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1984 NLCS, Game 5: Cubs @ Padres
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2010
- Chicago Cubs 3 at Padres 6, F -- It was the decisive Game 5 of the National League Championship Series. The Cubs had posted the NL's best record that season, and they had stormed out to a 2-0 series lead. But because of an old Major League Baseball rule at that time, the Padres had the home-field advantage and would play the final three games in San Diego because then the advantage simply shifted every other year. So the Padres had proceeded to win the next two at home, and now there was a full house to watch this final act that would send someone completely different into a Fall Classic.
There's something beautiful about baseball playoff games in the afternoon. What's more, this game was on a Sunday afternoon, which may have gone up against the NFL second game on CBS or NBC that day. It didn't matter. This game was far better than whatever NFL game was on at the time. One of the best NLCS ever played.
The premiere game of the late slot that day was the Raiders/Seahawks AFC Championship game rematch in Los Angeles. San Diego had one on LA LA Land on this day. Ironically, ABC would get shown up the following night as their 49ers/Giants Monday Night Football game was outviewed by Farrah Fawcett's made for TV movie The Burning Bed on NBC. You win some, you lose some.
Weaver calls Sandberg "Ron Sandberg", was a bit of a gaff. This game broke my fucking heart. My dad had been a fan since the 20's..... Never saw the team win a series. He died in 01......
Dave Crockett I feel your pain Dave. Lee smith will forever be a bum. Hall of gamer???? No way
LMFAO it wasnt even CLOSE to one of the best NLCS games you idiot
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 Damn i remember the burning bed
The man who drove in the winning run in this game, Tony Gwynn, died today (6/16/14) at the age of 54 from cancer. Gwynn, who won the first of 8 NL batting titles in 1984, was undoubtedly the greatest player in the history of San Diego sports, regardless of the sport. Having grown up in San Diego in the 1980s (I was born and currently live in Baltimore, but grew up in San Diego), getting to the World Series was an enormous thing for the city because not only had the Padres never had a winning season prior to 1984, but the Don Coryell Charger teams, which had twice been to the AFC Championship Game (in 1980 and '81), never got to the Super Bowl and were in decline, so the entire city of San Diego rejoiced when they had a team finally reach the championship round in a major sport, and it was Gwynn and Steve Garvey that got them over the top. They couldn't beat the Detroit Tigers in the 1984 World Series, but just getting there was a great achievement for that organization.
R.I.P. Tony Gwynn.
It's extremely ironic that the greatest player in Padres history died exactly 30 years after still, the greatest achievement/moment in their history (coming back from 0-2 deficit to beat the Cubs and go to their first ever World Series).
I'm not sure I agree with that. I think what the '98 team did by beating two 100+ win teams in the NL playoffs, including the perennially powerful Braves, to get to that year's World Series, was a greater accomplishment than beating one very good Cubs team to get to the '84 World Series. The two things that set the '84 accomplishment apart was that it was the first time they ever made it to the post-season (and only their second-ever winning season), and that they clinched the pennant at home. (Both of their 1998 post-season series wins were clinched on the road.)
But it is sad that, in the 30th anniversary of their first truly great moment, the Padres lost the two figures most prominently associated with the franchise, Jerry Coleman, who died before the start of the 2014 season, and Tony Gwynn.
Well, as for what would have happened in the '84 World Series if Kevin McReynolds had not gotten hurt, I don't think anything would have changed, because the Tigers were, far and away, the best team that year. In fact, the 1984 Tigers were probably MLB's greatest team between the 1975-'76 Reds (another team managed by Sparky Anderson) and the '98 Yankees. I think they were even greater than the '86 Mets or the '88-'90 A's were, because of the caliber of competition during the season.
The question many people will always have about the '84 NLCS have was how the umpire's strike may, or may not have affected the outcome of the NLCS. I think it would have had the same result. And here's something. The Padres' comeback in the '84 NLCS saved MLB from a problematic situation as to where the outer games of the World Series would have been played had the Cubs held on, because there were still no lights at Wrigley Field in 1984. I believe they would have been played at Comiskey Park, but others have said that they would have been played in either St. Louis, Milwaukee, or maybe even Cincinnati, which would have meant that, had the Cubs won, they would not have had any home games at all, so the Padres saved MLB from what could have been a terrible predicament.
And I agree with you that this was, and still remains the greatest moment in San Diego sports history, and for one simple reason. The Padres won the National League pennant at home in 1984. The '98 Padres won their NL pennant in Atlanta, and the Chargers advanced to their only Super Bowl in Pittsburgh. The other memorable championship moments in San Diego sports history don't even involve a San Diego team. Those moments being the 1975 NCAA championship at the decrepit San Diego Sports Arena when John Wooden retired as a champion, Super Bowl XXII, when Doug Williams became the first black QB (and the only one until Russell Wilson in Super Bowl XLVIII) to win the Super Bowl, and when John Elway finally won the Super Bowl for the first time in Super Bowl XXXII.
So now do you root for them O's? I love my Orioles, but as stated before I wanted the Padres to win this and the whole kitten kabootle, but Detroit was just too strong, and Goose should've walked Gibson.
Actually, I'm an impartial observer, as I don't root for any team. There are those I follow closer than others, but I don't actually root for any team. For me, good, clean competition is what it's all about, and from there, let the beat team on that given day win.
And in the situation you're referring to, Dick Williams was going to intentionally walk Gibson, but Gossage overruled him. In the end, it wouldn't have mattered, since had the bases been loaded, the next guy up probably would have delivered, and they weren't getting anything off Willie Hernandez, anyway.
I'll never forget this, listening to the game in my basement on AFN in Germany. Even on the radio, you could hear the crowd. They were LOUD. Still my favorite Padres game of all time, even though we all knew back then that nobody was going to beat the 1984 Tigers.
Yeah. Tigers wire to wire. Team of Destiny. Hard to beat a Legend in Sparky.
I was lucky enough to be there that day, and I could barely hear myself talking to my buddies. All of us were a mess 'cause we'd slept in line the night before waiting for tickets. We were down 3-0, but for some inexplicable reason, everyone stood up when we came up to bat in the sixth. It's as if we all knew it was our time to shine. It was incredible! We didn't sit down for the rest of the game and what a game!
Love the fact that after the final out, the broadcasters didn't say anything for a couple of minutes. Just the camera catching the sights and sounds of the celebration on the field and the fans in the stands. No commentary. Wish broadcasters today would take a page from this and do the same.
I agree
I've been a Padres fan all my life, and this game happened on my first birthday. I was crying then simply because my dad and uncle were jumping and yelling and celebrating like crazy. I'm glad I got to watch it now when I'm older, and can wholly appreciate it. My thanks to the poster.
Wait, so you were a baby and yet you have surmised that your crying was simply because of your Dad & Uncle? Maybe your crying was related to other factors. Maybe you were a little hungry....maybe you made a little wee-wee or a little poo-poo...or maybe you were just a baby. Your Dad & Uncle owe you a better explanation.
Nah, I was just 1 year old and that was a lot of yelling, screaming, and noise, lol. But I got it when I got older.@@foe11191969
Day playoff games. Those were the days.
Darn that 1994! Gwynn @ .390+ & w/200 ABs left. .400 was there. Screw the owners.
Omg yes on day games, especially if you weren't in school or it wasn't a night before school and u had off the following day! I was in seventh grade when the Padres won and I vividly remember their last two wins of this series! The Padres will never again equal the level of importance when it comes to the acquisitions of Garvey, Gossage and Nettles! Those three made the Padres and gave them their identity! Gwynn was sensational, but San Diego doesn't win the pennant without those pickups! Veterans are so key when it comes to making a franchise not accustomed to winning a winner! I actually believe the '84 Padres don't have a peer in that department
@@bernieudo4399 Gwynn would have easily hit .400 that season and I also believe the Expos wouldn't have had to wait on a world championship until they were the Nationals (2019)! Montreal was 74-40 and we're obliterating everyone! Expos win that World Series hands down in '94
@@bradlewis6514 The White Sox were the best team in baseball in ‘94 & Frank Thomas would have won the triple crown!
Yep!..no doubt! now it's all about making big money and prime time ratings..Even back then same thing
I watched this game(series) live as a 20 yr old......I sat on my couch for hours afterward....stunned.....just like the rest of Chicago.
FUCK SHITCAGO 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My father got my brother and me interested in baseball, so from 1974 until now I love watching baseball games. This particular one has a special memory for me because I've watched the Padres endure seasons of futility, and just that one winning record in 1978 (finishing 4th in the NL West). My brother and I watched this NLCS at my father's house and I remembered in Game Four I was so excited when Steve Garvey hit that HR off Lee Smith I nearly broke my mom's recliner when I jumped. (In fairness, we all shouted for joy, which caused my mom to wake up as she was preparing to work the graveyard shift).
So we certainly were happy when the Padres won their 1st ever NL Pennant. I listened to the radio replay when Jerry Coleman got to call the final out..... a one-hopper to Nettles.... to Wiggins..... AND THE PADRES HAVE THE NATIONAL LEAGUE PENNANT! OH, DOCTOR! YOU CAN HANG A STAR ON THAT BABY!!!
What can say about the war hero Colonel Jerry Coleman. They don't make m like that anymore. 🌟
God this was a season to remember. I was 23 years old, living on Chicago's NW side......right where I'd been the whole 23 years. I had a fast car, a hot 20 year old girlfriend, and a generous boss who was gonna give me one of his season box seats for the second W.S game at Wrigley. It was in the bag. My dad was still alive of course. He was so fucking excited. Sixty Two that year, dad had been a Cub fan his entire life. He had listened to the last Cub's World Series appearance on Armed Forces Radio from the Philippines at the close of WW11.....They'd lost.
We even loved the Cub's broadcasters, turning down TV volume and turning up WGN radio.
What a letdown to see em lose. My dad was so disappointed, and a bit of a hothead......He was yelling by the 9th......"TURN IT OFF...IT's OVER!!"
...Man we loved that team....could name every player, knew every player's nickname....Still can and still do. The Red Barron won the Cy Young that year.
Oh well....It's hard to explain to people what this team means to those that have lived them for generations. It's a family thing. Growing up near the stadium, it's all we talked about that summer of 84.....CUBS CUBS CUBS......And that defeat was all we thought about afterwards. Right up until late fall and early winter of 1985......because that's when it became apparent that we had a nasty group of BEARS on the other side of town....But that's a different UA-cam page
I'm sorry it didn't happen for the both of you, sir. Sutcliffe was as close to a sure thing as there is that year and I was shocked they didn't get the job done.
@@ronachten2902 You are correct about the sure thing comment. This is the one decisive game of a series where I noticed before the game EVERY talking head pundit or what have you was predicting a cubs win. I remember it vividly because even the people with padres ties who wanted San Diego to win were predicting a cubs win in game 5 because of Sutcliffe.
Magical season. Chills when i watch at the 1:55 mark. RIP to my childhood idol. Mr Tony Gwynn. YOU WERE THE BEST TONY!! There will never be another like you!. AKA Mr Padre and an Aztec4Life. I remember watching this game as a kid.
I second that on Tony Gwynn, especially that he played for them in his whole career, turned down more money to stay with them.
There were many years of poor padre teams tony gwynn was on but I always got to see the greatest hitter for 20 years hit 5 times a game. Never seen a player hit the ball hard at someone for an out than Tony and gold glove winner winner. With luck his average could of been a career .355
Started following the Padres as a 9 year kld that season. Been a die hard ever since. RiP Gandma Gigi
Durham's error in the bottom of the 7th on Flannery's grounder was big, but his mishandling Wiggins bunt in the bottom of the 6th was when the game changed.
You are right. That error really killed them.
Only it wasn't an error. Hit for Wiggins
@@kingrey465 it was called a "hit" but that was a play Durham absolutely should have made
Even if he cleanly makes the throw, Wiggins would have beat it out! Much like Mookie Wilson and Buckner.
Drysdale was one of the best pbp and analyst. He called the strategy when Durham was up in the 1st inning. Less than a minute later...POW!
Big D was very good and never got the accolades that a lot of them get.
RIP Tony Gwynn
The cisco kid wasnt a friend of mine Garvey and Dravecky are still alive.
Wow, I can't believe I found this video. This is game pretty much turned me into a baseball fanatic and Padres fan forever. Good times. Good times.
Gotta say absolutely loved the way Don Drysdale called a baseball game. Had a great cadence & a voice you could listen to All Day. Rare when a GREAT player can do play by play exceptionally well & Double D could fur damn sure.
Earl Weaver Reggie Jackson and Tim McCarver are all bumbs compared to Don Drysdale. 😁
I loved this season for the Cubs. God bless WGN for coming to my house in Louisiana every day. Great team!
Yes and I was at that game with my boss n his ol lady when Steve Garvey homered n sent the cubs home crying in their beers.they lost to the tigers in world series but that was the best moment as a die hard padre fan go padres forever n ever amen
Tim Flannery said the cubs had champaign on ice in the club house for all 3 games they lost and the padres got it cheap from m and love it when flannery said it tasted that much better having gotten it off the cubs.
Garvey, Cey, Lopes, Gossage, Nettles. Flashback from the 1977-78 World Series between the Dodgers and Yankees.
I remember this whole NLCS like it was yesterday. Then the dreaded World Series with the monster Tigers.We never had a chance. To me these were the last few years of baseball the way it used to be. Before the 5 minutes between each pitch. Before the big contracts. These guys on the field were really big kids playing the game we loved. Good times.
The first time is always the sweetest.
Padres were just happy to make the playoffs. Playing against the favorite, CUBS, coming back with 3 wins at home, first time a team ever did that in the NL. Then playing the mighty TIGERS. We didn’t care, we were just elated to be on the national spotlight. At least we won the only world series game in San Diego history, Jack Murphy Stadium. In 1998, we never won a single game.
I HOPE 2022 is the year. San Diego fans are the finest, just like the city.
Greatest game in Padres history. There hasn't been much in the way of champagne and fireworks since but I am confident that things will be better soon for SD.
I have a feeling you are in the same boat that '84 means more than '98 because it was that first run and y'all won at nearly the last chance in the game. As a Braves fan, I honestly think us winning in the last at-bat in the '92 NLCS was more thrilling than finally winning a WS title in '95. I think our fans got too comfortable and expected a title by that point.
@@davidmatheny1993 The '91 WS is still my all time fave. Was pulling for Atlanta all the way. See you soon, and hopefully in October. ✌
The ex Phillies on the Chicago Cubs 1984 roster is mindboggling. Dallas Green left the Phillies to become the Cubs GM and he started plucking players off their roster and minor leagues.
Porfi Altamirano
Warren Brusstar
Bill Johnson
Dickie Noles
Dick Ruthven
Larry Bowa
Richie Hebner
Ryan Sandberg
Bob Dernier
Jay Johnstone
Gary Matthews
Keith Moreland
Coaches - Ruben Amaro, Johnny Oates, John Vukovich
1:55:20 Great call by the late, great Don Drysdale.
Win or lose I'll still support my BELOVED Chicago Cubs & NO ONE ELSE!!!
Allen Confesor that's right
Allen Confesor Me too
Well F@CK YOU TO 😂👍
@@desnutz901 F@CK OFF
sutcliffe was obviously gassed when he walked martinez to open the 7th, and then after the durham error it amazes me that he didn't pull him with gwynn up with trout ready in the pen......
Gwynn had previously smoked a liner to left off Sutcliffe. Dumb move leaving him in there cuz Gwynn smoked another base hit.
I remember this day I couldn't get the day off but my boss let us bring a TV in by the time the game was over we had a crowd of cutomers around the TV it was awesome! After work I went straight down to the stadium to get in line for world series tickets. We spent the night in the parking lot. What night, I will never forget
84 was a magical baseball year for cubs in general. Cable TV put not just the loveable losers, but Harry Carey, into the homes of ordinary baseball fans throughout the country. People would tune in for the simplest of baseball reasons like hearing Harry say, 'cubs win' 'cubs wun' or watching Sutcliffe pitch. But after the ryan Sandberg game, more and more people caught cubs fever. When they won the pennant, the hopes rose so high. Then the 2-0 lead in the series and euphoria hit. Then all of us knew what loveable losers really meant. It was so cool to be in my 20's for this. I miss it dearly as baseball today is like a dying loved one.
I was at this game. Had the flu but still went. Incredible day.
Thank you! I was at game 4 (behind the plate in the upper deck) and was watching on TV. Though we had no chance vs. Detroit it was a wonderful ride to actually be in a world series!
Bob U.S.A. I remember watching those games at my grandparents house.Had there dog sitting next to me.Whenever the Cubs did something great I would cheer loudly and Augie dog would bark and root with me.The 84 Cubs were the best Cubs team for a long time.Go Cubs go.❤
Hey leadsled how can you say you rushed home from muddle school to watch this game. Because this game was played on a sunday. Because I grew up in chicago and I was at the bears game that day and that is when walter payton broke the rushing record....just saying
LEDs led is a moron with brain damage
Padres really need to go back to these uniforms again. Their current uniform and color scheme is so blah.
As a Cubs fan I completely agree with you 1,000 percent.
They did!!!
Aydeco They’re going back to a brown and yellow pattern, but it’s not these.
Because the Padres realized the colors are of poop and urine, literally.
Luckily they aren't as childish as some fans. Brown is back.
wow, I had no idea Don Drysdale was such a good announcer.
Don Drysdale also did play play with Keith Jackson in the 1970s. Keith Jackson would do innings 1-3 then Drysdale would do 4-5-6 and then Jackson would do 7-8-9. He also did play by play with Tim McCarver on an ABC Monday Night Baseball game in 1987. He also worked for NBC in 1977 and did NFL football with Dick Enberg.
@@essentialeugene Don Drysdale was gone from ABC come 1987. His last baseball assignment for them was interviewing the victorious Boston Red Sox in their clubhouse following Game 7 of the 1986 ALCS. Tim McCarver primarily worked with Gary Bender on Monday Night Baseball in 1987. web.archive.org/web/20190216094409/sabrmedia.org/databases/network-tv-broadcasts/searchable-network-tv-broadcasts/
He was also an announcer with the 😇 for years. Weaver Jackson and McCarver all sucked compared to Drysdale 👍
So many great Cubs losses to choose from! All of their big wins came before radio.
Before the discovery of fire, more like…
This was Sunday. Wonder if the SD Chargers were on the road, or played on MNF. Or if they had to change their schedule for this game. Say they played a AFC West team, Chiefs, and it was suppose to be in SD on this date, just change it to an away game and then play in SD, when the game was suppose to be in KC later in the year!
I watched this game live in Korea (we had American Forces Korea Network). Baseball was great in the 80s with a variety of different styles of play.
I remember this game I was 15 just started high school was watching screaming rooting for the Padres even though I was sick with chicken pox not good however huh????....nostalgia seeing Leon Durham's error huh in the bottom of the 7th eh???...what error was the worst his or the guy he replaced Bill Buckner????!!!..after the Series I got an autographed picture of Steve Garvey that I still have it said Thank You!
Sherry Hannah I was 16 in my junior year of HS. Lived and bleed Cubs baseball. I was on the phone with my mother long distance in tears afterwards, my older sister had no mercy and was taunting me while singing go cubs go lol. what are big sisters for?
Steve Garvey is all business.
Didn't really like Steve Garvey, but in my mind he had real class when he was being interviewed both win and lose.
Earl Weaver standing on what, a shipping box of cartons of smokes for the opening announcers' standup?
0:00-0:07.; Is there something wrong with the video, or, was the background/etc. supposed to be like this?
This one hurt bad. I can still recall the pit in my stomach I had for the next couple days. Heart dropped when it went under Bull's legs. Garvey. . . SMH. To this day, when I see the fan wave, I think of this dreadful day. I'm flying high now.
if we had had mcreynolds in their at centerfield then we would've had a chance. bobby brown didn't do anything at the plate with the padres and he was always coming up with runners in scoring position and then he would choke and either strikeout or have an infield popup. we could've won it but that one injury really hurt us. martinez at the plate really choked as well.
Brown was terrible and Mc Reynolds had a good season and was a big part of how they got there.
Wiggins is incredible in this game.
How well did Reggie Jackson get along with Don Drysdale and Earl Weaver? I read that during the 1988 ALCS when Reggie was working with Gary Bender and Joe Morgan, they clashed. Jackson was known to have an ego not only as a player but as a commentator as well.
He sucked anyway behind a 🎤
32 years late, but the CUBS are in the World Series! 2 "C"s - Chicago & Cleveland who've suffered so long. Shame only 1 can win. I'll NEVER forget Jody Davis' head down at the end - he did EVERYTHING he possibly could but had the painful last out - maybe the story ends better this year....
Carlos Guzman the story did end better this year the Cubs won the World Series in 7 games the seventh game took extra innings 10 but they won it the curse is broken
Jody Davis would have been the MVP if we won.
Love this. Any full San Diego Padres games from regular season? I'd love to see September home games as they are getting close to clinching division. Any full broadcast available?
Dream season for Padres. Are there any other full games from the 1984 regular season in San Diego, that can be uploaded? Maybe from visiting broadcast even. Phillies,Mets,Reds,Braves, Dodgers, Expos, Astros?? Any older footage that can be uploaded.. need memories of old San Diego stadium please
The Cubs didn't have a LHP in the bullpen at that time. Trout was a starter, he started Game 2. But, Frey was going to sink or swim with Sut on the mound!
I remember LMAO after watching the Cubs blow a 2-0 Series lead AND a 3-0 Game 5 Lead. But this was the Cubs after all!
The saddest part of the whole thing w/ Bill Buckner at the '86 World Series is that it was really John McNamara & Calvin Schiraldi's (w/ some "help" from Bob Stanley & Rich Gedman) fault that the Red Sox lost the last 2 games of that series. Buckner has become the ultimate scapegoat because his error is all that keeps being played in highlights when talking about the '86 WS.
Final score was 6-3. The last championship for any Chicago team, at that time, was 1963!
I love the Cardinals and always will, but this game, after coming back from two games down, turned me into a Padres fan.
Getting Soto will make a lot of people Padre fans.
It wasn’t enough for you that Ted Williams was born in San Diego? Sheesh. What more do you want?
Durham at 1st, only made 7 errors during the regular season in 1,265 chances.
Like the Gonzalez error in 2003. Only six errors all season but picked a hell of a time to make one.
Losing the game was painful enough, if you're a Cub fan. The shot of Leon Durham staying in the dugout to watch the Padres celebrate, makes it hurt more. He's stated in the past, that he wonders if the organization held the error against him. He's never been invited to any of the events where other former Cubs appear. I hope this changes in 2017.
Well, he hit a 2-run HR in the game, so, at worst that evened out his error.
maybe other former Cubs don't want him there for blowing it.
quite a game i was a big cub fan in 84 i was 18 iwill never forget that year
Steve Garvey brought this game with his Game Winning Home Run the night before against Cubs Closer Lee Smith!
Goose Gossage was so happy after the NLCS win.....little did he know Kirk Gibson was waiting to destroy him in game 5 of the World Series!
The game was already over with the tigers up by 1 before his homer and gibson didn't destroy anyone with the game winning destroying blow. Someone else got the credit for that.
“Let’s go after him.”
“That’s right! Don’t walk him. Hahahaha. Hey Roger…!”
Wow! No way the Cubs should have lost this series. Classic all veteran lineup and decent pitching. But when you leave runners on base, and make critical mental and physical errors, you lose more times than not. With that said, very exciting series and the Padres were the better team. It wouldn't be the last time the Cubs made the playoffs and collapsed. 2016 must have seemed lightyears away. The Padres won 2 N.L. pennats and unfortunately came up against 2 legedary teams in the 1984 Tigers and 1998 Yankees.
And lost twice in a row.
Turning point was walking Garvey to load the bases and padres took advantage and got 2 runs on sacrifice flies to make it 3-2 cubs. I think Sutcliffe gave up 6 runs on only 7 hits.
33 years later seeing this game still makes me misty eyed. Cub Busters baby!!!
Padres never showed up in the World Series. Cubs-Tigers, though outcome the same, a superior series.
Wait a minute the Bears made the playoffs and the Bulls just drafted Michael Jordan and then 1985 saw the Super Bowl Shuffling Bears win Super Bowl XX
It's awesome that you can hear the old organ playing. "Ladies and gentlemen, Danny Topaz on the Lowery Organ".
Those Padres uniforms were just so 80s. They were fun and unique.
Glad current day Padres went back to brown but modernized it. It’s a team with a unique color combo and design.
Definitely there was joy in mudville that day. Go Padres.
Almost thirty years and it still hurts.
GOOD 😂....FUCK SHITCAGO
Cubs were the better team..... but they weren’t counting on the best clutch hitter!
Very cool. Thanks. Too bad they don't have Leitner and or Coleman audio.
Jerry Coleman called this game on KFMB Radio
@@cjvoicegamer Yeah, who has those archives? That would be sweet to drop it over the television video.
@@chuckleslastlaugh4759 look up Nineteen Summers and you'll hear it there
Criminal that Garvey isn’t in the hall of fame especially when compared to the shit careers of many players who are in.
Maybe soon with the Veterans Commitee. He deserves it.
Durham whiffed on a ground ball basically sealing the deal for the Padres. However, what in God's name was Jim Frey thinking?
That sixth inning should've been it for Rick Sutcliffe. Then maybe Durham's error probably wouldn't have happened.
Keeping him in for the sixth was defensible, putting him out there in the seventh was sheer incompetence.
@@scoobycarr5558That makes no sense whatsoever.
5 of Chicago’s starting lineup in this game were ex Phillies (Dernier, Sandberg, Matthews, Moreland and Bowa).
man fre should of took sutcliffe out after the durham error , bad managing there
Durham’s muff of that ground ball changed the game ..and blew the chance for the Cubs ..ranks right up there with Buckner’s although Bs was in the world series ..
Painful even to this day. I was worried the Giants would do the same this year.
Leon Durham wasn't the reason the Cubs lost this series, it was Garvey he was a 1 man killing machine, it's disturbing how Ryne Sandberg who NEVER played in a World Series is in the HOF, but Garvey was a 10 time all star and played in roughly a half dozen World series games, IS NOT..
I think it had something to do with his HR Total. Who cares? So you have to get 500 HR to get in? Garvey wasn’t just a HR Hitter.He was a contact hitter. Like Tony Gwynn.
As a dodger he was 1 of the best hitters in mlb with six or so 200 hit seasons and had the over 1000 games in a row played streak which ranks up there at the top.
What I remember about this day was working as a food vendor and not selling a thing after the 6th inning. Also, being at the stadium to welcome this team back to San diego after game 2.
I would love to see the "stat cast" number on that piss missile Gwynn hit that almost decapitated Sandberg.
Although as a Cub fan it is painful to see this again, I am so glad to see the entire game posted if only to show the people that blame this loss on Leon Durham. Somehow people seem to forget what happened at 20:34.
EraserHead bet you're thrilled cause the Cubs finally won the World Series eh????!!!
Man, when will the padres be this good again? We need this, especially with the Chargers leaving to Los Angeles
Seeing how great san diego fans are it's a tragedy we had those spanos bozos 🤡 for owners. Saw the Chargers in 1960 in the afl champship game against the Buffalo Bills before the super bowl 1 so my disgust and contempt run deep with the spanos bumbs as the worst nfl owners ever. 👎
Forgotten fact-Cubs lost Home Field advantage due to no lights at Wrigley yet. First two games were to be in SD followed by 3 in Chicago. They wanted Friday and Saturday’s games at night, so Series was flipped.
False. They automatically rotated home field advantage between the divisions each year. 1984 was the NL West team's turn to host games 3, 4 and 5.
I've been debating in my mind which game was more painful. 1984 or 2003?? mmmmmmmm not sure
For me, '03 is much more painful, because that year's World Series was winnable. The '84 Detroit Tigers had too much left-handed hitting for the Cubs, unless Steve Trout became Mickey Lolich for a week (not likely)
Jason Richards
03 because they were in total control and at home 5 outs away
2003 was far worse. There was a possibility of a Cubs-Red Sox World Series, but Boston had their own heartbreak. If it had happened, that would have been THE biggest sporting event in history. Oh, well. The Red Sox revenge against the Yankees in 2004 more than made up for it.
@@davidlafleche1142 can't you imagine the cubs vs red sox in the world series? shit, the world wouldn't be ready for that to happen. yet.
Hearing all these Cubs fans saying it's sad that the Cubs lost but the Padres were going through a lot more and needed this more.
At least for Bill Buckner, the Red Sox still had one more game to play despite losing Game 6 to the Mets.
Leon Durham's error? That was worse because of his error in the deciding Game 5 (both LCS were Best-of-5 at the time), the Cubs went home.
This game should've been played in Chicago. It was heart breaking to watch as a Cubs fan.
Good point. 2-2-1 right? Cubs had the better record.
@@us-Bahn Cubs did not have lights and were forced to play 3 games in San Diego.
Game 5 played in full sunlight. Chicago sunlight not as good as San Diego sunlight?
@@us-Bahn Cubs ballpark, Wrigley Field did not install night lights until 1988 so they were not able to play any night games until then.
Unfortunately, that meant that the Cubs had to play 3 of the 5 games in the playoffs where they did have lights, (i.e. San Diego).
The first night game at Wrigley Field was on August 8, 1988. I remember trying to get tickets for that first but it was impossible. You either had to know someone or get very lucky.
Ironically, the game ended up getting rained out.
I understand all about Wrigley and lights. I get it. Game 5 was not played at night. Therefore no lights required. So why couldn’t the Cubs host game 5, especially as they had the better regular season record and therefore had home field advantage for 3/5 of the games?
The Cubs would be back in the NLCS in 1989...but some guy named Will Clark just went beast mode.
He's the Steve Garvey of the Giants.
If the Cubs and the Blue Jays had been in the World Series that year, half a million people would have died in the earthquake.
It alternated from year to year, same way the Royals had home field advantage on St. Louis in the World Series in 1985 despite the Cards having the best record in Baseball
Watching these old games I never saw is cool but depressing realizing eleven players are no longer with us on Earth.
Padres: Greg Booker, Eric Show, Mario Ramirez, Champ Summers, Alan Wiggins. Tony Gwynn.
Cubs: George Frazier, Scott Sanderson, Bill Buckner. Tom Veryzer. Gary Woods.
This is the best Cubs team ever. I love my Cubbies.
+hovelarde 2015 version may have something to say about that.
+bnegs521 a fluky third place team is NOT the best ever.
You said that after they got knocked out of the playoffs you NIMROD.
@ 1:30:42 Phillips words "...I don't think this commissioner (Ueberroth) is going to be an owners commissioner..." This sealed his fate with the owners, only a matter of time.
The 1984 Chicago Cubs: Best Cubs team EVER!!!
Bravo, Rick Sutcliffe, Leon Durham, Ryne Sandberg, Jody Davis, Ron Cey & Co.!
ChihuahuaboyDH
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Yeah Leon Durham the Cubs first baseman that lost the Series nice job
It's a shame you never see the fans jump onto the field anymore after a home postseason win.
Padres had a better manager, he took his starter out when it was clear he was done.
And of course, while Jim Frey had taken a team to the World Series before (the 1980 Kansas City Royals), Dick Williams had Frey covered, in terms of experience, as well. After all, Williams had taken the Red Sox to the 1967 World Series (and took a superior Cardinals team to Game 7 before bowing), and of course, won back-to-back World Series with the Oakland A's in 1972 and '73. In fact, those A's teams remain the only team ever to win back-to-back seven-game World Series, so Williams knew all about what it took in winner-take-all games, and it showed. The Padres were the third team he took to a World Series (only one other manager, Bill McKechnie, ever took three teams to the World Series). And he also built the Montreal Expos into a serious contender in the late 1970s.
1:13:20, and then their discussion while Dernier was at bat, about Super Slo Mo. This is from a New York Times article about the coverage of the upcoming 1984 Olympics:
Another technological advance is a new slow-motion replay system, dubbed ''Super Slo Mo'' by ABC and the developer, Sony Broadcast Products. Introduced on this year's Kentucky Derby telecast, it incorporates a camera with a higher-than-normal scanning rate and a videotape recorder with three heads, instead of one, to record at three times normal speed. The resulting slow-motion replay is of higher resolution and thus much clearer than the slightly blurred picture on normal, slow-motion replays.
Definitely this game. By the time Bartman caught the foul ball, we felt we would lose. 84 was a real hope.
I was 6 yrs old and I still remember this day as if it was yesterday where my dad had this look as if someone in the family had passed away.
Anyway, I would shit tears 5 years later :( .. fcking Clark
Who's the Jack-Ass now? WORLD SERIES BABY! CUBS 2016
Jason Zaremba well the Cubs won the Series
The gay, I mean, guy with the last name Zaremba questions diversity? WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS, CUBBIES, & YES I'm a lifelong fan, saw my 1st game @ Wrigley Field in 1983.
Coincidentally, I was watching The Alamo movie when I read your reply :D
Let’s hear it for Cubs’ one of a kind third baseman: Ron Cey!!
When Flannery's grounder went by Durham's legs,it was over.....BTW,Durham was
normally a CF/RF who was converted to 1st 'cause the Cubs had shipped its longtime
1B before the season to Beantown for whom within 2 years endured a nightmare of
his own!!!!!
The Bill Buckner of the Cubs, although Buckner also played there in Chicago.
Wrong. Durham came up as 1B with the Cardinals. He only shifted to the OF with the Cardinals because of Hernandez and when he was traded to the Cubs because Buckner was at 1st.
Why did Pods have 3 home games? Also that was not a walk to Garvey.
So excited that I can see Hardcastle and McCormick
The Cubs had ample chances to close out the series
But that's why they play the games as the saying goes.
It's really too bad the Padres won the pennant in 1984 and 1998. The Tigers and Yankees of those two years are arguably two of the greatest teams of all-time. 1985 or 1999 the Padres may be champs...
IMO, I think the '84 Padres were a rather pedestrian team. The 1998 squad was quite good, and had to beat two very tough NL teams to make the World Series, beating Randy Johnson twice in the Houston series, and followed that up with a six game series victory over Atlanta.
I do agree with your main point, however - the '84 Tigers and the '98 Yankees may be the two single most dominant wire-to-wire MLB champions in the last 40 years. Other than the Yankees falling behind 2-1 to Cleveland, neither team was seriously challenged.
Yep 1-8 world series doesn't say much for the padres.