The History of Transgenderism | Helen Joyce

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  • In this video, Helen Joyce breaks down the history of transgenderism.
    Helen Joyce was Britain Editor at The Economist, where she worked for over 15 years before she
    joined the gender-critical campaign group Sex Matters as a director. She is the author of Trans:
    When Ideology Meets Reality.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 169

  • @mohamedali2858
    @mohamedali2858 Місяць тому +149

    - A child cannot buy cigarettes until he is over 18 years old.
    He cannot get a tattoo until he is over 16 years old.
    He cannot drink alcohol until he is 21 years old.
    - He cannot enter nightclubs until he is over 18 years old.
    - He cannot open a bank account on his own until he is over 18 years old.
    - Only someone over 16 years old can drive a car.
    He cannot vote or play a political role unless he is 18 years old.
    But he can undergo a gender reassignment, take medications, and undergo surgery between life and death at the age of 12 years.🤪😆

    • @Microbex
      @Microbex Місяць тому +15

      It is insane to believe that a kid has the same reasoning as an adult.

    • @0Zolrender0
      @0Zolrender0 Місяць тому

      There is an agenda behind this from the Western Govts of the world. Pushed by the WEF etc.

    • @b1crusade384
      @b1crusade384 Місяць тому

      Your problem as it does not affect my group. So 😆.

    • @mrekin2146
      @mrekin2146 Місяць тому +3

      Are we living out a movie scene ?

    • @kikopasinecki5110
      @kikopasinecki5110 Місяць тому +8

      Idiocracy

  • @Lookup70
    @Lookup70 Місяць тому +29

    It’s soo good when someone like this wonderful lady can articulate perfectly what most of us feel about this ideological movement called transgenderism but can’t articulate! Bravo!

  • @tomcotter4299
    @tomcotter4299 Місяць тому +35

    Confusion is not a bug, it’s a feature. By keeping people confused, you make them vulnerable to influence.
    This is classic cult programming. Destabilize the target, break down their identity, then rebuild their identity as a member of the cult.

  • @j_sum1
    @j_sum1 Місяць тому +55

    What a brilliant succinct statement of the madness we are all supposed to follow.
    (Contrast that with the verbal fumbling that happens whenever an activist is asked to define a woman.}

    • @notme4921
      @notme4921 Місяць тому

      And if the can't define a woman why bother changing to one ,which brings us back to leftist agenda .

  • @niguel4438
    @niguel4438 Місяць тому +63

    Why doesn’t someone conduct and deep investigation into the adults who aren’t having transgender feelings but who promote it in vulnerable children. They are the serious issue here.

    • @Weshopwizard
      @Weshopwizard Місяць тому +1

      Munchausen by proxy moms.

    • @Medina-bk2fo
      @Medina-bk2fo Місяць тому

      Because those very ones are in the ruling class, the men with a tr@nsvestic f3tish. The recrutiment of children normalizes the f3tish, allows them to pass it off as what it's not; and makes their f3tish look "venerable."

    • @b1crusade384
      @b1crusade384 Місяць тому +1

      💰 🗣️ 🐂💩 🚶🏼‍♂️

    • @ix-Xafra
      @ix-Xafra Місяць тому +9

      I've met three very disturbed single-mothers in recent years who were proudly transitioning their sons.
      It's revenge against the fathers by proxy and it's encouraged!

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Місяць тому +1

      I've never seen a venerable child. I don't believe they exist.

  • @AnnaWalsh-qi2kj
    @AnnaWalsh-qi2kj Місяць тому +28

    Wonderful coherent woman. So reassuring to know people like her exist.

  • @paulinebell4873
    @paulinebell4873 Місяць тому +31

    its really easy to understand. cosmetic surgery clinics and the mental health industry are making a fortune from it

    • @scottshanahan3827
      @scottshanahan3827 Місяць тому +2

      But, why are people who gain nothing from this, i.e. activists, pushing it so hard? What is their motive?

    • @paulinebell4873
      @paulinebell4873 Місяць тому

      @@scottshanahan3827 FITH syndrome

    • @timoconnor7423
      @timoconnor7423 Місяць тому

      Stupidity​@@scottshanahan3827

  • @keithwilkins1437
    @keithwilkins1437 Місяць тому +17

    Years ago these people would keep quiet and not get militant and be tolerated with humour .Now they get up everyone"s nose and are completely ridiculous .

    • @Oysters176
      @Oysters176 Місяць тому +1

      Years ago, it was some girls teasing a guy to wear dresses. A guy letting a Tomboy be rough, as they understand and can be trusted enough to not report each-other for some rough and tumble as they understand eachother's status and character.

  • @raynarks
    @raynarks Місяць тому +45

    If there has always been trans people, how did they manage before people started wearing clothes?

    • @b1crusade384
      @b1crusade384 Місяць тому

      The 🐂💩 does not work if you ask questions. You suppose agree to everything without thinking and call anyone who does not agree to current talking point s as anti-XYZ.

    • @ghenulo
      @ghenulo Місяць тому

      That's transphobic!

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 26 днів тому

      Clothes have always existed in some form, even in societies where the only form of clothing is body jewelry (e.g., among certain Amazonian tribes, etc.).

  • @Charistoph
    @Charistoph Місяць тому +5

    If you are not allowed to question it, it is not science but dogma.

  • @JosephDredd31
    @JosephDredd31 Місяць тому +17

    It's all about the $ !!!!!. Pharmaceutical companies want your $. Plain and simple.

    • @lucakat9262
      @lucakat9262 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, I learned that the hard way. I was way worse on psychiatric drugs than I have ever been. But, they've 'normalized' it now that if you have any problem, just take a pill and our treatments.😮

  • @oscarjosefsson9300
    @oscarjosefsson9300 Місяць тому +5

    Good point what she said at the end there!
    Why would you have to modify your body if your body doesn't say anything about your "identity"?
    Doesn't make any sense.

  • @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
    @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Місяць тому +6

    Trans 30 years ago was one in 4000 mainly in males. Femininity in men and masculinity in women

  • @JohnGlen502
    @JohnGlen502 Місяць тому +18

    I'm amazed at how easily adults on the left go along with prevailing thought, so just think about kids on Social Media who are even more easily influenced. It shows something about human nature that it has gone this far with very few adults being skeptical enough to make sure kids are getting solid medical treatment. They're so afraid of being a bigot, being called a bigot they sat on their hands.

    • @Oysters176
      @Oysters176 Місяць тому

      I mean, it is hard to go against it. We live in pressuring environments, Even something as precious as love and relationships often happen because of the social pressure somebody else started, or astrology is another possibility.

  • @charlesbrown1365
    @charlesbrown1365 Місяць тому +16

    Comes from LGBT ideologists Foucault and Judith Butler .

  • @user-ks6ch9rw2d
    @user-ks6ch9rw2d Місяць тому +1

    I am not being funny here, it's a genuine compliment, I hope: John seems to me to be one of the best listeners I've come across in the UA-cam/Podcast world.

  • @francisxaviericaza1425
    @francisxaviericaza1425 Місяць тому +5

    She did not answer the question. "When did this begin?" What time, what period in time?

    • @tubes-lut
      @tubes-lut Місяць тому +1

      Pre history gods.
      All ancient religions had "trans" beings.

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 26 днів тому

      It’s called “clickbait”.

    • @m_d1905
      @m_d1905 24 дні тому

      Look up John Money. The Reimer twins.

    • @beatatz
      @beatatz 14 днів тому

      @@tubes-lut That's why they're 'ancient'. We discovered science, to replace belief.

  • @rbuddy4765
    @rbuddy4765 Місяць тому +3

    Rough approximation . Well said .

  • @gerrygjkworldwide
    @gerrygjkworldwide Місяць тому +5

    No confusion here. Gender is a function of grammar where nouns are either male or female - a la francaise! Simples.

    • @b1crusade384
      @b1crusade384 Місяць тому

      😆. What happened to you people in the cave? You guys came out of it weird.

  • @MajorityIsIrrelevant
    @MajorityIsIrrelevant Місяць тому +2

    18 years. Why does the government make the law that a child shouldn’t make an adult decision until they turn 18! Why? Is it because children must grow up and mature to make sensible decisions? Our children have to learn from their parents. Certainly adults. The law needs to protect the sane

  • @eprofessio
    @eprofessio Місяць тому +2

    Stimulus + Reward = Learned Behavior

  • @TruckerJacket
    @TruckerJacket Місяць тому

    Tough topic, interesting discussion

  • @catti_cazzaza
    @catti_cazzaza Місяць тому +6

    Is it only me that feels so much disgust+fear at the sight of them, and don't get it why this monstrosity is being promoted and celebrated worldwide???

    • @kindredtoast3439
      @kindredtoast3439 Місяць тому

      No. We evolved to feel off-put by anything in the uncanny valley. Maybe if you felt those things from seeing some completely normal-looking dude who just says the words "I'm trans," you'd be in the wrong... maybe. But you're definitely not a bigot for following your own genetic programming.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 22 дні тому +1

    That was really good.

  • @darbyheavey406
    @darbyheavey406 Місяць тому +9

    Jenner a 6-4 dudes puts on a playboy bunny costume…he’s lost his mind.

    • @carolynbrightfield8911
      @carolynbrightfield8911 Місяць тому +8

      And wins a woman's prize on a magazine cover after a year. Pity the poor woman who slogged out periods, cramps, pregnancies for 50 years.

    • @comealongcomealong4480
      @comealongcomealong4480 Місяць тому

      @@carolynbrightfield8911 You've reminded me that I was blocked for a time by a Canadian morning tv show hosted by Tracy Moore. Her guest in 2023 was 'Trans Woman' Jamie Pandit. (You can surely find 'her' online presence.) /I'd watched Tracy's segments for a few years, and saw her as a genuine champion of Women - of all the varieties we females are. Seated in Tracy's live studio audience were authentic women. Mothers, maybe some who had miscarried, or battled with IVF, Grandmothers, immigrant women - some whose hard work showed in their faces and bodies. /I wrote that the show had this audience clapping Jamie Pandit like 'performing seals'. Jamie - looking Hollywood to 'her' last eyelash - tearing up about the process of explaining his transexual identity to his conservative Indian parents. How hard that journey had been. To my eye, an immensely expensive amount of plastic surgery had created this vision before us. We were treated to lots of glossy images and fashion shoots from Jamie's UA-cam channel. So, a person who is monetising their trans identity as a career! /Tracy interviewed Jamie with great support and empathy. I was not insulting or abusive in what I wrote. But I WAS struck by the deep incongruity of an audience, with the lived experience, compelled to applaud an exceptionally attractive, Hollywood version of a woman. /I felt disappointed that noone from the show would have any communication with me. Just summarily blocked. It was kind of shocking at the time.

  • @ibear2554
    @ibear2554 Місяць тому

    Thank you.

  • @petermagee8352
    @petermagee8352 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent summary and articulation, Helen & John

  • @MarkusAxunIllianus
    @MarkusAxunIllianus Місяць тому +1

    Less a history and more a status quo of things. But I am here for it.

  • @kindredtoast3439
    @kindredtoast3439 Місяць тому +2

    That last little bit about how we're not supposed to understand it and we're supposed to just accept it sounds a lot like religion.

  • @hedge685
    @hedge685 Місяць тому +3

    Keep fighting the good fight you two...spread this as far as you can. Tides are going to turn if they haven't already. John, I've been an interested observer since first running across your videos. 👍

  • @malcolmhayward4431
    @malcolmhayward4431 Місяць тому +1

    The world is crazy to put a finer point on it

  • @snekmeseht
    @snekmeseht Місяць тому +2

    My bad. I thought this was a History of Trains. Can I have my sanity back please?

  • @zorkestar
    @zorkestar Місяць тому +1

    First it was steam trans, then diesel and finally electric trans. Bullet trans will be handled in another episode.

  • @ggavin9934
    @ggavin9934 Місяць тому

    Short version, they're in sayn. ( need to spell or utube cancels you)

  • @laurelbarlow5733
    @laurelbarlow5733 Місяць тому +2

    All people have masculine and feminine traits. Our true identity comes from God. We were created in God’s image.

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles Місяць тому +4

    There are a lot of worried "doctors" around the world right now I guess and rightly so.

  • @aii1173
    @aii1173 Місяць тому +1

    Magnus Hirshfield.
    Thats where it all starts.

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 26 днів тому

      Gender non-conforming persons were widespread in ancient times; try reading a biographical sketch of the Roman Emperor Egalabus sometime.

    • @aii1173
      @aii1173 25 днів тому +1

      @@MateDrinker33 I was clearly talking about the contemporary world.
      Not ancient Rome.

    • @MateDrinker33
      @MateDrinker33 22 дні тому

      @@aii1173 Thing is, I don't think Hirshfield was implicated in either Postmodernism, Critical Theory, or Wokeness (the main origin points of most bogus gender transition ideas in modern life). In this regard, John Money is a "better" candidate for this role.

  • @The-Ward
    @The-Ward Місяць тому +2

    My whole family took a tran across country and enjoyed all the different views... oh, wait, I mean train. Never mind.

  • @eduardopauletti6602
    @eduardopauletti6602 Місяць тому +4

    "We have to accept it"? What kind of answer is that? She answered nothing but complacency and I can't agree with that.

    • @NoOne-bp2jw
      @NoOne-bp2jw Місяць тому +5

      She is not complacent and does not recommend. She's simply pointing out that this is what the activists are saying. It's the activists that say it's all about their feelings and we are not to question their feelings and just go along, affirm their fantasy identity and keep quiet.

  • @darbyheavey406
    @darbyheavey406 Місяць тому +7

    Sounds like a gnostic belief…

    • @carolynbrightfield8911
      @carolynbrightfield8911 Місяць тому

      The new religion of the state along with the other one of whyte privetage. Unfortunately miss spellings are good now. If the state can get the populus to believe in those two things, then we will believe anything.

  • @paulwheeler6609
    @paulwheeler6609 Місяць тому +8

    That is the real issue - the fact that feminine and masculine traits exist in all people. Sexuality is a secondary issue depending on how far those feminine or masculine traits carry them. Tomboys and sissies were the terms back in the day. That said, you cannot hide from your biological gender. The argument is a spiritual one. The Indians refer to the "two-spirit" individual. In Zen, yin and yang. Honestly, the semantic debate is utterly ridiculous.

  • @merockunot
    @merockunot Місяць тому

    All brought to you by the small hat club member Magnus Hirschfield

  • @zeppo7238
    @zeppo7238 Місяць тому +1

    Remember Anderson old mate it was your LNP mates rooting in the "Prayer room" at Parliment House..

  • @nnonotnow
    @nnonotnow Місяць тому +2

    One of the great features of UA-cam is the ability to select Do not recommend channel. What have these people ever done to you?

  • @davidhynd4435
    @davidhynd4435 Місяць тому +9

    Our society is doomed.

  • @omnivore2220
    @omnivore2220 Місяць тому +3

    Oh, I thought you were going to take us back millennia in history, and not just skim over the very recent developments as you've done here. The fact is, we're dealing with a very ancient phenomenon. The character, Baphomet, for example, is typically depicted as androgynous, and the satan worshipers seem to love that sort of thing.
    No, you haven't even scratched the surface here, and my guess is that you very much don't want to.

  • @noweternity3101
    @noweternity3101 Місяць тому +14

    You can mock God’s design but God will not be mocked!
    His creation of male XY and female XX made in God’s image is Holy.

    • @ncrob391
      @ncrob391 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly! "For God is not a God of confusion but of peace". 1 Corinthians 14:33 The XX, XY model has served humanity for millenia throughout the entire world. Why is it an issue now all of a sudden in areas that are supposed to be the most advanced?

    • @noweternity3101
      @noweternity3101 Місяць тому +1

      @@ncrob391 Communist Takeover / WEF.
      Once Christian countries have turned away from God.

    • @johnnybertrand2039
      @johnnybertrand2039 Місяць тому

      i love that you think that tans is a cult when you start preaching from the bible, which is also a cult

    • @ncrob391
      @ncrob391 Місяць тому

      @@johnnybertrand2039 When did I say trans is a cult?

    • @noweternity3101
      @noweternity3101 Місяць тому +1

      @@johnnybertrand2039 As clear as the nose is on your face, after your death you will kneel before God, Jesus Christ and give an account to Him of your every word and deed - He is your Judge - Jesus Christ will decide your eternity.

  • @jameswalker7138
    @jameswalker7138 Місяць тому +3

    Baphomet

  • @azzir325
    @azzir325 Місяць тому +1

    And almost in totality, the whole kerfuffle is RUBBISH.

  • @melvinhunt6976
    @melvinhunt6976 Місяць тому +1

    Sin is SIN !

  • @johanswede8200
    @johanswede8200 Місяць тому +4

    This is just a fad...Complete nonsense never stick...

  • @pops1507
    @pops1507 Місяць тому +1

    Don't forget Marx and Soros.

  • @johnbrown4568
    @johnbrown4568 Місяць тому +1

    Research neo-Gnosticism.

  • @robertmccabe8632
    @robertmccabe8632 Місяць тому +19

    Trans means whatever satan wants it to mean, so long as it is against Yeshua.

  • @patrickhall3878
    @patrickhall3878 Місяць тому

    No one cares.. but they have to tell everyone that they’re special..

  • @fixedG
    @fixedG Місяць тому

    It's an incoherent social mania.

  • @JohanThiart
    @JohanThiart Місяць тому +2

    Cosmetic surgery.😢

  • @janedoe6845
    @janedoe6845 Місяць тому

    don't feed the demon and move on, simple as that😶

  • @JESUSWONTHEWAR
    @JESUSWONTHEWAR Місяць тому

    'History of Cross Dressers' is more accurate title

  • @user-ul6dc4qc4j
    @user-ul6dc4qc4j 27 днів тому +1

    Transvestite

  • @patbowlby2497
    @patbowlby2497 25 днів тому

    It's weird to me. You don't put multi million dollar bandaids on cancer do you? Don't you want to cure the cancer and make the patient well?

  • @eugenesteenhuisen4065
    @eugenesteenhuisen4065 Місяць тому

    Overthinking

  • @Rosiedelaroux
    @Rosiedelaroux 21 день тому

    It a disgrace

  • @TransSisterRadio1488
    @TransSisterRadio1488 Місяць тому +1

    i can tell you about all this, both as a trans person and a scholar. first all, i doubt any of you know anything about the civil war!. second, "the west" is a completely new development compared to the rest of the world, which the WHOLE world has always had transgender people, since pre-civilizations. trans people were part of shaping civilization itself. the thing about the "west", is that its attempts to nationalize race, "gender", and everything is based on archtyple constructive powers of classifying the objective natural world. that's what english is, a language of classifying the natural world. but the "west" and king james english is focused on male virility and contempt for "feminine" powers. the northern west, germanics, russians, their history is the ONLY people who don't have a transgender social history, in the entire world. that is due to 1. harsh environments that are difficult to "cultivate" 2. the relatively small and isolated environment as compared to the rest of the civilized world. 3. the psychology of "caves" and insurmountable mountains 4. the need to utterly destroy the natural world.
    it all comes down to "scarcity". but here we are, in the most developed and advanced, and RICH country in the world, and its still a young "national" development, with all that convenience, access, wealth, comes the feeling of "scarcity". our population is reverting or regressing to older ways. people behave like toddlers. WE use to "cultivate" this country.
    in the end, you are you, and trans people are trans people. the sexes are real. so is gender. you can spin it however you want. doesn't change nature though.
    im not gettting into my college access of trans studies around the world. there were heaps of them. "MOUNDS", but it included the chinese.
    Ergi (noun) and argr (adjective) are two Old Norse terms of insult, denoting effeminacy or other unmanly behaviour. Argr (also ragr) is "unmanly" and ergi is "unmanliness"; the terms have cognates in other Germanic languages such as earh, earg, arag, or arug, among others

  • @philipcollins218
    @philipcollins218 Місяць тому

    It’s a disgrace

  • @Rubyduby1
    @Rubyduby1 28 днів тому

    Reported

  • @angelainamarie9656
    @angelainamarie9656 Місяць тому

    I wish you weirdos would just stop stalking us and go live your own obviously fabulous lives.

  • @amraceway
    @amraceway Місяць тому +1

    Golly does she distort the argument, or what?

  • @Dayserking
    @Dayserking Місяць тому

    Imagine getting so worked up over someone else’s personal decisions about themselves 😂😂

    • @beatatz
      @beatatz 14 днів тому

      If they didn't try to impose them on everyone else, it wouldn't matter, but they do, so it does, especially for women and children whose delusion is being 'affirmed' through drugs and surgery. Wake up!

  • @fredrodriguez8372
    @fredrodriguez8372 Місяць тому

    It all started in a sanatorium, obviously.

  • @richardbaker112
    @richardbaker112 Місяць тому +1

    Just like religion and politics. Don’t ask questions just accept it.🫤

  • @Rubyduby1
    @Rubyduby1 28 днів тому

    Reported