Black Fashion Models | Three Generations Discuss Diversity

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  • Robin Givhan in conversation with fashion models Bethann Hardison, Riley Montana, and Veronica Webb in conjunction with The Museum at FIT's exhibition "Black Fashion Designers" on view Dec 6, 2016 to May 16, 2017. Video by Noir Tribe Media.
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  • @AngelaCelesteMay
    @AngelaCelesteMay 5 років тому +12

    I appreciate this conversation. I want to add that while I respect each of their points of view, I have to say that it can be enormously frustrating to NEVER see or hear from someone like myself who was born and raised in Detroit, not the suburbs, is Black and did NOT grow up poor. Many of us grew up in well off and yes wealthy neighborhoods with Black doctors, judges, etc. who love and give back to our community, travel the world, were blessed to have received an excellent education, yet still choose to remain in our beloved city building our lives and careers, and contributing to the ongoing growth of the D.

  • @wvanderwahl
    @wvanderwahl 7 років тому +11

    Saw the Black Fashion Designers exhibit @FIT - it was amazing. So much talent, so many icons , so many important people, not just designers, but, also models that have made major contributions to the fashion industry. Bethann is a legend.

  • @ronnieRb
    @ronnieRb 7 років тому +7

    Robin Givhan and Bethann Hardison can talk endlessly about race and modeling in the 70's and 80's... brilliant insights

  • @Lawrence_619
    @Lawrence_619 Рік тому +4

    I started observing and taking a liking to, the models that came thru Veronica's era (Naomi, Tyra, Linda E, Kristy T, Claudia, etc)..and that era was not just an era of supermodels, but it was STILL considered, very much a golden era of high fashion..especially in Europe. But if you wanna talk about fashion TO THE EXTREME...you have to know the era that Bethann came out of of. That era was not just serious fashio..it was HAUTE COUTURE, in spades. And if there was any better example of how the excellence that black models like Bethann and Pat Cleveland and Naomi Sims, made the entire fashion industry step up its game..it was revealed in how downright obsessive men like Halston and Karl Lagerfeld and Yves Saint Laurent, were about handpicking black models to show their clothes.
    They were dead serious about handpicking the very best models to show those clothes..and they didnt have a problem with how light or dark those black models were. Fashion was, literally, art to them. And if your work is art, then you'll promote your art, with the best models. But they were on their own planet, also. And when those same men, became more "corporate" in the name of making even more money for themselves, then black models were not that important. And therein lies, the problem with the fashion industry, regarding racism.
    The bottom line is money...and if you are a fashion designer who wants to make clothes to make a LOT of money, you wont be marketing and advertising much at all, in black markets, be it print or otherwise. What you'll do is, take your clothes to bigger markets that advertise and market a LOT more in places where white folk with a ton of money, will see your clothes and buy them. Money aint black or white...but the way to make a lot of it, for those who look past black models, is to market your clothes to those who have more money. And in the fashion industry, those people are white, in large part. Lets just be real.

  • @kgmaj
    @kgmaj 6 років тому +9

    I'm with Bethann. Bring the real models back!!!!!

    • @kgmaj
      @kgmaj 6 років тому +1

      And anyone is doing it. Everyone is a model! It's embarrassing. I look at fashion as art. When you go to a sporting event you don't want to see just anyone on those courts or arenas. You want to see gods! I have a weight problem. I don't want to see people like me on the runway. I can still dress up and look good and attract people. Doesn't mean I belong in a magazine.

  • @RileyJade99
    @RileyJade99 5 років тому +5

    This is wonderful. Veronica kind of reminds me of Sandra Bullock.

  • @TheDeal007
    @TheDeal007 7 років тому +9

    This was a really insightful discussion. Thank you!

  • @aliciamack9323
    @aliciamack9323 4 роки тому +2

    Yes ❤❤❤👍love it all shades of color dark brown lite skin

  • @ortem000
    @ortem000 7 років тому +6

    Very interesting conversation and input. Thank you all for sharing. As a side note, perhaps the opening music is a too bit dark and ominous?

  • @STYLWALKER1
    @STYLWALKER1 4 роки тому +2

    DETROIT IN THE BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @johnstewart6049
    @johnstewart6049 2 роки тому +1

    W😲w
    👁️never saw this
    Excellent conversation ‼️🤎

  • @reginaldfrazier9006
    @reginaldfrazier9006 6 років тому +1

    My mom was the first SUPER PIN UP :: From NYC say hello she over 90 SO YOU K now the she knows ..... REAL TALK
    ( ,levonia Frazier .. Facebook } keep it real . she can tell you the real deal .. the best ..

  • @terrencejohnson5496
    @terrencejohnson5496 6 років тому

    At 5:50 who is the model that always opened the YSL shows?

  • @giovannaiamele8782
    @giovannaiamele8782 2 роки тому

    The older woman is very intelligent the 4th one who talks a lot is of i definite race!

  • @aminahshabazz2668
    @aminahshabazz2668 6 років тому +1

    Who is Riley Montana? 😒

    • @carolcrowley6676
      @carolcrowley6676 6 років тому

      They seem very close.

    • @oekmama
      @oekmama 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/W5oMl_9kXDg/v-deo.html

  • @axelmaass3341
    @axelmaass3341 4 роки тому

    When I watch u girls,I miss OMAR.HE WOULD TELL YOU ALL"what's up"

  • @Reinecouturia
    @Reinecouturia 6 років тому +9

    She learns and she interrupts....

    • @CuirPhotodotNet
      @CuirPhotodotNet 3 роки тому

      yes she does...nothing against her however she has had moments where her mouth has almost gotten her into serious trouble she became a writer for VIBE magazine and she said the wrong thing to MARY J.BLIGE while interviewing her and MARY...threatened to seriously hurt her...