Open Cell vs Closed Cell Spray Foam for a Metal Building?

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  • @PineyGroveHomestead
    @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +2

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  • @kinglonestar2760
    @kinglonestar2760 4 місяці тому +9

    Close! But that’s Dirty Dancing. Looking good

  • @terrylutke
    @terrylutke 4 місяці тому +9

    Tip..before you move everything back in, spray a coat or 2 of cheap white primer paint over the foam. The paint will prevent the foam from turning ugly yellow.

  • @publicEnima
    @publicEnima 22 дні тому

    can't compare close cell with "R-value" its not reallly an apples to apples comparison. different chemistry involved I would compare close cell to how much BTU of heat or cooling you can retain. 2inch of close cell would retain about 85% of the heating and cooling you put into the building. It would also help, if there was a vapor barrier before the tin, incase you dent the tin and have to replace a panel.

  • @richardbrookins5406
    @richardbrookins5406 4 місяці тому +1

    Spray foam has gone out the roof. They wanted more to insulate my barn then they did my house 10 years ago when I built it. Crazy, but it is legit. BTW the advantage of the closed cell foam is that it is non-combustible as opposed to open cell which must be covered because it will burn.

  • @Hjfvvdst
    @Hjfvvdst 4 дні тому

    My concern with the cardboard is.
    Sweeting behind the cardboard that would hold a lot of moisture. Rust or corrosion in that area would be very bad.
    I learned a lot from this video.
    Thank you for all the information.

  • @aaronburford5701
    @aaronburford5701 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video, content and commentary! Progress is being made at Piney Grove and it is wonderful to watch! Stay encouraged and keep pushing!

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much! One project at a time, we're getting there.

  • @jimbecker5675
    @jimbecker5675 4 місяці тому +1

    Closed cell foam also adds substantial rigidity to your building which you will notice when heavy storms come through. Edit: You did mention this later in the video...

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      We talk about that in this video. Thanks for watching.

    • @jimbecker5675
      @jimbecker5675 4 місяці тому

      @@PineyGroveHomestead Yup...my edit and your comment crossed. LOL There's a short video of my own closed cell install for the new 24x36x10 shop here on my channel. I did 2" nominal on the walls and 3" nominal up top, but got more than that in the end. Complete coverage...and the spray dude was an artist for sure. That was Nov 2022 and $9K for comparison. SE PA.

  • @alexanderknott3715
    @alexanderknott3715 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing! I’m intrigued by the use of cardboard to keep the foam from getting through the cracks. Any concern with the durability of cardboard? Do they ever use another material (like foam board) for the same purpose?

  • @rayfinnila6079
    @rayfinnila6079 4 місяці тому +1

    Glad to see you are advancing, Brad. Missing your Dad. He gave me a lot of knowledge about things here on the eastern shore.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      He's home now.....in a big workshop with his vision back....waiting for Mom! We spent some time with her today....she's doing good.

  • @tiramo36
    @tiramo36 Місяць тому

    I like the American diy
    Respect from Morocco ❤

  • @stuartkorte1642
    @stuartkorte1642 4 місяці тому

    Exposed close cell looks better than open cell.
    Looking at the 2-1/2 tubes and depth of foam, doesn’t look like 2” on ceiling.
    I caught that on first day of spraying and they went back and corrected. 30x50 metal shop, 12’ walls, 2” closed on roof, 1” closed on all walls in Wakulla County, fall of 2023, $7700. Happy with it.
    Too bad the room isn’t on other side with toilet and shower. Sure would be a nice work area come July/August.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +1

      When the foam gets on the tubes, it also expands there. He had a wire guage and checked as he went.

  • @muffinsmuffins8074
    @muffinsmuffins8074 2 місяці тому

    Answer 15:43
    Original estimate $6,300
    Then pandemic
    Prices jumped
    Same guy changed to over $10,000
    Then reduced to $8,900
    Mason $7,100

    • @adampark8341
      @adampark8341 8 днів тому

      😂 we all know why inflation has caused raised prices

  • @pedrofuster6458
    @pedrofuster6458 4 місяці тому

    Hi Brad, great video like always! It's always great to watch videos like this from a fellow Bay County resident. Regarding the structural integrity benefits, I should mention that closed cell SPF improves the wind uplift between 2-3 times and wall racking strength up to 3-4 times. This was one of the main reasons I chose to use closed cell on my steel building (after Hurricane Michael ). It makes a huge difference. Blessings and continued success for you and Deb at Piney Grove. P.S.: You can google one of the papers: The Use of Closed Cell Spray Polyurethane Foam to Enhance the Structural Properties of Wall and Roof Assemblies.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      I comment on that in the video! So far, I'm impressed with closed cell. I've got some other projects in mind for Mason!

  • @earlyriser8998
    @earlyriser8998 4 місяці тому

    Everything you said is true.
    Spray foamed our house near Houston. Closed cell on roof and open cell on walls of stick built framing with hardi plank. We did 3.5" on the roof and 3" on the wells. We did open cell on walls due to cost about 2/3 cost. I thought about fiberglass but everything you said is true....Fiberglass is much cheaper adds no strength, it is not a vapor barrier, adds no strength, and in the country it is open to insects and rodents. We also had to use baffles on the roof line break at the porch.
    Good Job Mason

  • @renitameares3838
    @renitameares3838 4 місяці тому

    That’s a beautiful building! We didn’t have room for the 30’x60’ building we wanted because of drain and septic lines so we settled for two 30x30’s and I am glad. One became a garage and the other my canning & freeze drying kitchen, extended pantry and mini gym. We did closed cell foam insulation in both and it’s the best thing we did. What a big difference it made for us here in Southeast NC.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like a great layout for you! We love the closed cell foam.

  • @richardschaffling9882
    @richardschaffling9882 4 місяці тому

    I had a 30x30 building put up and had it sprayed with closed cell foam but I did the whole thing with 2 inch living in Tn there was nobody who did it so the company came down from Kentucky .That was two years ago it’s not cheep and when the sun hits it you can hear the building move .

  • @rodgerneeb301
    @rodgerneeb301 4 місяці тому

    I priced it, I would like it, I have found that the price would exceed the price of the purchase price of the cargo container that i was looking to insulate. That is a no go for me.
    Expanded foam sheets as it can be afforded for me.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +1

      I totally get it! Maybe just do the roof deck with a DIY kit? Thanks for watching.

  • @JerseyRed
    @JerseyRed 4 місяці тому

    Brad, thanks for the information. I have the same type shed with 12' high walls. There are garage doors at both ends, but with south Texas heat it is difficult to work inside during summer. This video has motivated me to do something similar. Again, thanks and stay safe.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      The difference is AMAZING!! With a fan blowing, 90 degrees outside is very tolerable inside!

  • @av1204
    @av1204 4 місяці тому

    i have the exact same type of building with closed cell. Hang some large movers quilts on the wall. When it rains it gets so loud inside. Also mr cool mini splits seem to work really well too. If you want to insulate the big doors, there is a yt video that is sheet foam and magnets that works really good.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the tips! We love how the building stays cooler now...it's already 90 degrees in Florida!

  • @hoochdog8093
    @hoochdog8093 4 місяці тому

    Another great quality video with very detailed information.
    My condolences to you and your family for the passing of your father.
    Happy Mother's Day to Mrs. Piney Grove!

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Mrs PG is making zucchini chips from the garden today!

  • @Marine-wj4jv
    @Marine-wj4jv 4 місяці тому

    You can use limo tint on your windows. I live in TX and the limo tint on shop windows makes a world of difference.

  • @km4fsi827
    @km4fsi827 4 місяці тому

    A good friend of mine here did his shied the same as yours. it is about the same size and shape. but he went inside and finished it out to live in. it made a beautiful home inside at half the cost of a wooden home.

  • @georgewest2096
    @georgewest2096 4 місяці тому

    Another good plan.

  • @carmenmariacortesmarin2664
    @carmenmariacortesmarin2664 4 місяці тому

    This is going to have a big impact on the temperature in there, this summer. Congratulations on getting it done.

  • @urbanitesgarage3299
    @urbanitesgarage3299 4 місяці тому

    Very cool thank you for bringing us along very informative

  • @AdamDeal-KF0PRI
    @AdamDeal-KF0PRI 4 місяці тому

    i can guess where you parked a few things! very nice job they did! if it bugs you to bad on the color just get some cheep paint where your not gonna put up walls!

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  4 місяці тому

      Would love to paint it, but not in the time budget!

    • @AdamDeal-KF0PRI
      @AdamDeal-KF0PRI 4 місяці тому

      @@PineyGroveHomestead sometimes we gotta learn to live with it!

  • @Rubenac
    @Rubenac 4 місяці тому

    I was literally just searching this on UA-cam

  • @idaueding1825
    @idaueding1825 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @kathrynbraun2073
    @kathrynbraun2073 4 місяці тому

    😉 the movie was, “Dirty Dancing”, that had the line, “nobody puts, ‘Baby’ in the corner”…

  • @bobkelly5254
    @bobkelly5254 4 місяці тому

    Looks great! Can’t wait for the house to go up!

  • @bradjenkins932
    @bradjenkins932 Місяць тому

    Did they prime the galvanized first ?

  • @behrdog11
    @behrdog11 3 місяці тому

    Nice job well worth it.

    • @PineyGroveHomestead
      @PineyGroveHomestead  3 місяці тому

      I has changed the building! Here's a follow up video: ua-cam.com/video/eUE4a69f1Uk/v-deo.html