My partner spotted me watching this video and said "oh oh, there goes the kitchen table!" Am definitely going to give paste paper a go at some point - one of my other hobbies is botanical art and I'm thinking of combining pressed flowers and leaf-vein impressions into some end papers just for fun :)
That turned out nicely! You always make everything look so easy lol. Years of experience I guess. I read somewhere (I think John Pleger's series on bookbinding) about the same process for book edges. It's basically the same process as gilding, except it said use pigmented ink (recommended to apply in thin layers with a natural sponge) then wax and burnish. I've done it now to a few books and they've turned out pretty good actually.
Someone has a nice video of this on YT. I've tried it and it is very hard to get the pattern just right. Need to spend some time experimenting with different sponges and paint. All the best, DAS
After ruining several endpapers when the paste reactivated during glue-up (despite waxing with beeswax), I've started treating my paste papers with a mix of beeswax, paraffin wax, turpentine, and linseed oil that I use for waxing canvas. It's much thinner and achieves a better coverage faster, and the papers absolutely will not stick. It does leave a slightly unpleasant feel to the paper, so I tend to buff most of it off when I'm done. Next time I'm making a batch of the mixture I'm going to make a small batch of just beeswax and turpentine for proofing paste papers (paraffin wax is 'slimey', and I'm concerned about the acidity of linseed oil).
Thanks for the video- can you tell me what paint/ ink you are using . I was thinking that I needed to use oil based inks for the cover but perhaps water based on the inside 🤔
I have another video on wastepaper where I talk about this. But the short answer is generic acrylic paint with cooked wheat starch paste (9:1 water to starch by volume). I add enough acrylic to make the mix as opaque as I want. No set rules. DAS
@@DASBookbinding thanks for that, I had always assumed that acrylic would return to liquid if it got wet. This means I would not have to wait for a week whilst my ink dried!! 🙏🏻
Me again, one more question: if I were to make patterned endpapers with ink or watercolor, would you recommend treating the paper the same way, with beeswax?
Few years ago I've discovered a diffirent method of finishing pastepapers. It requires use of simple varnish composed of gelatine, glicerol and potassium dichromate. It gives less of a satin finish, but on the contrary to wax it is really friction resistant. Plus when you glue the paper to the cover or whatever it softens ever so slightly and you can control the sheen with a material that you press against it. And it is quite water resistant due to the dichromate content
@@emanuel1.168 the key is "anymore", I've aquired a solid portion back in the day when it was easier to buy. For what I understand it hardens the gelatin- like in gum bichromate printing technique. I've tried out the mixture and it works perfectly well. Dichromate is very toxic but nobody is gonna eat it and its bonded well by the gelatine. People nowadays freak out over even mildly irritating substances, it's ridiculous
I think you mean the edge of the textblock rather than the edges of the boards. This is more to do with oxygen interacting with acidic paper. Humidity will make this worse. For a book you are making, sealing the edges by either colouring or gilding will reduce this. For books you already own you need to make the environment as stable as possible. An enclosed bookcase is a good idea and I keep my best books in a glass fronted bookcase. Keep the humidity below 60%. No direct sunlight of course. Maybe enclosures like a 510 minute slipcase or phase box? Hope this helps. DAS
They only had one other pattern, a crocodile skin design, and it didn;t work out as well. I've tried making my own with lino cut but it's hard work! All the best, DAS
Hematite is a common material for burnishers and could be used for this. It is softer than agate and can scratch easier but also easier to polish again. All the best. DAS
It's a mix of starch paste and acrylic paint. It's just a generic cheap brand from the local discount store. For this I think it was about a 1:3 mix of acrylic to paste. I was a bit heavy on the acrylic on these because I wanted to finish up some tubes:) All the best, DAS
@@DASBookbinding yea, i use soap on my marbling papers while i am burnishing its with a pieces of a felt. Also I have send you a messeage from Instagram, could you glance the message
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The bird pattern looks very nice. I've used a similar method to lightly wax my marbled papers, but I used a candle.
Thank you for sharing. I learn something new every day.
Ooh! This is gorgeous; thank you for showing us! I've been wanting to paint paper, but now I REALLY I want to do this style. :)
My partner spotted me watching this video and said "oh oh, there goes the kitchen table!" Am definitely going to give paste paper a go at some point - one of my other hobbies is botanical art and I'm thinking of combining pressed flowers and leaf-vein impressions into some end papers just for fun :)
so excited to see another video on pastepapers! I am keen to try them out myself. :D
And I love the beeswax burnishing!
I’m fascinated with the idea of the decorative roll. I’d like to make my own, using a paint roller and thin layers of cut craft foam.
Both papers are nice. I particularly think that the paper with the birds looks great. Enjoyed the video
That turned out nicely! You always make everything look so easy lol. Years of experience I guess. I read somewhere (I think John Pleger's series on bookbinding) about the same process for book edges. It's basically the same process as gilding, except it said use pigmented ink (recommended to apply in thin layers with a natural sponge) then wax and burnish. I've done it now to a few books and they've turned out pretty good actually.
Someone has a nice video of this on YT. I've tried it and it is very hard to get the pattern just right. Need to spend some time experimenting with different sponges and paint. All the best, DAS
That pattern is fantastic! I’m envious and off to the paint store.
I love this so much.
Oh my! That closeup at the end suggests to me that my paste is way too thick. My first attempt with the paste is 1/8 thick on the paper!
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if anyone else is looking for this roller I found an etsy store with this and others called patternedpaintroller
There's some other interesting patterns too. DAS
Thanks! I guess we'd want to be careful with the scale, so that we get enough of a repeat on the size of paste paper we want to make/use.
After ruining several endpapers when the paste reactivated during glue-up (despite waxing with beeswax), I've started treating my paste papers with a mix of beeswax, paraffin wax, turpentine, and linseed oil that I use for waxing canvas. It's much thinner and achieves a better coverage faster, and the papers absolutely will not stick. It does leave a slightly unpleasant feel to the paper, so I tend to buff most of it off when I'm done. Next time I'm making a batch of the mixture I'm going to make a small batch of just beeswax and turpentine for proofing paste papers (paraffin wax is 'slimey', and I'm concerned about the acidity of linseed oil).
Thanks Ed, that is really interesting. I'll look into this one day. Yours, Darryn
Thanks! It's quite useful. What about homemade book cloth? Should it be waxed?
I've never waxed my home made bookcloth.
Thanks for the video- can you tell me what paint/ ink you are using . I was thinking that I needed to use oil based inks for the cover but perhaps water based on the inside 🤔
I have another video on wastepaper where I talk about this. But the short answer is generic acrylic paint with cooked wheat starch paste (9:1 water to starch by volume). I add enough acrylic to make the mix as opaque as I want. No set rules. DAS
@@DASBookbinding thanks for that, I had always assumed that acrylic would return to liquid if it got wet. This means I would not have to wait for a week whilst my ink dried!! 🙏🏻
Sweet! Thanks for another instructive post. Do you or will you do marbling at all?
Only suminagashi. Would like to try one day if i find the time. DAS
I'm sorry if this has been asked/explained in other video, but is it okay to use regular office/printer paper to make paste paper?
Give it a go. I have but I found it to be weak when wet which means it rips easily. I got lots of missing corners.
Me again, one more question: if I were to make patterned endpapers with ink or watercolor, would you recommend treating the paper the same way, with beeswax?
I think I would to add some protection especially from moisture. But you don't have to. DAS
Few years ago I've discovered a diffirent method of finishing pastepapers. It requires use of simple varnish composed of gelatine, glicerol and potassium dichromate. It gives less of a satin finish, but on the contrary to wax it is really friction resistant. Plus when you glue the paper to the cover or whatever it softens ever so slightly and you can control the sheen with a material that you press against it. And it is quite water resistant due to the dichromate content
Thanks for sharing that info. Really interesting. I'll have to look into it. All the best, Darryn
Potassium dichromate? That's a *very* toxic substance; you cannot even get your hands on it in the EU anymore.
@@emanuel1.168 the key is "anymore", I've aquired a solid portion back in the day when it was easier to buy. For what I understand it hardens the gelatin- like in gum bichromate printing technique. I've tried out the mixture and it works perfectly well. Dichromate is very toxic but nobody is gonna eat it and its bonded well by the gelatine. People nowadays freak out over even mildly irritating substances, it's ridiculous
what can i do to prevent my books edges from becoming discolored due to water absorption while it is on the book shelf?, thx in adv.
I think you mean the edge of the textblock rather than the edges of the boards. This is more to do with oxygen interacting with acidic paper. Humidity will make this worse. For a book you are making, sealing the edges by either colouring or gilding will reduce this. For books you already own you need to make the environment as stable as possible. An enclosed bookcase is a good idea and I keep my best books in a glass fronted bookcase. Keep the humidity below 60%. No direct sunlight of course. Maybe enclosures like a 510 minute slipcase or phase box? Hope this helps. DAS
Those turned out beautifully with the roller. Better build a new rack for all the rollers you're going to have to buy now... :D
They only had one other pattern, a crocodile skin design, and it didn;t work out as well. I've tried making my own with lino cut but it's hard work! All the best, DAS
I have this vague memory of seeing a hematite burnisher somewhere. Is that only for gold leaf?
Hematite is a common material for burnishers and could be used for this. It is softer than agate and can scratch easier but also easier to polish again. All the best. DAS
What type of paint did you use?
If you look into his channel, there's a great video explaining the whole process so we can totally reproduce it at home :D
It's a mix of starch paste and acrylic paint. It's just a generic cheap brand from the local discount store. For this I think it was about a 1:3 mix of acrylic to paste. I was a bit heavy on the acrylic on these because I wanted to finish up some tubes:) All the best, DAS
Can you use this method to protect any type of paper?
I guess so. I hadn't thought about it. DAS
Should we use a burnisher after the beeswax?
I like the soft look without burnishing. But it is also common to burnish after applying wax. Some people burnish without the wax too. DAS
@@DASBookbinding yea, i use soap on my marbling papers while i am burnishing its with a pieces of a felt. Also I have send you a messeage from Instagram, could you glance the message
You use that roller on paint to make faux wallpaper. So your using it almost as intended ^_^
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