' but because using "opposite" was their intention they made them either seem like if you're not physically disabled you're mentally disabled OR if you're not physically disabled you're GIFTED?! It's a gift from 'god' that you don't have a disability! XD At least that's what I get from the written text. 😅
Oh SHIT I didn’t even think of it that way but you’re right! Oh my god every time I think I’ve seen it all from them, another layer of YIKES is unearthed
EXACTLY what i thought, too! And as a physically disabled person, i also thought, "Wait...i'm ungifted? Awwwe" LOOOOL
My fundie school 2nd grade teacher: "ln public school you're not allowed to have a Bible"
Me In public high school walking past the Bible club on my way to Just Dance club
16:18 I remember someone wrote in to Susie asking if pets go to heaven, since they "don't have souls" - and Susie said "why not? It's a simple thing to do, and God wants us to be happy in heaven. I think I'll see my dogs there." But somehow letting in a gay person is inconceivable?? (I'm not trying to make comparisons between animals and people, and I don't believe in heaven, so to me the admittance qualifications are moot. But even reading it in the early 2000s, I felt Susie's was an incomplete answer.)
In our family I have break my magazine and my sister's had brio...
One thing my entire family noticed was that the articles of the boys magazine were short and didn't have much substance and in the women's magazine most of the pages were text. It's as if women were expected to read and think more 🙄
you are exactly right!
I used to want to be a Brio Girl... unTIL that Jonas Brothers article. I wish I had a copy of the multipage letter I wrote them. Teenage Amber went OFF lol. In the end it was for the best and I guess I should thank the JoBros for taking their shirts off (whilst still wearing tank tops) on stage 🤣
AMBER IF YOU EVER FIND IT LET ME KNOW
Also, youre my hero
@@ReadswithRachel 1. you know I will 2. YOU'RE MY MF HERO! This whole situation has me so angry!!
If there's any kind of group Focus on the Family belongs to, it's a hate group. They are the kind of organization that makes you so angry you get lost for words trying to describe the depths of their depravity.
i absolutely agree. They created Family Research Council, which should be considered a hate group.
5:38 i'm a Brazilian and i was so shocked bc sometimes i think i forget how much these trips happen to the regions more up north and targeting indigenous communities. that sucks, specially when we have our own brand of nationalist evangelical fundamentalists lol and many flavors of fundies in general. guess they welcomed imperialistic tendencies ami right.
I will say (as a queer disabled person) that (at least here in the Netherlands, I can't speak on accessibility in the US) the whole "well there are only so few wheelchair users" is absolutely a thing. There has been some improvement with public spaces lately, but there is still a lot to be done, and when it comes to housing, those on lower incomes can get a benefits supplement, according to your rent and income, which doesn't cover service costs, which includes a lift, making a €800 flat without a lift more affordable than a €500 flat and having to pay €100 for a lift, which is just wild. And you can only get a semi-adapted flat on social housing if you're elderly and fully adapted flats are way too scarce. Anyway, side tangent aside, wow that's fucked up, thank you for putting in this work.
Part of me is like YAS QUEEN you’ve made it, and the other part of me recognizes that this must feel really fucking weird, so I hope you’re doing okay.
God, she's literally mad at your for reviewing her book. That's all. She's the one that got her feeling hurt. I'm sorry you're having to deal w this shit.
-gets one bad review- is this.. cancel culture?
Something that has struck me between this video and the previous videos about Jessie Minassian is her insistence that feminists hate all men, and being raised fundie, I definitely heard constant talk about how I should fear and hate (non-fundie) men. More Christians have told me men are dangerous in my life than anyone else. Growing up, I wasn't allowed to listen to Britney or Christina or any woman expressing her own sexuality, but I was allowed to watch SVU with my parents at age 8 so I could "understand how the world really is."
"Someone said mean (true) things about my opinions! I'm cancelled!"
OH MY GOODNESS.
I remember the Know That You Know article, and proving to myself that I wasn't gay because I agreed to. I cannot tell you enough how relieving it is to hear that another queer person remembers it and got out. That's so wild and heartbreaking. We're deepdiving into Brio, Breakaway, Brio & Beyond, Clubhouse, and Clubhouse Jr for our queer exvangelical comedy podcast, and I am doing reseach for the episode right now. Do you remember what issue that one is in? There was another one in clubhouse that was pretty rough and was christian persecution fanfiction about math at school being changed I'm trying to find too but (luckily I guess?) it's hard to find on ebay. Thank you so much for making this video and congrats on finally being a Brio Girl!!!
Lol thank you I’m so excited to finally be Brio’s IT girl 💁🏻♀️
So I never got my hands on any clubhouse as a kid so I wouldnt know about any articles from there, I’m so sorry. I wish I knew what issue this was from but I only know what the screenshots show, and I was able to grab them off different places like Twitter. Maybe put a call out on there and see what you can find?
Glad you’re doing a podcast on this!
@@ReadswithRachel ah no worries! thanks for responding!! what issue was the homophobic Know that you Know article in? (for citing purposes)
hot take: there IS a heterosexual agenda, HQ at Brio. I’m a new subscriber and love your content!! I really appreciate the time and energy you take for this!
When you mentioned columbine and Rachel it made me realize something about something that happened in middle school. We had “Rachel’s Story” come to our school and something always really bothered me about them coming to a public school. They traumatized pretty much everyone there and were basically shoving beliefs onto students attending a public school. This was like rural public school in the south. They really had no right to force students to listen to all they said and showed.
I appreciate you. I didn't read Brio, but I knew it existed... The Focus on the Family I took part in was listening to Adventures in Odyssey and the FotF broadcast that played before it. My brother and I would listen to it together on my little radio... sigh. We are both working through all of that in our own way. Please take care of yourself, Rachel. I'm really enjoying watching all of your videos.
Thank you so much for watching. Big hugs to you and your brother.
So random memory while watching this video.
My mom and I watched dancing with the stars for a brief period of time, and one this I remember DISTINCTLY is how Sadie Robertson was framed on that show (obviously at the direction of her parents) vs how other teens were framed/featured.
Sadie was 17 when she was on the show and they could not stop constantly mentioning her purity/virginity/modesty, all that shit. It was fucking weird and kinda gross and like WHY!?!?
When Bindi Irwin was on as a 17 yr old, none of that was mentioned, ever at all. No mention of sex or sexualizes or rather *not* sexualizing her. 14 year old actress from the hunger games was on, again no mention about what she was or wasn’t doing with her no-no parts. 15 yr old boy? Nope Nothing.
Why is it only the girl from the fundy family is the only one who can’t go an episode without someone (her parents) talking about how she isn’t having sex and has to be modest and don’t sexualize her. I think the hosts would only comment about things like the routine or her outfit being approved by her dad.
I don’t think I’ve ever been more uncomfortable about how a teen girl was being featured in my life. (Except looking back at the way Britney Spears was being treated by the media, but that’s I’m retrospect, this was happening fucking live.)
"even our favorite ice cream" It's true, I still can't look at a pint of Gold Medal Ribbon without crying because of that one time someone told me they didn't like caramel
Sending thoughts & prayers your way
Btw, lol, legally we do want "protected class status," which just means that bigotry against us is likely so there are (finally) some laws protecting queers, like marriage & employment protection (coughs*unenforced*), so that means we are a protected class in US Con Law, but that just means protected to achieve equality, not special privilege. It's a standard constitutional term, but sounds different out of context.
I was gonna comment but then Rachel cancelled me and nOW I CAN'T COMMENT I'M SO UPSET
the way authors keep crying about being "cancelled" sigh 🙄 it's tired
The term has utterly lost meaning because theyve conflated it with "i did something and people didnt respond the way i wanted them to".
New sub here and boy does all this raise my hackles, especially "James Dobson." I remember when I was 7 or 8 I found my parents' copy of "Dare to Discipline" and I was fascinated. We were not a fundie family but this was in the early 80s when Focus on the Family had pushed into mainstream spaces, hiding their cultishness behind the popular genres of self-help and family discipline. See, I was a very advanced reader for my age, so I read, and re-read, different parts of that book. Even at such a young age I could tell something was very wrong about advice telling parents to LIE to their child and refuse to have conversations about WHY certain decisions were made, as well as disagreeing with "corporal punishment" aka abuse. I was also insightful enough to recognize my parents might try some of this stuff, so I was going to fight knowledge with knowledge. Whatever they attempted based on Doboson's advice did not last long, at all, which thank all the gods big and little because I'm ADHD and autistic - something not confirmed until I was well into my 30s.
Many thanks to you from a fellow Floridian for speaking out about not just bad authors but about the deep harm fundies do. I can't imagine what it's like knowing you come from experience and I'm sorry you lived that, but I'm grateful for your willingness to tell the truth and speak up about this systemic abuse that goes all the up into the highest branches of power (as we sure know in this state!). All the best to you and yours!
tbh you SHOULD sue her for libel if you can that would be iconic
Ughh those gross Focus on the Family magazines. I hear ya. I was raised fundie and your make up is stunning. I super appreciate these videos. It makes me feel less alone with my anti fundie views now. Thank you.
So glad to hear 💜💜💜
I've been going through all your fundie related videos and it's crazy to see how fundie beliefs/rhetoric is so commonplace for too many Christians. It's really showing me how invasive a lot of it is. My mom forced my sister and I to convert to Catholocism when I was 8 or so, and I slowly watched her, especially as an adult, get more and more fundie-like in her beliefs, which was ironic since a lot of fundies hate on Catholics 😂
She made me read "She Said Yes" about Columbine. She encouraged me to go to Catholic sex education classes, which were very male centric and extremely anti-LGBTQ+ without explicitly supporting conversion therapy (but certainly skirting it). Needless to say, the Catholic faith for me was super traumatic. Toxic in similar and different ways from a lot of fundie faiths.
Authors like this one need a reality check and to stop playing "victim". Christianity has historically been one with a high body count, so like...no. You're not under attack.
I got Clubhouse Jr, then Clubhouse, and then Brio growing up, but I don’t remember anything in Brio. I honestly think it was because nothing in it was ever more extreme than what I was getting from my little k-12 Christian school or my church or my biblical literalist parents…
I'm sorry you had such a rough time about this tbh, I'm sure queer people who were interested in that book appreciated your effort though!
What an incredible/poetic day to find out about this though, April fool's lmfao how utterly appropriate
also the christian persecution complex bleeds right into conservative persecution complex, at least in my experience. White conservatives truly think they're the most oppressed people on the planet
oh for SURE the christian persecution complex and conservatives crying about everything go HAND IN HAND, they're rooted from the same place.
14:00 I want to recommend the book “The Miseducation of Cameron Post”, as well as the movie. Both are brilliant and touching and worthwhile. It’s about a teen lesbian who is growing up in the Midwest in the 90s, and her experience in a conversation therapy school. I’d love to see you review the book on your channel!
“They don’t want to swallow”??!! Plz 😭
True, some boiz prefer facials
Focus on the Family, PureFlix, martyrs, the Left Behind series. That certainly was an era to grow up in.
The way she absolutely fucking nails it for like a split second with the “then you’d be telling me my existence is wrong” and then immediately goes right back off into nonsense land
oooh okay I read the columbine book by this journalist who talked in depth about Cassie bernal and her affect on the community despite the lie of her story, but as a non ex fundie I haven't ever seen it in a place outside of that book. it's interesting to know how deeply that instance affected the Christian persecution complex as an ongoing event
It’s not a complex when it’s literally happening to millions of people all over the world
I used to get Breakaway as a kid. I wasn’t forced to read it per se, but I did just out of curiosity. I thought it was cringe as hell even then, I’d describe it as that sort of “yeah I skateboard, snowboard, listen to alternative but also bro…Jesus” and the articles were pretty much just interviews geared at hormonal, emotional teenage boys about how to not yell at your teacher in front of the class or how to avoid the temptation of pre-marital sex by only hanging out in the living room with the lights on and parents home.
But in seriousness, I am so sorry you're having to deal with this garbage. As someone else with an ED, I'm sending a lot of supportive thoughts your way. Please try to remember that whatever that voice is trying to tell you is wrong and BS and is only speaking to you because of this dumb jerk whose kink is fake persecution. 💜💜💜
The thing that this article prove is how in our society some people, who have privileges, feels entitle to their voices being heard, how they assume that their opinion and belief should be imposed in every spaces, and give that for granted. While other need to beg to exist, let alone have a voice, or a platform to spread it.
I'm a queer momma of 3 wonderful boys ages 15,19 and 23.
I'm also married to a man who understood me for 14 years...
but as of late I'm alone and saddened.
I'm also enraged that you are not being treated properly. ..
I adore you, your content and your queerness. 💕
Please never stop being you.
thank you so much! hugs!
Actually protected class status is something that is and should be wanted for the LGBT+ community and is what they have in Canada. The term itself "protected class" might sound weird to an American audience because it's been slandered for 20+ years by conservatives in media, but all it means is a group of people with a demographical identity that requires specific legislation placed into the legal system to prevent their systemic discrimination. The same is true of people with disabilities, discrimination based on race, religion etc. These are all protected classes. CHRISTIANS themselves fall into a protected class status as no one can legally discriminate against them based upon their religion.
And I thought that my religious upbringing was fucked up.
Religious trauma, amirite?!
Yo, Brazillian viewer. You don't have to apologize for your sister's actions. But, like, Brazil is the second most religious country in South America. We know who Jesus is, bro. So, missionaries, please, stop coming to the Amazon rainforest and leave our Indigenous peoples alone! They are already going through enough with all the illegal miners who are poisoning their water thanks to that Bozo of a president I didn't vote for. If you want to help them, donate money to the many organizations trying to bring them stuff they need, like FOOD.
Ughhhhh this magazine. Didn’t expect to see someone I like talking about it but so glad you are!! Thank you for all the work you do
Oh buried trauma activated with this one!
Solidarity my friend
Here for you my friend! 💚
ok so let me get this straight
the definition of cancel culture is "facing the social consequences of my actions"
Apparently!
Oh my god the little virginity pledge forms... I wasn't raised fundie but I was raised Christian (I've blocked so much of it out but I think we were methodist?) and holy shit so much of this is familiar. I remember having to sign a virginity pledge in high school. Even as a kid I thought that shit was weird and I distinctly remember being really uncomfortable while signing that thing
Oh man, I got Brio and Brio and Beyond AND went on one of those shitty trips to Panama. This was a blast from the past indeed. So many awful memories wrapped up with all of that. I'm from the UK, so I think a bit of the political stuff went over my head, but it truly warped my thinking. I followed the read the Bible in a year thing at the back for three years...and the guilt when I missed a day! Yeesh, what a trip.
Ooof, I also got Kenneth Copeland's comic book for years too. That was fucking awful. I have now completely deconstructed and am an atheist and very happy to be so.
Omg hi fellow former brio kid!!!
it is quite impressive how many people i see screaming out of their lungs, saying they are being silenced. like, get a grip.
I was listening to you read the excerpts about queerness and this would have fucked me up so bad and so permanently if I had been exposed to any degree of this as a kid. I am so sorry you had to live surrounded by this nonsense dear lord
14:05
Ah yes cause I’m aroace I should’ve been born with Barbie doll anatomy.
I'm ngl as an ace dude having barbie/ken doll anatomy would literally be a dream come true. i don't need any of this shit so why do i have it
My dad, a Lutheran, has literally tried to tell me that "Christians are more persecuted than the Jewish people". As if it were a contest, as if Jewish holidays (I know that's not the world but I'm seriously too dumb right now) weren't centered around remembering horrible things that happened, as if no other religion was persecuted, as if no *people* weren't persecuted, the gay (I'm a lesbian) and people of color communities were as "persecuted as them". As if they are persecuted at all.
To say I was pissed was an understatement.
Not the word* please excuse the errors
I grew up fundie and I was not a reader of Brio, but I think that's because girls (females under 18/unmarried) wearing makeup was discouraged due to vanity and "brother stumbling yada yada"
I remember reading and absorbing that magazine, too.
Oh man this unlocked a memory. i remember loving Brio as a Christian kid 😬 i didn't realize that it came back...... that's unfortunate
Hello, from Brasil. It's too late.
The episode where Rachel cancels herself LOL
We all got cancelled, too! What a tyrant!
I got an ad from the anti-vaxx, anti-LGBTQIA+ (and probably racist) fundie/conservative organization "Heritage Defense" in the middle of this video. 🙃
Good old fundies, such experts at only being able to see themselves as persecuted, and no others.
The amount of emotional labour that this woman has forced from you is wild.
21:18 maybe they should follow their logic and start only printing the magazine in Chinese or talking more about Indian issues, rather than only focusing on the ~4% of the global population that identify as American
I read a little bit of Brio magazine, but not much- possibly because I was raised mainstream Protestant instead of Fundy. The only thing I really remember is that my Mum didn't seem too impressed with it.
The work it took you to get here is truly amazing. I’m so proud of you, Rachel. You’re growing and not taking any shit, and it’s inspiring to see. 🖤
You keep saying Christian Fundamentalists or Fundies, but I’m hearing what I know to be the experiences of Mormons in your descriptions. Is there overlap or are Mormons/Fundies synonyms?
(Genuinely curious and mildly confused, not questioning your and other’s extremely valid trauma)
Turns out there is overlap but I didn’t know that until adulthood. I grew up being told in fundieland that Mormons are just a cult.
Mormons are a cult. The origins are wild and terrifying
There's a lot of overlap, but they're not synonymous. Mormons have some pretty specific beliefs. Though they share a lot of beliefs with fundamentalists, the overwhelming purity culture and gender roles, and the odd persecution complex (which, in Mormons, is a little more complicated), they're definitely not the same.
How one person harmful opinion should be prioritize over the safety and well-being of a all community of people who are already marginalized. She’s not being denied her autonomy and right to lives and belief what she wants by the state or by law, she’s not being push at the margin of a societal structure, nobody is threatening her life, but she feels her rights have been taken away.
Holy shit, I just realized I grew up semi Fundy.
Sorry you have had to deal with so much shit. I think you're fantastic and adorable.
oh my god i forgot about this magazine..
Wow that takes me back. Sassy was the tame one, and then they merged with Seventeen and Mom had to have a think about whether it was okay for me to stay subscribed.
I had not thought about Brio in 20 years...I'm surprised they're still making it. I wish I could say I'm shocked they're playing victim here. I used to read Breakaway instead, because at least in that one they talked about video games. I first read about Myst in Breakaway.
I also grew up very fundie, and I stopped going to church in the 90s. It sounds like not much changed. Good for you sticking up for yourself.
I know that I'm almost a year late to seeing this, but it's SO weird that she is SO pressed about your review. I thought major publishers loved it and "reputable" reviewers were praising it and influencers were ready to parade it around and blah blah blah??? It is really bizarre that one review should get her so upsetti spaghetti that she wrote a whole-ass article about it.
Here's a comment as sacrifice to the algorithm gods and I hope you get some of the UA-cam premium money as I have consumed hours of your videos in the past 2 days (and will continue to do so)
Same.
I read Breakaway as an adult to see what it was. There was one article bashing the song Runaway Train by Soul Asylum. The song was made to encourage runaways to come home and resulted in kids being found. They just misunderstood pop culture. Yikes.
I met Dobson a few times in college. He was influential to me at the time.
Omfg as an ex-fundie who inhales ex-fundie content on the daily this was WAY more triggering than I thought it would be lsdkjfsf;sjd (not a criticism toward your video, just the content of the magazine) (hella yikes, etc.)
Oof I’m so sorry, truly. I need to remember content warnings.
@@ReadswithRachel nooo no big deal, a lot of stuff is just too subtle to even warn for, that's on me lol
Absolutely the most dangerous thing in the Bible is the bit about Christians being persecuted, as the math on that becomes, not only will I face opposition, the opposition proves my rightneousness, underwriting every weaponized scripture
Bro what????? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at this point but damn
every time you think "wow, it cant get worse than this" i hate to tell you that fundieland will always one up itself.
I am way way late to this video but PLEASE PLEASE review the books The Abcs of finding a good husband and wife! My parents gave those to my siblings and I when we were in college and omg the cringe
I hadnt heard of this before!
12:50 What do they think made that kid throw a bottle at me in high school???
Omg I completely forgot this magazine existed… That’s a combination yuck/yikes from me 😮💨
Did they really set people with disabilities as an opposite of people who are "gifted?" Ooof. Big Oof.
I think I grew up fundy lol?? Or, I guess I still am but geez- the amount of things my church has done that you mentioned- yikes-
"There was a dear susie column" wait a second...
*one google search later*
in 2009 when brio went out of print Susan Shellenberger went on to edit the magazine Susie. Yeah, a magazine named after her.
I read Susie magazine and i regret it. It wasnt forced on me, it was recommended to me by a friend. I was already christian and slightly conservative but the most harmful beliefs I had came from that fucking magazine
By her own beliefs, shouldn't all this be "God testing her" or some other bs? Sorry, I'm agnostic. Love your videos though!!!
2:08 Seventeen and YM.
fundies LOVE martyring themselves after receiving criticism. a bad review is as bad to them as losing a publishing deal.
Authors of the New Testament: living in a time of Christian persecution.
Author of YA Fiction living in the US: not living in a time of Christian persecution.
Criticism does not equal persecution.
A year old but one of the points made me think about my past self
I used to think that particularly modern feminism was about hating men and all men bad. (I really liked older, usually long dead feminists and would read their stuff) The reason why I thought this was because (1) I was chronically online (2) The people who I saw call themselves feminists, where only ever about hating men and painting all men as monsters
I'm not talking about acknowledging how men hold up patriarchy. It was legit equating rapist as a synonym to men. It was also common for them to argue that men can't be raped or SA'd in any way (even if it's anal) and that it was a woman-specific struggle. (They were also pretty transphobic now that I'm looking back) I watched one use a male commenter's rape story against him (It was child rape btw. They found it by digging through his comment history) and a bunch of other stuff. They would weaponize feminist arguments to defend their misandry. I have no idea if they genuinely thought they were feminists or if they were just using it as a cover
Then I grew up and realized that I was just watching a bunch of arm chair activists weaponize feminism to protect their prejudice. I'm not saying this is her. I was a minor. She's a whole ass adult. There is a good chance she's purposefully misrepresenting it, but that part just made me think of it
So all this to say: If you, fellow viewer, think that feminism is men bad and just about hating men, think about who represents feminism for you and ask yourself if they are really feminists (But doing this honestly also requires not being misogynistic, or at the very least, be willing to see it, acknowledge it, and account for where it might fog your view) Also maybe get off the internet for a bit and watch real life feminists advocating for real change. See what they say and how they act. Don't go in trying to disagree
Just wanna say I adore you - you go girl!!!
Hi Rachel,
Do you have your background story posted somewhere?
Hi there!
I don’t have a designated video where I talk about all of it in full. At least currently. I’ve talked about different experiences I had growing up fundie across different videos.
Oh my god I’m an idiot- you probably meant background regarding this specific thing that happened, not my personal background growing up fundie.
Yes, hold on, let me get the link for the other video.
Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/_7bSbIEXPV4/v-deo.html
Sadly the End Times persecution complex came well before Columbine, (we're talking mid to late 1800s in the US) but that doesn't make it any less harmful, hurtful and unnecessary, and I hate that you had to go through any of this.
A quick note: LGBT people do want to be a protected class. The term "protected class" is a legal/constitutional term that is relevant in hate crime and equal employment cases. If you are part of a protected class, it means you can't be fired for that reason. Like you can't be fired for your race, religion, or gender. Sexuality should also be a protected class so that people can't be fired for being queer. "Protected class" doesn't mean special treatment, it just means explicitly identifying a characteristic as something that someone cannot be discriminated against for.
Yeah someone pointed out to me that, in fundieland, we are taught from a young age that “protected class” is a bad thing. I didn’t even think about it while filming this, but y’all are fully correct.
It's not a sin to be tempted by homosexuality, but it is to act upon it ... Do I detect a closet homosexual?
Ah yes, the classic dichotomy of “disabled or gifted” 😂
"Disabled and Gifted"
Interesting...